Zionism, Ufology, the Apocalypse, and the Dawn of the Messianic Age

[DNA]

I'm not a Christian although I go to church and do all the lip service.
That being said Christian society seems to be the best option for human civilization.
I wholly support Christianity.
But Judaism is literally the worst.
Judaism by it's definition is a religion based on superiority.
I don't believe in any religion except the one of my own creation.

The gnostics had something correct with their description of our existence within the blind idiot God Yaldaboath.
It's a combination of prison planet, matrix false reality and soul trap.

Yaldaboath appears to be real.
That is a f#cking trip to me.
I didn't think that would be the case.

Yaldaboath appears as Yehweh, Moloch, Saturn, Baal.
In fact Yaldaboath doesn't care what you call him as long as you bring your prerequisite human sacrifice and preferably a child.
Even the Toltecs of Mexico recognized him as the eagle, the huge figure who's food was the awareness of sentient life.

The Atlanteans worshipped him as Belial.
They paid heavy tribute for his favor.

Tom Delong, yeah.
The guy gets his introduction into the Pentagon and military men trained in the art of UFO know how from motherf#cking John Podesta.
That guy who in the WikiLeaks drops in 2016 told Hillary he would sacrifice a chicken to Moloch for her and he wasn't talking about a bird.

John Podesta the guy who is maybe the most prolific pedophile not named Epstein who is constantly employed in higher government.
John Podesta is not just a pedophile, he is expert and a practitioner in the worship of Yaldaboath .
In essence he is a skinwalker.

Navajo teachings going back to the 1800s dictate that a skinwalker is someone who gains favor and as such massive wealth through the practice of human sacrifice, especially the sacrifice of children.

Are the gods Tom Delong refers to in his book real?
They probably are.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mike (here)
Anyway, these demonic ultraterestrials were akin to fallen angels, and existed mainly to mess with people and cause chaos, generally speaking [.....]
Which is why I'm inclined to agree with Mark's summation, that it's these demons that wrecked the western world and not the Judeo/Christian foundation that built it.

Ah, the 'demons in charge' I was referring to are the politicians, the bureaucrats, the neo-Marxist globalist framework that infiltrated the west, worming its way into every possible facet of governance and control.

What led them, coerced them, into taking the action they have taken in eroding our values and destroying the western world may indeed have a demonic origin. They're very religious these people, but they don't have the same 'God' that we do, if you get my meaning...

Is there a connection to 'ultraterrestrials' though? I don't know. To me, ultraterrestrials are the leftovers, the throwbacks, the pockets of survivors of the Atlantean holocaust that still exist to this day, hiding out in mountain lairs or deep under the ocean.

I don't know what, if any, influence they have over modern-day human affairs, but in the long past, I believe it was extensive.

You know the show 'Ancient Aliens'? That's mistitled. It should be called 'Ancient Atlanteans'. I'm as sure as can be that this is the truth.

I also know from past-life memories that run through my dreams like a film reel. While in pre-dynastic Egypt in one of these former lives, I witnessed what I interpreted to be 'the gods' flying around in enormous 'metal birds'. They'd direct and communicate with rulers on the ground by talking to them in their heads -- this happened to me, and it was terrifying. These flying machines by the way very closely resemble the winged-disc motif which first appeared in Mesopotamia and became a staple of Egyptian religion. I know now, looking back, what was piloting these craft weren't 'gods' (with a small g), but people like me, masquerading as gods. And we the people worshipped, praised and feared them as such. I believe these were ultraterrestrials. Demonic though? I don't know. I don't believe so, not exactly. It would be an interesting topic to discuss, but perhaps in another thread.

[Mike]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Anyway, these demonic ultraterestrials were akin to fallen angels, and existed mainly to mess with people and cause chaos, generally speaking [.....]
Which is why I'm inclined to agree with Mark's summation, that it's these demons that wrecked the western world and not the Judeo/Christian foundation that built it.

Ah, the 'demons in charge' I was referring to are the politicians, the bureaucrats, the neo-Marxist globalist framework that infiltrated the west, worming its way into every possible facet of governance and control.

What led them, coerced them, into taking the action they have taken in eroding our values and destroying the western world may indeed have a demonic origin. They're very religious these people, but they don't have the same 'God' that we do, if you get my meaning...

Is there a connection to 'ultraterrestrials' though? I don't know. To me, ultraterrestrials are the leftovers, the throwbacks, the pockets of survivors of the Atlantean holocaust that still exist to this day, hiding out in mountain lairs or deep under the ocean.

I don't know what, if any, influence they have over modern-day human affairs, but in the long past, I believe it was extensive.

You know the show 'Ancient Aliens'? That's mistitled. It should be called 'Ancient Atlanteans'. I'm as sure as can be that this is the truth.

