The Muslim Problem

[Mike]

In light of this Bondi massacre in Australia, where 2 Muslim men killed at least 15 Jews at a Hanukkah event(one of them a Holocaust survivor), this thread seems long overdue.

The MSM narrative re this event is doing its best to avoid the real issue here (Islam) and instead is redirecting everyone to gun control narratives, or the Muslim hero who saved the day, or in the case of the alt media - false flags.

As Gad Saad points out in the video below, nothing ever done in the name of Islam that's bad is ever "true Islam" in the eyes of the MSM or anyone heavily invested in the Jews = bad/Muslims = good and noble narrative.

Even in this event, the Muslim hero who tackled the gunmen is "true Islam", not the 2 shooters. And to highlight this fact is "Islamophobic".

Other examples:
- ISIS is not true Islam

- Hamas is not true Islam

- the 48,000 terror attacks in 70 countries since 2011 are not true Islam

- the Islamic terror groups that make up the majority of all gov't terror group lists are not true Islam

- the several hundred thousand Brit white girls who were systematically gang raped by Pakistani Muslims over the past 30 years doesn't represent true Islam

- the slaughtering of 50,000-100,000 Christians in Nigeria by Muslims isn't true Islam

- 1400 years of subjugation, rape, and destruction of endless cultures is not true Islam

- Oct 7 is not true Islam

- the endless problems associated with the "soft" invasion of the west by Muslim immigration is not true Islam

etc etc etc

We in the west have been conditioned (brainwashed) to defend this culture that openly calls for our destruction. We have been programmed to walk like docile lambs to slaughter, only showing emotion occasionally to root for and defend our enemies...all so we can signal our virtue to the world and refrain from being "divisive".

Saad makes an interesting point: there are 2 billion Muslims in the world, which is roughly 1/4 of all humanity. If we very conservatively assume that 1% of Muslims are the jihadist murdering types, that's 20 million jihadist murdering types...which is about 5 million more people than all the Jews in existence. That's worth pondering a moment.

But this goes way beyond just Jews and extends to the entire west as a whole. And this is the crucial part: if we choose to remain willfully ignorant of what's right in front of our faces, the west will fall. And the world will be a very very dark place.

20 mins:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lPxgIDBnqKs

[edina]

I once considered Islam as a "religion", in the way most people I know tend to consider religion. This was mostly back in my 20's, 30's and 40's. I've read many comparative religion books, and personally am extra-ordinarily tolerant of allowing people to approach their spiritual life in ways that are meaningful to them.

That said, I also had cultural experiences that even in my 20's raised red flags, especially about how women are treated in the Islamist cultures. For example, while in Basic Training (Air Force) we women were instructed to stay away from the Saudi dorms, because the Saudi raping women problem. When a female airman was deployed in the region they were instructed to never make eye contact with a man, to stand when a man entered the room, to wear the black veil when off base, and to always have a man travel with them for their own protection.

Obviously, as a woman, I would never want to be treated the way women are treated in those cultures. I wouldn't want daughters, sisters, or mothers, to be treated in those ways.

Later, as I became increasingly concerned with the behaviors happening within the Islamist cultures, I started looking a little more deeply into the religion. Gradually, I realized that the concept of separation of religion and state (politics) that is standard thinking here in the US, is not the case in Islamist cultures. Some people will describe it as political Islam to make this distinction. But that still gives an intellectual separation, that as far as I can tell, doesn't actually exist in the minds of the people of the Islamist cultures.

So, there's culture, there's religion, there's politics. There's historical context. And something that doesn't get mentioned much, the tribal nature of the jihadists cultures. The thinking of the peoples living in that way is very different than how westerners think.

Years ago, when Atticus was here as Charles. He mentioned often of how "they", meaning the people who he once worked for, wanted technological feudalism. Nowadays, you can hear Katherine Austin Fitts mention this, as well.

It's my opinion that Sharia Law is the means by which feudalism takes hold. To understand Islam, one must be willing to also give serious consideration to the role of the vision for a global Islam Caliphate drives many people within the culture and how the introduction of Sharia Law into communities plays into that.

There's a lot of moving parts to this.

