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    Mike, this deranged and retarded like thinking by Debbie Schultz is really almost as dangerous and deadly as radical Islam.

    She is trying to claim Trump is more of a threat than Islamic terrorism! The Democrat party is a demonic death cult in my opinion.

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    There is something uniquely problematic with the muslims; they have developed a pattern of terrorism unparalleled in modern times. Groups claiming to represent Islamic values have been responsible for the most terrorist attacks in the past 40 years, not only in the Middle East but globally. There is no denying that Islamic religious extremism has become the dominant form of terrorism worldwide. Couple that fact with poorly thought-out muslim immigration in both Europe and the USA, and you end up with fatal consequences.

    To make matters worse, Muslims are generally the least likely to assimilate into the host country. They actively attempt to influence and radically change the cultural and social values of their new countries. There have been cases where they have successfully introduced aspects of Sharia law in countries like the UK and Canada. If immigrants are unwilling to abide by the laws of the host country, they should not be accepted as immigrants in the first place.

    Many people do not recognize the issues related to Muslim terrorism and immigration as the greatest challenge facing the West. Some mistakenly believe that Israel is the primary problem. They feel they can overlook concerns about Muslims, believing they are fighting the same enemy. This misconception causes them to ignore the larger Muslim terrorism and immigration issues. Even if Israel were to be dissolved as a country, the problems caused by Muslim terrorism and immigration would not disappear; in fact, it would become even more severe.

    To understand the problem, people in the West need to overcome their fear of being labelled racist or Islamophobic by simply speaking the truth. By the time people get over their unfounded fears and anxieties, they will find out that their countries have changed to the point that they no longer represent the same strong family, religious or cultural values that they so loved in the first place.
    There have been cases where they have successfully introduced aspects of Sharia law in countries like the UK and Canada.

    Like Hell they have. Everyone is expected to follow Canadian law, in Canada. It was never even a remote threat that Sharia law would be adopted here. It's statements like this, used as clickbait on social media, most likely, that have me doubting so much you state as fact. Be more skeptical, will ya?
    I don't know about Canada but Sharia courts do operate in certain areas of the UK, informally, with the tacit approval of the state. It would not surprise me at all to find the same is true in Canada but I really have no idea. I have noticed a change here in the UK, people are very aware of the countries changing demographics and the fact that there is a very real possibility that the UK may become a Muslim country by default. The 'your a racist' if you criticize Islam message isn't working anymore, as a result the state is now intimidating and arresting people for having an opinion.

    We are in trouble. We cannot ignore it and hope it will 'go away' or future generations will look back on us with despair.

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    History shows us that western Christianity went through very dark episodes, inflicting wars, torture, executions, invading colonization and displacement of aboriginal population, even genocide. Is Islam any worse?

    One thing we shouldn't forget, is that religions and societies do evolve over time. For example, the pope no longer has life/death power over the citizens of the world like they used to, say in the 1500s, when they burn people at the stake for 'wrong-think'. Similarly, expect to see the children of radical muslims eventually reject extremism, and probably reject organized religion altogether, as many folks have done in the west nowadays.

    Societies tend to move towards less tyranny and more enlightenment when peace and wealth are present.

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    The debate about sharia law took place decades ago in Canada. In the end, it was decided that since Canada already had its own established laws, sharia law would NOT be allowed as a parallel legal system.

    We do have a MASS immigration problem in Canada thanks to the Liberal regime, but they're not muslims. Most of them are Indians, from Khalistan.

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
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    It's not the Jews who are immigrating to Europe in record numbers and breeding the native populations out of existence. It's not the Jews immigrating to Australia and New Zealand and the UK, disrupting and distorting the economy and culture. It's not the Jews who gang raped several hundred thousand white Brit girls over the last 30 years. It's not the Jews committing 48,000 terror attacks in 70 countries since 2011. It's not the Jews slaughtering 50,000-100,000 Christians in Nigeria. It's not the Jews who're against basic personal freedoms and liberties. And you know I could go on and on.
    All these things happened thanks to jews who have been causing mass migration to the west .





