Breatharianism, and living on Prana: a how-to guide

[Constance]

[Joey]

10 years later, this thread is still impacting me... Once every few years I come back here to check it out.
This thread kickstarted my awakening in higher gears, as I felt the truth coming from Dawn as she shared it here.

I got heavily involved with the ceremonies she shared here. And they have and still are completely transforming me. year after year. I can truly attest to their power.

Recently reread it again and now experimenting again with the meditation she shared here, Running your energy.

Anyone with me?

[bojancan]

Just bumped this thread... Breatharianism, and living on Prana...

March, 23
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The Deadly Cult Led by the Woman Who "Doesn't Eat" | 60 Minutes Australia

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3_lkW44qhr0

In 1999, the world was introduced to Jasmuheen, a self-proclaimed "Breatharian" guru from Brisbane who made a truly unbelievable claim: she could live entirely on fresh air, requiring no food or water to survive.

But behind her cosmic rhetoric and thriving New Age mail-order business lay a dark reality. Her controversial "Living on Light" fasting regime was linked to the deaths of at least three followers around the world. Correspondent Richard Carleton confronts the former housewife about the dangers of her teachings and the deadly consequences for her followers.

[Valknut3301]

Thank you bojancan for bumping this thread. Dawn's insights and experiences are fascinating and I find they resonate deeply with me. I've always spent most of my time in nature, hiking and practicing energy work. Dawn's encouraging words about facing one's fears is something else that I've practiced for a long time, and it reminds me of Jungian shadow work, so, again, it resonates. I haven't ever found traditional meditation works for me, but perhaps it's time for me to return to it now, and with Dawn's instructions I have a good road map to get (re)started. I do, however, very much like food, and don't have much interest in giving it up, but raising my awareness is always top priority, so I guess I'll see what happens. Thanks again.

[Chip]

Appreciate the bump as well
This thread goes back a long time and brings back great memories.
It was always one of my favorites as I can remember getting into sun gazing afterwards and had worked my way up to 45 minutes.
I always felt and still do that within all of this as we progress our 3 dimensional bodies through spiritual disciplines and practices that it is quite possible to not need to eat.
I will enjoy the refresher now that this thread was re-discovered.
Thank you

[bojancan]

With pleasure to you all..
We are in 80th, my husband was this year already over... and we were align with nature "style" of living all our years together... trying our best to stay of all synthetical drugs at all... we were practicing, when we were younger, every year for one month watering too... no problems ... and earthing every day still to this days... trying to be thankful for all what life giving to us...
I admire those, who tried to go all the way to breatharianism... stepping higher over daily meditations... this is really something!
And yes, we love also food and good glass of red vine at dinner.. so, not for us...

Wishing from my heart, that in these moments, crazy ones... the nature and God will take over "steering wheel" and help humanity get over it.............

[petra]

I don’t even like food, but now I have no teeth to chew with and exploring this option, at least until I get dentures

15 pages to read through, like wow. Might as well give this a bump

[joamarks]

For the past 17 years, I have been working with this topic in practice.

in 2012 I completed 44 minutes of sungazing. Here in the Netherlands, that’s not easy (it took me 3 years ).

in 2014 I also went through Jasmuheen’s 21 days. successfully, on my own.

in 2021 I spent an afternoon with someone who had been a breatharian for years (Bert Piloo).

A friend of mine underwent the initiation in Denmark with Kay Hougaard (livingonlight.dk).

My conclusion so far is that it’s not a walk in the park.

I suffered from underweight for several years.

On a raw, vegan, and now vegetarian diet, I have finally gained weight over the last few years and am more or less at a healthy weight.
Even though I haven’t changed anything in my diet except adding peanut butter

for me, the Living on Prana program has been useful because I am convinced that our food supply no longer provides sufficient nutrients.

I don’t worry for a day about whether I am eating correctly or getting everything I need.
that's what the awareness around prana living has offered me so far

[shaberon]

Posted by joamarks (here)
in 2012 I completed 44 minutes of sungazing. Here in the Netherlands, that’s not easy

No. I was there in a month of July, and over several days, the sun came out for about twenty minutes. Main thing that slows me down from moving there.

