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    Alway like to listen Stephanie Ruhle... interesting talk and answers...

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    MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle joins Joanna Coles to unpack Donald Trump’s power moves against the Federal Reserve's governors. From his campaign against Fed chairman Jerome Powell to saying he has fired Black governor Lisa Cook, the conversation reveals a president at war with the independent central bank.

    The two explore how Trump leans on Wall Street CEOs, demands loyalty over judgment, and pulls business leaders like Jeff Bezos and Tim Cook into his orbit as props in his economic battles.
    And Ruhle spells out why Wall Street's hair is on fire about New York socialist Zohran Mamdami but it should be ablaze about Trump.

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    04:36 - Trump Attack On Lisa Cook
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    What Impact Have Tariffs Had?
    Now that we are more than halfway through 2025, it is clear that many of Trump's critics regarding his tariffs were simply wrong. Not surprisingly, the critics were driven by their political ideology rather than sound economic judgment. Many of these economic experts, youtube influencers and podcasters swore to their viewers and readers that the tariffs were going to crash the market and sink the economy by mid-summer. These experts are getting schooled by Trump, he has shown them that tariffs protect existing American manufacturing, return American manufacturing to American soil, reduce trade deficits, and serve as leverage in trade negotiations.

    The destruction of Globalization was never about Tariffs
    Many of the so-called geopolitical experts said that Trump's tariffs were going to end globalizaion. The tariffs were meant pull American manufacturing back on US soil, and generate revenue to offset the deficit but they were never intended to end globalization.

    Illegal Immigration Stop Globalization
    Trump's shift away from globalization is evident in his policies and actions. First and foremost, Trump has put an end to illegal immigration in the USA and sent a clear message to the people (not governments) of the world that unvetted, unimpeded illegal immigration is not good for any country.

    Peace Prevents Globalization
    Trump understands that war is the staple of the globalist. He knows that peace around the world prevents the influence of globalization in several ways, both by promoting stability and by potentially slowing certain aspects of global interconnectedness. Peace reduces the need for international intervention, stops the flow of aid and decreases migration flows. The linchpin of globalism is to create war and conflict so that the people of the world feel that only a global government can solve the problem. It never ceases to amaze me that peace is one of the main reasons that Trump is so reviled.

    Trump Cancels Accords, Treaties and Pulls the USA our of Global Organizations
    He also views international agreements as a serious constraint on American sovereignty. Trump has rightly called the United Nations "a poorly run organization full of diplomats incapable of making consequential decisions." Trump's strategic withdrawals have had a disproportionate impact on the legitimacy and functionality of Global institutions. UN Secretary-General António Guterres has expressed concern over the "decline of U.S. leadership and soft power, warning that global problems cannot be solved without American engagement." When you see the word engagement, read American money. Trump has pulled the United States out of the following organization, and this is only the beginning.
    • (UNHRC) UN Human Rights Council
    • (UNESCO) United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization
    • (UNRWA) UN Relief and Works Agency)
    • (WHO) World Health Organization
    • (ICC) International Criminal Court
    • Paris Climate Accord
    • Universal Postal Union
    • Trump terminated the U.S. International Climate Financing Plan
    • He is ready to withdraw from the International Energy Agency
    The is little doubt that Trump's preference is for unilateral, transactional foreign policy. His entire focus is on returning financial health to the USA, bringing back common sense and the destruction of the global agenda.

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    I do not see Trump as a good president... ever... history is going to remember him as the greatest businessman ever.. first he bankrupt his own companies.... now he will bankrupt the united states....
    and will go around the world...
    The world have more alternatives for sure... we are in multipolar world... there are lot of big strong countries... developing countries.
    I do not like.. US want to roll the whole world with a stick... doesn’t seem appropriate at all... with Trump US has too much power and often misuses it...
    US is a great country... there are great people with talents... but out there could be more balance for a better world for all... not only Trump's world in US... or in planed Trump's Riviera in Gaza...


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    U.S. President Donald Trump is weaponising tariffs against India, but the messaging coming from within the United States, more so from the White House, is appearing more and more contradictory, convoluted, and devoid of logic.


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    BREAKING: Appeals Court STRIKES DOWN Trump Tariffs!!


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    Most of President Donald Trump’s global tariffs were ruled illegal by a federal appeals court that found he exceeded his authority in imposing them. Stonecourt Capital Partner Rick Davis and Iona University Political Science Professor Jeanne Sheehan Zaino react on "Balance of Power."


