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    • Marjorie Greene’s Resignation SHAKES Political World:
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    A bulletpoint summary from DD Geopolitics of a new New York Times article about MTG. (The entire original article, a very long one, is archived here.)

    We have to bear in mind that this is the New York Times — whose political slant is well-known! — but it has to be possible that the article's content is accurate and credible.

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    ‘I Was Just So Naïve’: Inside Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Break With Trump

    How the Georgia congresswoman went from the president’s loudest cheerleader to his loudest Republican critic
    Marjorie Taylor Greene did an interview for the NYT — here are the main points:
    • The breaking point was Epstein. Marjorie Taylor Greene says her decisive split with Trump wasn’t about style or ego, but about his refusal to release all Epstein-related investigative material. She describes Epstein as the ultimate symbol of elite protection and systemic cover-ups.
    • Trump tried to stop it. After Greene pushed publicly for transparency and threatened to expose abusers tied to survivor testimony, she says Trump called her angrily and warned: “My friends will get hurt.” Greene presents this as Trump choosing to shield people in his orbit rather than side with victims.
    • Greene says Trump’s Epstein stance looks like self-protection. She explains that she initially accepted the narrative that Trump had cut ties with Epstein and that photos proved nothing by themselves. But once she heard victims directly and saw how hard the administration resisted disclosure, she concluded that the resistance itself was the red flag.
    • She broke MAGA discipline anyway. Greene teamed up with Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna to force a vote compelling DOJ disclosure — openly defying the White House and Republican leadership.
    • Retaliation followed. The NYT describes Trump publicly branding her “Marjorie ‘Traitor’ Green,” escalating personal attacks and dismissing her concerns even after threats were made against her family. Greene says this confirmed that loyalty inside MAGA is one-way.
    • Why the MAGA split matters. Greene frames her break as choosing victims over power and truth over movement loyalty, arguing that Epstein exposed the real limits of “drain the swamp” rhetoric when it threatens powerful insiders.

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    Default Re: Modern American Hero: Marjorie Taylor Greene

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A bulletpoint summary from DD Geopolitics of a new New York Times article about MTG. (The entire original article, a very long one, is archived here.)

    We have to bear in mind that this is the New York Times — whose political slant is well-known! — but it has to be possible that the article's content is accurate and credible.

    ~~~

    ‘I Was Just So Naïve’: Inside Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Break With Trump

    How the Georgia congresswoman went from the president’s loudest cheerleader to his loudest Republican critic
    Marjorie Taylor Greene did an interview for the NYT — here are the main points:
    • The breaking point was Epstein. Marjorie Taylor Greene says her decisive split with Trump wasn’t about style or ego, but about his refusal to release all Epstein-related investigative material. She describes Epstein as the ultimate symbol of elite protection and systemic cover-ups.
    • Trump tried to stop it. After Greene pushed publicly for transparency and threatened to expose abusers tied to survivor testimony, she says Trump called her angrily and warned: “My friends will get hurt.” Greene presents this as Trump choosing to shield people in his orbit rather than side with victims.
    • Greene says Trump’s Epstein stance looks like self-protection. She explains that she initially accepted the narrative that Trump had cut ties with Epstein and that photos proved nothing by themselves. But once she heard victims directly and saw how hard the administration resisted disclosure, she concluded that the resistance itself was the red flag.
    • She broke MAGA discipline anyway. Greene teamed up with Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna to force a vote compelling DOJ disclosure — openly defying the White House and Republican leadership.
    • Retaliation followed. The NYT describes Trump publicly branding her “Marjorie ‘Traitor’ Green,” escalating personal attacks and dismissing her concerns even after threats were made against her family. Greene says this confirmed that loyalty inside MAGA is one-way.
    • Why the MAGA split matters. Greene frames her break as choosing victims over power and truth over movement loyalty, arguing that Epstein exposed the real limits of “drain the swamp” rhetoric when it threatens powerful insiders.
    Bill, the NYTimes broke neutrality and crossed over the divide a long time ago, especially when it comes to political news. They are permanently committed to spreading their hatred for Trump as far and wide as possible. They are also doing everything in their power to remove him from office, regardless of the truth. The NYTimes was once considered the flagship for American news is now nothing more than an agenda-driven propaganda factory.

