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    Hi Russian Bear. Please say more about Baghem Grove. My search netted noting.

    Your awareness of those Sept event seems adequate. I’m interested in your take on details of the happening, mostly the kinetic aspects but also anything else.

    My theory abt why Putin hasn’t blown the whistle, is the possible counter-blackmail re: the apartment bombings that got him prominence for actions against Chechnya. Apologies if you have posted on that previously, I tend to not read your wall-of-text posts.

    Cheers from Alberta.
    Comrade Johnnycomelately , I didn't see your message! Understand, I'll start working on this and prepare an article about it, but it will take some time. I still don't see when people message me. If I don't respond for a long time, you should send me a private message, because I always reply to comments.
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    I thought the topic was closed; many people know why the globalists, through the CIA, blew up the buildings.

    1) They needed a pretext to invade Iraq and seize the oil.
    2) This served as the trigger for the US military intervention in Afghanistan, supposedly to punish terrorists. In reality, this action pursued far-reaching US geopolitical goals: to gain a foothold in the oil-rich region of the Middle East, to seize advantageous strategic positions from which Washington could extend its influence to Central Asia and the Caucasus and threaten the interests of Russia, China, and India.
    3) To gain public support for the militarization of the United States.
    4) The events of September 11, 2001, in the United States became the precondition for the introduction of biometric documents. After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, biometric passports began to appear in an increasing number of countries.

    5) Larry Silverstein is an entrepreneur who insured the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings for $3.6 billion in 2001, with a separate clause for a terrorist attack.

    After the events of September 11, 2001, Silverstein tried to recover $7.2 billion from the insurance company, arguing that the incident was a double terrorist attack. However, he ultimately received compensation of $4.6 billion.

    In total, insurance payments following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks amounted to $40 billion, including payments for life, health, property, transportation, liability, and aviation liability.

    5) September 11, 2001, was a sacrifice, although it has no scientific basis. But we know what's happening in the world and remember Baghem Grove well.

    6) As a result of the fire and collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on September 11, 2001, some important documents and other objects burned or turned to dust and debris. One of the buildings damaged in the attacks housed a CIA office with a repository of important files. It was advantageous for the globalists to destroy these documents so that no one would know about their machinations and dark deeds.

    In general, many other facts beneficial to the globalists can be found. But I have provided a few.

    They did exactly the same trick with the Titanic, and you thought that ship sank by a fatal accident?
    Hi Russian Bear. Please say more about Baghem Grove. My search netted noting.

    Your awareness of those Sept event seems adequate. I’m interested in your take on details of the happening, mostly the kinetic aspects but also anything else.

    My theory abt why Putin hasn’t blown the whistle, is the possible counter-blackmail re: the apartment bombings that got him prominence for actions against Chechnya. Apologies if you have posted on that previously, I tend to not read your wall-of-text posts.

    Cheers from Alberta.
    Comrade, the information I published is rather sparse. So far I've found this. Maybe I'll continue searching and add some new material: satanists in Power: The Bohemian Grove and Its Secrets – All About the World Government's "Vacation" https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1686944
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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Over 20 Years Later

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    copying here (have not watched yet)

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    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970458136327729382




    Tucker Carlson

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    The first of our five-part series on 9/11. Enjoy.


    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970269378190118920


    update - I just watched, and the case for CIA/Saudi involvement in 'trying to get a source within Al Queda' and not notifying the FBI was well documented, with Brennan's substantial involvement, but nothing so far to indicate Tucker suspects they were really just establishing these 'hijackers' as a 'patsy' for what Cheney and Mossad and others really had planned.

    So far the mechanics of CIA fingerprints on the OP and later Bush admin coverups for the commission are being documented, but this does not appear to be going to go nearly as deep as it needs to.


    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Here is part 2



    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1972994844088799342



    Tucker Carlson


    The 9/11 Files: The Cover-up Commission | Ep 2
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    Comment: Possibly the most truthful account of 9/11 ever written...by the one person most qualified to report.

    Kurt Sonnenfeld's statement at the presentation of his book El Perseguido (Persecuted) on May 8, 2009, at the 35th Annual Buenos Aires Book Fair in Argentina, where he lives in exile since 2003. Therein, Sonnenfeld tells the history of his persecution at the hands of U.S. authorities over the course of more than seven years after his official mission to Ground Zero as FEMA's videographer ... an experience that turned him into an inconvenient witness.

