Turmoil in Venezuela

[bojancan]

At the end of the day... the truth reverberates and unites all people around the world... but not with Trump... U.S fatigue is a real thing...
Interesting talk... also talk by Berletić in other thread...

Dec, 06
Danny Haiphong
535K subscribers
Trump LOST Venezuela War Already, Russia & China just changed EVERYTHING | Ben Norton

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TdMgZc4wgo0

Trump's war on Venezuela is already backfiring and his new national security strategy only makes things worse says geopolitical analyst Ben Norton who joins the show to break down what China and Russia did to make Trump back off, and whether this new shift is part of something much bigger, and more dangerous.

[rgray222]

Posted by Rizotto (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)
Pete Hegseth, record spinner turned wannabe angel of death, should be suspended and investigated over fishing boat double tap, says Col Douglas Macgregor

Former disc jockey turned psycho killer

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RlExzF6xf_8

I don't want Trump to get the world into another war, but along with peace, I support honesty, especially in reporting. So when I see flagrant lying, I feel a need to call it out. There is so much proven dishonesty in this video that I'm surprised it is being posted. We know that the Washington Post piece was a dishonest hit job from start to finish. I am searching for the right word for these two characters with malicious intent to harm the public with untruthful information. I suppose Slanderers, Demagogues, Hatemongers, but I think I will go with sanctimonious vipers, more fitting and more honest.

What exactly did they say in that video that is untrue? Honest question. Are you talking about George Galloway and Doug McGregor?

I will answer this question, but not today; my time is limited for the rest of the day, but I wanted to let you know I have not missed your post.
R

[Rizotto]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2870894.html

November 23, 2025

Majority of Americans say Trump needs to show evidence that boats US is blowing up are really carrying drugs
A majority of Americans oppose war with Venezuela and believe President Donald Trump needs to provide evidence to justify military action against the nation

A new CBS/YouGov poll has found that a majority of Americans do not believe President Donald Trump has done enough to explain any possible U.S. military action against Venezuela.

According to the poll, 76 percent of respondents said they felt the president had not adequately justified the U.S.'s aggression toward the South American nation, which has thus far taken the form of rhetoric and strikes against alleged “drug boats.”

The poll also found that the majority of Americans — including Republicans — feel that Trump needs to provide an explanation for his military decisions. Virtually all — 97 percent — of Democrats said he had to explain, and 64 percent of Republicans agreed. Independents fell in the middle, with 86 percent saying the president should explain his thinking.

Trump has been using the U.S. military to destroy boats near Venezuela that his administration claims are operating as drug trafficking vessels. Those military strikes are killing the people onboard without providing due process or any attempt at more traditional interdiction, like the U.S. Coast Guard might undertake in domestic waters.

Americans are split on their views of the boat attacks. Some 53 percent of the respondents approve of the attacks, while 47 percent disapprove. But a majority — 75 percent — believe the U.S. should show evidence that the boats are carrying drugs before destroying them.

[Rizotto]

About the last sentence of the above article: "Americans are split on their views of the boat attacks. Some 53 percent of the respondents approve of the attacks, while 47 percent disapprove. But a majority — 75 percent — believe the U.S. should show evidence that the boats are carrying drugs before destroying them."

That sentence doesn't really make sense. Perhaps they meant to say that 53% vs 47% would approve vs disapprove of the attacks if it was proven that the boats were smuggling drugs.

However, the attacks were done in international waters, so even if these boats were carrying drugs, attacking them still would be against international law. The USA military is equipped with the most sophisticated satellite surveillance system in the world. Surely they can spot and intercept boats that illegally enter USA's coastal waters, usually 12 nautical miles. It would be a lot more efficient to check whether the boats have drugs, and if so, capture the smugglers & interrogate them as to whom they were going to deliver their cargo, and deal with those too. Then confiscate the boats and deport them all.

Best way to discourage the trafficking from outside/inside the border.

[Ravenlocke]

BreakThrough News

Dec 6
65+ cities saw protests today against Trump’s escalating war drive on Venezuela. On Friday, the administration officially declared the neo-colonial Monroe Doctrine to be its guiding policy towards Latin America and the Caribbean.