    I suppose it is possible, but I find it extremely unlikely that MTG had an epiphany after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. She was somehow awe-struck with the realization that she needed to be more Christ-like and that the Epstein files represented all the horrors of the world. (I don't buy it) I suppose it is possible that she put the President of the USA on the speaker phone for the entire office to hear when he shouted that "exposing the Epstein files will hurt my friends." I find it suspect that not one person in the office has come forward or has been identified. (I don't buy it). It's extremely difficult to believe that Trump was genuinely concerned about his friends. It would be much more plausible to think that she claimed Trump told her to go to hell, dropped a few F-bombs and other choice words. The idea that Trump was worried about his friends simply doesn't seem convincing; it is almost ridiculous.

    The Epstein files, I believe, are a false pretext for explaining Marjorie Taylor Greene's disagreement with Donald Trump. Their falling out stems from her views on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. Trump has consistently expressed strong support for Israel, while Greene has aligned with progressive voices advocating for Gaza, opposing the bombing of Iran, and she has quietly voiced opposition to the Abraham Accords. Peace in the Middle East is not on her agenda, which makes her real intentions suspect. When mainstream media begin to promote and defend one of their all-time favorite adversaries, it suggests that the public is being manipulated. The media's underlying goal, as it has been for some time now, is advancing socialist and Marxist ideologies and to do that effectively, it necessitates the removal of Donald Trump from office.

    I took a look at DD Geopolitics and they seem a bit supsect especially Sarah Bils.

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    and if I may... ..... this was my reply to Rizotto's post in the other thread..........that I wrote a few minutes ago...about MTG

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    or she is revealing who she really is......?

    that was a vicious attack - delivered in a deceivingly sweet and innocent way - the Epstein Files have turned out to be a big confused mess...not least with them being in the hands of the Biden Administration for years - Comey's lawyer daughter more specifically, we have been told...

    Couldn't MTG have waited a while before pressing for what she wants..? - then turning spiteful because she didn't get it..

    Trump is working deep in the belly of the monster and has to juggle many aspects of government to try and reverse the destruction of America - (and by association the West ) .... it's not an easy task and in a way he's walking a tightrope over shark infested waters... what a pity MTG has turned into a shark - but maybe Trump knows more than we do about why he dubbed her Marjorie Traitor Green - could she have been a plant all along waiting for the moment to make an attack on Trump...? I presume infiltrators have to lie real low sometimes for long periods of time before they are required to break cover and 'do something'....

    maybe she's just got carried away - but attacking Trump like that is not going to help America... of course he's not above criticism BUT there's something about this whole MTG thing and now this unbridled attack that doesn't feel right to me - not as straightforward as we are led to believe... (?)

    At the end of the day - the Epstein victims would have been better served (IMO) if MTG had waited a while instead of insisting they be dragged into the limelight and potentially used as tools in political games when the stakes are so high... look what happened to Victoria Giuffre...

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    Marjorie Taylor Greene is no longer in Congress, and if she doesn't go quietly into the night then I suspect she is looking for a new political career, and is simply a self-serving politician. Trump has so much on his plate, and if she and others can't see all that he is trying to accomplish in his last term, then they are simply shallow people.

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    Default Re: Modern American Hero: Marjorie Taylor Greene

    MTG is on live with Redacted right now, talking about the Epstein files debacle.


    Edit to add:

    VERY powerful. She's integrity personified. I'll post the standalone segment as soon as Redacted publishes it, probably tomorrow.
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    Default Re: Modern American Hero: Marjorie Taylor Greene

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    MTG is on live with Redacted right now, talking about the Epstein files debacle.


    Edit to add:

    VERY powerful. She's integrity personified. I'll post the standalone segment as soon as Redacted publishes it, probably tomorrow.
    Just watched this and I am very impressed with MGTs political positions which are heavily Libertarian leaning. I tend to resonate with many Libertarians, Ron Paul et al. What I'm struggling to understand is why are Maga supporters the only ones that seem to be against releasing the Epstein files, all of them? It's what Maga supporters were saying all along, and now It's either silence or outright hostility, that is directed at release advocates.