    This looks like a 6th grade history project. You've just sent me a tapestry of tiny pics with even tinier print. I can't even see it!

    Make the arguments one by one - in your own words - and I'll engage with you on it. Because I don't even know what to do with this.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
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    All extremists within Abrahamic religions are nuts and most use their extremism to grab power. They're psychopaths, often enough.

    All of them focus on the evil of other religions and cultures, ignorant of or unbothered by their own brands of evil.

    Unifying church and state isn't a good idea in Arab countries and a terrible idea for the US.

    Some think heavy handed Christianity is a good antidote to "woke culture" But it would be much better to replace woke, if it's not appreciated, with something better, not equally or more problematic.

    As far as treatment of women, Muslims need to *vastly* improve, as well as those, like the Jewish rabbi who owns PornHub, (who takes advantage of desperate women to churn out violent porn)

    If it was up to me, I'd trash most holy books and force evangelical Christians to actually follow the lessons of Christ, pray in the privacy of their own homes, and stfu about Jesus, everywhere else. That goes equally for Muslims and Jews.

    I'm f'g sick of it.

    Mike, you professed no sympathy or empathy for thousands upon thousands of innocent Gazan Muslims, killed by Israel yet get on Shaberon's case for not expressing sympathy for 15 (Zionist) Jews killed on a beach.

    Interesting to me that one of your concerns is how the men treat women in Muslim culture, yet you were okay with Israel murdering thousands of them.

    Jess I have plenty of sympathy for anyone killed anywhere, including Gazans.

    What I don't care about and refuse to emotionally invest in is the conflict itself, which is for one tiny slice of land in the middle of nowhere, and which has been in dispute for ages and hasn't shown any signs of resolving itself.

    I was also highlighting (in the post you're referring to) the hypocrisy of everyone obsessing over this one conflict while ignoring most of the other tragedy going on in the world, all while congratulating themselves on their virtue and wagging a finger at anyone else who refused to join this little charade, which is what Dennis was doing. I found and still find all the alleged "compassion" for Gazans to be quite suspect.

    I was led to believe the interest in Gaza was sincere and heartfelt, not politically motivated, not the result of an obsessive news cycle, and not the result of a parasetized populace conditioned to value virtue signaling above all else. We're just good caring people, right? Well I've started a thread recently about the Muslim slaughter of Christians in Nigeria, and I've yet to see you or anyone else express all that sincere heartfelt compassion for anyone there. Nor the white farmers in South Africa getting systematically killed. Why??

    The entire point of the post you're referring to (in Dennis' thread) is not to withhold sympathy and compassion, but to offer it to the people closest to you first and foremost, and then your immediate community, then your country, and if there's anything left perhaps then you could extend it further. I was making the point that emotion and energy are the same thing, and you have to use it judiciously.

    I'm of the opinion that people often deliberately obsess over global conflicts they can do nothing about rather than the things they can do something about because the things they can do something about would actually require them to act in the real world. Writing endless maudlin posts about Gaza is a far more romantic and public display of virtue, and why physically work for those pats on the head when you can just write a social media post or two and be applauded by hundreds or thousands of anonymous twitter handles?

    Your comment about the murdered Jews in Australia is demented. I knew Shaberon was cracked, but I didn't think you'd go that low.

    You are in a state of profound denial about the Muslim problem. I don't even know where to begin to respond to the rest of your post.

    Well I've started a thread recently about the Muslim slaughter of Christians in Nigeria, and I've yet to see you or anyone else express all that sincere heartfelt compassion for anyone there. Nor the white farmers in South Africa getting systematically killed. Why??
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    Because it isn't a Muslim against Christian slaughter. It's a tribal war. And no, white farmers aren't being systematically killed in S. Africa. Some have been killed and that's really f'g awful. South Africa is a terrible place to be white, black, brown or yellow, at this point.

    Here's the thing though, Nigerian Muslims and S.African blacks aren't receiving vast numbers of bombs and other armaments from the US to kill whites and Christians. When that happens people will start marching in the US and globally.

