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    No matter which person, group, or organization you blame for Charlie Kirk's murder, the true culprit is not who but what, and the answer is without any doubt whatsoever, evil. Especially when you consider evil in the form of demonic influence, it can affect individuals, places, or objects, but it does not have the ultimate power to take over a person or group unless they allow themselves to be spiritually compromised. Evil touches both our human and spiritual realities, and its ultimate purpose is to separate us from the divine. This is done by wreaking so much havoc and chaos in our human world that we feel that it is meaningless to start or continue the search for the divine truth.

    When we begin to excessively dwell, discuss, and focus on evil, we risk losing sight of hope, goodness, and our moral strength. The goal is to make us feel overwhelmed and hopeless. If evil can coax us into that vulnerable position, then we are morally compromised. If you want to understand how many people have been put into this extremely compromised state, all you need to do is look at the people celebrating the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, or rejoicing in the assassinationation of Charlie Kirk. Evil is clever, it will put people in a very obvious malevolent and repugnant state, and at the same time provide them cover by infecting their minds with complete denial of any wrongdoing whatsoever.

    It does not really matter which human or group assassinated Charlie Kirk, evil needs to be very squarely blamed, and we must not let evil succeed in consuming our thoughts and our lives because that separation from God ensures the destruction of humanity. What makes Charlie Kirk's senseless murder so difficult for those who followed him is that they knew he had reached an understanding of and with the divine. Evil could not allow him to fortify the hearts and minds of millions more.

    Pointing fingers at human perpetrators in an attempt to understand earthly systemic corruption is not only a distraction, but it is also a false flag. It is an illusion designed to allow evil to walk free and continue unlimited moral decay and human destruction. We must begin to understand that this is a spiritual war, and victory cannot be achieved until we recognize the real enemy behind the chaos. We are in the midst of eternal life, and we must recognize that the spiritual component far outweighs the human dimension. Charlie Kirk died on the battlefield between good and evil.

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    The FBI (and whoever else is involved with the CK shooting) certainly went to great lengths to add a lot of confusing, muddying and misleading information, but didn't take care to consider the amount of personal phones in the audience. Possibly it is just something that they couldn't control at this time. I am sure that they will find a way in the near future - and perhaps this "gun phone" will be the catalyst that may lead to the banning of phones at controlled future events.

    Also, the arrogance of these organizations knowing that they can control the narrative regardless of what is brought forward is on display.

    Look at the history of events where they say what they want to say and it is written into official narratives.

    The big picture is disturbing.

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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    No matter which person, group, or organization you blame for Charlie Kirk's murder, the true culprit is not who but what, and the answer is without any doubt whatsoever, evil. Especially when you consider evil in the form of demonic influence, it can affect individuals, places, or objects, but it does not have the ultimate power to take over a person or group unless they allow themselves to be spiritually compromised. Evil touches both our human and spiritual realities, and its ultimate purpose is to separate us from the divine. This is done by wreaking so much havoc and chaos in our human world that we feel that it is meaningless to start or continue the search for the divine truth.

    When we begin to excessively dwell, discuss, and focus on evil, we risk losing sight of hope, goodness, and our moral strength. The goal is to make us feel overwhelmed and hopeless. If evil can coax us into that vulnerable position, then we are morally compromised. If you want to understand how many people have been put into this extremely compromised state, all you need to do is look at the people celebrating the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, or rejoicing in the assassinationation of Charlie Kirk. Evil is clever, it will put people in a very obvious malevolent and repugnant state, and at the same time provide them cover by infecting their minds with complete denial of any wrongdoing whatsoever.

    It does not really matter which human or group assassinated Charlie Kirk, evil needs to be very squarely blamed, and we must not let evil succeed in consuming our thoughts and our lives because that separation from God ensures the destruction of humanity. What makes Charlie Kirk's senseless murder so difficult for those who followed him is that they knew he had reached an understanding of and with the divine. Evil could not allow him to fortify the hearts and minds of millions more.