But the gazing is supposed to have a profound effect. Did it?

for me, the Living on Prana program has been useful because I am convinced that our food supply no longer provides sufficient nutrients.

I don’t worry for a day about whether I am eating correctly or getting everything I need.
that's what the awareness around prana living has offered me so far

The difference outside of those programs, is that we look at it as living by mental energy, produced and sustained by the mind. Prana is more like a tool.

Did those years actually give you any control and usage of Prana? Or just a type of awareness that energy only partially depends on food?

[joamarks]

-But the gazing is supposed to have a profound effect. Did it?-

Most certainly—in many ways.

The process unfolded in three phases.
Each time, i experienced a leap in light intensity.
the first minutes staring into the sun were quite a struggle.

after doing it for a few months, i reached the first 13minute barrier. with considerable effort and perseverance. (Standing barefoot in the snow, is no fun.)

It was as if the sunlight were 'burning' through a energy seal within my body.
after this experience i was sold.

Now I could move forward without battling the sceptical part of my brain.
this repeated itself at 22 and 37minutes.
the last leap was intens. it felt true like my body became lighter (in the double sense of the word)

After that, I never wore sunglasses or applied sunscreen again.

I gained many insights while gazing at the sun. (After all, you’re standing barefoot in a field all alone, with plenty of time to kill.)

—including how the light disperses into the colours of the rainbow, and how each individual frequency corresponds to specific chakras, organs, and mindsets.

In particular, the insight into how sunlight activates our energy body—how the physical body is nourished, but also the reverse: how sunlight can indirectly nourish our energy body (and psyche) through 'living foods' containing a full colour (spectrum).

Solar energy has also given my intellectual faculties a huge boost. This sounds a bit far-fetched, but it is truly indescribable—as if my ego-mind has connected with a cosmic mind. I still make just as many language errors :)
but I am more grounded in the wisdom of the NOW.

However, I do want to add a word of warning here.

For the past two years, I have been suffering from macular degeneration in my right eye (resulting in a red-coloured blind spot in my central field of vision and an inability to read text).

I expect plenty of reactions to this, like: "i told you so".

but almost everyone around me is experiencing a significant decline in their eyesight. Which, in my opinion, is more likely a consequence of the LED energy from screens and lamps beaming into our eyes with laser-sharp intensity and causing fatigue.

A friend of mine serves as a medic in the military, and he mentioned that they are at the point of adjusting vision standards because, otherwise, hardly anyone would pass the medical exam anymore (this applies to young people).

Yet, I am truly the only one around here who was foolish enough to stare at the sun. :P

if somebody is interested in sungazing, keep in mind the sun has changed a lot the last years, becoming more white en etheric.

I’m not sure what effect this has on people who want to start staring now.

{-The difference outside of those programs, is that we look at it as living by mental energy, produced and sustained by the mind. Prana is more like a tool.}

While going through the Jasmuheen program—specifically during the seven-day dry fast—I clearly experienced entities within my energy body. making adjustments to my etheric kidneys.
I didn't consider that as an 'unconditioned agreement'.

Since then, I’ve paid closer attention to people who live on prana; it’s hard to pick up on this via a screen or YouTube, but sometimes I very clearly 'see' entities standing behind them that are largely responsible for their energetic nourishment.

So I wouldn't treat it lightly, as if it were something you could gain an advantage from and use—like a hammer.

Not long after, I severed this collaboration with the Jasmuheen entities; I was not interested in their worldview and agenda.

There is a lot of targeting of souls who are dissatisfied with the current state of the world or who want to prepare for global famine out of fear. These individuals turn out to be low-hanging fruit for entities that do not always have your best interests at heart.

{-Did those years actually give you any control and usage of Prana? Or just a type of awareness that energy only partially depends on food?-}

Yes, as a healer, I have benefited greatly from it. My energy is more fluid. Just as water can carry away dirt, I can let negative energy flow out of my system more easily.

Discharging energy is no simple matter—let alone clearing public spaces where a great deal of energy is trapped. However, I am cautious when it comes to exerting control on an energetic level. If you aren't truly conscious of what you're doing, you might accidentally trigger something unpleasant in another dimension :)

there is still a long way to go before I truly understand what I am doing.