    You keep framing the protests against Gaza genocide as hypocritical. And each time, you ignore the salient fact that protesters are freaked out because of all the horrendous death and their being forced to support it through their tax dollars. In Canada too, we have no idea how much in the way of raw materials we export are being used for weapons by the US to ship to Israel.

    As that fact undermines your central premise, you MUST mentally blow past it. So, by all means, Mike, keep on ignoring that point, just understand that the fact that you do is transparent to most.

    I knew Shabaron was cracked but I didn't think you'd go that low.
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    I could go much "lower" and be considered only mildly critical, by most, considering the seriousness of the problem.

    It's not a tribal war but if you insist on calling it that, fine, the bottom line remains - Muslims are slaughtering Christians all over Nigeria because they're Christians. If you insist on calling Islamic terror groups "tribes" it hardly matters.

    Those Muslim "tribes" are called Boko Haram and ISWAP. Their openly stated goal is to establish an Islamic state/Sharia law in Nigeria, and they are slaughtering Christians in massive numbers (some estimate up to 100,000) destroying churches, and abducting clergy and civilians.

    South Africa is a terrible place to live for everyone, yes, but a much more terrible place for the white Afrikaners who are being slaughtered largely because of this insidious Marxist ethos that's spread around the world like the plague. Here's a small clip of one of their hate rallies, where an entire stadium of black South Africans are chanting "Kill the white farmer". I can't wait to see who'll blame the Jews first for this one LOL


    Who cares if Nigerian Muslims and South African blacks are or aren't receiving bombs from anyone? Death is death. Genocide is genocide. It's all the same. Do you require a certain level of international drama to feel compassion?

    This is part of the hypocrisy I keep pointing out. The alleged compassion for Gaza is just politics and collective zeal recast as "compassion". It's no more evident than here on this very forum. Show people a pile of Christian corpses killed by Muslims, and by heaven or hell they will find a way to blame the Jews. Everything is a Jew problem. It has to be to keep their narrative propped up. You're all deathly afraid to even condemn such evil as rape and murder by Muslims for fear that it might render the narrative you're so emotionally invested in (Jews = bad, Muslims = noble and good) less convincing. Jess look what it's done to you; look how coldly you reacted to those murdered Aussies. All so you could make a cheap political point.
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    History shows us that western Christianity went through very dark episodes, inflicting wars, torture, executions, invading colonization and displacement of aboriginal population, even genocide. Is Islam any worse?
    Yes! Like way worse! Please do some reading. And I mean than sincerely, not as a smarmy remark. It applies to everyone. For the love of God, read about this a little. To know what we're up against now, you need to know what happened in the past.

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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    History shows us that western Christianity went through very dark episodes, inflicting wars, torture, executions, invading colonization and displacement of aboriginal population, even genocide. Is Islam any worse?
    Yes! Like way worse! Please do some reading. And I mean than sincerely, not as a smarmy remark. It applies to everyone. For the love of God, read about this a little. To know what we're up against now, you need to know what happened in the past.
    Here's one scholarly critique that's enlightening: Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam's Obscure Origins

    Written by Robert Spencer.
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    There is something uniquely problematic with the muslims; they have developed a pattern of terrorism unparalleled in modern times. Groups claiming to represent Islamic values have been responsible for the most terrorist attacks in the past 40 years, not only in the Middle East but globally. There is no denying that Islamic religious extremism has become the dominant form of terrorism worldwide. Couple that fact with poorly thought-out muslim immigration in both Europe and the USA, and you end up with fatal consequences.

    To make matters worse, Muslims are generally the least likely to assimilate into the host country. They actively attempt to influence and radically change the cultural and social values of their new countries. There have been cases where they have successfully introduced aspects of Sharia law in countries like the UK and Canada. If immigrants are unwilling to abide by the laws of the host country, they should not be accepted as immigrants in the first place.