The day of action was initiated by
@answercoalition
, and endorsed by
@codepink
,
@peoplesforumnyc
,
@Blacks4Peace
,
@wearedissenters
,
@pslnational
,
@DemSocialists
and others.

https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1997500908637204631

Fox News

‘HANDS OFF VENEZUELA’: Protesters in more than 65 U.S. cities rallied as tensions rise between the U.S. and Venezuela — with drug-boat strikes intensifying and President Trump issuing an ultimatum for Nicolás Maduro to flee ahead of possible ground operations.

https://x.com/FoxNews/status/1997868524572733458

CODEPINK
Dec 6
HANDS OFF VENEZUELA

NOW: We are outside of the White House protesting against the Trump administration bombing boats in the Caribbean and the Pacific & threatening to attack Venezuela.

https://x.com/codepink/status/1997385809566085277

[rgray222]

Posted by Rizotto (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)
Pete Hegseth, record spinner turned wannabe angel of death, should be suspended and investigated over fishing boat double tap, says Col Douglas Macgregor

Former disc jockey turned psycho killer

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RlExzF6xf_8

I don't want Trump to get the world into another war, but along with peace, I support honesty, especially in reporting. So when I see flagrant lying, I feel a need to call it out. There is so much proven dishonesty in this video that I'm surprised it is being posted. We know that the Washington Post piece was a dishonest hit job from start to finish. I am searching for the right word for these two characters with malicious intent to harm the public with untruthful information. I suppose Slanderers, Demagogues, Hatemongers, but I think I will go with sanctimonious vipers, more fitting and more honest.

What exactly did they say in that video that is untrue? Honest question. Are you talking about George Galloway and Doug McGregor?

We don’t know if Admiral Bradley was under oath during the congressional hearing because it was classified and held behind closed doors. However, it’s important to remember that knowingly lying to Congress is a federal crime, even if the statement isn’t made under oath, it can result in fines, prison time or both. Given this, it’s reasonable to believe that the Admiral had a strong incentive to tell the truth.

Once again, it’s the same playbook, the same players, The Washington Post, The New York Times, and anonymous sources, they comprise the trifecta of the Trump trolls. Admiral Bradley's testimony gives credence to the fact that virtually everything in this video is conjecture, false and or misleading. He stated in a closed-door briefing that he was not given any "kill them all" order from Hegseth. Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers have confirmed Bradley’s account, saying there was no such directive.

MacGregor and his sidekick are the supporting cast for the trifecta trolls, charged with rapid and immediate distribution of dishonest propaganda while it is still topical.

I sincerely apologize for promising to review and to point out all the false statements and outright lies in this video. Honestly, it feels petty and childish to do so, but I feel compelled to do it because I told you I would follow up. As I rewatch it, I realize that no matter what I say, it probably won’t make much difference because it’s clear you want Trump to fail, and you want to believe he’s guilty of this so-called "illegal military order” crime. No amount of factual information or congressional testimony will likely change your mind.

A list of obvious lies

• First off, the title of this video is untruthful, Former disc jockey turned psycho killer, obviously fake, emotionally charged clickbait, but it was funny
• Admiral Bradley testified he was not thrown under the bus or the ship.
• Admiral Bradley testified that these were not fishing boats but drug boats belonging to the cartels.
• Admiral Bradley testified that these were not fishermen; these were designated terrorists going 45 mph in the open seas on a go-fast boat full of drugs.
• Admiral Bradley testified he was not given a "kill them all" order
• According to five U.S. officials at the hearings, the follow-up strikes that killed survivors were authorized by Admiral Bradley, not Hegseth
• The orders to fire on the drug boat a second time have not been challenged in court. Saying they were "illegal" orders is a lie
• Hegseth never said he had watched the entire video
• There was no "Presidential kill order" per se

The only honest portion of the video happened at the very end when MacGregor said he did not have all the facts. I got another smile when MacGregor used the dead fish metaphor because it is so very accurate for journalism. I understand the short, shocking videos are ideal for scandal-style journalism. They are easy to personalize and emotionally charged, perfect for clickbait or lazy journalism. This is the kind of journalism that sadly allows the thousands of deaths simultaneously happening in other parts of the world to be framed as background noise.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I realize that no matter what I say, it probably won’t make much difference because ...