I've been looking more closely at the information that Sarah Adams has been sharing in terms of the Homeland Terrorist plans, processing that more, and considering how I may want to act on that information. If I talk about that here in the forum it'll be in the Sarah Adams thread. More and more, I think it's important to learn how to think like the jihadists think.

I do think there is a distinction between a person of a western mindset who self-identifies as a muslim, and a person who self-identifies as jihadist.

One more aspect of this topic that I consider, is who is behind it all, the funding, the energetic impetus, I suspect there is more that doesn't get looked at while people are looking at the more surface level of concerns.

[shaberon]

Posted by Mike (here)
And this is the crucial part: if we choose to remain willfully ignorant of what's right in front of our faces, the west will fall. And the world will be a very very dark place.

Why would a few dead Jews gain sympathy?

My initial response is to consider everything Abrahamic as a threat.

I don't consider myself part of a brainwashed "we" that is conditioned to anything.

Nor ignorant; Islam is the fastest growing religion, the other Abrahamists are not.

I don't really see it as "taking over" India or China, and my practices are spreading in Muslim-majority countries such as Malaysia and Indonesia. This may be a western survival problem rather than an existential Islamic one.

On the other hand, I'm sure I grew up amongst a "culture" that openly called for the destruction of, from what I recall, everything Communist and Islamic. They told me this many times. I've never actually heard something like "We could get rid of Brazil tomorrow", but everyone in the aforementioned places is to be nuked or otherwise wiped out.

I might agree there's a problem, a very contentious one that goes both ways. The political meaning of destruction as used by Iran is about regimes, not populations. The idea of people around the globe actually caring about what goes on in the North American continent is limited to that. The notion that a Pakistani jihadi camp -- of which there are several kinds -- marches in an annihilates Los Angeles or something, seems farfetched.


The house, Saudi, is itself the fact that originally, the Arabs understood they would keep Palestine from the former Ottoman Empire until:

Following the publication of the November 1917 Balfour Declaration (a letter written by British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild, a wealthy and prominent leader in the British Jewish community), which promised a national home for the Jews in Palestine, and the subsequent leaking of the secret 1916 Sykes–Picot Agreement in which Britain and France proposed to split and occupy parts of the territory, the Sharif and other Arab leaders considered the agreements made in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence to have been violated. Hussein refused to ratify the 1919 Treaty of Versailles and, in response to a 1921 British proposal to sign a treaty accepting the Mandate system, stated that he could not be expected to "affix his name to a document assigning Palestine to the Zionists and Syria to foreigners". A further British attempt to reach a treaty failed in 1923–24, with negotiations suspended in March 1924; within six months, the British withdrew their support in favour of their central Arabian ally Ibn Saud, who proceeded to conquer Hussein's kingdom.

The Turks were happy because Kurds were denied a state.

Arabs saw it as the failure to keep a British promise in the McMahon–Hussein correspondence with Hussein bin Ali, King of Hejaz regarding a national Arab homeland in exchange for supporting the British against the Ottoman Empire. The British later claimed that Palestine was meant to be excluded from the area of Arab rule, as it is technically located west of Damascus: for obvious reasons the Zionists took the same position. The Arabs interpreted the letter as it reads: Lebanon, not Palestine, is to the west of Damascus and the other areas mentioned.

Bait and switch.

The Saudis are not a particularly good regime, and the Turkish culture is particularly warlike, having battled its way out of Central Asia from pre-Islamic times.

However I'm seeing a kind of Crusader mentality, and so far I've been told that "we" means people in an area. Therefor, I have difficulty seeing this in such a hermetically-sealed polarity, while it is very easy to understand the resentment generated from Sykes-Picot and the further machinations that my regime does.



Here is a perhaps surprising view of how other might see Muslims:

Baran Jani of Iran claimed a gold medal at the 2025 Asian Youth Games (AYG) on Sunday.

Jani edged Natthida Kanyaburi of Thailand 29-28 in the final of the Girls' -40Kg Combat Discipline 14-15, Tehran Times reported on Sunday.

The 3rd Asian Youth Games takes place in Bahrain from Oct. 22 to 31, according to Tehran Times.

The Games serve as qualifiers for the 2026 Youth Olympic Games in Dakar.

Iran has sent 236 athletes to the Games, the report added.

She beat a Thai girl at her own national pastime, Muay Thai.

