The Possibility of Famine

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Friends, I decided to start this new thread knowing full-well that we already have this most interesting one, which has run to 10 pages:

• Manufactured Food Shortages (Eradication of Our Food Supply)

But what may be about to unfold now would be of a completely different order of magnitude. To start the discussion, I'd like to post this new video, a conversation that Mike Adams had with Michael Yon (who is rarely wrong about anything) on Infowars yesterday.

https://www.brighteon.com/208c610d-6...a-d62ecb938ee7

Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/208c610d-6aa7-43b4-a03a-d62ecb938ee7

We're not there yet, because more large facilities would have to be destroyed in the Gulf region for all this to fully collapse. But no-one can deny that this might indeed happen.

I'd also like to cite another factor in this. David Icke was on Redacted again a couple days ago. However, I'd written here a few hours before that program went live:

Whoever is advising/controlling Trump may have consciously decided not only to bring down the global economy but maybe also Israel and the US itself.

David Icke fully agreed, explaining that the current Iran war has been long in the planning, and that Trump is just a relative puppet in this to trigger it all and get the whole thing going. (Whether egged on by Israel or not is beside the point in this bigger picture.) It's well worth listening to:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BTreZX0VARA

David Icke never mentioned famine. But readers with very long memories may recall that back in 2010 I was explicitly told that the long term strategic plan of the global controllers was to usher in a major famine. I parked that notion and never forgot it, but as the years passed it seemed to me to be increasingly unlikely to transpire.

Now, very suddenly, that may be exactly what could happen. If this is the hypothesis, the test is to see if the other major oil and gas facilities in the Gulf really ARE destroyed.

If they are — and we may know within a few weeks, maybe even days — then it means that all this is deliberate and carefully planned. Every part of it.

If a major global famine is indeed in store, the plan (I was told) was the following:

1. Billions would die.
2. Only the most able, most aware, most resilient and most well-prepared would make it through.
3. After all this, by eugenic 'natural selection' (a) the human population would be greatly reduced, (b) the survivors would be much easier to control and corral, and (c) the resulting human genetic quality would be raised.
   
   David Icke and Michael Yon both refer to incoming AI control and/or human-AI integration, but I was never told that part.

Once more: the test of this may be the extent to which the oil and gas facilities in the Gulf are further destroyed. We're soon likely to know. The problem, at the current day-to-day level, is that the war is now pretty much out of anyone's clear control and therefore anything at all could happen.

[shaberon]

That's deep.

Yes of course a 15-25% gouge will have terrible repercussions, but, again, in total this is under the paradigm of Peak Oil. It's inevitable. I am aware that I exist only for two reasons -- cheap oil and the possibility of avoiding Vietnam War conscription.

The Cuban plan is the only way out. Only low-tech is truly reliable.

If you do that, you are out of control, so the plan may be nonsense. Nevertheless, unprepared, you're going to bite the dust.

In the current scenario, there will be notches of pain before an ultra-famine affects those who will still be able to get fuel. It would be best if there is a lot of seeing-through the dictatorial insanity and removal of its apparatus, and really the UK is not in charge of anything...the Sino-Russian bridge is at least the most resilient thing against it. I won't go so far as to claim British delirium has been Russian the whole time. Just that a long-term process is more avoidable than that which is done by missiles and bombs.

[Inversion]

Within the first ten minutes of the first video in post one he said a foreign ship was allowed to pass through the Strait of Hormuz if they traded in Chinese Yuan making this a choreographed blackmail event to snuff the petrodollar. A couple of decades ago the late Dr. Bill Deagle said World War three would start when the Strait of Hormuz is closed.

3 World Wars Planned by Illuminati Albert Pike in 1871! Everything About NWO!

World War Three

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Vatican coin anagrams to Vaccination which shows premeditation. The person depicted on the coin is pointed at the ZERO which could be their goal for world population.
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[Inversion]

The crews will have to abandon the ships just to get food and water.

Marine Vessel Traffic

Hal Turner Radio Show

3,200 ships are TRAPPED in the Persian Gulf right now. Crews are running out of drinking water.

One ship called the local port authority and BEGGED for permission to dock — just to get water.

They were DENIED. Let that sink in.

These aren't military ships. These are commercial vessels — carrying oil, grain, electronics — with civilian crews who are now stranded with NO supplies and NO way out.

