Bondi Massacre 2025

[Jaak]

[shaberon]

A few brief details:

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - More than $2.5 million has been raised for Ahmed al-Ahmed, a 43-year-old Syrian-born Australian who tackled and disarmed an attacker during the Bondi Beach shooting in Australia that killed 15 people.

Police said the suspects were a father and son; the father was killed at the scene, while the son is being treated in hospital.

Federal Police Commissioner Krissy Barrett said the shooting was a “terrorist attack inspired by Islamic State.”

[BMJ]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by BMJ (here)
It is " business as usual ", the only ones making any noise about this possible false flag is the MSN.

Good to hear.

It may or may not be a false flag. A hint would be something like America the day after 9/11 had solved the case. That makes one leery. Since then, we get too many knee-jerk reactions about everything, which is a distraction.

Down the street today we had a similar one. The beginning was unclear, but it evolved to a hostage situation. The deputies showed up and were able to kill the gunman before anyone else got hurt.

It would be a fitting story if you find Mossad cash behind it and no gullible public reaction as a result.

But it is just as easy for someone to get so mad at Israel that it's a purely personal motive.

It's very unlikely that any kind of organized militia would squander its resources on random slaughter in distant locations. To the extent that ISIS cells might theoretically pop up anywhere, look who they don't kill.


It might be said there are different kinds of immigrant communities, particularly I am guessing Australia can fill multiple suburbs because of refugees from Iraq. Here, it is just the fact that bigger companies do international hiring, which brings in a little bit of everybody. The exception is Mexico because it is connected. But this was "undeveloped", in the sense it crowded people out of the labor force because they were willing to work cheaper. At this point, if I wanted to look for work in a Carniceria or a Panderia, would I be a "gringo"?

I don't know. I would agree an amount of segregation is natural, and that under reasonable circumstances, parties will work out integration on their own, at least partially, in the way being described. You can at least have a normal respectful public interface. Doesn't mean you have to merge and turn into some plastic face consumer mono-culture.

New immigrants have left their country for economic or political reasons and are seeking a better life in a western country. But they find comfort in familiarity so they seek out their own kind. I think it 's typical for any immigrant.

But on the other hand here in Australia immigrants may get a student visa or working visa but it is very hard to get citizenship or permanent residence so if they do get either they really appreciate it. The only time it is easy is if you can fill a skilled role such as a doctor, engineer, it specialist.

For example I know of a young Pakistani lady whom is having a hard time getting her PR and has tried to prolong here stay in hopes of gaining employment by have completed her degree in medicine and is extending her stay by doing her masters degree in medicine and all the while looking for a permanent job here in Australia.

The new immigrants manage to find a happy medium where by they can enjoy their cultural and also integrate it with Australia cultural. For example the lebanese here both christian and muslim are absolutely nuts about football. When I think of lebanese I think the Bulldogs. I know of another young lady from Nepal whom I asked would she have an arranged marriage for her daughters she said "no they can marry whom ever the please", which is unusual as it is a tradition to me married off in her cultural.

Link: https://www.bulldogs.com.au/teams/?c...11&team=500010

Very few suburbs have large concentration of one ethnic group they only one that comes to mind is Lakemba. Canadian Lauren Southern can tell you all about her experience there.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9MgCE933w8

The other factor that immigrants successfully intergate is because some suburbs may have more say afghans than another but you have alot of diversity in every suburb out in western Sydney, I could list probably 20 different nationalities from my suburb alone from Africa, Middle East, Aussie, South America and Asia. And so you get used to seeing different people and interacting with them and that familiarity means acceptance and so very few issues.

So these different factors in part, and I am no expert on this, make integration work that is the fact immigrants have to work for and appreciation citizenship or PR, and that many different races co mingling in everyday life and that they in part embrace the Australian way of life.

[BMJ]

Didn't We See This Coming
The Sleight of hand as everyone is distracted by the christmas season the politicians introduce new gun laws.

And just on time for a second harvest with more than 4 million guns in aussie hands, more than in 1996 at the time of the Port Arthur Massacre.

Well if the people every revolute we can always use pitchforks and shovels, well at least until they are also band.


Bondi terror attack spurs Australia's biggest gun buyback scheme since Port Arthur massacre

Federal Approach

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" Australia's largest gun buyback scheme since the aftermath of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre will be launched in the wake of the Bondi Beach terror attack.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese announced the scheme this morning, saying it is expected to lead to the seizure and destruction of hundreds of thousands of "surplus, newly banned and illegal" firearms. " ...

"We know that one of these terrorists held a firearm licence and had six guns, in spite of living in the middle of Sydney's suburbs there at Bonnyrigg. "There's no reason why someone in that situation needed that many guns.

"There are now more than 4 million firearms in Australia - more than at the time of the Port Arthur massacre nearly 30 years ago."

The buyback will help enforce the changes to firearm control laws agreed to by national cabinet earlier this week, which will include limiting the number of weapons one person can own, bringing forward the National Firearms Register, and restricting gun licences to Australian citizens.


NSW Approach

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" Licensed residents will be limited to owning four guns each, although there will be some exceptions for farmers, other primary producers, and sporting shooters.