    Another critical issue MTG discussed was the fact that the DOJ is corrupted and is totally controlled by the Whitehouse as well as the other key checks and balances in US government. That fact is nearly more disturbing than the known contents of the Epstein files 😳

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    VERY powerful. She's integrity personified. I'll post the standalone segment as soon as Redacted publishes it.
    Here it is: (34 minutes)


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    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    MTG is on live with Redacted right now, talking about the Epstein files debacle.


    Edit to add:

    VERY powerful. She's integrity personified. I'll post the standalone segment as soon as Redacted publishes it, probably tomorrow.
    Just watched this and I am very impressed with MGTs political positions which are heavily Libertarian leaning. I tend to resonate with many Libertarians, Ron Paul et al. What I'm struggling to understand is why are Maga supporters the only ones that seem to be against releasing the Epstein files, all of them? It's what Maga supporters were saying all along, and now It's either silence or outright hostility, that is directed at release advocates.

    Another critical issue MTG discussed was the fact that the DOJ is corrupted and is totally controlled by the Whitehouse as well as the other key checks and balances in US government. That fact is nearly more disturbing than the known contents of the Epstein files 😳
    Regarding your question as to "why are Maga supporters the only ones that seem to be against releasing the Epstein files." MTG did not say anything like that in the video. In fact MAGA supporters, i.e. the people, have clearly demanded the release of the Epstein files, but feel betrayed by Trump's claim that 'the files don't exist, it's a democrat hoax'.

    In the above video MTG mentions that it is Trump himself and many (if not most) Republican congress members who are the ones who didn't want the files released.

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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    MTG is on live with Redacted right now, talking about the Epstein files debacle.


    Edit to add:

    VERY powerful. She's integrity personified. I'll post the standalone segment as soon as Redacted publishes it, probably tomorrow.
    Just watched this and I am very impressed with MGTs political positions which are heavily Libertarian leaning. I tend to resonate with many Libertarians, Ron Paul et al. What I'm struggling to understand is why are Maga supporters the only ones that seem to be against releasing the Epstein files, all of them? It's what Maga supporters were saying all along, and now It's either silence or outright hostility, that is directed at release advocates.

    Another critical issue MTG discussed was the fact that the DOJ is corrupted and is totally controlled by the Whitehouse as well as the other key checks and balances in US government. That fact is nearly more disturbing than the known contents of the Epstein files 😳
    Regarding your question as to "why are Maga supporters the only ones that seem to be against releasing the Epstein files." MTG did not say anything like that in the video. In fact MAGA supporters, i.e. the people, have clearly demanded the release of the Epstein files, but feel betrayed by Trump's claim that 'the files don't exist, it's a democrat hoax'.

    In the above video MTG mentions that it is Trump himself and many (if not most) Republican congress members who are the ones who didn't want the files released.
    If Trump and most of the Republicans who support him aren't Maga, then who is? If it's not a democratic Hoax, then what is it 🤔

    To be clear. You won't find a single left wing politician or online content creator not calling for the total release of the Epstein files. However, there's a number of Maga supporters who still support Trump, despite him blatantly trying to suppress their release, for whatever reason. That's the main point of my confusion. Your reply leaves me further confused.

    I believe that we agree that Anyone trying to suppress the total release of unredacted files (except for victims identities) is protecting pdfiles, and should be prosecuted in accordance with the law?

    In my opinion there's a huge difference between being "feeling betrayed" and demanding that these pdfiles, all of them, face justice and punishment!
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    Default Re: Modern American Hero: Marjorie Taylor Greene

    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    MTG is on live with Redacted right now, talking about the Epstein files debacle.


    Edit to add:

    VERY powerful. She's integrity personified. I'll post the standalone segment as soon as Redacted publishes it, probably tomorrow.
    Just watched this and I am very impressed with MGTs political positions which are heavily Libertarian leaning. I tend to resonate with many Libertarians, Ron Paul et al. What I'm struggling to understand is why are Maga supporters the only ones that seem to be against releasing the Epstein files, all of them? It's what Maga supporters were saying all along, and now It's either silence or outright hostility, that is directed at release advocates.