– 3,200 ships STUCK
– Crews running out of WATER
– Port authorities REFUSING tolet them dock
– Multiple ships reporting the SAME situation
For context — the Suez Canal crisis in 2021 blocked 400 ships. This is EIGHT TIMES worse. And nobody is talking about it.

They're showing you missile interceptions and oil price charts.

They're NOT showing you thousands of crew members slowly running out of drinking water in the middle of a war zone.

If these ships start getting abandoned, the environmental disaster alone would be catastrophic. Thousands of tons of fuel, cargo, chemicals — just sitting there.

This is not a shipping disruption. This is a HUMANITARIAN CRISIS unfolding in real time.

[JackMcThorn]

Posted by Inversion (here)
The crews will have to abandon the ships just to get food and water.

Ships have 'water makers' in the form of desalination machines [sometimes reverse osmosis filtration] but they typically are not operated in port because in port water is filthy compared to at-sea water which places more wear and tear on equipment. I have a feeling this event will be filed under 'unintended consequences'.

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India will tell you as a nation to be 'self-sufficient' as they learned the hard way. Do not rely on outside countries to your own detriment. A posture emphasized by Gandhi.

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And I got to say, I am surprised at the efficiency of the Iranian navy, which Trump says is sunk at the manner in which they control the strait. If they are sunk, why is traffic stopped?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Inversion (here)
The crews will have to abandon the ships just to get food and water.

Marine Vessel Traffic

Hal Turner Radio Show

3,200 ships are TRAPPED in the Persian Gulf right now. Crews are running out of drinking water.

One ship called the local port authority and BEGGED for permission to dock — just to get water.

They were DENIED. Let that sink in.

Sounds like they may have asked an Iranian port. But all ships in the Persian Gulf (depending which side of the Strait of Hormuz they're in) have access to ports in the Gulf states of Oman, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and/or Kuwait. It's really not an issue.

[Bill Ryan]

For anyone who's interested in the finer potential detail of all this (and who also has the time!), this is a longer Mike Adams video that includes the Michael Yon segment in my first post. The first two and a half hours are relevant to the thread.

https://www.brighteon.com/85261d1a-d...2-b75116b0f5b4

WAR is the Cover Story to Destroy the Energy Infrastructure that Feeds Half the World

Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/85261d1a-deb8-4c69-b372-b75116b0f5b4

- Introduction and Overview of the Show (0:10)
- Impact of Natural Gas Infrastructure Destruction (0:52)
- China's Fertilizer Export Restrictions (2:51)
- Detailed Analysis of the Chart (5:47)
- Historical Context and Chemistry of the Haber Bosch Process (7:34)
- Global Dependence on Natural Gas and Fertilizer (25:34)
- Potential Consequences of the War (35:06)
- Preparation and Survival Strategies (52:18)
- Final Thoughts and Call to Action (54:29)
- Energy Crisis and Global Impact (56:28)
- Escalation and Global Consequences (1:32:09)
- Strategic Implications and Alliances (1:35:12)
- Military and Political Dynamics (1:52:00)
- Engineered Global Famine (1:52:17)
- Impact on Specific Countries (1:54:54)
- Environmental and Health Concerns (2:18:24)

- Pet Health and Lifestyle (2:28:27)
- Alternative Treatments and Prevention (2:28:42)
- Final Thoughts and Recommendations (2:36:58)
- Discussion on Pet Health and Supplements (2:37:52)
- Gratitude and Future Plans (2:39:33)
- Survival Supplies and Preparedness (2:40:41)
- Supporting Platforms and Final Remarks (2:42:10)

[Szymon]

Since the start of the war, I've been getting into hydroponics. I will start a new thread for this in the appropriate sub-forum. I'm still waiting on a few bits and pieces to arrive from couriers and overseas from China. The most important part is getting hold of the fertiliser.

[Jaak]

Things do might move in to that direction which is very troublesome.
One of the ¨breadbaskets¨ called Ukraine got destroyed and Russia seems to be also taking steps in that direction.
Shortage of oil and gas coming soon ?
I have seen all the Mad Max movies , im kind of prepared

Just joking ...

But planting some of your owns crops might be awesome idea in near future . Spring is almost here and its almost time to plant ...

