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    Malignant Narcissist.. criminal and grifter.. not only con man.. he is bathing himself and his family in a bigger swamp he said, he will get rid of... I can not believe how gullible and stupid people are... still watching up to him... Shame!!!!

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    Epstein reveal charade. Drain the swamp? Trump's Epstein connection flushes him down the plughole. Maria Farmer reported it all to the FBI in 1999. Deliberate overlook

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    The "totalitarian tiptoe" will eventually (and sooner rather than later) be visited upon ALL American citizens.


    Immigrants’ DNA to Be Tested Under New DHS Plan--October 31

    Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not--November 4


    Expanding Border Security: DNA and Social Media History to Be Collected from Travellers--December 14


    Moreover, visitors may be required to disclose their phone numbers, email addresses, and even IP addresses used over the last five to ten years. Additional personal data, such as the names, birth dates, and places of birth of close family members (spouses, parents, children, siblings), may also be collected. These proposed data fields would go far beyond the standard requirements currently in place, offering a much deeper dive into travelers’ personal and professional lives.


    Soon it will be all tourists and then all citizens, I figure.
    Here we go. It has officially arrived.

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    Nothing will come of the documents being released.

    The Fascists have won, not just in the US but internationally. Fascism has to play itself out through more war, more famine, more misery.

    Those countries who have or will shortly vote in monsters have to feel the boot directly on their own faces, before they'll acknowledge there's a massive problem.
    I agree 100%. The total erosion of our legal system is happening before our eyes. What recourse is there when the Department of Justice has deliberately and with malicious intent, ignored the law? This release of the Epstein files by the DOJ is a huge middle finger 🖕 to every citizen in the United States and perhap, the world. Everyone should be furious, regardless of political affiliations. This is what they call transparency folks! You have a problem with that? Is their attitude. Scary.

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    I don't admit this a lot, but I have a strong educational background in economics. Recognising the good, the bad, and the ugly in economic systems removes that cynicism and provides the tools to understand how it works.

    Trump may not be the answer for a lot of people, but if you are turning over rocks trying to find facism then I suggest you move northward beyond the border. The ground for fascism is much more fertile.

    Again you are posting something diversionary without making a point.

    It's "Fascism" (strong education), and we're not turning over rocks trying to find it. Most of us are looking to see if it ends anywhere, and are not impressed with an "economic system" holding $37 T of debt. To take an ad hominem against Butler does nothing about the underlying issues.

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    This is how it is being understood in international consortiums:




    On the International Day against Violence and Extremism, critics argue that US and Israeli policies have entrenched war, state terrorism, and global instability.

    December 18, 2014 has been designated as the International Day against Violence and Extremism by the UN General Assembly resolution. In this regard, this year, the international conference "Peace and a World Free of Violence in Legal Principles and Shared Cultural Values" was held at Tehran University on Sunday, December 21, 2025, with the participation of a group of university professors, and prominent Iranian and foreign jurists.

    The reality is that today, with the expansion of America's hostile and violent policies against independent and multilateral countries and its insistence on institutionalizing unilateralism in the Trump era, the world is witnessing the rapid growth of state terrorism and the preparation for war. The realities of the scene show that terrorism, violence and war-mongering are the products of the neoconservative policies of America and the Zionist regime, and it is not wrong to consider the rulers of Tel Aviv as the main accomplices of the White House in this area.

    The ideological foundations of terrorist networks are rooted in the hegemonic tendencies of the United States, and the joint action of Washington and Tel Aviv to assassinate the main figures of the Resistance Axis, nuclear scientists, the genocide in Gaza, and the aggression against Iran is considered the result of the incitement of the United States and Israel.

    In fact, the support of American officials, especially Trump, for Israel is the main source of war and state terrorism and its spread in the world. According to Paul Atwood, a professor of American studies at the University of Massachusetts, terrorism is a tool in the US foreign policy strategy.