I also know from past-life memories that run through my dreams like a film reel. While in pre-dynastic Egypt in one of these former lives, I witnessed what I interpreted to be 'the gods' flying around in enormous 'metal birds'. They'd direct and communicate with rulers on the ground by talking to them in their heads -- this happened to me, and it was terrifying. These flying machines by the way very closely resemble the winged-disc motif which first appeared in Mesopotamia and became a staple of Egyptian religion. I know now, looking back, what was piloting these craft weren't 'gods' (with a small g), but people like me, masquerading as gods. And we the people worshipped, praised and feared them as such. I believe these were ultraterrestrials. Demonic though? I don't know. I don't believe so, not exactly. It would be an interesting topic to discuss, but perhaps in another thread.

I really whiffed on that one, didn't I?

But I am as certain as I can be that there is a demonic origin behind it all, as you also seem to be implying or are at least open to. And even if one is disinclined to accept that idea, I think you have to at the very least accept the idea that this is all being choreographed by sinister forces bent on destroying the west. I think that's an indisputable assertion.

And the next logical question is why? We could dissect all the minutiae, but for the sake of brevity I'll offer what I feel is the clear and obvious answer: evil forces are attempting to destroy the west because the west is good.

The west's philosophical base rests on truth, beauty, and goodness. Which are seen as objective realities, realized thru contemplation and reason and rationality. God, in other words.

We've seen what they've done with truth; we've seen what they've done with reason and rationality; we've seen what they've done with beauty; and now goodness. The attempt was to "kill God" as Nietzsche put it, all under the guise of "compassion" and "equity".

The west, while highly flawed, comes closest to embodying the ideals that evil so desperately wants to distort and destroy. And I strongly feel that's what these demons or non-human intelligences (or Ultraterrestrials, or UFO's or ..fill in the blank) are doing.

Re dreams: while mine aren't nearly as clear as yours, I have had similar dreams of UFO craft flying very low and me doing my best to dodge and defy them. All during what appears to a rebellion of some kind. The only difference between my old opinion on this and my new ones is that I no longer view the alien-from-outer space theory as being the obvious influence in many of these events. Ancient Atlanteans? Maybe!

[Kryztian]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Anyway

IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN HAVE THREADS HERE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC!!!!!???!!!!

CAN YOU TAKE THIS CONVERSATION SOMEWHERE ELSE???????? PUH-LEAZZZZE!

I know people have there favorite topics, their Idée fixe, their Leitmotif that they like to talk about, be it structural communism, or Gnosticism, or Wokism, or whatever - is it necessary to bring these topics to EVERY OTHER THREAD on the forum???? Their are plenty of other places to do that on the forum - or you can start a new thread???? Project Avalon really won't charge you much for hitting the "New Thread Button".

If you have something intelligent to say ON THE ACTUAL TOPIC OF THE THREAD I would love to hear from them. But until then, can you please kindly get the *üc* off this thread!

[Mike]

Posted by Kryztian (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Anyway

IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN HAVE THREADS HERE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC!!!!!???!!!!

CAN YOU TAKE THIS CONVERSATION SOMEWHERE ELSE???????? PUH-LEAZZZZE!

I know people have there favorite topics, their Idée fixe, their Leitmotif that they like to talk about, be it structural communism, or Gnosticism, or Wokism, or whatever - is it necessary to bring these topics to EVERY OTHER THREAD on the forum???? Their are plenty of other places to do that on the forum - or you can start a new thread???? Project Avalon really won't charge you much for hitting the "New Thread Button".

If you have something intelligent to say ON THE ACTUAL TOPIC OF THE THREAD I would love to hear from them. But until then, can you please kindly get the *üc* off this thread!

That post is about non human intelligences, Chris. And UFO's. And the possible apocalypse (which is what I think will happen if the west crumbles).

But okay, I'll leave ya to it

[DNA]

Posted by Kryztian (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Anyway

IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN HAVE THREADS HERE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC!!!!!???!!!!

CAN YOU TAKE THIS CONVERSATION SOMEWHERE ELSE???????? PUH-LEAZZZZE!

I know people have there favorite topics, their Idée fixe, their Leitmotif that they like to talk about, be it structural communism, or Gnosticism, or Wokism, or whatever - is it necessary to bring these topics to EVERY OTHER THREAD on the forum???? Their are plenty of other places to do that on the forum - or you can start a new thread???? Project Avalon really won't charge you much for hitting the "New Thread Button".

If you have something intelligent to say ON THE ACTUAL TOPIC OF THE THREAD I would love to hear from them. But until then, can you please kindly get the *üc* off this thread!

You were an only child weren't you?
No siblings?
Never learned how to share?
You should work on that.