    Many people do not recognize the issues related to Muslim terrorism and immigration as the greatest challenge facing the West. Some mistakenly believe that Israel is the primary problem. They feel they can overlook concerns about Muslims, believing they are fighting the same enemy. This misconception causes them to ignore the larger Muslim terrorism and immigration issues. Even if Israel were to be dissolved as a country, the problems caused by Muslim terrorism and immigration would not disappear; in fact, it would become even more severe.

    To understand the problem, people in the West need to overcome their fear of being labelled racist or Islamophobic by simply speaking the truth. By the time people get over their unfounded fears and anxieties, they will find out that their countries have changed to the point that they no longer represent the same strong family, religious or cultural values that they so loved in the first place.
    There have been cases where they have successfully introduced aspects of Sharia law in countries like the UK and Canada.

    Like Hell they have. Everyone is expected to follow Canadian law, in Canada. It was never even a remote threat that Sharia law would be adopted here. It's statements like this, used as clickbait on social media, most likely, that have me doubting so much you state as fact. Be more skeptical, will ya?
    I’m doing my best to avoid confrontation, but it seems like some of my posts prompt challenges. That’s totally okay but please just take a minute or two to look things up before responding. Thanks

    Also, please note I said aspects of Sharia Law not a wholesale adoption. That said some of these aspects are huge in terms of divorce, propery, marriage and custody.

    A 10-second search will provide you with this information

    Where have successful aspects of Sharia law been introduced in Canada?

    In Canada, the introduction of Sharia law has been limited to civil arbitrations in the province of Ontario, where it is permitted under the Arbitration Act of 1991, provided both parties consent. This framework allows for the use of religious principles, including Islamic law, to resolve disputes related to property, marriage, divorce, custody, and inheritance. The Islamic Institute of Civil Justice (IICJ), established in 2003, was created to offer binding arbitration based on Sharia principles, with arbitrators trained in both Sharia and Canadian civil law.

    There have been notable instances of Sharia-influenced practices at the municipal level. In 2008, the city of Edmonton, Alberta, restricted male access to public swimming pools during certain hours to accommodate Muslim women’s requests for gender-segregated swimming, in accordance with Sharia principles. Similarly, in 2011, the municipality of Huntingdon, Quebec, built a mosque and a halal slaughterhouse and offered tax incentives to attract Muslim residents.

    In some public schools, such as Valley Park Middle School in Toronto, cafeteria spaces have been used for Friday prayers, with gender-segregated prayer arrangements, and halal food has been served, though these practices are not mandated by Sharia law and are often part of broader religious accommodation efforts. However, it is important to note that public education in Canada is secular, and religious instruction is not part of the mandated curriculum.

    Despite these developments, the use of Sharia law remains controversial. The Ontario government initially banned religious arbitration in 2006 but later reinstated the allowance for consent-based civil arbitrations under the Arbitration Act. The decisions made by Sharia tribunals are not supposed to conflict with Canadian civil law and can be appealed in regular courts, but there is no third-party oversight or mandatory reporting of decisions, raising concerns about accountability and compliance.

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    Jason Jorjani on the Danny Jones show.
    I'm only 41 minutes in.
    Jason talks about a lot so far and I'm waiting for him to start tying it all together.
    That being said holy crap 35 minutes in he breaks down Islam simply and completely and better than I've ever heard anyone do and
    I've learned a lot just in those few minutes between 35 and 41 minutes in -
    Because of just that segment it's worth being here.
    Jason is no fan of Islam but he points out that Islam really was all formed at once just like Mohammad says and that Islam will soon be the world majority religion.

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)

    It's not the Jews who are immigrating to Europe in record numbers and breeding the native populations out of existence. It's not the Jews immigrating to Australia and New Zealand and the UK, disrupting and distorting the economy and culture. It's not the Jews who gang raped several hundred thousand white Brit girls over the last 30 years. It's not the Jews committing 48,000 terror attacks in 70 countries since 2011. It's not the Jews slaughtering 50,000-100,000 Christians in Nigeria. It's not the Jews who're against basic personal freedoms and liberties. And you know I could go on and on.
    All these things happened thanks to jews who have been causing mass migration to the west .





