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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    This looks like Game, Set, and Match to me.

    Trump says this today on Truth Social,

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    We have successfully tricked the Left into caring about Epstein.

    We couldn’t get the Left to acknowledge Epstein for 20 years. They said it was a “conspiracy theory”.

    Now they are BEGGING for answers, because they think it leads to getting Trump.

    But it leads to Clinton…

    Video is from CPAC 2015: Trump always knew. Why? Because Trump is the one who helped Epstein’s victims seek justice all the way back in 2006.

    Trump never did anything nefarious, illegal, or immoral with Epstein. It’s the exact opposite. Trump was Epstein’s #1 enemy and greatest threat.

    Trump has been gunning for Epstein for 20 years, and now the public are begging for answers.

    Let’s give them some.



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    Good old George...


    When Donald met Virginia in the Epstein mansion

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    Call me crazy,but ive got this strange suspicion (hopium?)that Trump is using this same type of strategy with the zionist project and the aipac sponsors;not he himself should bring it on and be vulnerable for -again- being cancelled and attacked for it(and making all the sponsors angry!)but in stead let the truth bombs implode within the establishment ,let the mask fall off from all who attack the truthtellers ,effectively digging their own graves... the lies are more exposed then ever;Epstein,Israel,Charlie Kirk,BBC& jan6 etc.and the whole world is watching because it BECAME MAINSTREAM!

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    I have a very low opinion of Trump and find the scramble to defend him a bit over-the-top. However, all kinds of media are awash with people making sensational claims about Trump and the Epstein files. It is hype to the extent of gaslighting.

    It has been a well-known fact for years that Epstein and Trump were friends for about 10 years, and there are plenty of photographs to back this up, plus the birthday message! It has also been well known that the two men had a falling out (about a real estate deal). The emails confirm that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago and that he had an issue with the girls (the young masseuse that Trump had working at Mar a Lago that Epstein was exploiting). Epstein says in an email that he was never a member at Mar a Lago, but why would he also say that Trump kicked him out (Trump spoke to Ghislaine and not Epstein)? We also know that Trump spent time with Epstein at his home and enjoyed being surrounded by girls. (It seems that Trump objected to his employees being exploited and not the young women!) Trump never visited the island and even though the two men fell out, Epstein confirmed in an email (he was actually raging) that the accusation of Trump exploiting a young woman on the island could not be true because Trump never visited the island. So, the released files simply tell us what we already knew about Trump and Epstein.

    What is very interesting about the released emails is that they reveal Epstein's very close involvement with Israel. He practically worked for Israel at all levels, brokering all kinds of diplomatic, commercial and military/security deals with countries all over the world, including Russia. Epstein tried to get Putin hooked up with some young girls. This intrigues me ... he tried the same with Peter Thiel, who is gay. And the Musk brothers.l, plus many others. Was this a strategy to get blackmail material for Israel? And why did he assume that every man wanted to be 'massaged' by young girls, and more? And did Israel have him killed when he was in jail because one of their biggest assets in the USA had become a liability?
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    Interesting... just watched this.. also... I am not putting so much importances on emails.. the whole saga lies at FBI and DOJ... everything will be out in open... everyone will be exposed!


    I Let AI Read the New Epstein Emails. And the Verdict is INSANE


    Today I’m asking AI to break down three leaked Epstein emails in detail and tell us whether they change the big picture. Then we’ll see if AI buys what Trump and the White House are saying about the leak. And at the end, I’m asking straight up - was Donald Trump actually involved in Epstein’s trafficking or not?

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    Interesting... just watched this.. also... I am not putting so much importances on emails.. the whole saga lies at FBI and DOJ... everything will be out in open... everyone will be exposed!

    I Let AI Read the New Epstein Emails. And the Verdict is INSANE


    Today I’m asking AI to break down three leaked Epstein emails in detail and tell us whether they change the big picture. Then we’ll see if AI buys what Trump and the White House are saying about the leak. And at the end, I’m asking straight up - was Donald Trump actually involved in Epstein’s trafficking or not?
    Nothing new here. This is drawn-out and clickbait-y, and ChatGPT is NOT needed to help humans figure any of this out.

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    If they had anything at all that was damning of Trump re his behaviour or conduct around young girls, or membership in the Epstein 'club' -- 'they' being the deep-state never-Trumpers, Obama, the Clintons, Comey, etc -- they would have nailed him to the wall with it before he ever got into office in 2016. Before he ever ran.

    They never did because they had nothing.

    They never did because the Epstein affair does not lead to Trump.

    They sat on it -- and Biden sat on it for the duration of his tenure -- because it leads somewhere else.

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    She lost a lot of subscribers these three days...