[Bright Skies]

Thank you Kryztian for your very well-researched threads and posts on the topic of Zionism:

The end of the state of Israel (1947 - 202?)

The simple facts and fictions about Israel and Zionism: How to debunk blatantly false Zionist propaganda

Including the thread I am posting on now:

Zionism, Ufology, the Apocalypse, and the Dawn of the Messianic Age

I appreciate all the time and effort that it must have taken to compile.

If I was a regular forum poster (I have less than 100 posts!) I would have engaged earlier (and 'Thanked' you and all the other members posting too). I have also noticed these threads have got a bit heated at times. But I understand that a lot of the regular forum posters seem to be quite familiar with each other so some of the back-and-forth and insults may actually be banter rather than genuine animosity towards one another.

Posted by Kryztian (here)
IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN HAVE THREADS HERE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC!!!!!???!!!!

CAN YOU TAKE THIS CONVERSATION SOMEWHERE ELSE???????? PUH-LEAZZZZE!

But it does appear that you have received pushback from some members who are Trump-friendly and/or those with strong anti-Islam sentiments who wish to steer the discussion to other topics - such as preserving Western culture, wokeshevism, mass immigration and the threat of Islam. And as Rizotto had mentioned, the thread about Zionist propaganda ended up being illustrative of how Zionist propaganda works. Even I was quite surprised how a thread on Zionist propaganda was countered with posts espousing Zionist propaganda about how dangerous Iran is to the world.

But we know that yelling "But Hamas! But Hamas! Whatabout the Muslims?! Whatabout the Muslims?!" is often used to deflect and derail discussions critical of Zionism.

And I hope that my post here will remain on the topic of this thread: Zionism, Ufology, the Apocalypse, and the Dawn of the Messianic Age. If not, I apologise, but the main focus will be Zionism.

The one constant that pervades both sides of political leadership in the West is the undue influence of Zionism.

And on the topic of mass immigration of non-compatible cultures into the West and the radical alteration of demographics, I believe there is a very purposeful plan to create a 'clash of civilisations'.

Any analysis of the current state of affairs, including the mass immigration issue, is incomplete without addressing the influence of Zionism which has subverted every Western government via lobby groups, bribery and blackmail. Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder and this is especially the case for the Zionist lobby groups and donor class. There also may be some Epstein-type blackmail and kompromat operations involved as the vice-like grip they have on Western politicians is wholly unnatural - especially on the Zio-slave Trump (I thought it was supposed to be MAGA not MIGA).

And I do believe the influence of Zionism has a significant hand in perpetrating the 'clash of civilisations' as it is the Zionist-controlled Western governments that have opened the floodgates and allowed it to occur - especially over the last two decades. Extremist ideologies also exist which state that Edom (European Christendom) and the Children of Ishmael (Islam) need to mutually destroy each for the Jewish Moshiach (Messiah) to arrive as part of an end-time prophecy. Perhaps this is another self-fulfilling prophecy that is being made to happen.

According to the words of Chabad Lubavitch Rabbi David Touitou: "Our Messiah will only appear once Europe and Christianity are totally destroyed. So is it good news that Islam invades Europe? It is excellent news! Islam is the broom of Israel!"

Not all rabbis believe this of course but it's interesting that some believe the destruction of the West via mass invasion is desirable.

On the other thread a simple definition of Zionism was asked for by Mike which was a good question.

Posted by Mike (here)
I'll explain what the west is in 3 sentences or less if you explain what Zionism is in 3 sentences or less.

A simple definition used by geopolitical analyst Dan Cohen, who is a Jew himself, is: "A political ideology that combines racial and religious supremacy with European-style fascism". Another non-Zionist Jew Max Blumenthal claims Zionism has "destroyed" his religion of Judaism.

Alistair Crooke states in this interview that Bill Ryan posted here, is that Zionism has entered its third stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmjQsipL6s&t=1096s

"The old Zionism is gone, the Zionism of the Ashkenazi, the liberal European, Zionism is replaced. You ask most Israelis what is Zionism today, they can't answer and if they did answer honesty they'd say it's the Zionism of Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, of Messianic Zionism, if you like, complete disdain for Palestinians or anyone else.

The Israelis themselves, Yossi Klein in the Hebrew version of Haaretz calls it the third stage, moving to the third stage of Zionism, which is barbarism. And that's what he's referring to in Gaza."

Posted by Mike (here)
it's a Judeo-Christian foundation that keeps the world from going insane.

"Judeo-Christian" is a term that only started to be used in the 19th century and has been used to define different things at different times. Some would argue the term is an oxymoron.