    Buenos Aires - May 8, 2009 - Statement by Kurt Sonnenfeld:

    There has never been an independent commission officially assigned to investigate the horrible events that occurred on September 11, 2001, although independent commissions for tragedies of this magnitude are customary. From the beginning, the investigation into the attacks on the World Trade Center has been tightly controlled directly from the White House. And now almost all of the evidence has been destroyed.

    Does anyone believe the official version offered as to what happened on September 11, 2001? There are many who say that the wildest conspiracy theory of all is the theory offered by the United States Government. Do you know that on the weekend prior to the attacks on the WTC, all electricity was cut off for approximately 36 hours, including the security cameras and control systems in a highly irregular "maintenance operation"? Do you know that in the weeks leading up to the attacks there were several unusual evacuations of both towers? Do you know that the company in charge of security at the World Trade Center was directed by Marvin Bush, George Bush's younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush's cousin? Do you know that the same security company also lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," and provides security for classified and high-risk government sites? Do you know that hundreds of government personnel were pre-positioned in New York City on September 10, preparing to do a large scale simulation of a terrorist attack to be carried out on September 12? FEMA officials had already set up their command post at Pier 92 near the World Trade Center one day before the attacks.

    Do you know that the 47-story Salomon Smith Barney Building, officially known as Seven World Trade Center, imploded at 5:20 in the afternoon of September 11, 2001, some nine hours after American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower? It took only about 6.5 seconds for the entire structure to fall straight down into itself, a half second more than the amount of time it would have taken a stone to hit the ground if you had dropped it from the roof in a vacuum. The collapse of Building Seven left a curiously small and tidy rubble pile, and the buildings to either side of it were relatively undamaged. It had not been hit by an airplane and had suffered only minor injuries to its structure when the Twin Towers collapsed.

    The Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Office of Emergency Management's "Crisis Center" occupied huge amounts of space there, spanning several floors of the building. Other federal agencies had offices there as well. After September 11, it was discovered that concealed within Building Seven was the largest clandestine domestic station of the Central Intelligence Agency outside of Washington DC, a base of operations from which to spy on diplomats of the United Nations and to conduct counterterrorism and counterintelligence missions.

    But the 9/11 Commission Report, supposed to investigate thoroughly all aspects and consequences of the attacks for devising public safety and national security recommandations, does not even mention Building Seven, its collapse, nor the bizarre specifics of that collapse. Nor did NIST, the government agency assigned to investigate the collapse of the Twin Towers. Like the 9/11 Commission, they completely ignored the suspicious collapse of Building Seven procrastinating the publication of their report time and again. [1]

    Do you know that one of George Bush's top Cabinet Secretaries later said that the conquest of Iraq had been planned since he first took the Office of President and that an invasion had been discussed at the first meeting of the National Security Council? But there had not yet been justification strong enough to invade. Not until September 11, 2001. The attacks on the World Trade Center gave them the justification they had been seeking.

    But the first casualty of all war is the truth. The reasons given for attacking Iraq were knowingly fraudulent. Intelligence documents that had been submitted as evidence were deliberately fabricated. There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction and there were no links to al Qaeda. We all know that the U.S. authorities tried to deceive us about the existence of clandestine prisons around the world and the systemic torture of prisoners. The U.S. government lied. International law was violated.

    Again the media was manipulated, and some willingly played the role of accomplice. US news crews signed contracts with the military that limited what they were allowed to report, and a few reporters were even paid by the government to write stories favorable to the administration. As Josef Goebbels said, "He who controls the medium controls the message." And thus the aggression continued.

    My book is not about conspiracy theories, but I do offer my theory. And my theory is that there was a conspiracy and I approach the subject from my point of view and experience. But mostly it is about the bizarre events that have happened (and are still happening) to me after my tour of duty at Ground Zero.

    I was at the world Trade Center. I was part of the official investigation. Previously I had been an official videographer for the US government in critical or catastrophic situations. I've done work characterized as confidential at many classified and maximum security locations related to the storage, development and transportation of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons or their components and participated in simulations and training for disasters, catastrophic accidents and terrorist incidents for many different agencies.