    This looks like a 6th grade history project. You've just sent me a tapestry of tiny pics with even tinier print. I can't even see it!

    Make the arguments one by one - in your own words - and I'll engage with you on it. Because I don't even know what to do with this.
    Jaak is trying to tell you without being triggering.
    The programming is real, you can't talk about the Jews without triggering people, myself included I used to get triggered by that subject claiming antisemitism if any bad or blame was directed
    I love you bro but you tend to be reactionary on this stuff.
    Jaak's post is a kind gesture, you don't seem to be getting it.

    You want to solve your problem?
    Look at the European leadership they are the problem.
    They are following their orders based on the understanding that white Christians won't go down and willingly sacrifice their autonomy.
    White Christians are the enemy of setting up a one world government as such they shall he displaced and slaughtered by the population being brought in under the guise of refugee humanitarianism.

    Who is orchestrating this?

    The same elite banking class that created the state of Israel as their vassel state.
    Who is orchestrating this?
    The Zionists.
    Who is orchestrating this?
    The Zionists Jews.
    Who is orchestrating this?
    The Jews

    You can hate on Islam all you want but if the fox gets into the hen house and eats your chickens are you going to be mad at the fox, or the guy who brought the fox from 2000 miles away and put him in your chicken coup saying that the poor fox needs somewhere to live and he has decided it is going to be in your chicken coup
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    Marcus I'm not saying there's no value there in Jaak's post, but you can't just bludgeon me with a massive billboard filled with a chaotic hodgepodge of images and teeny-weeny print. It has to be parsed apart one by one. How can I ever begin to respond to that? Each of those little pics could all be separate threads.

    Someone like George Soros is evil first and a Jew secondarily. In other words, he's evil because he's evil, not because he's a Jew. He's a self described atheist. And he's secular Jew, which means a Jew in name only basically. I'm not going to judge the Jews based on the actions of George Soros. That would be like judging the Germans based on Hitler or the Russians on Stalin. But look, I hate George Soros. No one has to twist my arm there. He's responsible for most of the woke rot in the US atm, and he has a lot to answer for.

    So yes, you're right - it's all being orchestrated from on high. We're in total agreement there. But you can't make a thread about everything. This thread is about the Muslim problem specifically because it's the most immediately obvious manifestation of the globalist's plan (that and the woke Marxist movement).

    I'm comfortable with the term "globalists", but uncomfortable with the term "Zionists" simply because I'm not convinced anyone even knows what the f#ck they're talking about half the time when they use the word "Zionists". I started a thread, asking everyone to define Zionism, and it was crickets. That told me a lot. Plus, even though I'm reminded emphatically that all the animosity here is towards the Zionists and not the Jews, those words are used interchangeably constantly. So I have very little faith in that assertion, especially in light of some of the deranged comments on this thread about the recently murdered Jews in Australia.

    Also, I'm America first all the way. I'm only invested in the rest of the world as it applies to the USA. I favor Israel in their current conflict because they're western and civilized and because atm the world is being taken over by something barbaric and uncivilized. And also because I know a little about history, and also because I have these things called "eyes" and I can see quite clearly what's happening right in front of me atm. So if you see me defending Jews, it's not because I care whether or not they're in Gaza or not in Gaza, or because I'm a Zionist sympathizer, but because Jews are the front line against the very anti western barbarism spreading thruout the world atm in the form of the Muslims (which is all designed to destroy the west).
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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Marcus I'm not saying there's no value there in Jaak's post, but you can't just bludgeon me with a massive billboard filled with a chaotic hodgepodge of images and tiny-weeny print. It has to be parsed apart one by one. How can I ever begin to respond to that? Each of those little pics could all be separate threads.

    Someone like George Soros is evil first and a Jew secondarily. In other words, he's evil because he's evil, not because he's a Jew. He's a self described atheist. And he's secular Jew, which means a Jew in name only basically. I'm not going to judge the Jews based on the actions of George Soros. That would be like judging the Germans based on Hitler or the Russians on Stalin. But look, I hate George Soros. No one has to twist my arm there. He's responsible for most of the woke rot in the US atm, and he has a lot to answer for.