    Megyn Kelly: Listen to the Children Epstein Preyed Upon



    Megyn Kelly: Listen to the Children Epstein Preyed Upon

    00:00 Welcome to the Tara Palmeri Show
    02:05 Megyn Kelly’s Shocking Epstein Defense
    05:35 Epstein Survivor Tapes & the Pyramid Scheme
    07:11 Tara joins Chris Hayes on MSNBC
    09:20 Epstein’s Emails: Trump Mentions Over 700 Times
    12:27 The “Dog That Didn’t Bark” & Ghislaine’s Contradictions
    14:55 Epstein’s Bait: Photos of Trump & “Girls in Bikinis”
    16:31 Thanks for watching the Tara Palmeri Show

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    She lost a lot of subscribers these three days...

    Megyn Kelly: Listen to the Children Epstein Preyed Upon



    Megyn Kelly: Listen to the Children Epstein Preyed Upon

    00:00 Welcome to the Tara Palmeri Show
    02:05 Megyn Kelly’s Shocking Epstein Defense
    05:35 Epstein Survivor Tapes & the Pyramid Scheme
    07:11 Tara joins Chris Hayes on MSNBC
    09:20 Epstein’s Emails: Trump Mentions Over 700 Times
    12:27 The “Dog That Didn’t Bark” & Ghislaine’s Contradictions
    14:55 Epstein’s Bait: Photos of Trump & “Girls in Bikinis”
    16:31 Thanks for watching the Tara Palmeri Show
    Its hard to watch this lowlevel smear on MK, pls lets keep the level up!pls dont pollute this thread with gossippy nonsense!Thanx

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    She lost a lot of subscribers these three days...

    Megyn Kelly: Listen to the Children Epstein Preyed Upon



    Megyn Kelly: Listen to the Children Epstein Preyed Upon

    00:00 Welcome to the Tara Palmeri Show
    02:05 Megyn Kelly’s Shocking Epstein Defense
    05:35 Epstein Survivor Tapes & the Pyramid Scheme
    07:11 Tara joins Chris Hayes on MSNBC
    09:20 Epstein’s Emails: Trump Mentions Over 700 Times
    12:27 The “Dog That Didn’t Bark” & Ghislaine’s Contradictions
    14:55 Epstein’s Bait: Photos of Trump & “Girls in Bikinis”
    16:31 Thanks for watching the Tara Palmeri Show
    Its hard to watch this lowlevel smear on MK, pls lets keep the level up!pls dont pollute this thread with gossippy nonsense!Thanx
    I was watching live Megy Kelly three days ago... please go and watch the whole talk with her guest...
    I was very shocked by her talking and trying to make her apologizing.. compering children with 13, 14 years old children Epstein raped...
    I think that Jimi Dore or Candace will mention also this one... also go and read the all comments Gini... on Kelly's channel!
    You are so one-sided... hm....

    People are talking... one of many videos...

    "He Liked 15 Year Old Girls…" Megyn Kelly’s 'Teen Girls' Comment On Epstein Sets Off Massive Outcry
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    --EPSTEIN FILES ERUPT: Is This MAGA’s Breaking Point? | Max Blumenthal

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    '' I was watching live Megy Kelly three days ago... please go and watch the whole talk with her guest...
    I was very shocked by her talking and trying to make her apologizing.. compering children with 13, 14 years old children Epstein raped...
    I think that Jimi Dore or Candace will mention also this one... also go and read the all comments Gini... on Kelly's channel!
    You are so one-sided... hm....

    People are talking... one of many videos... '' quote Bojancan - - post 270 - - -- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --All i hear is that MK makes a difference about the abuse of little children and the abuse of 15 year old girls,so whats the big scandal here ?? MK is clearly under fire since she is not cancelling Tucker,Candaca Owens and others who dont agree with the pro israel faction. Thats how it appears to me,nothing to do with being one-sidedness at all , just dont want to be too much sidetracked & distracted by non essential nonsense. -- --´Megyn Kelly Bizarrely Declared an Enemy of the Babylon Bee´. . -- --10 min-- --15/11/25 :focus:

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    I am wandering myself, who would be these moments a new Epstein.... I am remembering well too.. when W Webb was saying once... there is no need for a person like Epstein any longer... it is pa lan tir etc... that have this function and power now.... interesting George's Monologue...

    MONOLOGUE: Trump will not survive


    Inside the House of Sin. Epstein was no ordinary perv*rt. Kash Patel, the crosseyed halfw*t. And cross-dressing Miss Lindsey Graham

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    I'm convinced Trump is heavily involved, same as the Clintons, and many, many others. Unfortunately, too many people are blinded by their borderline worship of the man to see the situation for what it is, same as with Hillary Clinton at the onset of the whole thing.

    Personally, I don't care which side of political spectrum you fall on, what office you've held, how prestigious your achievements are. If you're involved, hang them in the streets. (not literally!)