Thailand is perhaps immune to threats against the west?

[DNA]

In order of severity in terms of problems...
Israel and it's confidants pose a much larger problem.

I don't even believe this shooting is organic.
Those in the circle of the know have been expecting a Jewish version victim tragedy fresh false flag for months now .

All your complaints about Islam...
Come from deep state placement of refugees into Western countries.
Be mad at the practitioners of Islam all you want.
It's the story of the scorpion and the frog.
The placement of pieces on the chess board is not organic.
One should correctly focus their ire in the direction of those who placed those pieces where they sit.

The beginning of the deep state goes back to 1914.
Now who would that be?

[lunaflare]

Well expressed, Mike. Thank you. The threats posed by radical Islam are brushed under the dirty rug. Charlie Kirk was one of the few voices highlighting the decline of the West due to radicalized Muslims. Pauline Hanson, an Australian Senator from the One Nation Party, has been talking about the dangers of mass immigration (and Muslims) for decades, emphasizing the idea of infiltration rather than assimilation. She has been ridiculed and slandered by the mainstream media for decades...

[Mike]

Posted by shaberon (here)
Why would a few dead Jews gain sympathy?

I've been misinformed I guess. I thought Buddhists were all about compassion and sh!t. Why wouldn't a few dead Jews (or anybody for that matter) gain sympathy after being murdered by a couple gun toting lunatics? If your answer is going to run for 20 paragraphs and begin with the phrase "Back in 17th century BCE..." don't bother lol. But if you have something reasonably succinct and human to offer, I'm all ears...though I can't imagine what that might be after reading that statement there.

It's a mistake to lump Islam with Judaism and Christianity. Yes they are all Abrahamic but only 2 of those religions are western (Christianity and Judaism). And only one is both political and proselytizing (Islam). Actually I would argue that Islam is every bit a political movement as it is a religion. Also, Christianity and Judaism exist in almost exclusively free and democratic countries, while Islam exists in exclusively authoritarian countries. That's not a coincidence. Apples and oranges.

You're right, Islam isn't taking over China or India. It's taking over the west first by design. Globalists will naturally begin by destroying countries that value their freedom and personal liberties; countries that have willfully forfeited their personal liberties have already done all their work for them.

Atm Islam is infecting the west thru ideological subversion, not jihadi attacks. But just wait. When the time is ripe, that'll come too.

[Mike]

Posted by DNA (here)
In order of severity in terms of problems...
Israel and it's confidants pose a much larger problem.

I don't even believe this shooting is organic.
Those in the circle of the know have been expecting a Jewish version victim tragedy fresh false flag for months now .

All your complaints about Islam...
Come from deep state placement of refugees into Western countries.
Be mad at the practitioners of Islam all you want.
It's the story of the scorpion and the frog.
The placement of pieces on the chess board is not organic.
One should correctly focus their ire in the direction of those who placed those pieces where they sit.

The beginning of the deep state goes back to 1914.
Now who would that be?

Hey Marcus, You're right of course - it's definitely not organic. And yes, it's a deep state/globalist effort. But I just think there's far more utility in identifying the symptoms of the deep state than attempting to chase ghosts thru a labyrinth of hypotheticals. Who are the deep state exactly? Name them for me. Good luck with that

We may not know their names exactly but we can identify what they're doing and reverse engineer it. The placement of the pieces on the board is not organic, true, which is exactly why we need to identify the pieces and prevent them from flourishing.

This deluge of Muslim immigrants is the main weapon tearing down the west. No one should still be in denial about that.

The deep state has a million tentacles in a million different pies. Yes we know about Soros and Gates and all the 3 letter agencies, and the elements in the military and FBI/CIA and the WEF so on and so forth, but all these people/entities operate in the shadows. This Muslim problem is right out in the open.. and if it's not given the proper attention it will be our undoing.

[Mike]

Posted by lunaflare (here)
Well expressed, Mike. Thank you. The threats posed by radical Islam are brushed under the dirty rug. Charlie Kirk was one of the few voices highlighting the decline of the West due to radicalized Muslims. Pauline Hanson, an Australian Senator from the One Nation Party, has been talking about the dangers of mass immigration (and Muslims) for decades, emphasizing the idea of infiltration rather than assimilation. She has been ridiculed and slandered by the mainstream media for decades...