    Israel, which does not shy away from admitting to the killing of its opponents and terrorist operations in countries around the world, seeks to implement the strategy of expanding this regime "from the Nile to the Euphrates" or "Greater Israel" by increasing war and insecurity in West Asia. Tel Aviv, by ignoring international laws and regulations, the genocide in Gaza, the continuation of the occupation of Palestine, and the destabilization of Lebanon and Syria, also enjoys the support of the United States as a promoter of terrorism.

    This year, the world is welcoming the Day to Combat Violence and Extremism, while the United States and the Zionist regime are undoubtedly the main promoters of war and insecurity and the most hated regimes in the world, and the killing of children and women in Gaza is one of the prominent symbols of Washington and Tel Aviv's collaboration in creating fear and intimidation in the world. Of course, the inefficiency of the United Nations and its executive arm, the Security Council, has also exacerbated the process of violence and war and threatened international peace and security.

    Apart from inciting war in West Asia, the movement that the United States has put on the agenda against Venezuela is a warmongering action in the Caribbean Sea. The US's excuse for aggression against Venezuela, namely its connection to drug trafficking, is completely false because combating drugs has its own ways and methods, and no country has sought to combat drug trafficking through war and aggression against an independent country. Today, there are places in America that are the production and distribution of drugs, and this issue is abundant in some parts of New York, and if Trump wants to fight drugs, he must first start in his own country. At the time of the emergence of the Taliban, the Americans allowed them to earn money from selling drugs, acquire weapons, and fight the Afghan fighters who had defeated the former Soviet Union. Therefore, the claim that the United States is seeking to combat drugs in Venezuela is an excuse to destabilize a revolutionary state and put its desired person in power in this country.

    Of course, history has shown that no country can usurp another country without suffering damage itself, and if a war breaks out in the Caribbean, it will be long-term and may even spread to other Latin American countries.

    At this critical time, it is necessary for supporters of peace and justice and the main opponents of terrorism and war, united and deciding, to show their seriousness in fighting violence in the field. Non-governmental organizations, research centers, academics, and the media can also play a role in a world free of war and terrorism by exposing the main perpetrators of global problems.

    The Islamic Republic of Iran, as a peace-loving country that has repeatedly shown that it has been a pioneer in eradicating terrorism and warmongering, can also take the necessary measures in this regard in bilateral and multilateral relations at the current stage.

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    "I've lost faith in the American people being able to differentiate between right and wrong"... says Scott Ritter about the dump of redacted Epstein files...

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    Criminal families...

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    Trump's been extra busy this year with his corrupt and chaotic handling of DEI, immigration, the trade war, SNAP benefits, foreign bribes, and more, but Jon Stewart managed to sum it all up with one big, beautiful word: Bulls**t!

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    Two disgusting people... this administration... Trillions of dollars are being transferred from poor to the rich AGAIN.. as first term... but now, on a much larger scale..

    Bravo Dilon! Bravo!!!!

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    Yes... you are right Kyle.. utterly agree with you.. short video.. but right on the target!

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    Trump is a Trojan Horse...

    Long good article in https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/10...limits-part-1/

    City-States Without Limits – Part 1

    A powerful group of Silicon Valley oligarchs are using the Trump administration to push for the construction of privatized city-states in the US. Their interests are aligned with a global network of oligarchs who want to move away from the global governance of nation-states to the global governance of an international network of city-states. The intention is for the city-states to form a “patchwork” of realms overseen by a regional balance of power global governance system: the Multipolar World Order.

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    New city-states—some being constructed from scratch and others being seeded into existing cities—go by many names. In the US, President Donald Trump has called them “Freedom Cities.” The United Nations refers to them as “human settlements,” the C40 Cities Network calls them “15 minute cities,” The Global Parliament of Mayors sometimes refers to them as “resilient cities,” and the Charter Cities Institute calls them, unsurprisingly, “charter cities.”