    With that said, if anyone is seeking a neat-yet-thorough summary of the entire Epstein case and material, the best coverage on YouTube I've found has been the channel Crazy Days And Nights.

    The gentleman that runs it was previously dedicated to celebrity blind items, which are essentially coded, anonymous postings of juicy rumors about celebrities.

    Having always found celebrity culture insufferable, I didn't pay much attention to them, but according to my research, his blind items have an almost impeccable track record of later being proven true, which tells me he has some kind of insider access, or at the very least, a solid network of informants.

    He resides in Los Angeles, and has thankfully turned his discerning eye on Epstein and his ilk and shifted his focus primarily to that, though he still does blind items as sadly, that material is what attracts the most eyeballs and therefore gets food on his table.

    In any case, I find his no-frills investigative journalism refreshing. He asks the right questions for the most part, remains critical without getting carried away by sensationalism or clickbait, and avoids a lot of the conspiratorial pitfalls other creators do, which I believe is needed if we want to have the material taken seriously by the masses.

    (This isn't to say I think the conspiracies surrounding Elites and their more extreme activities false, just that we need to avoid that topic if we don't want to scare the normies off).

    Here's a playlist that covers most of the essentials, though he goes into the subject in others as well.

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    Kim suspects that it is not sexual but financial dirt they have on Donald to blackmail him...--15 min--Nov 17, 2025 #MOATS #Trump #Epstein
    ´Israel has something on the guy, Trump, says Kim Iversen. Epstein, blackmail and family ties. Hiding in plain sight´ ------ ----. ----- --------- ----------- -------- ------------- ------------- --------- -- ---- -- ---- --- --- ----- -- -- --- --- MTJ wants to fight for the women who came forward to testify against Epstein and says that she has no reason to not believe their testimonies that Trump did not participate in sexual abuse. ... --18 min--Nov 16, 2025 #CNN #News
    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) talks with CNN's Dana Bash in her first interview since President Donald Trump withdrew his endorsement of her and attacked her online as a "traitor."
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    My Opinion of course, I don't believe Trump is involved in anything regarding underage sexual stuff. I know him marginally and know many guys who know him well. He doesn't fit the profile in my mind, he's too smart with then a bright future to have witnesses to something like that.
    He's not a drinker or a drug user and it just doesn't add up for me. Of course I could be wrong.
    I do believe he could know too much about who IS involved, and could be compromised blackmailed etc . It's a very dirty world as we all know.
    If you hate trump, youll say guilty, If you like trump youll say not.

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    Remembering Virginia: the Epstein accuser who took down Prince Andrew | Extra Minutes
    60 Minutes Australia
    Nov 16, 2025

    (I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if Virginia really took her own life.
    I checked out Guiffe's book "Nobody's Girl" from the library, but could not read beyond the years of her brutal childhood. It was just too disturbing, though I wanted to honor her heroism by reading her book.
    Some people should not be allowed to have children. )

    "Tara Brown and Laura Sparkes discuss the legacy of Virginia Giuffre, one of the most prominent figures to stand up against Jeffrey Epstein and his network of powerful people. Tara has followed Virginia's story since 2019, and is one of the few journalists to have the privilege of getting to know her.
    Virginia took her own life in April 2025. Soon after, her revealing memoir was released.

    ► Jeffrey Epstein playlist: • The wicked saga of Jeffrey Epstein & Ghisl... "

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    I find this entire situation around Epstein to be a complete misdirection by the legion of Trump haters, not just Democrats, but also by an army of people telling us they are playing it straight down the centre. There is no doubt in my mind that all the people screaming for Trump's head will cry foul when the information is released because it simply will not indict Trump.

    Democrats have had four years of having complete access to the Epstein files. Anyone who thinks that they held back information that could have absolutely destroyed Trump is not thinking clearly. The fact that Epstein hated Trump is actually a glowing endorsement of Trump; he would not play the game, and he could not be bribed. Is it any wonder Epstein hated Trump?

    Trump's ego demands that the media talk about his successes, and he (rightfully) views the Epstein files as a complete waste of time. That was the reason Trump was reluctant to continue the Epstein Saga.

    Trump Demands Epstein Files Be Released

    Trump calls on House Republicans to vote to release Epstein files: 'We have nothing to hide'


    President Donald Trump speaks with reporters before boarding Air Force One as he departs Palm Beach International Airport in West Palm Beach, Florida, on November 16, 2025.

    President Donald Trump is calling on House Republicans to vote to release files related to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, insisting he has "nothing to hide" and accusing Democrats of using the case as a distraction from GOP accomplishments.

    In a Truth Social post on Sunday, Trump urged House Republicans to vote in favor of releasing the documents, describing the controversy as a "Democrat hoax perpetrated by radical left lunatics."