Pauline Hansen - thanks for the name!

[Mike]

Posted by edina (here)
I once considered Islam as a "religion", in the way most people I know tend to consider religion. This was mostly back in my 20's, 30's and 40's. I've read many comparative religion books, and personally am extra-ordinarily tolerant of allowing people to approach their spiritual life in ways that are meaningful to them.

That said, I also had cultural experiences that even in my 20's raised red flags, especially about how women are treated in the Islamist cultures. For example, while in Basic Training (Air Force) we women were instructed to stay away from the Saudi dorms, because the Saudi raping women problem. When a female airman was deployed in the region they were instructed to never make eye contact with a man, to stand when a man entered the room, to wear the black veil when off base, and to always have a man travel with them for their own protection.

Obviously, as a woman, I would never want to be treated the way women are treated in those cultures. I wouldn't want daughters, sisters, or mothers, to be treated in those ways.

Later, as I became increasingly concerned with the behaviors happening within the Islamist cultures, I started looking a little more deeply into the religion. Gradually, I realized that the concept of separation of religion and state (politics) that is standard thinking here in the US, is not the case in Islamist cultures. Some people will describe it as political Islam to make this distinction. But that still gives an intellectual separation, that as far as I can tell, doesn't actually exist in the minds of the people of the Islamist cultures.

So, there's culture, there's religion, there's politics. There's historical context. And something that doesn't get mentioned much, the tribal nature of the jihadists cultures. The thinking of the peoples living in that way is very different than how westerners think.

Years ago, when Atticus was here as Charles. He mentioned often of how "they", meaning the people who he once worked for, wanted technological feudalism. Nowadays, you can hear Katherine Austin Fitts mention this, as well.

It's my opinion that Sharia Law is the means by which feudalism takes hold. To understand Islam, one must be willing to also give serious consideration to the role of the vision for a global Islam Caliphate drives many people within the culture and how the introduction of Sharia Law into communities plays into that.

There's a lot of moving parts to this.

I've been looking more closely at the information that Sarah Adams has been sharing in terms of the Homeland Terrorist plans, processing that more, and considering how I may want to act on that information. If I talk about that here in the forum it'll be in the Sarah Adams thread. More and more, I think it's important to learn how to think like the jihadists think.

I do think there is a distinction between a person of a western mindset who self-identifies as a muslim, and a person who self-identifies as jihadist.

One more aspect of this topic that I consider, is who is behind it all, the funding, the energetic impetus, I suspect there is more that doesn't get looked at while people are looking at the more surface level of concerns.

That's all beautifully articulated Edina.

I was thinking about the 'moral relativity' thread as I read along, and all the people who make excuses for cultural abominations er "differences" using cultural relativism as an excuse.

Everyone can agree that rape is evil. And any culture/religion that has normalized it should be kept at a great distance, and be monitored closely (and not brought in in great numbers to countries with an entirely different value set)

[Ernie Nemeth]

More and more, the underlying vehemence is percolating to the surface.

These are our countries, and that's okay. It is the okay part that we have forgotten.

And we forget why we needed borders around us in the first place. It is for protection, both for life and for our culture. That is also very right and completely okay as well.


Here's the catch. There will never be a one world government on this planet so long as we are forced into it because we are not of one tribe or belief and so the assimilation of our world must be organic and desired by a vast majority. As has been pointed out, that is not what is happening in today's world. If this is forced on us it can only go one way, toward a dictatorial regime within a surveillance state.

Our mistake, here in the west, is that we thought freedom of religion is not a threat to our "very free" way of life. But, of course, our entire society has been built upon the tenets of Christianity and a disruption to the fundamentals of our culture has caused an existential, but nonetheless very real, crisis. The allure of a secular society has eroded our principles and we find ourselves swirling around the drain of "mediocrity" in the name of universal equity and inclusion.

We are lost in our Liberalism, unable to find our equilibrium or our equanimity.
And we have been led astray by our own hubris.

Like the trans movement has shown us, it's okay to be different.
Same goes for the west as a whole - we are allowed to decide who can stay and who must leave.
It's okay.
Be proud.
Be principled.
'Cause if we don't, we will cease "to be" at all.