    So yes, you're right - it's all being orchestrated from on high. We're in total agreement there. But you can't make a thread about everything. This thread is about the Muslim problem specifically because it's the most immediately obvious manifestation of the globalist's plan (that and the woke Marxist movement).

    I'm comfortable with the term "globalists", but uncomfortable with the term "Zionists" simply because I'm not convinced anyone even knows what the f#ck they're talking about half the time when they use the word "Zionists". I started a thread, asking everyone to define Zionism, and it was crickets. That told me a lot. Plus, even though I'm reminded emphatically that all the animosity here is towards the Zionists and not the Jews, those words are used interchangeably constantly. So I have very little faith in that assertion, especially in light of some of the deranged comments on this thread about the recently murdered Jews in Australia.

    Also, I'm America first all the way. I'm only invested in the rest of the world as it applies to the USA. I favor Israel in their current conflict because they're western and civilized and because atm the world is being taken over by something barbaric and uncivilized. And also because I know a little about history, and also because I have these things called "eyes" and I can see quite clearly what's happening right in front of me atm. So if you see me defending Jews, it's not because I care whether or not they're in Gaza or not in Gaza, or because I'm a Zionist sympathizer, but because Jews are the front line against the very anti western barbarism spreading thruout the world atm in the form of the Muslims.
    The more damage these radical jihadis do in these western countries the more pissed off the civilian populations will get and the more will rise up against these radicals, and ironically more and more will start agreeing and supporting what Israel is doing about "The Muslim Problem".

    So all these people that absolutely hate Israel and blame them for about everything bad that's happening in the world will only hate Israel more, and it will be "The Muslim Problem" as the cause for the escalation of their hatred for Israel.

    Quite fascinating how things work out. Eventually no one will be able to avoid "The Muslim Problem", unless of course one converts and prays they don't get murdered by them anyways....
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    Mike, Thanks for posting that video. I'd looked into it a few months ago and after investigating it further, realized that hate speech isn't tolerated in SAFrica, from a legal standpoint.

    That kind of hate speech can create an environment where some blacks may think they've been given tacit approval to commit crimes against whites, from their society, in general, when really they've just been in an echo chamber with Malema's followers and affinity groups.

    It's much like how Trump has created an atmosphere in the US where people feel hatred for immigrants and act on it, as they think they have tacit approval from the president and don't expose themselves to any information that might counter their opinions. Funny, how humans are all alike that way, regardless of color and religion.

    Anyway, this is what I found about Malema:


    Who is Julius Malema and how much of the vote did he capture?

    Julius Malema is a South African politician

    Election Performance (2024)

    In the most recent South African general election held on May 29, 2024, Malema's party captured:

    National Vote: 9.52% of the support.

    Parliamentary Seats: 39 seats in the 400-member National Assembly.

    Ranking: The EFF became the fourth-largest party in South Africa, losing its third-place position to the newly formed uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) party led by former President Jacob Zuma.

    Who is Julius Malema?

    Controversies: Known for his fiery and militant rhetoric, Malema has been convicted of hate speech multiple times (most notably for singing "Shoot the Boer") and has faced various allegations of corruption and money laundering.

    Recent Legal Issues: In October 2025, Malema was convicted of several firearm-related offenses, including illegally firing a weapon in public during an EFF rally; he faces a potential 15-year prison sentence and a five-year ban from Parliament.

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    Mike -- War in Nigeria:

    In 2025, major tribal and communal wars in Nigeria are primarily concentrated in the
    Middle Belt (North-Central) and the Northwest, though separatist and resource-based conflicts also affect the South. These conflicts are often characterized by a "herder vs. farmer" dynamic that overlaps with ethnic and religious identities
    --Google

    This isn't to say that there are zero murders, conflicts taking place where Muslims are the aggressors. It's all pretty medieval, if you ask me.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Mike, Thanks for posting that video. I'd looked into it a few months ago and after investigating it further, realized that hate speech isn't tolerated in SAFrica, from a legal standpoint.