The persistent efforts of Avalon's own cadre of TDS survivors did have one benefit ...

It resulted in your clear headed, well written, explanation of one of the many divisive diversions that the agents of chaos have been serving up to us.

Thanks!

[Ewan]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I realize that no matter what I say, it probably won’t make much difference because ...

TDS survivors

An acronym I fail to decipher, help please?

[Rizotto]

Posted by Ewan (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I realize that no matter what I say, it probably won’t make much difference because ...

TDS survivors

An acronym I fail to decipher, help please?

TDS: "Trump Derangement Syndrome"
At first it was used to denigrate those who were irrationally opposed to anything Trump. Now it's being used to shut down all and any criticism of Trump.
So, in my opinion, TDS now goes both ways.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Now it's being used to shut down all and any criticism of Trump.

Phrases such as "XYZ survivors" refer to those who survived a previous period of XYZ in their lives.

I was using the "TDS survivors" phrase, in the more original meaning of the "TDS" acronym, to those who apparently had a period of "If Trump, therefore bad" reactions in their past, or at least, it sure looked that way to many of us observers.

As for who thinks what right now ... that remains to be seen and understood.

[Rizotto]

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by Rizotto (here)

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)
Pete Hegseth, record spinner turned wannabe angel of death, should be suspended and investigated over fishing boat double tap, says Col Douglas Macgregor

Former disc jockey turned psycho killer

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RlExzF6xf_8

I don't want Trump to get the world into another war, but along with peace, I support honesty, especially in reporting. So when I see flagrant lying, I feel a need to call it out. There is so much proven dishonesty in this video that I'm surprised it is being posted. We know that the Washington Post piece was a dishonest hit job from start to finish. I am searching for the right word for these two characters with malicious intent to harm the public with untruthful information. I suppose Slanderers, Demagogues, Hatemongers, but I think I will go with sanctimonious vipers, more fitting and more honest.

What exactly did they say in that video that is untrue? Honest question. Are you talking about George Galloway and Doug McGregor?

We don’t know if Admiral Bradley was under oath during the congressional hearing because it was classified and held behind closed doors. However, it’s important to remember that knowingly lying to Congress is a federal crime, even if the statement isn’t made under oath, it can result in fines, prison time or both. Given this, it’s reasonable to believe that the Admiral had a strong incentive to tell the truth.

Once again, it’s the same playbook, the same players, The Washington Post, The New York Times, and anonymous sources, they comprise the trifecta of the Trump trolls. Admiral Bradley's testimony gives credence to the fact that virtually everything in this video is conjecture, false and or misleading. He stated in a closed-door briefing that he was not given any "kill them all" order from Hegseth. Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers have confirmed Bradley’s account, saying there was no such directive.

MacGregor and his sidekick are the supporting cast for the trifecta trolls, charged with rapid and immediate distribution of dishonest propaganda while it is still topical.

I sincerely apologize for promising to review and to point out all the false statements and outright lies in this video. Honestly, it feels petty and childish to do so, but I feel compelled to do it because I told you I would follow up. As I rewatch it, I realize that no matter what I say, it probably won’t make much difference because it’s clear you want Trump to fail, and you want to believe he’s guilty of this so-called "illegal military order” crime. No amount of factual information or congressional testimony will likely change your mind.