[Mike Gorman]

All very concerning, it is wise to keep an eye on the Macro dimension of this massive upheaval we are witnessing: Bill isn't it uncanny about your 2010 contact with the City of London planning event where all of this seemed to be plotted out-"China catching a cold" I recall as being a trigger point - as we know even the best laid plans (of Mice & Men) can oft go astray, but the planned qualities of this first move (they had such a well structured procedure for fomenting fear & the solution at hand) are unmistakable, this is not just an organic consequence of the usual bumble & chaos of our species, even the most prosaically minded & cynical among us can see this?
Always we have to focus on the practicalities for us all - it is well & good to be aware of "THEM" & their diabolical plans, I never trivialize the value of intelligence, analysis, BUT look after yourselves, Yes grow some vegetables in whatever patch of ground you have (remove the lawn!) I think it is now time to face the prospects of 'ordinary life' breaking down, I sense they mean us no good - we are expendable to these creatures, we do not panic, we keep our wits about us & quietly prepare for the worst even if we also hope for the best: become as self sufficient as it is possible to become. good luck everyone, I think we are entering truly unknown territory.

[Rizotto]

However, THEY (i.e. the 'transnational cabal' for lack of a better word) couldn't do much without these armies of foot soldiers who just obey orders without question, even orders that anyone with 2 brain cells could see will eventually be harmful to these foot soldiers themselves, their families and communities. That has long been unexplainable to me.

During the covid lockdowns I'll never forgot that scene that made the news here in Canada: Police taking down a 21 year old man who'd gone outdoors to play hockey on the local ice rink. They wouldn't allow this boy to do this most healthy activity outdoors because of the new covid 'health laws'. Because the boy was too fast for them to catch on the ice rink (he had skates, the officers didn't) several officers joined forces to tackle the boy down, and they even used a taser gun on this boy. All for health's sake. When you have a police force sinking down to this level of violent stupidity, we should be worried.

If there's any possibility of stopping the current unleashing of the planned armageddon, it would have to come from a critical mass of foot soldiers waking up and refusing to 'obey orders'.

What are the chances of this happening?

[Bruce G Charlton]

I regard the death of billions as an explicit strategic plan for a significant and powerful element in those with the greatest power in the world. I suspect that the genetic modifications involved in making Covid - and its release and rapid amplification by international travel - was intended to begin this cull in what was intended to be a deniable and controllable way; as was the injection of a couple of billion (?) with a dangerous not-vax.

But these plans did not accomplish their massively lethal goals, because neither was sufficiently harmful.

Mainly because of the colossal degree of dishonesty and incompetence that have by-now destroyed real science. So the world leaders really believed when "scientists" claimed that Covid had been engineered to be Both highly lethal and highly infectious, and that it Would spread globally in a sustained fashion. However this combination is very difficult to achieve by genetic engineering, indeed it never has been achieved - because of natural selection on microorganisms. HIghly infectious diseases aren't very lethal, and highly lethal diseases either aren't very infectious or else burn-out without spreading widely.

(The exceptions are "vector" diseases like Falciparum malaria or the bubonic plague, when humans are not the only hosts; so that the human population can be completely wiped out and the disease can still survive.)

I think it is being discovered that such relatively subtle and in principle controllable technological "fixes" are all failing to deliver; therefore those who intend to cull billions are (and will increasingly, I suggest) resorting to old-fashioned, much cruder, methods of killing people in very large numbers: starvation, violence, and more lethal forms of poisoning - after which death by genuinely lethal infectious diseases will happen spontaneously.

[Rizotto]

They're already talking about reducing energy consumption for the general population...
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1102686282014308

[Jaak]

Seems to fit the topic

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Tarric Brooker aka Avid Commentator 🇦🇺

"Australia's largest ammonia plant will be shut for two months to repair damage caused by a power outage, amidst a global supply crunch for the vital fertiliser and explosives ingredient."

We have a problem.

https://x.com/AvidCommentator/status...90959487820144

https://www.boilingcold.com.au/glitc...st-maker-of-v/

Australia's top fertiliser input plant shuts for 2 months
Peter Milne

Australia's largest ammonia plant will be shut for two months to repair damage caused by a power outage, amidst a global supply crunch for the vital fertiliser and explosives ingredient.

More than a quarter of the world's traded ammonia flows through the Strait of Hormuz, as do 43 per cent of urea shipments - the fertiliser made from ammonia.

That flow has been cut to a trickle since the United States and Israel attacked Iran, as have vital gas supplies, causing fertiliser plants in India to shut.