[edina]

Posted by edina (here)
Years ago, when Atticus was here as Charles. He mentioned often of how "they", meaning the people who he once worked for, wanted technological feudalism. Nowadays, you can hear Katherine Austin Fitts mention this, as well.

It's my opinion that Sharia Law is the means by which feudalism takes hold. To understand Islam, one must be willing to also give serious consideration to the role of the vision for a global Islam Caliphate drives many people within the culture and how the introduction of Sharia Law into communities plays into that.

In thinking about what I wrote here, the bolded bit above, I'd like to self-correct a bit, or maybe clarify. In terms of who "they" were, that wanted "technological fiefdom, or feudalism". It may not have been the people Stephen/Atticus/Charles was associated with, but rather, descendants of a lineage that the people he was associated with may have been trying to counterbalance. Is that an accurate term? Counterbalance.

I remember as a kid, a young adult, and even now, in my sixties, feeling frustrated with the use of the word "they" when it wasn't clear who "they" were being referred to.

Anyway, someone of some faction, operating at levels we can hardly imagine, seemed to have a keen interest in this outcome.

When Sarah Adams talks about the Homeland Terrorist plot, she sometimes mentions some elements of this have been in planning since the 90's. I think this can be a bit surprising to people.

Later, in the Sarah Adams thread, I will share the intro to one of the books I'm reading by Jesse Petrilla, "If It Takes A Thousand Years". There is a patient, long-term planning involved in this vision for a global Islam Caliphate. It could come from the sense of time, or rather timelessness, as described in the book, or from an entity, group, or force that has a long view of time?

This is probably off-topic, but I wanted to clarify my meaning.

[Agape]

There's one item in the lexicon of messed phraseology of today's politicians that should be acknowledged and straightened once for all,
so called "anti-semitism" includes all people of "dessert ancestry" , that is both Jews, Arabs, Assyrians, Babylonians, Jordans, Yemenis, and so forth so "the problem" they're facing is the same.

It's not a "religious problem" as many today's western scholars claim and it's never been a religious problem.

The teachings of "Old Testament" ( known as Pentateuch , dating back to Moses and "beginning of race" called Adamites ) and teachings of Koran and Prophet Muhamad who clearly stated he is the "last prophet"( in the transmission line dating to Abraham/Ibrahim ) are the SAME.

Teachings of Christ who is considered "one of the prophets" in line, preceding Muhammad are consistent with teachings of Quran.

All 3 religions are monotheistic and egalitarian in their origin.

False information regarding the teachings of Quran while very few people ever cared to read the Book is fed to the semi-literate populace out there who could not be so "tortured"
in order to read "the Book" as a whole ,
with meaning.

This concerns most scriptures available , prevalent, commonly accepted as "source of religious law" in the world,
including the Bible ( both Old and the New Testament) , the Quran , the Vedas ( extremely extensive collection of scriptures ) and the Tripitaka ( Buddhist Cannon - extremely extensive ) ,

very few people has bothered self with reading it from the beginning to the end.

Most people instead call themselves "just a sheepling" who needs "to be read into faith", provided guidance by pastor or pastoral lineage who could read - long ago - and some chewed through most of it, some memorized the "whole book" ,
while some used simple, naive scriptural quotes to manipulated human society and DISCOURAGED generations of humans from study especially self study ,
( psychological terror imposed on most religious folks on earth by their own leaders ordering them "not to read the scripture" alone because "they won't understand" )

much of "the problem" can be dissolved once they allow people to their Books,
men and women .

Most "religions" practice gender prejudice and discrimination towards women ,
with exception of few ,

Orthodox Jewish communities , Orthodox Christians and Orthodox Muslims practice very similarly ,
they're extremely protective of their women" and their "families"
which makes them apart from "everyone else".

But once innocent lives have been taken there is no "religion" in sight in my opinion,
such as in Israel recruiting or trying to recruit Yeshiva students straight from school and order them "to participate in the war" despite their entirely peaceful and dedicated predicament ,

such as any act of terrorism against others based on their "ethnicity", presumed or confirmed genealogy , the old smelly ... racism ... whomever it concerns,

"the less advanced people"?

"The 3rd world country people" who don't look right 👍 People "in robes". People "in colorful robes" , "talking in tongues".