    Pointing fingers at human perpetrators in an attempt to understand earthly systemic corruption is not only a distraction, but it is also a false flag. It is an illusion designed to allow evil to walk free and continue unlimited moral decay and human destruction. We must begin to understand that this is a spiritual war, and victory cannot be achieved until we recognize the real enemy behind the chaos. We are in the midst of eternal life, and we must recognize that the spiritual component far outweighs the human dimension. Charlie Kirk died on the battlefield between good and evil.
    What a great post rgray! I had to reply to it in order for it to "thanked" again!!

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    the true culprit is not who but what, and the answer is without any doubt whatsoever, evil.

    Thanks for your post, rgray, but perhaps I am misunderstanding your words.
    I don't see Evil as a force outside ourselves. This diminishes human responsibility and accountability for our thoughts/actions.
    Evil is a force, but we also carry this potential inside ourselves, like Goodness.

    We have a choice.

    I agree with you that this is a spiritual war.
    Hence the age old cliche that we are spiritual beings having a human experience.
    Human minds and human bodies engineered this assassination. Made it happen

    Forces of light and dark define this dimension: themes of books, scriptures, religions, movies, and we see it playing out upon this world stage. Charlie Kirk appeared to be walking his talk; his faith, and educating others to make choices that serve humanity. It is so hard to make sense of, but goodness/god seems a stronger force...ultimately.

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
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    Again, I know. C'mon man

    This video shows the person I'm talking about, who is young and isn't wearing a hat, and who Rizotto refers to as WSG.
    Aha - now I see it.

    You're right. That guy is not looking at Charlie when the shot fires.

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    Quote Posted by lunaflare (here)
    the true culprit is not who but what, and the answer is without any doubt whatsoever, evil.

    Thanks for your post, rgray, but perhaps I am misunderstanding your words.
    I don't see Evil as a force outside ourselves. This diminishes human responsibility and accountability for our thoughts/actions.
    Evil is a force, but we also carry this potential inside ourselves, like Goodness.

    We have a choice.

    I agree with you that this is a spiritual war.
    Hence the age old cliche that we are spiritual beings having a human experience.
    Human minds and human bodies engineered this assassination. Made it happen

    Forces of light and dark define this dimension: themes of books, scriptures, religions, movies, and we see it playing out upon this world stage. Charlie Kirk appeared to be walking his talk; his faith, and educating others to make choices that serve humanity. It is so hard to make sense of, but goodness/god seems a stronger force...ultimately.
    Concur. I was initially going to add something to rgray's post, but there is really nothing to add. Very well said rgray.

    One thing to consider as we contemplate this spiritual war we are in: what is good? and what is evil? I hear the word "evil" a lot when commentators articulate the spiritual war we're in. What is evil? And why do some choose to pick up arms and fight for and embrace evil? If they are victims, have been compromised, cajoled, possessed, or manipulated, and/or essentially know not what they do, who has commandeered their souls and minds, and why and to what end?

    The polarity of this world we live in really is an enigma to me. I'm not sure I fully grasp the why of it all....

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    Well, here I’m sharing something a friend sent me. I don’t think it’s at all a coincidence that the place where Charlie Kirk was giving his talk, when seen from above, has the geometric shape of a menorah. And specifically the location where he was killed is the one that, in the following image, is linked to the Second Coming of Jesus. So obviously there’s something— as always—dark behind all of this. I’m not saying they killed a clone, or that it was some kind of simulation, but well, there’s clearly something strange going on here. Well, we already know what Zionism is and everything related to it. So anyway, I’m sharing this because it seems to me extremely striking. From what I can see, what comes after this is the Battle of Armageddon



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    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    What is evil?....
    Quote Posted by lunaflare (here)
    Evil is a force,
    Professing my opinion only, from my own reflections, introspections, and various metaphysical adventures.