Yara's Pilbara plant, which uses gas to produce 850,000 tonnes of ammonia a year, suffered a power outage last week, damaging equipment.

A spokesman for the Norwegian company said workers and the environment were unaffected, and initial assessments indicated repairs could take about two months.

"Yara well understands the importance of its products to customers and will work to bring the operations back online as soon as practical," he said.

An adjacent plant, half-owned by Australia's Orica, uses 140,000 tonnes of the ammonia to make the explosive technical ammonium nitrate (TAN) for WA's mining sector.

The remaining ammonia is shipped to Australian and international customers, and much of it is used to make urea fertiliser.

Alcoa lied about jarrah forest rehabilitation: ad watchdog
The Ad Standards decision has demolished a key plank of the US miner’s expensive campaign to win public support for expanded mining in WA.
The shutdown could not have come at a worse time for Australia's farmers, who last year imported 1.2 million tonnes of urea in April and May for use before or shortly after seeding. Three-quarters came from the Gulf nations, where shipping is now severely curtailed after the United States and Israel attacked Iran.

Mining relies on explosives

Australia's largest export could also be affected.

For the next two months, WA's iron ore miners no longer have 330,000 tonnes a year of TAN produced on their doorstep. The explosive is used in vast quantities to blast rock so it can be collected, crushed and shipped to port.

The degree of disruption to production, if any, will depend on the stocks of TAN the miners hold and whether they can source other supplies at short notice.

Wesfarmers subsidiary CSBP runs WA's second-largest ammonia plant in Kwinana near Perth. CSBP uses Kwinana's 255,000 tonnes a year output and additional imported ammonia to make ammonium nitrate for fertilisers and explosives.

CSBP would not say if any of its imported ammonia came from Yara.

"It is standard business practice for us to continually monitor and manage our supply chain to ensure we meet customer demand," a company spokeswoman said.

[Szymon]

Posted by Jaak (here)
Seems to fit the topic

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Tarric Brooker aka Avid Commentator 🇦🇺

"Australia's largest ammonia plant will be shut for two months to repair damage caused by a power outage, amidst a global supply crunch for the vital fertiliser and explosives ingredient."

We have a problem.

https://x.com/AvidCommentator/status...90959487820144

https://www.boilingcold.com.au/glitc...st-maker-of-v/

Australia's top fertiliser input plant shuts for 2 months
Peter Milne

Australia's largest ammonia plant will be shut for two months to repair damage caused by a power outage, amidst a global supply crunch for the vital fertiliser and explosives ingredient.

More than a quarter of the world's traded ammonia flows through the Strait of Hormuz, as do 43 per cent of urea shipments - the fertiliser made from ammonia.

That flow has been cut to a trickle since the United States and Israel attacked Iran, as have vital gas supplies, causing fertiliser plants in India to shut.

Yara's Pilbara plant, which uses gas to produce 850,000 tonnes of ammonia a year, suffered a power outage last week, damaging equipment.

A spokesman for the Norwegian company said workers and the environment were unaffected, and initial assessments indicated repairs could take about two months.

"Yara well understands the importance of its products to customers and will work to bring the operations back online as soon as practical," he said.

An adjacent plant, half-owned by Australia's Orica, uses 140,000 tonnes of the ammonia to make the explosive technical ammonium nitrate (TAN) for WA's mining sector.

The remaining ammonia is shipped to Australian and international customers, and much of it is used to make urea fertiliser.

Alcoa lied about jarrah forest rehabilitation: ad watchdog
The Ad Standards decision has demolished a key plank of the US miner’s expensive campaign to win public support for expanded mining in WA.
The shutdown could not have come at a worse time for Australia's farmers, who last year imported 1.2 million tonnes of urea in April and May for use before or shortly after seeding. Three-quarters came from the Gulf nations, where shipping is now severely curtailed after the United States and Israel attacked Iran.

Mining relies on explosives

Australia's largest export could also be affected.

For the next two months, WA's iron ore miners no longer have 330,000 tonnes a year of TAN produced on their doorstep. The explosive is used in vast quantities to blast rock so it can be collected, crushed and shipped to port.

The degree of disruption to production, if any, will depend on the stocks of TAN the miners hold and whether they can source other supplies at short notice.

Wesfarmers subsidiary CSBP runs WA's second-largest ammonia plant in Kwinana near Perth. CSBP uses Kwinana's 255,000 tonnes a year output and additional imported ammonia to make ammonium nitrate for fertilisers and explosives.