For any truly educated spiritually connected entity even if not overly "religious by participation" the whole discussion "stops yielding" any intelligence hence on.

Of "Chosen People" , the "righteous" and so forth ... it all,
above and below is advanced metaphor that the human collective just started to read into.

It may surely take another thousand years and I'm not joking before they read it all well.


Their "anti-semitism" is just another misterm for "homophobia" , especially "white homophobia against everyone else not looking the same "brainwashed" as "we are"".

The Neo-Nazi "white brotherhood" hates all of us equally ,
they're just playing with terms in order to help people unravel their presumed characteristics and literally take it on each other.

The "white brotherhood" in self-defence distributing "awards" of "pride and prejudice" to the tribes they have visited , in search of ancestral super race ,
fueling eternal racial war.

May Peace Prevail

🕊️🕊️🕊️

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JywlrimJq7k

Just started watching...

[DNA]

Yep!

[Rizotto]

- Look up "Solving 9/11" by Christopher Bollyn

- Epstein's trafficked american kids to blackmail powerful men on behalf of Israel.

- ISIS Is a US-Israeli Creation. Top Ten “Indications” - https://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-i...ations/5518627

[s7e6e]

Although I do not encourage war, I understand it. Men against men, fighting for what they stand for, even if the reasons get distorted in time.
But shooting innocent people, is despicable. And that's what happens when we import terrorists and allow these animals to thrive.

[Agape]

For sure , some people can hold themselves better than other people. These days both men n women serve in army and perform with excellence.

The purpose of fight is not "to fight" but to eliminate the source of danger.

Untill we learn the logic of positive manifestation , the logic of happiness ,
we - concerns multitudes - will be just drones , slaves to somebody , victims .

The Ocean of human suffering, as I've seen even through last decades of life is bottomless .

Priests and teachers of every faith should actively try to reach over to each other and work together for Salvation of Humanity instead playing "it's only about us" game and "my views and my language are so much more evolved , more ancient ,etc.".

They should actively try and follow the Enlightened Examples Among Them who held the highest regards of both the Truth and the People,
were loved and respected by people of all faiths equally.

Who on Earth will make this Step for you , for Humanity,

"the man on the Moon?"

"The agnostic crowd who has abandoned God for Image of a Human hanging on the wall,
his or her "young God" ,
hanging on cross ,
I take you down Jesus.



🪷🙏🥀

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7UFmwArST-I

I am so sorry.

[rgray222]

There is something uniquely problematic with the muslims; they have developed a pattern of terrorism unparalleled in modern times. Groups claiming to represent Islamic values have been responsible for the most terrorist attacks in the past 40 years, not only in the Middle East but globally. There is no denying that Islamic religious extremism has become the dominant form of terrorism worldwide. Couple that fact with poorly thought-out muslim immigration in both Europe and the USA, and you end up with fatal consequences.

To make matters worse, Muslims are generally the least likely to assimilate into the host country. They actively attempt to influence and radically change the cultural and social values of their new countries. There have been cases where they have successfully introduced aspects of Sharia law in countries like the UK and Canada. If immigrants are unwilling to abide by the laws of the host country, they should not be accepted as immigrants in the first place.

Many people do not recognize the issues related to Muslim terrorism and immigration as the greatest challenge facing the West. Some mistakenly believe that Israel is the primary problem. They feel they can overlook concerns about Muslims, believing they are fighting the same enemy. This misconception causes them to ignore the larger Muslim terrorism and immigration issues. Even if Israel were to be dissolved as a country, the problems caused by Muslim terrorism and immigration would not disappear; in fact, it would become even more severe.

To understand the problem, people in the West need to overcome their fear of being labelled racist or Islamophobic by simply speaking the truth. By the time people get over their unfounded fears and anxieties, they will find out that their countries have changed to the point that they no longer represent the same strong family, religious or cultural values that they so loved in the first place.

