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    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    It sounds as though it's winter there. Maybe instead of having mangoes and celery - having a bone broth soup which would be much more warming. the ginger tea sounds like a good choice as it would have warmed you up. Hypothermia isn't good
    It's actually the 6-month equatorial summer, but the nights and early mornings are cold because of the clear cloudless skies where I live in the thin air at 9,000 ft.

    Right now at 8 am the room temperature here is still just 48ºF (9ºC), but I'm totally 100% fine, feeling nice and warm, and everything is all normal again. (Hot chocolate is clearly the remedy of remedies. )

    It'll be a hot day pretty soon (with off-the-scale UV levels), and my dog Mara and I will definitely be heading to the mountains again for a couple hours. No celery this time! Dried apricots instead, a much better, slowly-digestible energy treat.

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    Glad you’re ok Bill. I was gonna ask you if the hot chocolate had any medicinal purpose but you answered that.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Glad you’re ok Bill. I was gonna ask you if the hot chocolate had any medicinal purpose but you answered that.
    Thanks! And all's most definitely 100% fine. On our sunny hike today I felt fitter and stronger than I'd done in a long time.

    The very short-lived hypothermia thing was pretty weird. All I can think is that my internal thermostat just went wonky for a short while, somehow confused by my carb intake after the fast. But now I know that hot chocolate is such an instant fix, I'll be sure to reach for it again at even the slightest excuse!

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    Well, I've been fasting again. Last Oct. I got news I didn't want to hear and refused a biopsy. Did a lot praying and started a10 day water fast. Changed my diet to an alkalizing plant based diet...no sugar! or anything with it!
    My next DR. visit is in Sep. so hoping all my fasting and good healthy eating has had an effect on that bugger!
    I walk 3 miles a day with friends, do all my own housework and gardening. Got a frequency generator and red light therapy wrist band. Am taking loads of supplements plus RSO tabs.
    Been doing 20 min. of sun (when the sun shines here). So far have not tried Fenben/ Ivermectin /sour sop or urine therapy.
    My body seems to tolerate 5 days of water fasting with minimal complaints...so my regular practice is fasting 5 days every other week.
    The one good thing about my lifestyle is having to buy smaller clothes...and I am no longer considered obese.
    Life's good and I do really feel Blessed.
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    From Scott Crompton, who uses EVOO (Extra Virgin Olive Oil) to quell hunger pains in the initial stage of a fast. Also the importance of using electrolytes.

    https://www.facebook.com/scott.compt...2qiyoxO0Zkbnhs

    Snacking on your OWN FAT is the magic. Did you ever think of fasting in that way? Some of the main considerations during a longer fast is to keep electrolytes elevated. There's a process when the body switches over to SNACKING-ON-YOURSELF to be very mindful of...
    • Fat
    • Adipose
    • Strategic Targeting
    Roughly during the first 18 to 24 hours of fasting, the body depletes its glycogen stores, which are primarily held in the liver and muscles along with a significant amount of bound water—roughly three to four grams of water per gram of glycogen. As glycogen is broken down for energy, this stored water is released and excreted through urine, leading to a rapid drop in body weight and a noticeable reduction in puffiness or bloating, especially in the face, hands, and abdomen.

    At the same time, insulin and leptin levels fall sharply, prompting the kidneys to excrete excess sodium and, to a lesser extent, potassium to maintain fluid and electrolyte balance. This process, often called the "electrolyte drain," results in the loss of several grams of sodium and smaller amounts of potassium daily, which helps flush out retained fluid and contributes to the visible de-puffing many people experience as the body transitions from burning carbohydrates to burning fat.

    Once glycogen is mostly depleted, the body shifts into full-on fat-burning mode and begins producing ketones for fuel, marking the entry into early ketosis. The initial release of water and electrolytes can cause temporary symptoms like fatigue, headaches, muscle cramps, or dizziness if losses are not replenished. While the body gradually adapts to stabilize electrolyte handling over the following days, the early phase often feels most pronounced because of this combined water and salt excretion. Here is why people who have been doing fasts for decades (like myself) know to supplement with electrolytes—such as adding salt to water or consuming potassium-rich sources when appropriate—helps mitigate these effects and supports a smoother transition into sustained fat-burning without severe discomfort.