A list of obvious lies

• First off, the title of this video is untruthful, Former disc jockey turned psycho killer, obviously fake, emotionally charged clickbait, but it was funny
• Admiral Bradley testified he was not thrown under the bus or the ship.
• Admiral Bradley testified that these were not fishing boats but drug boats belonging to the cartels.
• Admiral Bradley testified that these were not fishermen; these were designated terrorists going 45 mph in the open seas on a go-fast boat full of drugs.
• Admiral Bradley testified he was not given a "kill them all" order
• According to five U.S. officials at the hearings, the follow-up strikes that killed survivors were authorized by Admiral Bradley, not Hegseth
• The orders to fire on the drug boat a second time have not been challenged in court. Saying they were "illegal" orders is a lie
• Hegseth never said he had watched the entire video
• There was no "Presidential kill order" per se

The only honest portion of the video happened at the very end when MacGregor said he did not have all the facts. I got another smile when MacGregor used the dead fish metaphor because it is so very accurate for journalism. I understand the short, shocking videos are ideal for scandal-style journalism. They are easy to personalize and emotionally charged, perfect for clickbait or lazy journalism. This is the kind of journalism that sadly allows the thousands of deaths simultaneously happening in other parts of the world to be framed as background noise.

I'll just provide a few brief points here, because that discussion has already gone in so many circular repeats in another thread.

1- That short clip above ended with Doug McGregor stating that the particular situation warranted further investigation since there are contradictory testimonies on that particular situation. That sounds quite rational and fair.

2- It's a critically important topic. It's about the MURDER of civilians in international waters. We need to get at the bottom of this.

3- About your above comment "it’s clear you want Trump to fail, and you want to believe he’s guilty of this so-called "illegal military order” crime". I've never wanted Trump to fail, on the contrary, I very much wanted Trump to deliver on his campaign promises of 'america first', and 'no more foreign wars'.

What is it with some of you Trump fans that you cannot countenance any criticism of Trump, and you cannot face the reality that many of Trump's decisions have been horribly detrimental to international (and USA's) peace & security. It's like a cult. Your 'dear leader' doesn't allow any question or the slightest departure from his dictates? Or else you end up like Charlie Kirk?

Finally, we're talking about the USA bombing of civilian boats in international waters, far from USA's coastal waters. This is MURDER, and if that's not horrible enough for you, then please excuse me if I feel sick and disgusted at all this completely unnecessary violence. You don't need to blame the Washington Post or the New York Time, I never look at them. Everybody on planet earth who's been following geopolitics for the past 10 years can very well see that the 'drug boats' claim is just an excuse to provoke Venezuela to war. So far Venezuela has been very restrained in its response. But now Trump is threatening land strikes in Venezuela. Who needs WW3? A collapsing deep-into-debt empire.

[Mike]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
I'll just provide a few brief points here, because that discussion has already gone in so many circular repeats in another thread.

1- That short clip above ended with Doug McGregor stating that the particular situation warranted further investigation since there are contradictory testimonies on that particular situation. That sounds quite rational and fair.

2- It's a critically important topic. It's about the MURDER of civilians in international waters. We need to get at the bottom of this.

3- About your above comment "it’s clear you want Trump to fail, and you want to believe he’s guilty of this so-called "illegal military order” crime". I've never wanted Trump to fail, on the contrary, I very much wanted Trump to deliver on his campaign promises of 'america first', and 'no more foreign wars'.

What is it with some of you Trump fans that you cannot countenance any criticism of Trump, and you cannot face the reality that many of Trump's decisions have been horribly detrimental to international (and USA's) peace & security. It's like a cult. Your 'dear leader' doesn't allow any question or the slightest departure from his dictates? Or else you end up like Charlie Kirk?

Finally, we're talking about the USA bombing of civilian boats in international waters, far from USA's coastal waters. This is MURDER, and if that's not horrible enough for you, then please excuse me if I feel sick and disgusted at all this completely unnecessary violence. You don't need to blame the Washington Post or the New York Time, I never look at them. Everybody on planet earth who's been following geopolitics for the past 10 years can very well see that the 'drug boats' claim is just an excuse to provoke Venezuela to war. So far Venezuela has been very restrained in its response. But now Trump is threatening land strikes in Venezuela. Who needs WW3? A collapsing deep-into-debt empire.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WVn-JEIrVBE

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
What is it with some of you Trump fans that you cannot countenance any criticism of Trump

Please don't confuse broad scope criticism of Trump's actions, that refuses to consider possible justifying counter evidence, with honest discussion. Please don't respond to honest efforts to analyze events with insults.

Murder of the crews of a few drug running boats might well be justified, to stop the destruction of a nation that is one of the few nations able to stop the enslavement of humanity by the Luciferian globalist evil bastards.