    But whatever they are called, they have a defined set of common characteristics. All of these emerging city-states are centrally planned and designed to maximise the use of technology. Some are already close to becoming completed “smart cities.” Many of these new city-states, as yet undeclared, have been given independent jurisdiction with varying degrees of autonomy from the nation-states in which they reside.

    Perhaps their most striking shared trait is their universal commitment to implement global governance policy initiatives. To this end, many nascent city-states have already joined city-based global governance networks.

    Their development is being driven by a public-private partnership investment strategy that is encouraged and supported at the global governance level. Some are currently being built in so called “Special Economic Zones” (SEZs). Other announced city-state developments, such as Freedom Cities in the US, bear all the hallmarks of SEZs. The global proliferation of Special Economic Zones, most notably those with “residential spaces,” is rapidly expanding the potential locations for yet more city-state projects. There are already thousands.

    Conspicuous philosophical and political theories, and the city-state landscape forming before our eyes, redefines our concept of global governance. The notion of phasing out the purported “sovereignty” of nation-states is now firmly embedded in the strategies to develop a new kind of intergovernmental structure. One in which the city predominates. The concept of a worldwide network of privatized, corporate city-state “kingdoms” has been embraced and is viewed as the best and most expedient method both for enslaving humanity to a centralised digital surveillance and behavioural control grid, and for establishing firm global governance.

    Gov-Corp Technates

    In a previous two-part investigation for Unlimited Hangout—The Dark MAGA Gov-Corp Technate Part 1 and Part 2—we explored the so-called philosophy of the Dark Enlightenment and the sociopolitical theory of Technocracy. We saw how these two concepts overlap and witnessed how they have captured the imaginations of a group of Silicon Valley oligarchs—Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Marc Andreessen, etc.,—who have effectively seized control of the Trump administration. It is recommended that you read those essays to get a perspective on some of the concepts we will expand on here.

    The Dark Enlightenment was a philosophical treatise first published by British political theorist and philosopher Nick Land in 2012. It incorporated the ideas espoused by US “thinker,” tech entrepreneur and blogger Curtis Yarvin. Publication of the Dark Enlightenment in the UK and Yarvin’s theories, published in the US, combined to lay the alleged intellectual foundations of what has become known as the Neoreactionary movement (NRx).

    In the Dark Enlightenment, Land acknowledged the influence of Peter Thiel on the growth of his own ideas. Specifically, Land referenced Thiel’s 2009 article “The Education of a Libertarian” as formative. Curtis Yarvin describes Thiel as “fully enlightened,” and is a close associate of Thiel’s. Thiel’s Founders Fund financed Yarvin’s tech startup ventures.

    In essence, the Dark Enlightenment proposes that public sector government should be replaced with a form of private sector government. Privatized, corporate realms should be ruled by the CEO “TechnoKings” of “sovereign corporations” (sovcorps) as dictatorships. The realms can then be linked to form what Yarvin termed a “Patchwork” of realms. In 2008, describing his notion of the “Patchwork,” Yarvin wrote:

    The basic idea of Patchwork is that, as the crappy governments we inherited from history are smashed, they should be replaced by a global spiderweb of tens, even hundreds, of thousands of sovereign and independent mini-countries, each governed by its own joint-stock corporation without regard to the residents’ opinions.



    Yarvin was obviously floating the idea of breaking up nations-states into private fiefdoms where the people living in them have no voice, no individual sovereignty, and are powerless. The ideas of the NRx are extremely authoritarian. The NRx model of “government” is disassociated from any notion of politics as we understand it. As Peter Thiel wrote in his influential 2009 article, the objective is “to find an escape from politics in all its forms.”

    It is worth pausing here to emphasise an important point. Neither the NRx nor the technocrats—we’ll cover them shortly—present concepts that fit easily into our comprehension of existing sociopolitical systems. Their intention is to eradicate everything we associate with so-called “representative democracy” and replace it with technological social control systems unlike anything we are currently familiar with, though more of us are starting to grasp what it portends.