CSBP would not say if any of its imported ammonia came from Yara.

"It is standard business practice for us to continually monitor and manage our supply chain to ensure we meet customer demand," a company spokeswoman said.

I better get my 25kg bags asap.

[Inversion]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
- China's Fertilizer Export Restrictions (2:51)
- Global Dependence on Natural Gas and Fertilizer (25:34)

Are they aware of an impending food crisis due to extreme weather or solar activity or are they engineering scarcity? Considering the stories of AI replacing jobs this could be a protocol to thin the population.

urea-fertilizers

reuters

March 19 (Reuters) - China is clamping down on fertiliser exports to protect its domestic market, a number of industry sources said, putting an additional ​strain on global markets that were already grappling with shortages caused by the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran.
China is among the largest fertiliser ‌exporters - shipping more than $13 billion worth of it last year - and it has a history of controlling exports to keep prices low for farmers.

Shipments through the war-blocked Strait of Hormuz account for roughly one-third of the sea-borne supply. In mid-March, Beijing banned exports of nitrogen-potassium fertiliser blends and certain phosphate varieties, sources told Reuters.
The ban, which has not been formally unveiled, was ​reported earlier this week by Bloomberg News.
Added to existing bans and export quotas for urea, only a handful of fertilisers - notably ammonium sulphate - can ​be exported, five sources said. That would mean between half and three quarters of China's exports last year are restricted, ⁠potentially up to 40 million metric tons, according to a Reuters estimate.

"This pattern is consistent: China restricts supplies rather than coming to the rescue during global ​tightness," said Matthew Biggin, a senior commodities analyst at BMI.
"The export restrictions exist because of their tight domestic balance - they're prioritising food security and insulating their domestic ​market from price shocks."
Beijing's curbs, like its move last week to ban refined fuel exports, come as governments limit exports of products whose inputs have been threatened by disruption from the war, worsening shortages and higher prices around the world.
International urea prices have risen by around 40% from pre-war levels. In China, urea futures are near a 10-month high.

Last year, China ​sent Brazil, Indonesia and Thailand roughly a fifth of their fertiliser imports and that figure stood at a third for Malaysia and New Zealand, according to International Trade Centre data. ‌For India, ⁠it was around 16%, according to its trade data. Between half and 80% of those exports are now restricted, according to a Reuters analysis of Chinese customs data.
"Buyers were hoping China would step in and fill the supply gap, but this decision will only tighten supplies further," a New Delhi-based fertiliser company official said, in reference to the recent restrictions.
The company official declined to be named due to the sensitivity of the matter.
India, which imported more than 40% of its urea, a ​nitrogen-based fertiliser, and DAP, a blend, from ​the Middle East last year, ⁠has requested China issue export quotas for urea.

[leavesoftrees]

Brush up on Dawn's thread on breatharianism. The first post is a knock out!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...breatharianism

[bobme]

I have not listened to any of the posted verbal responses from other people who have shared them. yet I have my own understandings of what Bill posted in the start of this thread. Possibility of famine. It has already been started!

As in, The big beautiful bill that was passed by mindless idiots.

The first step was to make 64 and younger people work 20 hours a week, no matter what their situation was. The answer they give is , no vehicle, not an excuse. Even if you live five miles away from away from a city.If you are 65 or older, and your spouse is 64 You are guilty ,and can no loner receive these benifits.

Not to mention, many states are now telling you what you cannot eat, or drink.

If that is not already thought of as control of food by the powers that be,,,than I must be very confused in some way.

[Bill Ryan]

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/179685

War in the Middle East could trigger a fertilizer market crisis and drive up food prices, — AP

Around the world, fertilizer stocks have started to decline following rising fuel prices.
With the outbreak of hostilities, supplies of urea, ammonia, and sulfur have been disrupted.

In the worst-case scenario, this means reduced crop yields and poor harvests next season. In the best-case scenario, higher production costs will be passed on to food prices next year.

Small farmers may not survive if governments do not subsidize fertilizer purchases when demand peaks in June.

[Bruce G Charlton]

I think the (amazing!) apparent complete indifference and complacency of UK and Western Europe and the US media and officialdom about this problem of famine; suggests that it is being deliberately allowed to develop to the point of panic and suffering - with the government intent upon using the resulting situation for political purposes related to the top-down imposed surveillance/ control agenda.