    Evil isn't a force, as in a kinetic force of nature or being. It's an absence of one: in this case of spirit, of God, of love. It's the same for cold, also not a force, but an absence of one: thermal energy. As darkness is the absence of light, and ignorance the absence of knowledge, what we call evil, or negativity, is the absence of God. Remove God from the equation and you achieve oblivion. The evil in this world is the sum result of this oblivion, being a disconnection from, or rejection of, God, to a lesser or greater degree. Good/evil is therefore not strictly a spectrum, as that implies a polarity of two opposing forces. Evil is not one. There is simply God and not-God, love, and not-love.

    Perhaps this belongs in another thread. Sorry for the interjection!

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Charlie Kirk's widow Erika speaks at his funeral







    Vice President J.D. Vance speaks at Charlie Kirk's memorial






    Trump's remarks at Charlie Kirk's funeral






    Donald Trump Jr. speaks at Charlie Kirk's memorial service






    Tucker Carlson speaks at Charlie Kirk Memorial






    Tulsi Gabbard speaks at Charlie Kirk Memorial






    ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.'S emotional tribute to CHARLIE KIRK at CHARLIE KIRK MEMORIAL






    Sen. Marco Rubio speaks at Charlie Kirk Memorial






    Donald Trump and Elon Musk reunite at Charlie Kirk memorial







    Elon Musk’s ‘profound and beautiful’ words about Charlie Kirk





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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    What is evil?....
    Quote Posted by lunaflare (here)
    Evil is a force,
    Professing my opinion only, from my own reflections, introspections, and various metaphysical adventures.

    Evil isn't a force, as in a kinetic force of nature or being. It's an absence of one: in this case of spirit, of God, of love. It's the same for cold, also not a force, but an absence of one: thermal energy. As darkness is the absence of light, and ignorance the absence of knowledge, what we call evil, or negativity, is the absence of God. Remove God from the equation and you achieve oblivion. The evil in this world is the sum result of this oblivion, being a disconnection from, or rejection of, God, to a lesser or greater degree. Good/evil is therefore not strictly a spectrum, as that implies a polarity of two opposing forces. Evil is not one. There is simply God and not-God, love, and not-love.

    Perhaps this belongs in another thread. Sorry for the interjection!

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    Kill mechanism speculation: modified Air-Squib, perhaps?: this is a special effects/FX application used to simulate bullet hits for use primarily in movies although it is also used in training scenarios for military purposes. I'd imagine this wouldn't be too difficult to perhaps modify: it is activated remotely, in most instances. I'm not for one moment considering that Charlie's death was a staged-event or at all faked, it was all too very real, but there has to be every possibility that a modified squib could have been used for the actual kill. It would be quiet and positioned somewhere surreptitious (camera behind Charlie?) and operated remotely.

    Check in at around the 4 minute mark for the inventor Olov Nylander's background and overview, and at 4:42 for a look at the device, in situ. It wouldn't have been too difficult for those with the skills of a Jonna Mendez and/or military ops to disguise a weapon this way, maybe:
    Description: The Air Squib, is a pneumatic squib or air powered simulated bullet hit blood effect, that is mainly used for film, television or theatre productions to create the illusion of a performer being hit by a bullet. An off-screen technician sets off the effect with a remote.


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    https://rumble.com/v6z7msk-charlie-k...2Csrc_v1_upp_a

    Kerry Cassidy on Rumble about Charlie Kirk

    It was posted a little over two days ago.

    She thinks the assassination was faked by whitehat/Trumps/Q-types.
    I ignored this for a couple days and well...now we are here.

    Since my first ignoring I've learned that there were multiple folks seemingly involved and or accomplices that were on the scene.
    The magic bullet scenario. A 30-06 that not only didn't penetrate Charlie's neck but got lodged just under the skin.
    The probable use of a squib mentioned by others more recently but mentioned by Kerry first in my viewings.
    The seeming involvement of the FBI...
    I know this all seems crazy like Ben Fullford but sometimes this is where the data leads.
    I'm listening just because believe it or not she is making more sense than just about everyone else here.