    That kind of hate speech can create an environment where some blacks may think they've been given tacit approval to commit crimes against whites, from their society, in general, when really they've just been in an echo chamber with Malema's followers and affinity groups.

    It's much like how Trump has created an atmosphere in the US where people feel hatred for immigrants and act on it, as they think they have tacit approval from the president and don't expose themselves to any information that might counter their opinions. Funny, how humans are all alike that way, regardless of color and religion.

    Anyway, this is what I found about Malema:


    Who is Julius Malema and how much of the vote did he capture?

    Julius Malema is a South African politician

    Election Performance (2024)

    In the most recent South African general election held on May 29, 2024, Malema's party captured:

    National Vote: 9.52% of the support.

    Parliamentary Seats: 39 seats in the 400-member National Assembly.

    Ranking: The EFF became the fourth-largest party in South Africa, losing its third-place position to the newly formed uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) party led by former President Jacob Zuma.

    Who is Julius Malema?

    Controversies: Known for his fiery and militant rhetoric, Malema has been convicted of hate speech multiple times (most notably for singing "Shoot the Boer") and has faced various allegations of corruption and money laundering.

    Recent Legal Issues: In October 2025, Malema was convicted of several firearm-related offenses, including illegally firing a weapon in public during an EFF rally; he faces a potential 15-year prison sentence and a five-year ban from Parliament.

    Ok, fair point. I'm glad to see all that. I didn't know that.

    But I'm still concerned about all those people jubilating and chanting and so forth. Even if we assumed all the white hate in South Africa was confined to that one stadium, it's plenty enough to go around and do some real damage. And btw, I get why it's so uncomfortable to accuse blacks of any kind of racism in South Africa given the awful history there. It feels icky. I do get that. But I value the truth the most at the end of the day, and I feel strongly that this should be one of those things that gets talked about.

    There are some people here that hate immigrants, but the hate is mostly confined to rhetoric. There's no movement to go around and kill Mexican field workers, for example (or any other equivalent to the S.Africa farmer thing) None that I know of anyway.

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    This is part of the hypocrisy I keep pointing out. The alleged compassion for Gaza is just politics and collective zeal recast as "compassion". It's no more evident than here on this very forum. Show people a pile of Christian corpses killed by Muslims, and by heaven or hell they will find a way to blame the Jews. Everything is a Jew problem. It has to be to keep their narrative propped up. You're all deathly afraid to even condemn such evil as rape and murder by Muslims for fear that it might render the narrative you're so emotionally invested in (Jews = bad, Muslims = noble and good) less convincing. Jess look what it's done to you; look how coldly you reacted to those murdered Aussies. All so you could make a cheap political point.
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    Who cares if Nigerian Muslims and South African blacks are or aren't receiving bombs from anyone? Death is death. Genocide is genocide. It's all the same. Do you require a certain level of international drama to feel compassion?

    I care. I pay taxes to the US govt, even though I live in Canada, and I'll be damned if I want any of it going to bunker buster bombs, purposely dropped on tents, for Gawd's sakes. And you can bet if that was occurring in Africa I'd be just as livid as would all those who've been marching for Gaza.

    Just because you don't care about innocent Muslims getting killed, en massedon't think others are like you and just pretending to care.

    Jess look what it's done to you; look how coldly you reacted to those murdered Aussies. All so you could make a cheap political point.


    And you? The alleged compassion for Gaza is just politics and collective zeal recast as "compassion".

    How does that square with your first line? Death is death. Genocide is genocide. It's all the same.

    Zionists are responsible for FAR more disproportionate pain and suffering than you are aware of. And Christian Zionism is the worst offender. I won't say 'Jews' as Zionists use that religion for cover.

    I also don't think Muslims are all good. I think they are human and as character disordered in their own way, as all other humans.

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    And I'll add, there's a lot about the Muslim religion I hate. I also don't like cousin marriage and their intolerance of homosexuality, but, I don't want to see them killed either. Not supporting killing other religions, isn't the same as just loving the heck out of them!