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    I post this so people can get a straightforward, honest perspective on the court's ruling today. I view the comrade Trump stuff (videos above) and the other clickbait videos as a true waste of time.

    The U.S. Court of International Trade initially overturned most of President Trump's tariffs today, ruling that his use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to impose sweeping tariffs was illegal and exceeded presidential authority. However, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit temporarily stayed that ruling, allowing the tariffs to remain in place pending appeal.

    The Federal Circuit issued a 7-4 decision (along party lines) affirming that the tariffs were illegal, agreeing that Trump had overstepped his authority by using IEEPA to impose tariffs, but it vacated the lower court’s injunction, permitting the tariffs to stay in effect for now while the administration appeals to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court may not take this case on until the Spring of 2026, but that is unlikely. While there are no guarantees which way the Supreme Court will rule, the prevailing wisdom is that they will overturn the decsion of the US Court of International Trade.

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    United States Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick claimed that President Trump's tariff war were yield over $50 billion in revenue for the United States. Cenk Uygur and John Iadarola discuss on The Young Turks. Do you agree with TYT's take? Tell us what you think in the comments below.

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    I suggested a while back that none of this would end well. Of course, I was far from the only one, but the evidence is mounting that all this is an incoming economic catastrophe for the US.
    Market Maelstrom Returns As China Escalates Trade War With Sanctions, Tit-For-Tat Port Fees

    Global equity futures slipped on Tuesday after China vowed to "fight to the end" in its trade war with the U.S., following President Trump's threat last week to impose 100% tariffs on Chinese goods. Despite Washington's attempts to soften its tone over the weekend, tensions are intensifying into the new week: both countries are imposing new docking fees on each other's vessels, signaling deepening Sino-US relations ahead of Trump-Xi talks. Adding to the flaring tensions, Beijing sanctioned five U.S. subsidiaries of South Korean shipbuilder Hanwha Ocean, while U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent accused China of deliberately undermining the global economy.

    Trump's move last Friday to threaten Beijing with an additional 100% tariff on Chinese goods, in response to China's sweeping new export controls on rare earths and ahead of a planned Trump-Xi meeting later this month, signals that both sides are trying to gain as much leverage as possible before the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in South Korea.

    The Chinese Commerce Ministry condemned the Trump administration's tactics, calling them incompatible with dialogue. "If you wish to fight, we shall fight to the end; if you wish to negotiate, our door remains open," a ministry spokesperson said.

    "The United States cannot simultaneously seek dialogue while threatening to impose new restrictive measures. This is not the proper way to engage with China," the ministry said.

    On Sunday, Trump walked back his rhetoric in a Truth Social post that said "it will all be fine", adding that the U.S. wants to "help" China. This relief sent global equities soaring on Monday, yet the outlook darkened on Tuesday after the ministry sanctioned South Korean shipbuilder Hanwha.

    China's Commerce Ministry wrote in a statement that Hanwha Ocean's five U.S. subsidiaries, Hanwha Shipping LLC, Hanwha Philly Shipyard Inc., Hanwha Ocean USA International LLC, Hanwha Shipping Holdings LLC, and HS USA Holdings Corp, are sanctioned over "assisting and supporting the U.S. government's probes and measures against Chinese maritime, logistics and shipbuilding sectors. China is strongly dissatisfied and resolutely opposes it."

    Earlier Tuesday, Beijing confirmed it had begun imposing additional port fees on vessels linked to the U.S., while clarifying that Chinese-built ships would be exempt from the new charges. This tit-for-tat followed the U.S. decision to impose on Chinese vessels at U.S. ports.

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    I wonder if it is purposeful to neglect to mention the new unilateral restrictions China imposed on the world for its exotic minerals and other related crucial resources?

    By the way it is China that is over-exposed not the USA.

    While the USA pivots to economic restructuring in a bid to establish a Golden Age of America, China is pivoting to a war footing. With its domestic economy in tatters, there are not many options left for it other than impose economic sanctions on all the world, short of dealing respectfully with the rest of the world, which it abhors.
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    I am placing here just a little humorous... for good morning Tuesday...


    Economic genius Trump

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    Carl Worker

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    Extraordinary arrogance.

    Li Chenggang is China’s most senior trade policy official and the number two alongside Vice Premier He in charge of trade negotiations with the US. Bessent however decides to insult him publicly (calling him a “lower level trade person who is slightly unhinged”) and reveals that he does not even know how to pronounce his name. Tantamount to proclaiming a lack of respect for the Chinese side. With leadership like that, the US is in trouble.