-

[shaberon]

Posted by joamarks (here)
—including how the light disperses into the colours of the rainbow, and how each individual frequency corresponds to specific chakras, organs, and mindsets.

In particular, the insight into how sunlight activates our energy body—how the physical body is nourished, but also the reverse: how sunlight can indirectly nourish our energy body (and psyche) through 'living foods' containing a full colour (spectrum).

Solar energy has also given my intellectual faculties a huge boost. This sounds a bit far-fetched, but it is truly indescribable—as if my ego-mind has connected with a cosmic mind. I still make just as many language errors
but I am more grounded in the wisdom of the NOW.

Okay.

I am speaking from a point of view that does not come from sun gazing, but clairvoyance.

From this view, I have recently become open-minded to the explanation of Bio-Plasma.

If there were anything to it, then, it would clearly be in a very close relation to the Sun, similar to the way you say 'energy body'.

It's not Kirlian Photography. That is a studio effect. The real plasma is thought to operate across proteins as piezos and is re-charged by oxygen.

Coherence of plasma has a lot to do with health, and, the conjecture is that it is the vehicle of consciousness.

It's not light, which is what I mean by clairvoyance, which has an aspect that will show you spectrums on car headlights, street lights, house lights, etc., which I would describe as external. A human aura is something else.

In terms of plasma, I have not done it, but I have heard of another type of sun gazing that inverts it so you see the corona.

What I have done is more like an experience of Color, physical or mental. And I wonder what others think of the phosphenes.

Since then, I’ve paid closer attention to people who live on prana; it’s hard to pick up on this via a screen or YouTube, but sometimes I very clearly 'see' entities standing behind them that are largely responsible for their energetic nourishment.

I know nothing of that.

Considered as an aura, then, yes, the more saintly, the more the person will look like a saint. I am also sensitive about whether a person has experienced Shakti. But I'm pretty oblivious about anyone whose main line was to avoid eating; never encountered it.

The caveat about what I am talking about is I cannot do this and live like a normal person.

So I intentionally undercut and grounded all those things, like biological wires and spark plugs, which I now think were really handling plasma.

Of course, the main thing that stimulates clairvoyant tendencies is sunlight.

By keeping it throttled down, I started to find another apparent fact, the sun within the head.

The optic nerve works both ways. It takes something from the brain, and shoots it out the eyes.

Usually, this is an immediate recollection of the previous instant, so you have continuity of consciousness. But if a person hallucinates a monster, the eyes emit a corresponding blob of light. It's not the eye that sees. The brain sees.

I would definitely say I live on prana as a self-correcting moment-to-moment guide, because it is the same thing I know for a fact causes superior states of being that lead to clairvoyance. Because of that, it's difficult to understand the purpose of removing the food component.

[joamarks]

if eyes could emit light, we wouldn't need a flashlight in the dark.

still, everyone knows the eyes radiate 'something'.
anyone can 'see' when someone takes their last breath, as soon as the spirit is gone, the cells in the body and brain are still alive, but the light in the eyes is gone in a second.

I think what we 'see' when we talk about energy is concerning our third eye.
we use it to look blindly (without light) into another (time axis) dimension like an overlay, kind of like a modern augmented reality headset.

the light we see as spiritual beings has it's own energy source, but not in our material world. (not measured as electrical, magnetic or plasma, anyway)

i like the idea that the chakra energy is a kind of artificial interlock 'system' between these two dimensions. (our 3D and spiritual 5D)
material food keeps this system in place like a practical prison to the material time experience.

when you take away food, the chakra system, it has to 'rewire' its energy directly from this other time dimension. or you die.

im not sure if it make sense to transfer the idea of energy to a material science Language.

Light can't bend inside my body, unless the body is a kind of active crystal form.

I rather think that the sunlight in my eyes flips some kind of 'switch in the brain' so that every cell can autonomously receive the light energy or plasma, however you want to call it, directly through the ether. (or 5D)

maybe I've found a kind of bypass for my undernourishment problem with this.
It's like the cells themselves find their own way to feed on the ether.

Still, after all these years, I haven’t gotten answers to a few questions yet.

Maybe someone here has an idea about:

1. How do you keep yourself warm without the fire from the combustion oven in your digestive system?

2. What role does pollution in the broadest sense (environment, psyche, energy, noise, etc.) play when you live so purely?