    For example, in order to access the realm’s currency, the “customer”—there are no citizens in an NRx technocrat run city-state—will need digital ID. Digital ID linked to digital currency will enable all the assets of every “customer” to be recorded and maintained on the realm’s unified ledger. The unified ledger will use Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) to record all customers’ assets. Consequently, those who control access to the ledger effectively have control of every customer’s life.

    Imagining what life was like for oppressed peasants living in the feudal societies of Medieval Europe is probably the best way to visualise the future the darkly enlightened technocrats have in mind for us. Nothing could be further removed from libertarian principles.

    The leading NRx technocrats are not the only members of, what we might call, the parasite class who wish to enslave us with digital technology. Nor are they the only oligarchs who want to transform our international polity into a network of city-states overseen by a firm global governance structure. Indeed, the NRx technocrats’ plans have succeeded to this point precisely because they gel with the objectives of the global oligarchy, of which they are a part.

    Unfortunately, because the NRx technocrats propose doing away with government and exiting all political systems, this has led some libertarians to imagine that the NRx technocrat’s model is preferable to existing sociopolitical systems. Indeed, NRx influencers like Thiel are happy to be perceived as libertarian and eager to promote the idea that they are. Presumably, they do so because what they actually advocate is much closer to fascism than to libertarianism.

    Telling people you want them to live in a corporate controlled technological dictatorship is not an easy sales pitch. Cloaking yourself in faux libertarianism and casting yourselves as the opponents of the globalist oligarchy neatly covers the deceit.

    Land posited that gov-corp would operate on the national scale to run “an efficient, attractive, vital, clean, and secure country.” Though the relationship between gov-corp and sovcorps isn’t specified by the NRx (anywhere), given that Yarvin’s notion of sovcorp realms is based upon smashing nation-states to pieces, Land’s idea of a “secure country” run by gov-corp suggests some sort of private ruling body overseeing the “Patchwork” of sovcorp realms. Gov-corp global governance if you like.

    Peter Thiel is a leading proponent of the Dark Enlightenment and an advocate for the ideas of the NRx. His fellow tech-oligarch Elon Musk, who, like Thiel, heavily backs the Trump administration, avidly promotes the implementation of Technocracy. Often described simply as a sociopolitical system controlled by relevant experts, as Musk well knows, Technocracy is much more than that.

    Technocracy is a comprehensive centralised social and behavioural control system which dictates every aspect of what genuine “technocrats,” like Musk, call “the social mechanism.” Human beings are reduced to programmable automatons or “human engines” whose actions can be controlled through the surveillance of the monetary system and the economy, and through the centralised management and allocation of all resources.

    Technocrats assume that there is no problem that technology cannot resolve. Crucially, Technocracy relies upon a redesigned monetary system that maximises the use of technology to monitor and manipulate every transaction. By doing so, the “function” of the human engine in the “social mechanism” can be programmed. All human behavior is regulated, permitted or restricted in a Technocracy. By overseeing the distribution of all resources, combined with firm conditions placed upon all economic activity, the behaviour of every business and every individual across the entire social mechanism—we would say across the whole of “society”—can supposedly be precisely engineered by the technocrats in a Technocracy.

    The original founders of the Technocracy movement in the US envisaged the replacement of all nation-states on a continental scale and the establishment of a North American Technate. A “Technate” would be run by a “Continental Board” who would select a “Continental Director” from within their ranks to rule the entire Technate as a technological dictatorship.

    Musk’s own family history is steeped in the Technocracy tradition and he has openly declared his ambition to establish Technocracy. To give an example, in an October 2024 exchange on Musk’s ‘X’ social media platform (formerly Twitter) between Musk and Guillaume Verdon, Verdon said “The Network State for Mars is being formed before our eyes.” Musk enthusiastically replied, “The Mars Technocracy,” to which Verdon gleefully responded “Count me in.”