If I saw a mad man killing you and your family in cold blood, and I shot the mad man dead instead, would you condemn my act as murder?

If you are unwilling to consider the reasons and evidence why the U.S. Venezuelan might be justified, then you do not appear to be engaging in discussion, but in divisive dissent.

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
As for who thinks what right now ... that remains to be seen and understood.

I am starting to see and understand.

[Rizotto]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Rizotto (here)
What is it with some of you Trump fans that you cannot countenance any criticism of Trump

Please don't confuse broad scope criticism of Trump's actions, that refuses to consider possible justifying counter evidence, with honest discussion. Please don't respond to honest efforts to analyze events with insults.

Murder of the crews of a few drug running boats might well be justified, to stop the destruction of a nation that is one of the few nations able to stop the enslavement of humanity by the Luciferian globalist evil bastards.

If I saw a mad man killing you and your family in cold blood, and I shot the mad man dead instead, would you condemn my act as murder?

If you are unwilling to consider the reasons and evidence why the U.S. Venezuelan might be justified, then you do not appear to be engaging in discussion, but in divisive dissent.

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
As for who thinks what right now ... that remains to be seen and understood.

I am starting to see and understand.

Once again, a circular argument. Because absolutely no evidence has been produced by the Trump administration that these boats were smuggling drugs to USA. We're supposed to believe Trump at his word? That doesn't work for the rest of the world, or for international law.

Many online experts have pointed out that these small boats would require multiple stops to refuel before they ever could reach USA shores. So, it was physically impossible for them to do what Trump accused them of.

The accusation of "narco-terrorism" is a convenient invention to dehumanize these people. It's easier to obliterate people if you decide they're sub-humans.

Here' a video where Col Doug McGregor describes a recent drug bust in USA territory (nothing to do with Venezuela), adding that the way to go is to clean up USA from the inside.

Col Doug Macgregor: Pres Trump "Call This Thing Off w/Venezuela"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q5hAXyakGbs

In this

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Once again, a circular argument. Because absolutely no evidence has been produced by the Trump administration that these boats were smuggling drugs to USA. We're supposed to believe Trump at his word? That doesn't work for the rest of the world, or for international law.

You are not the spokesman for the rest of the world, and we here in this discussion are not in any way the legal judge or jury under any international law for any such acts.

I do not expect any nation to provide the public with much of the evidence that determines how they conduct war. War is a dirty, nefarious, clandestine, murderous, business.

Some apparently informed insiders have reported to us what they know, have seen or have been told. These reports do provide a more complete understanding of the claimed motivation for such actions. Some of these reports have been recently linked somewhere in at least one of these discussions here on Avalon. I will readily grant that such reports are no more than here say in a court of law, but this discussion on Avalon is no such court. However I doubt you find those reports to be worth considering here.

My primary focus at present:

This is a long running war on several (mostly non-conventional) fronts between (1) whomever are the evil bastard globalists who would enslave us,, and (2) humanity. The depth, breadth, and duration of this war is far greater than we will see in the globalist controlled education and news media sources.

Let us work together to understand the threat and support each other, rather than disputing those trying to expose the threat.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Here' a video where Col Doug McGregor describes a recent drug bust in USA territory (nothing to do with Venezuela), adding that the way to go is to clean up USA from the inside.

In my view, Col Doug McGregor first reduces the threat to just a narco threat (as has Trump, recently), and then makes the illogical conclusion that because (1) action A responds in some way to that threat, therefore (2) no other kind of actions is needed.

[Ravenlocke]

Megatron

BREAKING:

🇺🇲🇻🇪 US forces have just SEIZED a Venezuelan oil tanker - Bloomberg

They are trying now to destroy Venezuela's oil exports

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1998834266323796078

[Ravenlocke]

Visioner

‼️‼️🇺🇸🇻🇪 BREAKING - U.S. forces have intercepted and seized a sanctioned oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, according to Bloomberg.