Category A and B licences will now only cover magazines with a capacity of 5-10 rounds, while some guns will be upgraded so they can only be obtained under a category C licence.

"Will reclassify straight, pull, pump-action, button, lever release firearms into category C - limiting their access primarily to farmers, agriculture, and primary producers," Minns said.

The state will also enforce more frequent licence renewals and stronger identity checks.

"People need to remember: owning a gun is a privilege, it is not a right," Catley said.

"That privilege must never, ever outweigh community safety. "These reforms ensure there is no ambiguity when it comes to public safety. "

Link: https://www.9news.com.au/national/bo...0-af0ce87a9625

[rgray222]

Snipers guard mourners as thousands mark one week since Bondi Beach massacre


The Sydney Opera House is illuminated with candlelights on Sunday, as part of a national day of reflection honoring the victims of the Bondi Beach terrorist attack.

Thousands turned out for a memorial on Sunday, one week on from the Bondi Beach mass shooting that shook Australia, as officials announced a review of the country's law enforcement and intelligence agencies.

The attack — Australia’s worst mass shooting in nearly three decades — killed 15 people during a seaside Hanukkah celebration and was designated a terrorist attack targeting the Jewish community. One suspected shooter was killed during the attack, while the other was injured and charged with terrorism and murder after he awoke from a coma, as Australian investigators probe their alleged connection to the Islamic State terror group.

A minute of silence was observed at 6:47 p.m. local time (2:47 a.m. E.T.) on Sunday, exactly seven days since the attack began. A candle projection lit up Sydney Opera House, while crowds of mourners attended an evening memorial at Bondi, guarded by a heavy police presence, including snipers on rooftops and police boats in the waters.


Mourners attend the memorial held for the victims of a shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney on Sunday.
David Ossip, the president of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies, told the crowd: "Like the grass here at Bondi was stained with blood, so, too, has our nation been stained. We have landed up in a dark place."

But he pointed to the heroism of Ahmed al-Ahmed, a Syrian-Australian fruit shop owner who disarmed one of the shooters, adding that "a single act of courage, a single flame of hope, can give us direction and point the path forward."

Ossip read a message to the crowd from al-Ahmed, who is recovering in the hospital after sustaining multiple gunshot wounds. In his message, al-Ahmed said: "The Lord is close to the broken-hearted. Today I stand with you, my brothers and sisters."

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was in attendance at the memorial, as well as Governor-General Sam Mostyn, King Charles' representative in Australia. Former prime minister of Australia John Howard was photographed embracing mourners in the crowd.

The shooting has left Australians across the country reeling, with tributes accompanied by a reckoning over the government’s response to growing antisemitism and the availability of guns in the country.

Albanese was booed by the crowds as he arrived for the memorial on Sunday night. It comes after criticism from leaders in Australia’s Jewish community and some of the victims’ families, who have blamed the Australian government for missing the signs of growing antisemitism in the wake of the war between Hamas and Israel that erupted in the aftermath of the Oct. 7, 2023 attack, and accused it of not doing enough to protect the country’s Jewish community.

On Sunday, Albanese commissioned a review into Australia’s federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies to examine whether they have the “right powers, structures, processes and sharing arrangements in place to keep Australians safe” in the wake of the attack.

“The ISIS-inspired atrocity last Sunday reinforces the rapidly changing security environment in our nation,” his statement said. “Our security agencies must be in the best position to respond.” The review is to be completed by next April, Albanese said.

The shooting has left Australians across the country reeling, with tributes accompanied by a reckoning over the government’s response to growing antisemitism and the availability of guns in the country.

Albanese was booed by the crowds as he arrived for the memorial on Sunday night. It comes after criticism from leaders in Australia’s Jewish community and some of the victims’ families, who have blamed the Australian government for missing the signs of growing antisemitism in the wake of the war between Hamas and Israel that erupted in the aftermath of the Oct. 7, 2023 attack, and accused it of not doing enough to protect the country’s Jewish community.

On Sunday, Albanese commissioned a review into Australia’s federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies to examine whether they have the “right powers, structures, processes and sharing arrangements in place to keep Australians safe” in the wake of the attack.

“The ISIS-inspired atrocity last Sunday reinforces the rapidly changing security environment in our nation,” his statement said. “Our security agencies must be in the best position to respond.” The review is to be completed by next April, Albanese said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/austra...iew-rcna250290

[shaberon]

Posted by BMJ (here)
The other factor that immigrants successfully intergate is because some suburbs may have more say afghans than another but you have alot of diversity in every suburb out in western Sydney, I could list probably 20 different nationalities from my suburb alone from Africa, Middle East, Aussie, South America and Asia. And so you get used to seeing different people and interacting with them and that familiarity means acceptance and so very few issues.

That's way beyond what it's like here.

Aside from cities with an old "international" reputation -- e. g., London, Amsterdam, New York -- I cannot think of an equivalent to what you describe. Unfortunately, what I can describe, would be more like single families, defrayed without much sympathetic support, and usually despised by our citizens.