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    You post about Muslim terrorism being the worst in history, and other exaggerations and fear mongering statements. Then follow it up in the next paragraph by saying, "some aspects of Sharia law are practiced in Canada." That's purposely done to create the impression that Canadians are under threat somehow. For most people any aspect of Sharia law following your initial statements, would create mental images of "some aspects" of a hand cut off for theft.

    Kind of you to include info about segregated swimming for women, and also consent based civil arbitration as that aspect of "Sharia Law." But, you have to admit, it lacks the punch that you were trying for initially. And, am I supposed to feel sheepish for taking you to task and denying your initial statement? I don't. Maybe you should feel embarrassed for being a manipulative.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    I've been misinformed I guess. I thought Buddhists were all about compassion and sh!t.


    You are misinforming yourself by the use of labels.

    The most compassionate act I could render is to stop the United States and to blot out this mentality.

    The actual payback of justice just for Korea would be to carpet bomb 30% of the population. Then you could take another amount with napalm for Vietnam. And so on. That form is not likely to happen, so I am under a moral obligation to at the very least say something.

    I'm going to try to do this nicely, one more time. I'm not going through a thing where we pretend history didn't happen and that humans can be reduced to some categories and checkboxes.

    I've tried asking what the motivation is for this, and it is just an "area", or, maybe, an amorphous "culture", but there are serious issues with it.

    First of all there is a normal reaction to this same news simply posted as Bondi Massacre 2025. Well, it is from a person in the area. Everything is fine. No panic. As in, no reactionary conversations are being raised, because there isn't really any issue to talk about.



    Now first of all for this "area" to exist, the politics are Saudi. As explained, this is a British trick after getting the Arabs (Muslims) to attack the Ottomans (Muslims) from the south. Saud is the House of removing Al Quds from Arabia.

    As British -- Zionist as that may be, it is just a facet on synarchy or oligarchy.


    The thing you have posted here -- until we can figure out any difference -- is the strategy of modern Fascism.


    Joseph Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre (26 March 1842 – 5 February 1909)

    Saint Yves is not ambiguous at all on the question of Islam. In the
    {Mission des souverains} he warned about the necessity of its exclusion. He
    wrote: "I have indicated the measures to be taken with respect to Islam:" said
    Saint Yves," there are very different other ones that the Council of Churches
    would have to adopt vis-à-vis Israel. This last one, entangled, but not
    regularly associated with all of the works of Christianity, having no armed
    political body in opposition to it, like Islam has, should not, without
    dangerous iniquity, be treated like the Social State of the Muslims." Saint
    Yves argues that there must absolutely be a new alliance between the
    Christian nations of Europe and Israel against Islam, even if people object
    that it was "the people of Jerusalem who crucified Jesus." (p. 449)

    Saint-Yves wrote: "In summation: Israel is a major (player) rallied in
    fact to the Empire of Civilization; Islam in a minor (player) armed against
    that Empire. We must open to the first the assurance and regular enjoyment
    of its right; we must tie the second, willingly or by force, to the Christian
    peace everywhere across Africa and Asia."



    It's pure Fascism 100%.

    It's verbally against the Peace of Westphalia, which it knows was the thinking of early America, which means America's knowledge and values have changed, if no one knows anything about this, and and apparently they don't.

    Rockefeller, Fiat, Franco's Spain and the Condor Legion...and so on...and it leaves me curious how many are truly in favor of Fascism.

    Threatening me and providing a solution is Fascism. That's what looks like happened here.

    It's the doctrine of One World Empire:

    ...a diatribe against the Treaty of Westphalia. His animosity and
    venom were directed against the Westphalia gathering because it had introduced a
    principle of the {Advantage of the other, agape}, and failed to establish a Synarchy of
    Empire based on {taking advantage of the other}.


    Support of the west plus Palestine to the exclusion of the Arabs is Fascism. If this is what anyone thinks, you are a Fascist. Just say so. Things will be simpler that way.

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