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    • Internet erupts after Donald Trump and Elon Musk reunite at Charlie Kirk memorial:

    US President Donald Trump and Tesla CEO Elon Musk have reunited at Charlie Kirk’s memorial following a months-long feud between the two. On Sunday, the former friends were seen sitting together and shaking hands during Kirk’s funeral service in Glendale, Arizona. Musk and Trump’s Sunday catch-up was the first time the two had a public interaction together since their fallout earlier this year. The Tesla CEO was first seen sitting alone at Kirk’s memorial service in the State Farm Stadium as roughly 78,000 mourners entered. In a video posted to social media, Musk approached Trump before the president extended his arm, and the two men shook hands.

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    I just saw this. It seems credible.

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    A more critical view of this very US-American 'memorial' celebration by David Icke's son. Not everyone will like this as it spoils the supposed solemnity of it all. But I think he makes some valid points. It's not about Kirk or the terrible event and aftermath. It's just about this memorial 'show'. Maybe seen through non-US eyes it seems strange and it is a very American thing. I agree that it looks a bit more like a Super Bowl than a memorial.
    But Ok, it's America and maybe that is normal over there. I'm European and it would be different here. More solemn, not so much party-like with fireworks and a president dancing.



    Or anyone else here feeling this way? Isn't it a bit too much?
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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Evil isn't a force, as in a kinetic force of nature or being. It's an absence of one: in this case of spirit, of God, of love.
    Yup ... well said.

    Being is ordered, many layers of order, from the formation of protons and electrons from the aether, to the formation and eternal dance of atoms, matter and plasma, to the life cycles of living plants and animals, to the emotions and shared feelings and awareness of families and communities, fields and forests, lakes and rivers, to the technology science, organization, shared knowledge, industry and economics of civilizations, to a higher awareness of and connection with, as Mark phrases it, the spirit of God, of love.

    Evil over emphasizes order at some lower levels, perhaps by some measure of personal or family power or wealth, while having lost connection with higher levels.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    What is evil?....
    Quote Posted by lunaflare (here)
    Evil is a force,
    Professing my opinion only, from my own reflections, introspections, and various metaphysical adventures.

    Evil isn't a force, as in a kinetic force of nature or being. It's an absence of one: in this case of spirit, of God, of love. It's the same for cold, also not a force, but an absence of one: thermal energy. As darkness is the absence of light, and ignorance the absence of knowledge, what we call evil, or negativity, is the absence of God. Remove God from the equation and you achieve oblivion. The evil in this world is the sum result of this oblivion, being a disconnection from, or rejection of, God, to a lesser or greater degree. Good/evil is therefore not strictly a spectrum, as that implies a polarity of two opposing forces. Evil is not one. There is simply God and not-God, love, and not-love.

    Perhaps this belongs in another thread. Sorry for the interjection!

    But do you understand that it has it's own worshiping/energy force amplifier faction with it's own intelligent organisation ?
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    That memorial for Charlie was a lot of things, some honest and very heartfelt, while others were a continuation of those things he was fighting against as he followed the natural progression of his spiritual growth. Yet, predictably so, not one word was spoken of the very recent, heavy threats against him by the billionaire donor cutouts and their cohorts. How much work has it been and is it going take, to prop up the false narrative of a paper cutout being the killer, for those left in his personal and professional orbit?

    I do appreciate Tucker Carlson's direct comparison of Charlie's death to his simplified parable about the time when
    '2,000 years ago' Jesus starts talking about hypocrisy and the killers in JeruSALEM, "sitting in a lamp lit room, eating hummus, were saying, 'We've got to stop this guy from talkin'. We've got to kill him.'"
    T.C.. It's the same group, and like rgray so directly put it, the evil is from the same source. I have never seen it as anything different, at times not even worth the effort to point out the distinctions from one killing to another, one genocide to another, and most assuredly one theft, one grift to another.

    Contract killers are multi-national and share no explicit restrictions on who pays them. Many in the public would expect assassins from countries at war with each other, on whatever battlefield, not to be on the same team. They ARE the same team. It is most likely that crews are from the same country, but that is not a rule that the honorless follow.