I understand why it is used in a religious sense due to the Abrahamic/Old Testament links between Judaism and Christianity but that is where the similarity ends as one rejects the Messiah of the other and according to the Noahide Laws, Christians are regarded as idolators.

These days the term is used a lot in conservative political circles where it is used to describe 'Western' culture and values as a whole. I have also heard it used by those who are Zionist-friendly to promote that the West and Israel are somehow linked with a shared set of values.

My ancestors are originally from Eastern Europe and before WWII there was a lot of interaction between the Christian and Jewish communities (perhaps even more so than what occurred in the West) but my culture has never been categorised as "Judeo-Christian". The communities were far too different from one another in their customs and beliefs.

An interesting discussion about the term "Judeo-Christian" is here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/comm...udeochristian/

And speaking of the fundamental differences between Judaism and Christianity, what do Israelis think of Christ and Christianity?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UCUxTFt8pB0

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wFkSW5Ek9Wg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=y79CfG2R_3g

What do Palestinians think of Christ and Christianity?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7-VLQwleTUc

(But of course even Palestinian Christians are also viewed as Alamek and need to be destroyed according to the Zionist supremacist zealots.)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
In my opinion, it's the demons in charge that wrecked the western world, not the Judeo-Christian foundation that built it.

I believe the so-called demons (or whatever term one wishes to use for them) have been around long before the Western world was even established and perhaps they had a hand in creating it. Purposeful destruction may also be part of their plan.

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Ah, the 'demons in charge' I was referring to are the politicians, the bureaucrats, the neo-Marxist globalist framework that infiltrated the west, worming its way into every possible facet of governance and control.

What led them, coerced them, into taking the action they have taken in eroding our values and destroying the western world may indeed have a demonic origin. They're very religious these people, but they don't have the same 'God' that we do, if you get my meaning...

And thanks for clarifying. When I read your initial post where you referred to demons I was wondering if you meant actual demonic entities or it was simply a term you used for the human 'bad actors'. And the 'bad actors' could very well be influenced or even possessed by their 'God'.

Since this thread links Zionism and Ufology, and possible 'off-world' influence, which could also relate to non-physical or spiritual influence, these topics remind me of the following presentations by Chuck Swindoll, Jr. that I recently discovered. Many of the theories are not new but I am impressed with how he compiles and presents it all.

Apparently his father was well-known evangelical Christian pastor Chuck Swindoll but his son Chuck Swindoll, Jr. now believes that Christianity was just another ancient mass mind control operation.

The first video on his channel is this one:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t80cMnevJtc

But his most popular videos are his presentations titled Khazarian Mafia: The God Eaters. Of course the Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry such as that detailed in Arthur Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe is disputed by some as a 'conspiracy theory': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar...enazi_ancestry

But the topic is interesting and relevant. Who is in ultimate control?

These videos have already been posted on Project Avalon by Eva2 on the thread Conspiracy Research, ancient bloodlines controls on Modern Man but they didn't receive much attention: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1584149

However, 1.2M+ views on YouTube is impressive for this type of material - especially after the 2018 purge of alternative content.

I will re-post them here along with the chapters that I have transcribed so members can get a better idea of the contents:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YwbkyEzYBHI

This video is indeed about the Khazarian Mafia, but more importantly offers the patterns by which they have fed on God by way of humanities ignorance. As Nature creatures we are an outpouring of God, and the only way we can escape the Black Sun, is to understand their modus operandi; this means changing our world view, so that true evil can be seen; for we all have been beguiled with assumptions which disguise the Demiurge. The Khazarian Mafia has worked extremely hard to present a false reality based on inculcated lies, falsified histories, and projected blame. So the point of this lecture is to not only educate the listener to the bloodlines of the Khazarian Mafia, but more importantly, the psychology by which they have eviscerated us.