    On the water fast I'm doing now (literally water and electrolytes only), I'm altering it up a bit. I've obtained high polyphenol, early-harvest extra virgin organic olive oil from Crete that's on a grove that's from 100+ year old olive trees and packed in dark glass bottles. Part of the magic is the sunlight and how the olive tree is growing. About 2 to 3x per day, I'm adding a pinch of sea salt to about a tablespoon of olive oil to keep the electrolytes higher, but the olive oil's specific polyphenols sends a message to the body to target bodyfat as fuel. The olive oil, within a few minutes or even immediately, destroys the hunger signal from the ghrelin hormone. And taking the oil doesn't harm the fast in any way either... it does the opposite by enhancing the fast.

    Some people do an all-egg fast for many days or an all-sardine fast. I've also tried those and they work well too. Bone-broth fasts are also a thing. However, they all have the potential to disrupt the fast a bit to take away from body-fat burning, and there are other potential issues with sourcing. There's also an issue with potentially breaking the fast when eating eggs or sardines as it can stimulate too much of a hunger response and too much turning on of the digestive tract, so it can be hard to maintain the fast and make it closer to a real fast for deeper autophagy, cell repair, wound healing and other benefits. The main reason why most people have a harder time pushing through a fast are tied to these three factors:
    1. Very carb-heavy in lifestyle, so when trying to switch to fasting for a few days, there is very little metabolic flexibility (the changing of mitochondrial complex I to complex II).
    2. Lots of lethargy and feeling like all energy has drained from the body (electrolytes drain out and this brings down the person into a slump to need energy: aka food, to live normally).
    3. Ghrelin can swing out of hand and the hunger pangs can be so strong that it will break the fast; generally this is also tied to people being used to a higher carb-diet and higher insulin swings.
    In other words, I'm laying out here what I've personally experienced having done sooooo many types of fasts. So when a person eats lower-carb and/or ketogenetic, point #1 is addressed. When a person understands the electrolyte transition and is able to bring more electrolytes in during a fast, #2 is addressed. The last one is often the hardest, but the EVOO works to solve that for some that need it. And it's enhancing the fast rather than taking away from it.

    The sweetspot for a fast I've found is a 36 to 72 hour fast about once every few weeks. But I haven't done a prolonged fast for about a year. This one I'm currently on may turn into that. Instead of going about a day and half, I might push this one into a 5, 10 or even longer fast if my method works like I think it will past the 60 hour mark. Generally, for overall metabolic health, it makes sense to me to stick with about a 36 hour fast every one or two weeks (like from a Friday evening and eating again on Sunday). I think it makes more sense to do one weekly fast than a prolonged IF that's hitting 18 to 22 hours per day, like an OMAD approach. OMAD each and every day can be stressful to certain organ systems over longer periods of times, like the thyroid. Keep in mind what I laid out here with electrolyte draining past the 18 hour mark. Hitting the 36 hour mark gets us deeper healing and autophagy, which is arguably more powerful once per week than a regimen of constantly hitting the 18 to 22 hour mark every day.

    Generally, my week might look like 12 to 14 hours of daily fasting. Then one 24 to 36 hour fast once per week. About twice per year, I like to push a much longer fast into the 5 to 10 day period, unless I feel really good on that fast and extend it even longer. I've done several 12 to 15 day water fasts in the past. But I've never done them with EVOO, only water and electrolytes. At times, I'll use binders as well, as fat-liberation also releases toxins into the blood. Also, the liver likes to dump toxins as we sleep, so I'll often use a binder just before bed.
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    Thank you for a reminder... I am old.. nearly 80... and I was fasting two times per year... for a month... I am healthy woman... and I will do that again in march... you remind me to that... so thank you leavesoftrees!

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    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    From Scott Crompton who uses EVOO (Extra Virgin Olive Oil) to quell hunger pains in the initial stage of. a fast.
    Thanks — could you kindly post the link to the article?

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    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    From Scott Crompton who uses EVOO (Extra Virgin Olive Oil) to quell hunger pains in the initial stage of. a fast.
    Thanks — could you kindly post the link to the article?
    This is the link to his FB post

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/176CgV2QUZ/

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    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    From Scott Crompton who uses EVOO (Extra Virgin Olive Oil) to quell hunger pains in the initial stage of. a fast.
    Thanks — could you kindly post the link to the article?
    This is the link to his FB post

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/176CgV2QUZ/
    Many thanks — I very slightly edited the text in your post above for easier reading.

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