3. How do you keep the demons at bay that immediately find their way when you fast? (Even Jesus couldn’t free himself totally from them during the fasting period in the desert.)

4 time. it plays a very weird game with us lately. I can hardly handle the 5D way of thinking myself. It's a lonely path.
How do you share something so alien with others?

[Ernie Nemeth]

Offered in sincerity:

1) Remember the levels, like you say, the dimensions. It is a question of scale, in my parlance. Heat, energy, light - these are 3D patterns. If you are serious about prana and breatherianism, then stick to the 5D level, as you say. What is heat on the 5D plane? I'm not sure, as that is not my path, but I would wager it is love.

2) Stop focusing on the 3D nature of the universe. Remember, you are breathing for nourishment, for sustenance, for identity even. Pollution is a distraction.

3) You cannot free yourself from your self. Learn to embrace your totality. As is the lesson in the 5D realm, is it not?

4) I understand the urge to share. The sharing is a personal yearning to understand and to assimilate knowledge. Not really a necessary condition of 5D, since all is known by all.


I merely suggest what I am inspired to share.
Namaste

[shaberon]

Posted by joamarks (here)
the light we see as spiritual beings has it's own energy source, but not in our material world. (not measured as electrical, magnetic or plasma, anyway)

...

im not sure if it make sense to transfer the idea of energy to a material science Language.

So far we cannot explain the mechanism.

Most of the old pagan systems were based on two suns, the visible orb, and an intelligence or regent thereof.

The only attempted explanation I know of is based in the transformation of regular polyhedrons in Spherical Trigonometry, then reducing to a point which spins really fast, which is the contact or gate to this material world.

But we cannot even say anything about potential energy, really; every portion of space is filled with the birth and death of a particle - antiparticle pair, which usually has no net result and therefor no energy. But for instance the Casimir effect uses a set of parallel plates very close together; and so when the pairs create, if its wavelength is bigger than the gap, then they are excluded; this creates a negative pressure and the plates attract. This has been known since 1937.

This represents everywhere, constantly.

There is always a small chance that, rather than a single photon, the energy emitted could be an entire universe. So, if your plates are too close together, a universe might blow up in your face at any moment.

Or, if I see a light, mentally, and then react, it has thereby sent energy into the material world; not directly as itself, but by way of effect.


Light and plasma are two completely different things, so they can't be used interchangeably. The idea of Bio-plasma is that it works via piezos and can therefor be affected by sound (such as mantras). In that sense, a mantra could prevent genetic defects.

3. How do you keep the demons at bay that immediately find their way when you fast? (Even Jesus couldn’t free himself totally from them during the fasting period in the desert.)

I would have to ask if that is not a copy of Buddha.

The difference is -- and this is how Siddartha Gautama became a Buddha -- is that he ate something.

It is only afterwards that he had, so to speak, a psychic duel with the Four Maras and defeated them. That means that it can be done, and it has been done.

The next difference is there are thousands of explanatory texts about that, so, a quick answer is impossible, but the reason there is a Buddha is because of eating.

In that sense, I eat Pollution; I take the Wrong Path; I go Straight to Hell; and it's like what happens when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object -- nothing.

That's because my prana works completely differently than that of a worldly being. It's far more harmonized not just to the visual sun but to its spiritual regent.

Comparatively, they have the dead fish eye.

But, on a serious note, in the sense of -- not scary apparitions, or temptation -- but the upwelling of disturbing emotions and bouts of insanity -- any success I have along these lines is the result of a massive slew of failures. I've paid prices rather than going around being pure or anything like that. I'm so used up they should just recycle me. The sensitivity to prana is how I was born; dealing with trauma is acquired.


I may have an example that may be more tangible to understand. Usually the rays I feel emanating from my person in a sun-like way do just that -- emanate freely.

However, if you have a contagious disease, I can feel that from fifteen or twenty feet away. It makes something like a radar signature. My immune system immediately starts indexing its library, and rolls something out to counter whatever you may be carrying. I never get sick.

In living memory, I've had one typical three-day cold a few years ago, and before that...I can't even really remember anything. I had a bad flu, probably about...twenty-five years ago.

Of course, I haven't seen a doctor in close to forty.