    Verdon is the founder of the Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) philosophical wing of the NRx and a tech entrepreneur who established the AI hardware startup Extropic in 2022. Like many members of the NRx, Verdon also desires Technocracy. There are notable similarities between Dark Enlightenment philosophy—if you can call it that—and the sociopolitical and socioeconomic theories inherent in Technocracy....

    Both the NRx and the technocrats believe that technology is the panacea for every problem and that society—whatever they might choose to call it—should be governed through the use of technology. Therefore, in today’s technological age, both the NRx and the modern technocrats advocate a form of government largely administered by artificial intelligence (AI).

    The NRx and the technocrats champion oligarchy—government by a small group of powerful people. The NRx posits that “realms” should be controlled by the CEO “TechnoKings” of a sovcorp, with the CEO of gov-corp apparently ruling the patchwork of realms. Similarly, technocrats think the Technate should be commanded by the “Continental Board” led by the “Continental Director.” Both the NRx and the technocrats want to remove all semblance of democratic oversight and establish technological oligarch-led dictatorships.

    The NRx and the technocrats consider humanity worthless and expendable. For technocrats, we are “human animals” to be trained or controlled like a dog or a vehicle. For the NRx we are the “unthinking demos” whose individual sovereignty should be treated “with derision.” The NRx would like to transform us into cyborgs so that we can be programmed and they want to psychologically imprison whomever they deem “undesirable” as “bee larva” waxed in a virtual cell. Modern technocrats, such as Musk, consider us meatsacks, nothing more than “a biological bootloader for digital superintelligence.”

    Verdon, alongside Nick Land and others, is considered among the patron saints of “Techno-Optimism” by leading NRx advocate and Silicon Valley oligarch Marc Andreessen. In 2023, he published the Techno-Optimist Manifesto. In his Manifesto, Andreessen wrote:

    We believe that there is no material problem — whether created by nature or by technology — that cannot be solved with more technology. [. . .] Combine technology and markets and you get what Nick Land has termed the techno-capital machine, the engine of perpetual material creation, growth, and abundance. [. . .] We believe in accelerationism — the conscious and deliberate propulsion of technological development. [. . .] We believe Artificial Intelligence is our alchemy, our Philosopher’s Stone.


    All NRx devotees, such as Andreessen, consider themselves accelerationists. They believe in the aggressive application of Joseph Schumpeter’s “Creative Destruction.” In his 1942 work Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy, Schumpeter described Creative Destruction as:

    The opening up of new markets, foreign or domestic, and the organizational development from the craft shop to such concerns as U.S. Steel illustrate the same process of industrial mutation—if I may use that biological term—that incessantly revolutionizes the economic structure from within, incessantly destroying the old one, incessantly creating a new one. This process of Creative Destruction is the essential fact about capitalism. [P. 83]


    Schumpeter was describing an effect of capitalism: the tendency for technology to revolutionise and destroy old markets by replacing them with new ones. Think how the terrestrial television and radio advertising markets have been replaced by the online digital advertising market.

    Schumpeter realised that this capitalist evolution of markets has wider social implications. As the leaders of large monopolies and dominant industries exert sociopolitical influence, Creative Destruction implies more than just a revolution of commercial activity. It shifts the sociopolitical and socioeconomic order too. Again, consider the waning influence of Television and the increasing influence of social media.

    Accelerationists like Andreessen and Thiel, adopting Land’s Dark Enlightenment, see Creative Destruction not just as an effect of capitalism but as a tool to propel the evolution of capitalism, rendering capitalism itself a controllable revolutionary force. They can achieve this, they assert, by investing in whatever they consider to be a disruptive technology with the potential to change society. In so doing, they believe they can manipulate and control the development of new sociopolitical and socioeconomic systems and bring us closer to being ruled by the corporate monarchy they wish to form.