    Immediately after the attacks on the World Trade Center, the entire area in lower Manhattan was sealed off to the public and to the news media. All cameras were prohibited inside the secured perimeter and any "unauthorized" cameras were immediately confiscated. I was given total and absolute access, however, and was instructed to document for the investigation and to provide some "sanitized" pool video to virtually every news network in the world. But I never handed my tapes over to the authorities.

    Since then, over the course of the past seven years, I have been falsely accused, imprisoned twice in two different countries, tortured, put in solitary confinement, followed across two continents and slandered relentlessly in a campaign to dehumanize me so that no one will protest and to discredit me so that when I talk, no one will listen. Four years ago, the US embassy sent a note to Argentine officials to confiscate all of my possessions and documents and to remit them to the United States. To this day, my wife, my twin daughters and I live in a closed world surrounded by threat and harassment.

    I wrote this book to save my family.



    https://www.sott.net/article/501749-...t-9-11-witness

    Vicus comment:

    I remember some comments from him about "steel columns cut in angle and still molten steel ..."
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    Just for reference… to whom it may concern.

    The No-Plane Theory

    “Any video that shows an aluminum airplane with a fiberglass nose cone gliding through a steel and concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion.”

    I am firmly in the “No Plane” camp. Richard Roth, speaking on behalf of the architectural firm that designed the Towers, described each of the perimeter walls as essentially “a steel beam 209′ deep.” Again, 14-inch steel beams every 40 inches. An aluminum airplane can’t pass through a wall of steel. What about the 52-foot-tall tail section and the 159-foot wingspan? They would have broken off on impact and crumpled to the ground.

    See an Aluminum F4 Phantom Hit a Concrete Wall at 500 MPH
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niAxSupDiMY

    Baxter Dimytry wrote that records from 911, according to BTS statistics, show that both flights 11 and 77 officially never took off on 9/11, and “Investigators who have checked the tail numbers for the planes that departed as UA 93 and UA 175 on 9/11 (namely N591UA and N612UA, respectively) believe that these planes are still in service. If so, and if AA 11 and AA 77 never existed, then the number of Boeing 757s and 767s destroyed on 9/11 was not four, as the US government maintains, but rather zero.” See the article here:

    https://jameshfetzer.org/2021/03/cia...wers-on-9-11/#

    Many people, including former CIA and Commercial pilot John Lear and 911 expert and founder of Scholars For 911 Truth, Jim Fetzer, believe “Airborne Holographic Projection” was used on 9/11. Most Americans were unaware of the US Air Force’s Advanced Hologram Technology. See:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/E3YaOLqzcwzF/
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    • Tucker Carlson's 9/11 Documentary Is Making People NERVOUS:

    • 00:00 Tucker Carlson releases 9/11 docuseries
    • 02:50 Building 7
    • 11:30 Did anyone know 9/11 was going to happen?
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Over 20 Years Later

    now part 3

    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1975531554513260991



    Tucker Carlson

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    The 9/11 Files: They Could Have Stopped It | Ep 3


    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    copying here (have not watched yet)

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970458136327729382




    Tucker Carlson

    @TuckerCarlson
    ·
    45m
    The first of our five-part series on 9/11. Enjoy.


    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970269378190118920


    update - I just watched, and the case for CIA/Saudi involvement in 'trying to get a source within Al Queda' and not notifying the FBI was well documented, with Brennan's substantial involvement, but nothing so far to indicate Tucker suspects they were really just establishing these 'hijackers' as a 'patsy' for what Cheney and Mossad and others really had planned.

    So far the mechanics of CIA fingerprints on the OP and later Bush admin coverups for the commission are being documented, but this does not appear to be going to go nearly as deep as it needs to.


    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Here is part 2



    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1972994844088799342



    Tucker Carlson


    The 9/11 Files: The Cover-up Commission | Ep 2
    I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. - Robert Anton Wilson

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    (avatar image: Brocken spectre, a wonderful phenomenon of nature I have experienced and a symbol for my aspirations.)

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    Tucker Carlson claims 9/11 could have been stopped. But how? The erosion of rights in the USA happened after 9/11. I think Americans have become so used to fascism at home and terrorism abroad that they do not ask the right questions. On what basis would the FBI have arrested or deported the hijackers? Perhaps the FBI could have got a court order to allow them to put the men under surveillance, but I assume that was being done, and perhaps illegally? Supposedly the hijackers were flagged but were allowed to board the planes without being questioned or searched. Did the FBI have a legitimate reason to question them and thus stop them getting on the plane?
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