That's how I keep myself intact. I don't have time for disease or injury. I handle garbage constantly. I drink from the same cup every day and never wash it, like a security blanket. Yet I just avoided running over a cat by approximately an inch because of sensitivity and reflexive conditioning.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by shaberon (here)
So far we cannot explain the mechanism.

A brief footnote here.

There may not be a 'mechanism' — though of course I completely know what you mean when you wrote that.

My very strong suspicion is that the human body isn't really a physical object as we tend to assume the meaning of the concept. Or else, we'd not have all the many witnessed and recorded instances of levitation, bilocation, spontaneous healing, psychic surgery, and everything Alexandra David-Neel described in her most wonderful book Magic and Mystery in Tibet (in the library here, highly recommended) in the fascinating chapter titled Psychic Sports.

All this may have rather more to do with the power of consciousness to manipulate some kind of 'simulated' (matrix-like or 'holographic') reality... a totally serious comment.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
the human body isn't really a physical object

Perhaps we are not just physical bodies ... perhaps we are that and more, in ways beyond the understanding of our main stream physics, chemistry, biology and medicine.

[shaberon]

Posted by shaberon (here)
Yet I just avoided running over a cat by approximately an inch because of sensitivity and reflexive conditioning.

I have to use myself as an example here.

I was doing about forty-five at night when I had to spontaneously execute that maneuver.

Well, guess what, I get up today to go participate in the world of dysfunctional human beings and...I discover someone hit our goat right here in the g-d d*mned driveway.

That's apparently by driving at her and blaming her for not moving out of the way in time, from a seated position, exactly like she does every day in the sun.

It appears she tried to protect herself by headbutting the car, and broke a horn. But it's a pretty serious break, down to the nub. The goat's horn is basically connected to her sinus, meaning that although she's not terribly shaken by the injury, we have to keep treating it or it could send infection straight into her brain.

Unfortunately, I lack that kind of pranic control that would enable you to cause healing on another, or prevent infection. I've never seen it done, but, I remain open-minded to the possibility because it seems parallel to what I have experienced.

Fortunately, her eyeball is still there and her face and head are not mutilated...that's a serious defense mechanism...you try getting hit in the head by a car and then go walk around like nothing happened.

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by shaberon (here)
So far we cannot explain the mechanism.

A brief footnote here.

There may not be a 'mechanism' — though of course I completely know what you mean when you wrote that.

My very strong suspicion is that the human body isn't really a physical object as we tend to assume the meaning of the concept.

I don't think I've heard it put that way before.

I might try to contend that other bodies are objects, but the one you inhabit is...well, it's definitely in a class of its own.

In one sense it is a thirty-seven mile antenna.

So it is hugely an electro-magnetic dynamo, and, quite possibly a coherent plasma structure -- which I at least would still call physical, even though not of the "three states of matter". And this leads to the conclusion that consciousness is a form of matter. It can't possibly be an "object" in any conventional sense, yet, like magnetism is inseparable from the polarized molecules that create it, a relation or interface with crude matter is still physical. If consciousness was, for example, a trapped photon, I would call it physical.

From the subjective side, I would say the body does not even exist, it is unreal, because it is a temporary phenomenon, and I must be saying that from the perspective of something that is not temporary. That's sort of a metaphysical axiom, which takes us to another arena altogether.

If I were to say the apparent phenomenon of the body, is consciousness interacting with prana, that is pretty close to what I personally experience, in the sense that not getting sick and a few other things are an act of willpower. But I have zero capacity for the perhaps more interesting things that work their way into books.

The idea of plasma health is identical -- you would never get sick.

So, for me, at least, that is the one thing I have ever heard of that actually matches what I personally do since birth.

It's just the next physical veil, and tells us nothing as to either a more refined state of matter, or, any linking mechanism to a non-physical mental existence, which would be the only possible permanent and therefor real kind.


I would perhaps steal the suggestion, and say "body-as-object" is the flaw of allopathic Rockefeller medicine, to treat you like a chemical soup hooked up to a DC generator, to be worked on by molecules and mechanical means. Obviously I've been denouncing that for a while. And I'm ready to fight a million wumpuses if they come out. That's after doing a lot more and dirtier work than those around me, and eating almost nothing.