    The “we” Andreessen refers to in his Techno Optimist Manifesto is a group consisting of Silicon Valley oligarchs—of which Andreessen is one—alongside Thiel, Musk, Sam Altman, Palmer Luckey, Larry Ellison, Joe Lonsdale, and David Sacks, etc. Joining them are a gaggle of NRx acolytes and aspiring oligarchs, like Balaji Srinivasan and Guillaume Verdon. Working together to shape the policies and initiatives of the current Trump administration, this core group is applying the Dark Enlightenment and installing Technocracy in the US. But the US isn’t the only nation-state undergoing such oligarch-led “transformation.”

    Though it is a stretch to call Land and Yarvin’s ramblings “philosophy,” we could say that the Dark Enlightenment provides the philosophical underpinning for the move to a system of city-states. Technocracy outlines the social control mechanism—the operating system of the city-state if you like—that will surveil and engineer our behaviour should we find ourselves trapped in one of their corporatised city realms: gov-corp Technates.

    The NRx technocrats’ ideas overlap with the blueprint already being implemented at the intergovernmental level by their senior globalist oligarch brethren—and they are overwhelmingly, though not exclusively, men. The global oligarchy wants to install a “Multipolar World Order” (MWO) as the final bureaucratic redesign of global governance prior to instigating firm global government—sometimes referred to as the New World Order—overseeing a patchwork of city-state realms.

    This may all read like very bold claims, but we’ll explore the evidence demonstrating the fact in these two articles.

    The Orbital Authority Sham

    Certainly leading NRx “thinker” Curtis Yarvin is fully onboard with a proposed system of global dictatorship ruling a patchwork of city-state realms: the ultimate gov-corp Technate. In his 2024 piece “The Orbital Authority,” Yarvin metaphorically argues, as is his want, that weaponising space will make all forms of terrestrial warfare redundant. He posits that air, sea, and land forces will be rendered “obsolete” by the “Orbital Authority” that controls space weaponry and directs warfare from orbit.

    Bear in mind that NRx technocrats like Yarvin view AI as their “philosopher’s stone”—symbolizing material and spiritual transformation. They disconnect AI from humanity and perceive it as a separate entity, as a “superintelligent” consciousness. In his article, Yarvin wrote:

    Mars, god of war, is the father of all things. Orbit is the ultimate high ground. When we conquer orbit [. . .] we have conquered the Earth. [. . .] The most important task of any weapons system is to defend itself. Not only could a 21st-century [orbital weapons system] defeat a nuclear first strike, it could defeat any attempt to defeat the system itself. It would serve as a launch denial system. It would destroy any previously unannounced launch—rendering orbit a monopoly.
    Evidently Yarvin envisages some sort of independent, autonomous, monopolistic AI “Orbital Authority.” Like the “father of all things” this weaponised superintelligence dominates the “ultimate high ground” to effectively conquer the Earth.

    Yarvin’s fellow NRx technocrat Nick Land has long argued that capitalism is a simulacrum for AI, by which he means a distinct “non-human” intelligence. Land came to this conclusion as a result of his unusual interpretation of one of the basic tenets of Austrian Economics.

    Formative Austrian Economist Friedrich Hayek observed that any market economy is an “information, processing system.” Austrian economists emphasise that individual actions and decisions drive markets and therefore, to a great extent, value is subjective (methodological individualism). Thus, for Austrian Economists, prices are the result of a decentralised information exchange at the whole capitalist economy scale.

    In 2011, shortly before he published the Dark Enlightenment, this led Land to conclude:

    What appears to humanity as the history of capitalism is an invasion from the future by an artificial intelligent space that must assemble itself entirely.
    Of course, this is not what Austrian Economists like Hayek argued. In their model, the information system is formed by price signals emanating from the needs and desires of individual human beings. Though the complexity of all signals in a large market economy is beyond the analysis of any one individual or bureaucracy (economic calculation problem), there is nothing “artificial” about it. The price system is not a separate self assembling entity, as Land wants to believe, but rather the product of human interactions. It is a distinctly “organic” system, for want of a better term.