00:00:00 Theme Music, Titles, and Video
00:07:23 Greetings and Welcome
00:10:46 Aristotle and Knowing Yourself
00:11:03 Who Are You
00:12:13 To Learn Anything One Must Lose Everything
00:12:49 Who Rules the World
00:14:26 Hierarchies of Evil
00:19:29 False Realities
00:21:39 Costumes of Evil
00:22:49 Mastery through Poisoning
00:23:43 Lecture Origins
00:24:33 A Tribal World
00:25:59 Expanding Your Mind
00:27:33 Walk Without Rhythm (Clif High)
00:30:00 Pain, Wisdom, Kenosis, and Alchemy
00:32:46 Unconscious Security Needs (guest speaker)
00:35:43 Original Version of Human Beings
00:36:13 Molesting Human DNA
00:37:56 Original Sin
00:39:23 The God Eaters
00:40:13 Blaspheming the Work of Nature/God
00:40:40 DNA is the Signature of God (guest speaker)
00:41:50 A Society Captured by Projection
00:42:46 Victim Consciousness (guest speaker)
00:45:50 Molested at the Genetic Level
00:47:00 Evidence of Lab Work
00:50:09 Value Transcends Origin
00:52:00 Who Did the Deed
00:52:33 Questions and Statements that Collapse a Society
00:53:00 A World Captured by Evil
00:55:56 A Corrupt Leadership Corrupts the Society
00:57:26 Nature Holds No Opinion
00:58:49 Younger Dryas Cataclysm
00:59:53 A Great Flood
01:02:13 Clif High Master Timeline
01:03:49 Disagreements and Contradictions
01:04:29 The Problem of Nod
01:05:50 Bloodines in Khazaria
01:07:43 Jacob and Esau
01:08:43 Canaanites are from Bloodlines of Ham and Shem
01:09:16 The Khazarian Mafia is Legion
01:11:46 Shem, Jappeth, and Ham
01:13:19 Societies Born of Deception
01:14:33 The Amalekites
01:15:36 Hallucinogenic Plant Substances
01:17:33 Kerth Barker Testimony
01:22:33 Harvesting and Eating Humans, Part 1
01:25:09 Trade Routes - an Endless Supply of Meat and Money
01:26:16 Harvesting and Eating Humans, Part 2
01:27:36 Torture Pharmacology
01:29:36 Disguises and Patterns of Murderers
01:33:03 Infiltration from Within
01:37:09 The Rockefeller Abomination

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PuRcBi87YpA

00:00:00 Opening Video from Greg Reese
00:05:19 Music and Memes
00:06:43 Greetings
00:08:13 Alan Watts and Spiders
00:10:13 Conquering Fear
00:10:59 Part 1 Recap
00:12:33 1 BC Trade Routes & Cynics
00:14:59 Corroding Rome
00:17:03 Trade Route Details
00:19:49 The Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia by Mike Harris
00:22:49 Russia Russia Russia
00:24:33 Themes of the Ages
00:25:19 Who Instigated the Dark Ages
00:26:00 Origins of the Catholic Church (special video)
00:31:00 AD 100 Khazaria Begins
00:31:16 Amalekite Priests
00:32:33 Evil to Empower
00:33:53 Ultimatum from Russia
00:34:59 Guise of the Ashkenazi
00:35:53 Tunnels Lurking Beneath
00:36:33 Lies and More Lies
00:37:09 Owl Worship
00:39:06 Child Trafficking with David Straight (special video)
00:44:53 A Sophisticated Society
00:45:36 From Hollywood to the Presidency
00:46:46 A Growing Society
00:48:06 This Is not a Game
00:48:26 Babylonian Talmudism
00:51:33 Russia Invades
00:52:23 Spy Networks
00:52:56 Moving to Bohemia
00:54:29 Creeping into the West
00:55:36 Oliver Cromwell
00:56:19 Taking Over the British Empire
00:57:46 Hegelian Dialectics
00:59:20 WMD Dialectic
01:00:09 COVID Dialectic
01:01:13 Food Pyramid Dialectic
01:02:09 Climate Change Dialectic
01:03:26 Black Magic
01:04:56 Bavaria and Bauer
01:05:53 Red Shield and Hexgrams
01:07:46 Saturn in the Black Sun
01:07:46 Cronus
01:09:53 Time Devours All Things
01:11:13 Hexagrams Symbolize Saturn
01:12:00 Jordan Maxwell, The Cult of Saturn
01:20:53 Symbols of Satan
01:21:50 Communism is Satanism
01:22:46 Human Sacrifice
01:24:46 The Black Cube is Satan
01:26:00 The Order of the Black Snake
01:28:03 Washing the Mind
01:28:53 Baphomet
01:30:06 The Pope's Scepter
01:31:29 Lower Three Chakras
01:33:03 Androgyne Obsession
01:34:33 Usurping Innocence
01:36:13 Solve & Coagula
01:37:50 Distillation through Blood is Satanic
01:37:50 Rothschild Bank Takeover
01:39:46 Rothschild Family Tree (special video)
01:43:46 Jacob Rothschild and Marina Abramovic
01:44:59 Satan Summoning His Legions
01:46:59 Pernicious Usuary
01:47:26 Prima Nocte
01:48:03 European Royalty Regicide
01:48:43 Khazarians Play to the Death
01:49:03 Mafia M.O.
01:49:56 Expanding through Narcotics and Wars
01:52:29 Manufacturing Opium
01:53:43 Addicting and Bankrupting China
01:54:03 War Funds Wars
01:54:29 Russia Intervenes
01:55:06 Exploiting the Americas
01:56:13 Sugar Rebirths Slavery
01:57:33 Khazarian Mockery Clubs
01:59:23 Plotting Revenge
02:00:29 Empires of the Cities (special video)
02:03:53 US Government Takeover
02:05:00 The FED (special video)
02:05:33 Internal Revenue Service is Born
02:06:06 Babylonian Money Magik
02:07:46 USA is a Corporation not a Country (special video)
02:09:33 Bolshevik Revolution
02:11:19 Red Terror
02:14:26 Infiltrating Science
02:15:09 Operation Paperclip
02:17:43 Mind Controlling America
02:18:50 Normalizing Perversion
02:20:53 Wise to the Lies
02:21:23 The Light is in You
02:21:50 Poisoning a Society
02:22:39 Corrupt the Top to Control the Bottom
02:23:46 Netanyahu Khazarian Mafia Head of State
02:25:29 Taking Back Your Sovereignty