    Because Tucker was, with Charlie's good friend Candace Owens, recently talking about the "un-American" and "just wrong" heavy pressure put on Charlie to merely stop his criticism of the donors demanding his silence, while not publicly even mentioning the donors current killing of 2-300,000 civilian, non combatants.....the comparison was obvious. He did end his tribute to his friend's overt and sincere humanity and kindness, his caring and his ability to forgive, which was also a reflection of his faith.

    Though they were very different, I'm naturally drawn to remember well the change of Malcolm X, from racial separatist to a man building bridges, with what turns out to be the cost of his life.... for telling the truth about the power of unity amongst all people on earth, and the double-life of his mentor. Like Malcolm, Charlie could not be Epsteined, due to his devotion to his wife, his children and the cause of opening up a generation to dialogue with the power of questioning how they have been so darkly diverted by the very same evil that commits genocides worldwide.

    Charlie's grieving wife forgiving "that young man" for murdering her husband, though that "young man" could not have committed that soulless crime, is a very christian thing to do. Can't blame her for being that strong and real to her faith. Yet...will she forgive those who ordered the murder, or those who are providing cover for the real killers if she ever faces the obvious and documented video evidence?

    The donors sunk a lot of cash into the investment called 'turning point'. Who thinks they would let that influence go without deeply influencing the remaining personnel they have already spent money on there?
    The recent apparent takeover of tiktok's american affiliate by that same cabal, with it's Judaen outpost, is soley for the purpose of removing the massive number of videos showing the war crimes in Gaza. Silencing Charlie would more accurately be listed as one of their pre-crime, action investments.

    There will be those who want to go after the same worldwide funding apparatus that inserted the insanity of pharma's highly profitable, gender denial corporations, merely as another diversion from the simplicity of killing one man with a voice, but that too is not honest.


    There was so much good about what Charlie gave people, at some point the truths he was sharing in the months before he was murdered, as the result of his conscience alone, have to be faced and seen for what they were and, he would note, still are. He was murdered for standing up against the evil that demanded he remove his heart, his eyes, his ears and his mind from ever sharing what he knew of the genocide committed by those bankers' own hands, with massive material and political cover provided by his own country. His own country ostensibly paying for the team of assassins who took him out.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Hym (here)

    That memorial for Charlie was a lot things, some honest and very heartfelt, while others were a continuation of those things he was fighting against
    I agree.

    Jack Posobiec was seriously scary and came across like a planted agitator. (perhaps he is?)

    Many had a foot in two opposing camps.

    The big surprise for me was Tucker Carlson. His short and sweet speech was amazing and really the only one that seemed to get what Erika Kirk was all about.

    Really, the rest of them were a bunch of shaken-up hangers on, some more politically sophisticated and articulate than others.

    Musk had an interesting presence and made such a wide open comment that will last a long time whoever eventually turns out to be snakes in the grass.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    A more critical view of this very US-American 'memorial' celebration by David Icke's son. Not everyone will like this as it spoils the supposed solemnity of it all. But I think he makes some valid points. It's not about Kirk or the terrible event and aftermath. It's just about this memorial 'show'. Maybe seen through non-US eyes it seems strange and it is a very American thing. I agree that it looks a bit more like a Super Bowl than a memorial.
    But Ok, it's America and maybe that is normal over there. I'm European and it would be different here. More solemn, not so much party-like with fireworks and a president dancing.

    Or anyone else here feeling this way? Isn't it a bit too much?
    I concur with what Hym and Norman said directly above. In reply, Open Minded Dude, to your direct questions, yes, overall the memorial event was off mark in terms of my expectations. Specifically, the pyrotechnics and the deep-voiced announcements of the next speaker conveyed entertainment, unsuitable for a memorial. It seemed more like a premature tribute. As Hym said, it served a lot of purposes. Maybe in a way, given its conveyance of a political rally, it gave Erika Kirk a sense of what would likely have been--a political rally of her husband as a presidential candidate.

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