    Sharing Land’s view that AI is, or will become, an independent entity beyond human intervention, in his 2024 article, Yarvin envisioned that “the Orbital Authority dominates, owns and controls the whole planet.” It is not difficult to appreciate that for Yarvin, Land and other NRx technocrats, “Orbital Authority” is a metaphor for ascendant, AI-controlled, automated and well-armed global governance systems.

    Advocates of the Dark Enlightenment have been developing AI weapons technology for decades. Thiel’s Palantir, for example, has seen its 2025 second quarter sales jump by 48% due, in part, to the success of its Lavender, Gospel, and “Where’s Daddy” AI targeting systems. These have been deployed, with Palantir’s assistance, by the Ukrainian and Israeli militaries.

    Because NRx technocrats like Musk, Land and Yarvin imagine AI to be a “superintelligence,” they present theories about the future of humanity that assume AI will inevitably become an independent, conscious entity that we will have no choice but to obey. They are certainly committed to engineering this future if they can.

    Yarvin’s figurative “god of war”—Orbital Authority—is a typical example of the circular reasoning frequently exhibited by NRx technocrats. They imbue AI with abilities it doesn’t possess and then advocate AI as a solution to humanity’s problems based upon their unfounded insistence that AI possesses said abilities.

    In truth, before we get to Self-Aware AI—which the NRx technocrats claim is inevitable—AI developers first have to overcome a whole range of tricky problems to achieve Theory of Mind AI. As Theory of Mind AI is currently purely hypothetical, the assumption that Self-Aware or Superintelligent AI is imminent is highly questionable, to say the least.

    Indeed, we might wonder how it is possible for NRx technocrats to program a computer algorithm to be conscious when, as yet, no human being can define consciousness. As highlighted in March 2024 by Professor Arthur T. Johnson:

    [A] sufficient definition of the nature of consciousness has not yet been satisfactorily established. How the brain conjures conscious awareness from the electrical activity of billions of individual nerve cells remains one of the great unanswered questions of life. And what this consciousness actually means is not easy to define. Trying to extend whatever is known about consciousness in living beings to an AGI [artificial generative intelligence] would be difficult, if not unreasonable, at this time.
    Ideologically, not rationally, setting AI as their “philosopher’s stone,” the NRx technocrats seek to establish an international “patchwork” of AI-managed “neostates,” though we can accurately refer to them as gov-corp Technates. This dispersed network, they contend, will decentralise and localise authority.

    Yarvin seemingly creates a paradox between decentralised authority and the absolute centralisation of all “Orbital Authority.” Such jarring contradictions are not uncommon for the NRx technocrats.

    Yarvin’s proposed Orbital Authority will ensure the “Patchwork” will flourish because military conflict between the city-states will become impotent, if not impossible, under the Orbital Authority’s watchful eye and its ability to destroy any aggressor. So, in Yarvin’s view, it matters not who controls the Orbital Authority, only that it exists.

    If you posit, as NRx technocrats do, that Orbital Authority—global government—will not be exercised by people but by the dispassionate logic of an AI “superintelligence,” then Orbital Authority is the great saviour protecting us from our own self-destructive urges. It is a “god” allowing us to decentralise into the Patchwork. Thus, sociopolitical decentralisation is enabled by the centralisation of all power and authority beyond humanity’s control.

    The metaphorical Orbital Authority for which Yarvin advocates is a sham concept and he admits as much in his own musings.

    Yarvin asks:

    Where does the Orbital Authority come from? Who creates this force? Who are the people who operate it? [. . .] All good questions. But this is one future I would want to live in.
    Yarvin likes the idea of a single, logical dictatorship ruling the Earth for no other reason than it fits with his own ambition to establish a worldwide structure of city-state realms. He essentially argues that a cohesive, overarching AI world order with the power to annihilate humanity will lead humanity to “flourish” in a network of “thousands of independent sovereign states and city-states.”