At times during the presentation Chuck Swindoll, Jr. uses the interesting Cult of Baal map designed by Dylan Louis Monroe as a guide: http://www.dylanlouismonroe.com/cult-of-baal.html



"This diagram reveals the history of a powerful Death Cult that has ruled Earth for all recorded human history. The timeline is trisected, and proceeds from top to bottom. Terms written in BOLD in the side margins correspond to the main terms inscribed on the central structure. Exposition and additional relevant information is presented in proximity to each bold term in the margin. On the bottom of this diagram you will find a separate "Deity Chart" which outlines analogous deities and deity attributes throughout Western cultures."

[grapevine]

Bloody 'ell BrightSkies - you might not post often but you make 'em count when you do ! i'll be on this all day . Thanks though :smile:

[Kryztian]

Dolly Parton on Neil Young's song After the Gold Rush:

I loved the song on Neil Young's [1970] album and I loved it when Prelude had it out in 1974. But I didn't know what the song meant. Linda [Ronstadt] and Emmy [Lou Harris] knew Neil, so we called him and asked him. He said, 'I have no idea.' I thought that was so funny. I think it's about the Second Coming or the invasion of aliens, or both.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=W2Taxuott5s

Well I dreamed I saw the silver
space ships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun
There were children crying
and colors flying
All around the chosen ones
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun
They were flying Mother Nature's
silver seed to a new home in the sun

The above song serves perfectly as the introduction to this video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4xxvDmoxwFw

[Bright Skies]

Posted by grapevine (here)
Bloody 'ell BrightSkies - you might not post often but you make 'em count when you do ! i'll be on this all day . Thanks though :smile:

Thanks a lot grapevine. I started writing and almost never stopped. But it was good to get all that down on paper, even just for my own benefit.

And I haven't yet finished watching the Khazarian Mafia: The God Eaters. That's going to be a weekend job (or maybe not since there's so much other stuff going on at the moment on the world stage to keep track of).

And thanks again to Kryztian for his research and to everyone else who have contributed to these threads.

Cheers and keep safe all!

[shaberon]

Posted by Bright Skies (here)
But his most popular videos are his presentations titled Khazarian Mafia: The God Eaters. Of course the Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry such as that detailed in Arthur Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe is disputed by some as a 'conspiracy theory'

Koestler himself said this was a hypothesis.

Only a few later writers have chosen to exalt this idea. But it doesn't work.

It stems from the old concept of "Israelism", that France and Britain are the direct descendants of "Lost Tribes".

In all likelihood, these "tribes" were decimated by the Assyrian Empire and fled to Iran, joining the Mountain Jews.

This was such an obsession, there is a belief that the Throne of the United Kingdom is the Throne of David.

In general, we are dealing with people who thought the world was created by a snap of the fingers around 4,004 B. C. E., and thus the Biblical patriarchs are the true sires of the human race and so on. This is like a reverse Messiah; rather than anticipating a future guarantee, it becomes mindless devotion to an imaginary vision of the past. Put the two together, and the present is an insanity sandwich.

On the other hand, Baal would reveal and expose it all, because Baal is the normal substrate of archaic Canaanite practices, which we can trace rather precisely. Zionism did not anticipate we might dig up the library of Ugarit.

On these matters, I would suggest to anyone that there are very extensive Semitic archives that give us a huge amount of detail starting around 2,300 B. C. E., which have nothing in common with the pile of Hebrew lore, which is about a thousand years younger. If you want to know how the world worked, you would have to dispose of all of its claims that pre-date the Assyrian Empire. It arose in a relative dark age in the wake of what I would call a historical nemesis well worth learning from, the Mycenean Palace System. But the Akkadian or Aramaic writings are considerably older than this, and include, for example, a bag of mail that had been sent hundreds of miles. One specimen has a lady complain to her husband that he spends too much time working abroad -- "I'd like to see you again before I die". It's very human.