I would give you the opposite message...don't go to Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia...these places are phenomenally hostile to other Americans to begin with. Something horrible will happen; such as being beaten to death in the street. I was reminded of this very recently by someone who escaped. I don't really want to go into further detail about it; it's bad.

And, that explains gun control...the most common murder weapon is a hammer.

So far, I haven't seen anything that says this was anything other than an act of radicalism; Israel doesn't have to "do" it, in order to slant and spin everything that happens.

Similar Russian incidents are usually followed in 2-3 days by discovery of messaging to MI6 and the like. That usually means a bag of cash was involved. So far at Bondi, it looks like an independent or personal act.

[DustOff72]

As an Irish-American, it is safe to say that some of us Goyim are able to distinguish between good Jews and bad Jews. Secular Jews and Zionist Jews, secular Jews and Talmudic Jews.

The high irony regarding the false flag at Bondi Beach is that the fellow who saved the day as it were was a Syrian Muslim, the sort of person intended to be defamed by the Zionist propagandists.

[rgray222]

Posted by DustOff72 (here)
As an Irish-American, it is safe to say that some of us Goyim are able to distinguish between good Jews and bad Jews. Secular Jews and Zionist Jews, secular Jews and Talmudic Jews.

The high irony regarding the false flag at Bondi Beach is that the fellow who saved the day as it were was a Syrian Muslim, the sort of person intended to be defamed by the Zionist propagandists.

I am not sure how people could make distinctions between groups of Jewish people, or any large, diverse community, without knowing each individual personally. I am not sure how some goyim could do that without making generalizations, stereotypes, cultural observations, or using political and ideological beliefs.

I think what the world witnessed and what the world was told actually happened. The incident was authentic, and the actions of the Syrian guy were in response to a real threat, not part of a manufactured or staged event.

[BMJ]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
I think what the world witnessed and what the world was told actually happened. The incident was authentic, and the actions of the Syrian guy were in response to a real threat, not part of a manufactured or staged event.

The Spanner In The Works Keeps Getting Bigger

Quote, his father Mohamed Fateh Al Ahmed:
" "When he did what he did, he wasn't thinking about the background of the people he's saving, the people dying in the street," Mr Ahmed said.
"He doesn't discriminate between one nationality and another. Especially here in Australia, there's no difference between one citizen and another." "

Link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-...peak/106143864

[Blastolabs]

Posted by sdv (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ke0nsy70khE

This is an interesting analysis of the tragedy at Bondi Beach as a false flag operation. He also points out why people misunderstand what a false flag operation is and go down sensational blind alleys (911 ... there were no planes; Sandy Hook ... there were no victims). A successful false flag operation is often opportunistic, it is real, and most people participating are not part of the planning. He starts off checking fur Google searches for one of the shooters, in the time leading up to the event. The man was not a public figure, but there was interest in him from a number of countries. Could we look at this differently and consider that he is well known in IS circles and perhaps that is why there was interest in him? Or, was this guy always set up for a false flag operation and the small number of people involved were trying to leave a trail to legitimize the narrative?
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Just want to point out that this video is AI generated. The voiceover is modern Asian American accent text to speech
Listen to his patterns of speech for a few moments while knowing this and it becomes obvious that it is not a real human speaking.

[Blastolabs]

Posted by shaberon (here)
I would give you the opposite message...don't go to Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia...these places are phenomenally hostile to other Americans to begin with. Something horrible will happen; such as being beaten to death in the street. I was reminded of this very recently by someone who escaped. I don't really want to go into further detail about it; it's bad.

Are you saying Chicago, Baltimore, and Philly are too dangerous to visit? You would be too scared to walk around in the streets?

I think you really need to meet people that are not from your background.
Humans are humans, every stereotype or prejudice I have ever had has been wrong, which I learned by meeting people.

I would argue that the average Muslim American is MUCH more kind and caring than the average American. I've had 2 Muslim roommates from Syria and Indonesia, and they were both extremely kind and also COMPLETELY UNIQUE HUMANS.

I have never met a mean Muslim person, have you? Has anyone reading this message ever met a "mean Muslim person" in real life? Serious question.

[shaberon]

Posted by Blastolabs (here)
Are you saying Chicago, Baltimore, and Philly are too dangerous to visit? You would be too scared to walk around in the streets?

I think you really need to meet people that are not from your background.

No. I would not be afraid of something like that. It's something to be aware of and for outsiders it could be worse.

Humans are humans, every stereotype or prejudice I have ever had has been wrong, which I learned by meeting people.

I would argue that the average Muslim American is MUCH more kind and caring than the average American. I've had 2 Muslim roommates from Syria and Indonesia, and they were both extremely kind and also COMPLETELY UNIQUE HUMANS.

I have never met a mean Muslim person, have you? Has anyone reading this message ever met a "mean Muslim person" in real life? Serious question.

That's what I was getting at. In our cities, violence occurs for multiple reasons, whereas out here in the country, they sit around and think it.

I spent most of my existence trying to veer away from meanness, and, I would say this part of the quote is true. It is more generally true for anyone than it is false. But America is very insular and I do not think it is possible for the rest of the world to understand.

It's mixed. Some of them are friendly enough, and some are far to the opposite.

That's why I thought the level-headedness around this recent incident was a good example.