    Another critical issue MTG discussed was the fact that the DOJ is corrupted and is totally controlled by the Whitehouse as well as the other key checks and balances in US government. That fact is nearly more disturbing than the known contents of the Epstein files 😳
    In my opinion, I do not think Trump has culpable--or criminal--involvement in any of the Epstein crimes. I know others will disagree; I just don't see the evidence. I'm not one prone to believe "just because I don't like Trump". That said, there are likely some embarrassing revelations for Trump in the files, not unlike his infamous "I grab 'em by the p*ssy" comments that surfaced on the eve of the 2016 election, which his detractors could and would amplify, twist, and distract to impede his administration's modus operandi over the remainder of his term, similar to the "Russia/Russia/Russia" charges fabricated against him during his first term. There are millions--perhaps half of the world--just waiting to hear exactly what they want to hear, regardless of the veracity or credibility of such claims. These developments would consume the rest of Trump's term and block his agenda, which of course is the standing objective of his detractors in the first place.

    In other words, the Epstein files are the perfect weapon to wage against Trump where Grab 'em By the P*ssy failed, where the Tax-Dodging Scandal failed, where RussiaGate failed, and where many, many other fabricated smears failed. It doesn't matter whether true or not. This is ultimately what is behind Trump's (lame) attempts at dismissing Epstein allegations as "a hoax." And this may be why hard-core MAGA supporters are willing to turn a blind eye to Trump's actions, because they understand it's a losing battle.

    The other motivation not to expose the Epstein crimes, it seems to me, may be because doing so would pose an existential threat to National Security. Literally. At least this may be what Trump's ill-advised advisors are telling him. Aside from dealing with some arrows that may come his way from "embarrassing photos" or "comments" that may be difficult to explain, full transparency--and prosecuting all culpable--would very likely bring down the entire US government (both parties and all branches of government), Supreme Court justices, majority of Congress, and threaten the very fabric of global stability. The global economy would crash, the dollar would crash, citizens would lose all faith in government and once-trusted institutions, stop paying taxes, and the world would be thrown into Mad-Max turmoil. At least that is what Trump's advisors (conveniently--who are likely all culpable to some degree) are advising. Trump's ego resonates as a "fixer", a "builder", not a "destroyer". Simply, he doesn't want the destruction of world stability to be his legacy. He wants the stock market to hit record highs, a fresh new class of millionaires created, energy costs and cost-of-living to dip to record lows, and ultimately, to be known as the President who Made America Great Again.

    All said, the above analysis is just my opinion. I don't know. It is also my opinion that continuing to run cover will utterly blow up on Trump--and his Administration. May justice be done and the heavens fall. The majority of Americans want this information released and they want the perpetrators held fully accountable. The majority of people, regardless of party affiliation, want faith restored in their government and want faith restored in their trusted institutions. If Trump does not embrace these directives, from the people, Republicans will lose the midterms, in both houses, and the Democrat-led government will stack the Supreme Court, impeach Trump, and brutally persecute and prosecute him, his entire family, and his most ardent supporters. Examples will be set. If the civil-war doesn't happen by then, it most certainly will happen circa 2026-2027 with a Democrat-led government hell-bent on imprisioning their political enemies and squelching any opposition/populist movements.

    Welcome to Mad-Max, regardless. Yes, Trump may be over his head on this one.
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    In my opinion, I do not think Trump has culpable--or criminal--involvement in any of the Epstein crimes. I know others will disagree; I just don't see the evidence. I'm not one prone to believe "just because I don't like Trump". That said, there are likely some embarrassing revelations for Trump in the files, not unlike his infamous "I grab 'em by the p*ssy" comments that surfaced on the eve of the 2016 election, which his detractors could and would amplify, twist, and distract to impede his administration's modus operandi over the remainder of his term, similar to the "Russia/Russia/Russia" charges fabricated against him during his first term. There are millions--perhaps half of the world--just waiting to hear exactly what they want to hear, regardless of the veracity or credibility of such claims. These developments would consume the rest of Trump's term and block his agenda, which of course is the standing objective of his detractors in the first place.

    In other words, the Epstein files are the perfect weapon to wage against Trump where Grab 'em By the P*ssy failed, where the Tax-Dodging Scandal failed, where RussiaGate failed, and where many, many other fabricated smears failed. It doesn't matter whether true or not. This is ultimately what is behind Trump's (lame) attempts at dismissing Epstein allegations as "a hoax." And this may be why hard-core MAGA supporters are willing to turn a blind eye to Trump's actions, because they understand it's a losing battle.