Judaism flows from a specific event where a king had simply written a question to Baal Hadad about whether he would recover from illness. This was a standard medicine deity, because Hadad is cognate to the similar figure found in all these regions. Elijah decided it was inferior or objectionable, because, well, I can't give you any reason, other than he must have liked his cave a whole lot.

I, personally, don't get that in an existential sense. Having reviewed several inter-faith condemnations, as it were, they're not particularly robust, more like a series of complaints than an intellectual process. That's with respect to the "new" or "Messianic" systems; they disagree for reasons that are unclear, whereas the former system simply allowed for localized names of things that were basically the same, such as Sun, Moon, and Storms or Rain. They were dealing with personified powers of nature, rather than an idea or some words that tumbled out of the human brain.

[Kryztian]

Posted by Szymon (here)
Maybe this is a sign. Who knows. Easter is upon us. It’s interesting that Chris Bledsoe talks about the Ruby stone—what colour is ruby? What colour is the sky.....

Time will tell

An interesting confluence of events coming happening around now, centering especially this coming Sunday April 5th:

• Easter (April 5th) - commemorating an event that took place in Jerusalem. It will be interesting to see if Israeli authorities will allow this event to be celebrated in Jerusalem. They did not allow Cardinal Pizzaballa from celebrating Palm Sunday last week and there are usually hundreds of thousands of Christians that flock in that do.
  
  
• Eid al-Fitr (March 20/21) - although centered around Saudi Arabia, one of the mostly holy sites of Islam is the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. Israelis did not permit Moslems to visit this site on the holy day and have continued to keep it cordoned off. Israelis are also claiming the Iran might attack the mosque (which makes no sense) and there are rumors that Israel is secretly trying to destabilize the foundation of the building.
  
  
• Passover (April 1st to April 9th) - while Moslems and Christians have been prevented from accessing religious sites, Jews in Israel have full access to theirs.
  
  
• Chris Bledsoe's prophecy about "the alignment of the star Regulus with the gaze of the Sphinx in Egypt" which occurs on or around Easter 2026.
  
  
• The Artemis II lunar mission (April 1st to April 11th). It will be in the middle of its mission, passing by the mysterious dark side of the moon, around the time of Easter and the Bledsoe prophecy.

The sun rises in Cairo on Easter morning at 5:40 AM their local time. That would be 4:40 AM in London or 11:40 PM (the previous evening) in New York.

[Kryztian]

The version of "UFO Disclosure" that the Trump Administration may be leaking might just be the one that the dispensation pro-Zionists Christians want to hear and that will cause them to mobilize around the current administration.

Viral Claims of Secret Government Briefing to Pastors Ignite Fierce UFO Disclosure Debate
By James Lasher May 5, 2026
https://mycharisma.com/news/viral-cl...losure-debate/

A recent video from Perry Stone has ignited widespread debate across the UFO and disclosure community after the longtime prophecy preacher claimed pastors were privately warned about future government disclosures involving alleged extraterrestrial phenomena.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=37FQQdqvgCE

In the video, Stone said a trusted friend informed him that “a large number of pastors” had been invited to hear concerns from individuals connected to the U.S. government regarding information allegedly set to be released publicly.

“Some of the people who were in the meeting were telling us as pastors, you need to prepare your people and you need to get ready to answer them for what you’re about to hear being released,” Stone said.

Stone claimed the discussions involved “aliens,” “unidentified flying object spacecraft,” and “crafts that have been discovered that are not allegedly a part of our planet.” He also referenced reports of “very strange reptilian-looking creatures and other things that almost sound like something out of a sci-fi movie.”

The comments quickly spread across social media and online disclosure forums, where users began debating whether Stone’s remarks point to a larger coordinated effort involving future UFO revelations. Clips from the video have circulated widely among UFO researchers, prophecy channels and conspiracy-focused communities, fueling speculation about possible government disclosures and the role faith leaders may play in responding to public reaction.

Adding fuel to the proverbial social media firestorm, Alan DiDio of Revival Nation publicly backed Stone’s account on social media, writing, “I was in this meeting, and it’s absolutely true.”

Stone said the alleged disclosures could create two very different responses among the public. “You’re going to have people who are going to say if there are galaxies and there are allegedly other creations in the galaxies, then the whole creation story is a myth,” he said, while others would begin turning to churches for answers.

He also suggested the growing focus on UFO narratives could eventually be used to explain mysterious disappearances tied to biblical prophecy. “My son believes that this idea of people disappearing, they’re setting it up so that when the return of the Lord takes place, and people disappear, here’s how they’re going to explain it away. Alien invasion.”

As conversations surrounding UFOs, government disclosure, and unexplained phenomena continue to intensify, the moment serves as another reminder of the absolute necessity for spiritual discernment in these days.