    "As I said on Friday night aboard Air Force One to the Fake News Media, House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files, because we have nothing to hide, and it’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax perpetrated by Radical Left Lunatics in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party, including our recent Victory on the Democrat 'Shutdown,'" Trump wrote.

    Trump pointed to the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) previous release of thousands of pages of Epstein-related documents.

    He also noted that the agency is investigating possible ties between Epstein and "Democrat operatives" including former President Bill Clinton, LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers.

    "The House Oversight Committee can have whatever they are legally entitled to, I DON’T CARE!" Trump said.

    He added, "All I do care about is that Republicans get BACK ON POINT, which is the Economy, ‘Affordability’ (where we are winning BIG!), our Victory on reducing Inflation from the highest level in History to practically nothing, bringing down prices for the American People, delivering Historic Tax Cuts, gaining Trillions of Dollars of Investment into America (A RECORD!), the rebuilding of our Military, securing our Border, deporting Criminal Illegal Aliens, ending Men in Women’s Sports, stopping Transgender for Everyone, and so much more!"

    Trump also argued that if the Democrats "had anything," it would have surfaced prior to last year's presidential election.

    "Nobody cared about Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive and, if the Democrats had anything, they would have released it before our Landslide Election Victory," Trump said. "Some ‘members’ of the Republican Party are being ‘used,’ and we can’t let that happen. Let’s start talking about the Republican Party’s Record Setting Achievements, and not fall into the Epstein ‘TRAP,’ which is actually a curse on the Democrats, not us. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

    Attorney General Pam Bondi announced Friday the DOJ would probe prominent Democrats after new emails revealed ties to Epstein.

    In an X post Friday afternoon, Bondi said Jay Clayton, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, would take the lead on the investigation.

    "Clayton is one of the most capable and trusted prosecutors in the country," Bondi wrote in the post. "As with all matters, the Department will pursue this with urgency and integrity to deliver answers to the American people."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...e-nothing-hide

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    ´Democrats CAUGHT Colluding With Epstein, Emails BACKFIRE, Trump says RELEASE The Files ´| Tim Pool. --. --21 min--17/11/25
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Trump Now Says He Supports Release of Epstein Files

    Reflections on the difference between what is illegal and what is embarrassing, and the loss of power that follows from the loss of mystique.
    Lately I’ve been wondering if the hypothesis that Epstein’s primary weapon was the use of underage girls may, to some extent, be a red herring.

    I imagine a scenario in which Epstein (or his masters) used the representation that underage girls were present at social gatherings to amplify the force of their blackmail operation. Epstein could have insinuated that underage girls were present and used it as a pretext for “letting attendees know”—months or even years later—that law enforcement had started asking questions.

    Epstein could have said something to the effect of, “Don’t worry, I’ve got you covered and I’ll keep you posted.” This sort of operation may be characterized as primarily psychological in nature—a way of instilling fear, paranoia, and compliance.

    Psychological terror would be further amplified once the word got out that Epstein had installed hidden video cameras in the various rooms of his various properties. At that point, the guys who attended his events would find themselves in a Catch-22. Those who were confident they had not broken any laws would want to exculpate themselves by proclaiming, “I don’t care if the files are released—I have nothing to hide.”

    The trouble is that—though they may have nothing illegal to hide—the disclosure of the documents and images could nevertheless prove to be extremely embarrassing for them.

    As Machiavelli pointed out in his 1513 pamphlet, The Prince (published in 1532) rulers must only present themselves to the people they rule in a formal, ceremonious way that maximizes their mystique.

    Once the ruler is shown to be an ordinary mortal with ordinary vices, his mystique is lost, and the plebeians will cease to perceive him as having any real power.

    This is why the British Royal Family is now widely regarded as an embarrassing joke. Once the males in the family are perceived to be ordinary weak men with ordinary weak men’s vices, they are done for.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the final cache of Epstein files does not reveal anything illegal, but turns out to be merely cringeworthy in the extreme.

    If my hypothesis proves to be correct, the great lords of this world will be exposed not so much as pedophiles, but as weak (and debased) flesh no different from us, apart from their vast wealth and privilege. At that point the plebeians will marvel that the great lords of this earth are a bunch of self-indulgent and immoral clowns.

    In reviewing the personal conflict between Gaius Octavius (who later became Emperor Augustus) and Marcus Antonius (Mark Antony), historians have pointed out that Octavian had the advantage of personal discipline, while Antony was too given to sensuality to maintain his power.

    In Rome it was claimed that Antony had been ruined by the “harlot queen” (meretrix regina) Cleopatra, while Octavian always stayed true to the Stoic principles he’d learned from his tutors, the philosophers Athenodorus Cananites and Arius Didymus.

    IF the Epstein files are ultimately disclosed in their entirety, the upshot may be that the powerful men of disciplined habits will survive the scandal, while those given to sensuality and self-indulgence will lose their mystique and therefore their power.

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