[Losus4]

Nature has a way of correcting itself. When a people or nation become weak (as white/Europeans have across the globe due to feminisation) a challenge or existential threat will arise to try to correct that imbalance. Since Europeans have lost the will and ability to fight, nature has engineered circumstances that will force us to learn to fight again. That threat is multiculturalism. We are being tested. We fight or we become extinct. It's that simple. All species must maintain an ability to fight for its own survival. If it loses that instinct then nature neither wants nor needs that species. Europeans have made the mistake of believing that being civilised is to be "above" fighting; that fighting is what primitive people do. Mistaking weakness for being enlightened is the crux of our problem. The best thing we as individuals can do is work daily to improve our health and fitness. A warrior's body is a warrior's mind.

[Mike]

Posted by Losus4 (here)
Nature has a way of correcting itself. When a people or nation become weak (as white/Europeans have across the globe due to feminisation) a challenge or existential threat will arise to try to correct that imbalance. Since Europeans have lost the will and ability to fight, nature has engineered circumstances that will force us to learn to fight again. That threat is multiculturalism. We are being tested. We fight or we become extinct. It's that simple. All species must maintain an ability to fight for its own survival. If it loses that instinct then nature neither wants nor needs that species. Europeans have made the mistake of believing that being civilised is to be "above" fighting; that fighting is what primitive people do. Mistaking weakness for being enlightened is the crux of our problem. The best thing we as individuals can do is work daily to improve our health and fitness. A warrior's body is a warrior's mind.

That was f'in perfect Losus4. Thanks for that.

One spiritual attribute we all tend to neglect is an ability to fight. An unwillingness to fight is often mistaken for some kind of advanced mentality but it's usually just apathy at best and cowardice at worst.

I think even God himself will lose respect for you if you're unwilling to defend yourself when blatantly attacked. Fighting is every bit a spiritual act when justified as feeding the homeless, or comforting someone after the loss of a loved one.

Spiritual people must be warriors, and if you're sitting at home and doing nothing about the invasion of your country, all while convincing yourself it's the right thing to do, you deserve to lose it.

In the immortal words of President Trump after he was shot, "FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!"

[edina]

Speaking of fighting, here's a speech by a Swedish parlementarian, Denice Westerberg. It's in Swedish, which I find fascinating to listen to, with English subtitles.

‘Islam Has No Place in Sweden’: Denice Westerberg Issues Historic Call to End Migration and Dismantle Extremist Mosques

You'll have to go to the actual site to watch the video of her speech. I tried to find the rumble video used in the article to link it directly here, but couldn't. I could link the youtube version but it doesn't have english subtitles.

short snippet of the article:

In one of the most consequential speeches in modern Swedish politics, Denice Westerberg exposed how mass migration and Islamism devastated Sweden and vowed that a new generation of Swedes will take their country back.

At the Sweden Democrats’ 2025 Landsdagarna convention, rising party star and parliamentary candidate Denice Westerberg delivered what may become one of the most consequential speeches in the modern political history of Sweden. Before an audience of party delegates, activists, and young voters, Westerberg laid out a sober, unflinching account of how the nation that was once considered Europe’s safest and most socially cohesive has become a global warning story.

Her address was not cautious. It was not softened by the usual political euphemisms. Instead, Westerberg spoke with a clarity that has been absent from Swedish politics for a generation. She confronted the consequences of mass migration, social fragmentation, failing security, and the spread of militant Islam at a time when establishment parties still struggle to acknowledge the scale of the crisis.

What happened to Sweden. What allowed one of the most admired nations on earth to fall into chaos. And who will lead the fight to take it back. These were the questions she placed before the country.

It's curious to watch how different outlets cover this speech, the way it gets framed from various biases. Regardless, she's from a generation that feels the effects of previous generations decisions.

I don't think this is a western problem, I think it's global. The people engaged in jihadi actions, soft and hard, seek a global Islam Caliphate. They say this all the time, if people will listen.

In my previous post I used the word "Western" because I was thinking of Gad Saad's video in the OP and the Muslim Brotherhood quote:

1. We will conquer the West through the womb of our women.
2. We will conquer the West through Hijra. Hijra is immigration.
3. And then number three, we will conquer the West by using your miserable freedoms against you.

There have been terrorist attacks in India (remember Mumbai), Pakistan, Thailand, Indonesia, China, Russia, several stans, of course all across Europe and growing, Australia, Africa, and including the recent activity in Nigeria, Somalia, Sudan.

As Ernie says, it's reasonable to question what's going on, and also reasonable to take our countries and cultures back, to fight for our values, as Mike says.