Deception is running rampant across every facet of life these days, making it more important than ever for us to remain grounded in Scripture, seek wisdom through prayer and test every claim carefully rather than being swept away by fear, confusion or speculation.

[Kryztian]

Just a few hours after posting on the new Truth about Saturn thread, I stumble across this book "The Second Coming of Saturn: The Great Conjunction, America’s Temple, and the Return of the Watchers" by Derek P. Gilbert



From the book description on amazon.com

A new age began December 21, 2020. The Great Conjunction—a meeting in the sky of the planets Jupiter and Saturn—heralded the Age of Aquarius, a new golden age ruled by Saturn, the old god who once reigned over a world of peace and plenty. It’s a lie.

In the latest groundbreaking book from author and researcher Derek P. Gilbert, you will discover:

• Powerful people believe the stars have aligned to bring back the old god Saturn.
• Occult symbols embedded in the United States Capitol that point to the return of Saturn's reign.
• Why Lucifer is Saturn, not Satan.
• Evidence that Saturn was the leader of the rebellious "sons of God".
• The many names of Saturn over the last 6,000 years.
• New research that traces this fallen angel's cult back to Ararat—where Noah's ark came to rest.
• The identity of Apollyon, the angel of the bottomless pit.
• The connection between Mount Hermon, where the Watchers rebelled, and the Mount of Olives.
• Why this fallen angel may have been the high priest in Eden.
• Modern cults that venerate Saturn and work to create a new golden age of humans commingling with gods.
• Hidden Bible prophecies of God’s final judgment on Saturn and the Watchers.

Deep in the earth, this dark god plots and waits. A day is coming when he will be released from his chains. He and his minions will loose literal hell on earth—a time when people will long to die, but death will not come. This is the true "Golden Age" dreamed of for thousands of years—the return of Saturn's reign.

It seems that Mr. Gilbert has the ear of many conservative non-denominational Christians and may be helping to shape there understanding of "the end times".

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Here's an article about Derek Gilbert from the website of the "Revival Nation Church"

Are We Witnessing the Return of the Nephilim War in Israel?
https://revivalnation.com/blog/2025/...war-in-israel/

Is the war in Israel simply political, or is it something far more ancient? Author and researcher Derek Gilbert says the modern conflict is tied to a battle that began in the days of Joshua and the Nephilim.

Speaking with Alan DiDio on Revival Nation, Gilbert explained, “It is our contention—this was the belief by the way of the Jews of Jesus’ day and the early church—that demons were the spirits of those giants, the Nephilim, destroyed in the flood of Noah and that their cult was centered in ancient Bashan.”

That cult center, according to Gilbert, lies in the northern region of modern-day Israel, around Mount Hermon and the Golan Heights—known in antiquity as Bashan, the territory of King Og, the last of the Rephaim. “That area had been what was known not just to the Jews, but to the neighboring Canaanites as a place dedicated to the gods of the earth,” Gilbert said.

He pointed out the staggering number of megalithic structures in that region, saying, “There are a number of other locations—at least 12 other locations like Gilgal Rephaim. Similar giant rings of stone around a central core.” These sites, Gilbert believes, mark ancient strongholds of demonic influence.

Gilbert believes Jesus Himself deliberately confronted these dark powers. “Jesus basically declared war on these demonic spirits,” he said. “He walks his guys there 30 miles from his base of operations in Capernaum. That’s like a 14-hour hike in sandals across rough terrain. So you got to want to go there to make a specific point.”

From Jesus’ transfiguration on Mount Hermon to His declaration at Caesarea Philippi that “the gates of hell shall not prevail,” Gilbert says there’s a spiritual geography to Christ’s mission. “Where Jesus did what He did is just as important as what He did when He was there.”

As tensions escalate in Israel today, Gilbert asks listeners to consider the unseen war that may be raging alongside the one we see in headlines.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=W11JhE2nlI4

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According to Madame Blavatsky Saturn,Moloch and Baal all represent the same God.
We could probably slap the Gnostic term Yaldaboath on this same entity.

Here is the question.
Is it real?
People are so used to talking about this stuff with the framing of mythology no one ever stops to ask this question.
Is this entity the control mechanism referred to in the Watchawski movies?

Edgar Cayce talks about the war in Atlantis being between the children of light and the sons of Belial which is probably the same thing as Baal so Saturn worship goes back to Atlantis if you want to take Edgar Cayce seriously.

Human sacrifice is so universal all through history including contemporary history.
Is this all to Baal, Saturn?

Is Saturn a real thing, entity?

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Kim Iversen on the Pastor's briefing on UFOs: it's time to usher in a New World Order based on demonology:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lHTksrAlNvE