    US Treasury Secretary Bessent: There is a low-level official in the Chinese trade team who is unhinged, and his name is Li Chenggang. In August, Li Chenggang made threats to plunge the global economy into chaos if the United States imposes fees on Chinese ships docking. Now it's China against the whole world.

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    Peter Lindström

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    China announces reciprocal Port fee tariffs on US vessels

    Below translated from Chinese with Gemini.

    #shipping #maritime #trade #ustr #US #china

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    Arnaud Bertrand

    Shows once more that this account 👇 is knowledge-free ****posting: Li's WTO role has nothing to do with his role as negotiator with Bessent.

    In fact he was promoted into his current role as "China International Trade Representative" back in April FROM his WTO role (https://reuters.com/world/china/chin...-2025-04-16/): the news of him being "removed" from the WTO role is simply him wrapping up his previous role so he can presumably fully focus on negotiating with Bessent 😏

    https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1980247345087590757



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    I skip all Hedge's China stuff because it seems wholly informed by the Falun Gong's Epoch Times.

    The fact that a routine dismissal following exactly the same procedure that has been in practice for years has been repackaged into some kind of "BIG NEWS" just shows how ignorant some have become (or may has always been) on China's political process, cherry-picking datapoints and misinterpreting them to fit in a biased understanding.

    This morning, Beijing time 1020am, Xinhua News reported that President Xi Jinping has signed off on dismissing Li Chenggang from the role of China's ambassador to the WTO and UN Geneva. Li Yongjie, former MOFCOM deputy international trade representative until the end of June 2025, was appointed to replace Li Chenggang in the same announcement.

    This was immediately interpreted by some as China bowing down to Bessent, who has singled out Li Chenggang as "hostile" in his latest attack on China in the recent escalation of trade tensions. However, what in fact happened was:

    1. Li Chenggang was promoted to become MOFCOM international trade negotiator--a full-ministerial role--in April at the onset of the trade war with the US, and had returned to Beijing from Geneva to lead China's trade negotiation. China's ambassador to the WTO and UN Geneva is a vice-ministerial-rank job, half a level below the international trade negotiator in administrative rank.

    2. His replacement, Li Yongjie, was most certainly chosen before the end of June, when Li Yongjie was dismissed as deputy international trade negotiator.

    3. China's appointments of ambassadors take place in cohorts. It is the standard practice that multiple ambassadors are appointed/dismissed. Just today, Beijing appointed a total of SEVEN ambassadors, including Li Yongjie, and dismissed their predecessors, including Li Chenggang, from their previous ambassadorial roles in the same announcement.

    4. In short, these latest dismissals and appointments are just routine practice Beijing has been following for years on its own, fixed schedule. It has nothing to do with how the US has been singling out a full minister for its own, could-be tactical purposes in trade negotiations.

    5. This reminds me of the balloongate of 2023, when many misinterpreted the dismissal of then-China Meteorological Administration head Zhuang Guotai as Beijing scapegoating him. Zhuang, in fact, was promoted to become a full-ministerial chairman at Gansu CPPCC days before that dismissal. State Council dismissals and appointments, unfortunately, to the disadvantage of self-claimed China watchers, also happen in cohorts.

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    This utter bull**** by the CTO of Palantir, Shyam Sankar, needs to be called out.

    The US never offered China “peaceful coexistence.” The US wanted China subordinated. They wanted China’s cheap labour inserted into their supply chains and its cheap goods to flow into the US market.

    The US actually got this extremely lucrative deal for decades, draining value from the Chinese economy.

    Sankar says that “No country did more for Chinese prosperity than America.” In reality, it’s closer to the opposite.

    The electronics giant Apple is the perfect case in point. Apple has made a fortune in China: $227 billion in operating profit over the past 10 years, which accounts for over a quarter of its total operating profit during this period.

    US consumers have also benefited hugely from China’s integration into the global economy: the price of manufactured goods imported into the US has declined massively relative to US consumer prices in non-traded sectors between the 1980s and 2010s — in some instances by more than 40%.

    The only “crime” China has committed is developing its economy, cleverly using international trade and foreign investment to their benefit. And this is exactly what Palantir’s CTO, Shyam Sankar — and so many others in the US ruling class — has an issue with.