    Yarvin casually dismisses the “good questions” he asks. The question of “who creates” and thus controls the imagined Orbital Authority ruling the entire patchwork planet is, he insinuates, of secondary importance. Like all NRx technocrats, Yarvin wants us to accept the fundamental principle that dictatorship is good.

    NRx technocrat oligarchs, like Thiel and Musk, say they are opposed to any form of world government. Thiel claims he views world government to be the manifestation of the Antichrist. Nonetheless, the question of who rules is of primary importance to the global cartel of oligarchs who have, for generations, been plotting to establish themselves as unchallenged world rulers.

    If, as NRx technocrats proclaim, they wish to avert world government, it appears their efforts to establish a patchwork of city-state realms is a monumental miscalculation. So much so, that we might suspect the NRx technocrat’s protestations are a ruse. Their globalist oligarch partners have been trying to construct exactly the same city-state network for decades, precisely because it better facilitates global governance and, thereafter, the move to global government—Orbital Authority.

    In reality Thiel, Musk, Andreessen, and Sacks et al. are members of the same global oligarchy. Thiel and Palantir co-founder and CEO Alex Karp, for example, are on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group. Even the mainstream media concedes that the Bilderberg group has the authority to concentrate “control at the top of the Atlantic alliance [NATO].” A private oligarch network controlling NATO is approaching the Orbital Authority Yarvin imagines. Like Yarvin, it seems the mainstream media is only interested in the fact that private sector international authoritarianism exists, accepting its presence without question.

    In all likelihood, Yarvin, Land, Thiel, Musk and Andreessen, etc., know that AI is not a potentially independent, artificial god—though they pretend it is and that its arrival is unavoidable. Yarvin certainly seems to infer that AI is and will always be a technological tool controlled by human beings, some of whom have very specific agendas.

    As Yarvin reluctantly admits, the people who control his conceptualised “Orbital Authority” are not irrelevant. On the contrary, this is the key question that should concern us all..............



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    The basic idea of Patchwork is that, as the crappy governments we inherited from history are smashed, they should be replaced by a global spiderweb of tens, even hundreds, of thousands of sovereign and independent mini-countries, each governed by its own joint-stock corporation without regard to the residents’ opinions.

    Yes, of course they are.

    Do they have anything specific to say about the past, or just babbling as usual?

    Superficially, reversion towards the form of City-States may not be such a bad idea, just not that kind. Least of all technocratic corporations. Which means that is probably exactly what will be attempted. Certainly no one would ever allow an "Orbital Authority". However some of these people are so ridiculously rich that they *can* start putting together resources and actually do something that has a big effect. Their interest is to sell you something that keeps updating. At least that way you fail to enjoy what we already have. That way everything rots.

    Government has one legitimate purpose: to protect us from these private interests.

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    Always amazing... to see and hear some satire talk by both of them... Joanna and Michael!

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    I was reading about this girl at the time 1993 was raped by E and T .. it was article in Europe before 2000... as always I knew about this girl with alias name Katie, and I was placing this "stuff" year ago in this thread... now they are talking about this court document...

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    Very interesting talk about Trump... with Anne Elizabeth Applebaum.. she is an known American journalist and historian... she has written about the history of Communism and the development of civil society in Central and Eastern Europe... very interesting talk!


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    David Icke is spot on, as usual with his recent views on the current situation. I wholeheartedly agree with everything that he addressed here. He's consistent with his views regardless of political allegiances. Oftentimes to his detriment.

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    David Icke is spot on, as usual with his recent views on the current situation. I wholeheartedly agree with everything that he addressed here. He's consistent with his views regardless of political allegiances. Oftentimes to his detriment.
    It is always interesting (and a bit sad) to observe someone lose their moral reasoning. I have not always agreed with David, but I always believed he was travelling on the right path. When he began his journey down the Protocols of the Elders, he stepped into some sort of weird dimensional slipstream. He could still understand that powerful unseen forces were pulling the strings, but he no longer saw that he was being misled and manipulated. He is still on the right board, he is just moving the wrong pieces.

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