    The other motivation not to expose the Epstein crimes, it seems to me, may be because doing so would pose an existential threat to National Security. Literally. At least this may be what Trump's ill-advised advisors are telling him. Aside from dealing with some arrows that may come his way from "embarrassing photos" or "comments" that may be difficult to explain, full transparency--and prosecuting all culpable--would very likely bring down the entire US government (both parties and all branches of government), Supreme Court justices, majority of Congress, and threaten the very fabric of global stability. The global economy would crash, the dollar would crash, citizens would lose all faith in government and once-trusted institutions, stop paying taxes, and the world would be thrown into Mad-Max turmoil. At least that is what Trump's advisors (conveniently--who are likely all culpable to some degree) are advising. Trump's ego resonates as a "fixer", a "builder", not a "destroyer". Simply, he doesn't want the destruction of world stability to be his legacy. He wants the stock market to hit record highs, a fresh new class of millionaires created, energy costs and cost-of-living to dip to record lows, and ultimately, to be known as the President who Made America Great Again.

    All said, the above analysis is just my opinion. I don't know. It is also my opinion that continuing to run cover will utterly blow up on Trump--and his Administration. May justice be done and the heavens fall. The majority of Americans want this information released and they want the perpetrators held fully accountable. The majority of people, regardless of party affiliation, want faith restored in their government and want faith restored in their trusted institutions. If Trump doesn't not embrace these directives, from the people, Republicans will lose the midterms, in both houses, and the Democrat-led government will stack the Supreme Court, impeach Trump, and brutally persecute and prosecute Trump, his entire family, and his most ardent supporters. Examples will be set. If the civil-war doesn't happen by then, it most certainly will happen circa 2026-2027 with a Democrat-led government hell-bent on squelching any populist movements.

    Welcome to Mad-Max, regardless. Yes, Trump may be over his head on this one.

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    I can take on board and agree with everything you have said....

    Plausible deniability is fast going out of the window - I am mentally scarred by some things I heard on Infowars - about the Epstein 'files' - that have been revealed via released emails - It's not the first time (being mentally scarred) and it, no doubt, won't be the last - and one does kind of recover from it over a period of time - I'm not going to repeat any of it here but Alex Jones said it had been verified as a genuine - I don't know how they do that but I do trust Alex on these matters -

    he doesn't want to talk about the details regarding pure evil but he concluded that he has to or people have no idea of the depth of the depravity and the depth of the problem facing America, the West and the World- some things just cannot be swept under the carpet and I think Trump needs to get used to that idea....that it can't be swept under the carpet and everything go 'back to business' -

    Sure, of course he wants to carry on with all his plans as a 'fixer' and a 'builder' but 'they' have him over a barrel over this - they had him over a barrel with the whole Covid 'Thing' - but he just about managed to out manoeuvre 'them' - - -just - - -but then the 2020 election was rigged and he lost the Presidency - but THIS - THIS is in another league -

    But I digress a bit.....

    You said....'Trump may be over his head with this one' - and I agree....but he HAS to get to grips with it -

    IMO he has no choice now and needs to give over quite a lot of time and attention to it leading up to the Mid Term Elections - actually make it a big part of the Election Campaign - make a major speech about it and address the Nation (and World) - put together a top team of legal people, who aren't corrupted or financed by the 'Soros' (front man) globalist elite's agenda... he needs to get on top of this - he has no choice now -

    Oh I don't know exactly how he can do that - but I do think that he must - or see the collapse of everything he has achieved so far...and all his plans for saving America turn to dust...

    As I said.... a major speech tackling the 'problem' head on - might have to be the first step -

    ???

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    It’s my opinion that Donald Trump had no idea of the full horrors contained in the Epstein files or he wouldn’t have promised their release in the first place. This also indicates that he knows there’s nothing detrimental on him for the same reason and in a recent video Cathy O’Brien talks very warmly about DT.

    The CIA/FBI have had a long time to destroy the content of these files, so it does make you wonder what was in the files that WERE destroyed as it’s unthinkable that there aren’t any. On the other hand, is any file ever really destroyed when it might come in handy at a future date. We’re not dealing with honourable people here after all.
    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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