    The US government is now throwing everything but the kitchen sink at China in an attempt to halt China's economic development. Why? Because China is doing exactly the one thing the US has never been willing to accept: sovereign, independent development that isn’t subservient to US interests.

    In some ways, it’s good that we’re exposed to views like Sankar’s — however much he distorts reality — because the mask is finally off. It’s now clear as day that Sankar and his allies in the US ruling class will only accept a global economic order controlled and dominated by the US.

    https://x.com/haugejostein/status/1979666368283787268





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    Ironically, it's EXACTLY people like Shyam Sankar who are at the center of the US's current predicament.

    China is rising because it focuses, first and foremost, on improving itself for its own sake. To the extent there is one, that's the magic formula.

    Folks like Sankar, the CTO of Palantir and therefore a core member of the US military-industrial complex, have for decades driven the US to do anything BUT that. The priority is always, as is painfully obvious from his post, to drive hatred and aim for the destruction of others. While, laughably, claiming in the same breath that "America has a positive sum spirit" 🤦‍♂️

    As long as these sorts of people are in the driving seat, China can actually rest easy. It's the day someone says "You know what, let's stop obsessing over China and other scapegoats, and focus on rebuilding our own infrastructure and education system" that they should start to worry.

    Exactly, that's what the "black/white cat" metaphor was all about

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    One comment from US:

    " Canada....Is Not The Problem
    IT'S OUR CORRUPT PRESIDENT THAT IS THE PROBLEM"


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    This is insane Trump's US... they are shouting "America first"... while importing beef... how can they pay ICE... but cannot pay air traffic controllers... how are they tearing the White House down and building a ballroom while shutting the government down.... Trump is NOT!!!!

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    The US Supreme Court has just ruled that Donald Trump's tariff actions are illegal. (I do feel I have to say that I was fully expecting this. Trump had weaponized them to function as sanctions, which was never their legally established purpose.)

    Here's the CNN page: (but everyone is headlining this)
    Supreme Court rules that Trump’s sweeping emergency tariffs are illegal
    The Supreme Court on Friday ruled that President Donald Trump violated federal law when he unilaterally imposed sweeping tariffs across the globe, a striking loss for the White House on an issue that has been central to the president’s foreign policy and economic agenda.

    The decision is arguably the most important loss the second Trump administration has sustained at the conservative Supreme Court, which last year repeatedly sided with the president in a series of emergency rulings on immigration, the firing of the leaders of independent agencies and deep cuts to government spending.

    And here's Fox News, which is far more friendly to Trump:
    Trump responds to Supreme Court ruling rejecting sweeping tariffs powers: 'A disgrace'
    President Donald Trump has reportedly reacted to the Supreme Court's 6-3 decision that ruled he does not have the authority to levy sweeping tariffs under a specific emergency powers law.

    A source outside the Trump administration told Fox News that an aide came into the closed-door White House breakfast with governors and handed Trump a note about the Supreme Court ruling.

    The source said Trump "called it a disgrace, and then he went on with the remarks."

    The high court blocked Trump's tariffs levied under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act in what amounts to a major test of executive branch authority.
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    Trump is about to hold a press conference about this, streamed live here:

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    Yes, it's not that the tariffs are illegal...it's an abuse of power. Not in his job description. Presidents cannot simply go on saying "National Emergency" this that and the other where none exists.

    The disgrace is not that this was a "hung panel" requiring one vote to tip it one way or the other, but that a majority of the Judicial knows how to read and took away the toys a brat is not supposed to have. The reaction is the same as with everything else, name-calling. That won't get you any favors.

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    Mitigating the fallout from the gaffe may be awkward, as for example new F-35s have ballast weights instead of radar pods because:


    Quote Although the Pentagon markets these radars as purely “Made in the USA”, the truth is that the raw materials and commodities needed to produce them come from China. As previously mentioned, it produces around 98% of the world’s raw gallium, which is a byproduct of aluminum processing, an industry dominated by the unrivaled Chinese production economy. Due to US aggression in the Asia-Pacific and continuous trade warfare, Beijing imposed its own counter-sanctions on Washington DC. It initially restricted exports, but the US kept escalating, forcing China to impose a blanket ban on all gallium exports to America.

    Our Supreme Court has no effect on the Chinese decision.

    That's ok, I just want normal consumer goods, not high-tech hardware. I imagine there may be a few other glitches that have gone into the great vacuum cleaner of "make Europe give it to me" or some other weird structure interfering with normal transit.

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