See the latest updates with us:
@visionergeo

https://x.com/visionergeo/status/1998829865936761103

[Rizotto]

Posted by ThePythonicCow;

My primary focus at present:
[INDENT

This is a long running war on several (mostly non-conventional) fronts between (1) whomever are the evil bastard globalists who would enslave us,, and (2) humanity. The depth, breadth, and duration of this war is far greater than we will see in the globalist controlled education and news media sources.

[/INDENT]Let us work together to understand the threat and support each other, rather than disputing those trying to expose the threat.

Perspective needed for understanding what's really going on: why the repeated diversion about the 'globalists' being the problem, when in fact it is the zionists that have thoroughly infiltrated the USA political arena to the core, as well as media, the CIA and other law enforcement agencies. We all know that most USA politicians have accepted AIPAC bribes, and do Israel's bidding.

Facts on the ground show that Trump is treating Canada much as he does Venezuela. Trump made direct threats and accusations against Canada, similar to what he's doing against Venezuela right now, i.e. drug trade, annexation of Canada, and deliberate destruction of Canada's economy. It's a fact, Trump actually said those things.

The USA is now murdering Venezuelans in small boats at sea, and confiscating their oil cargo ships to destroy Venezuela's economy (or whatever economy is left after all those years of unwarranted sanctions). Trump also wants to annex Greenland and other countries. Trump also attacked Iran just a few months ago, and is participating in Israel's attacks on Syria and Lebanon, and genocide of Palestinians. It's clear that Trump is a puppet of the zionist mafia, and he has to obey their orders, or else. Israel controls the great majority of USA politicians. There's no way Trump would instigate these attacks against Venezuela without zionist approval. It's a fact that most wars and current colonial land thefts trace back to zionists' ambitions, even directly to Israel. It could be argued that the cabal that's operating 'globalism' is also using 'zionism'. Same tools are used, same results are achieved. Looks very much like 'zionists' and 'globalists' are interchangeable words.

Even a quick internet search will show zionist connections to USA attacks on Venezuela. Just a couple of headlines, among many others:

Global Zionism behind Venezuela coup attempt: Maduro to Al Mayadeen
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/...t--maduro-to-a

MARÍA CORINA MACHADO: GILDED PROXY FOR IMPERIALISM AND ZIONISM
https://katehon.com/en/article/maria...sm-and-zionism

It is very concerning that there still are too many USA citizens who support Trump's takeover agenda run by zionists/globalists.
The 'bomb Venezuela' cheerios would just as soon celebrate future USA's missile strikes on Canada, mindlessly repeating whatever pretext of the day that the Trump camp has devised. Cult mentality is dangerous.

(To be clear, I abhor the current Carney regime that pretends to govern Canada. They're destroying Canada on many fronts. It is highly doubtful that they truly won the last elections, as there were many unusual reports across the country of messed up ballots. Carney's Liberals have strong connections to zionist donors. Keep in mind that Trump himself said, during Canada's recent electoral race, that he preferred Carney to win over the other candidates. Go figure...)

[Ravenlocke]

DD Geopolitics

🇺🇸🇻🇪🇮🇷 BREAKING: The United States just carried out a full military seizure of an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, and Washington is now claiming the vessel was linked to Iran’s IRGC and Hezbollah.

Attorney General Pam Bondi says the FBI, Homeland Security Investigations, the Coast Guard, and the Department of War executed a federal seizure warrant on the Guyana-flagged M/T SKIPPER, a tanker long under U.S. Treasury sanctions.

At 6:00 a.m., two MH-60 Seahawks dropped U.S. Special Forces onto the ship, along with 10 Marines and 10 Coast Guard personnel.
The takeover was described as “safe,” but the legal justification is already under scrutiny.

When Iran seized a tanker in international waters last year, CENTCOM called it a “blatant violation of international law” that “undermines freedom of navigation and free commerce.”
(Their own press release literally says this.)

Yet today, U.S. forces boarded a sanctioned tanker in the Caribbean near Venezuelan territorial waters, using heliborne special operators to enforce unilateral U.S. sanctions that neither Venezuela nor the region recognizes.

If Iran does it: “Illegal seizure in international waters.”

If the United States does it: “A successful law-enforcement operation.”

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1998897812277547502