Hydrail

[shaberon]

What is this?






I found it on this Chinese website which is full of spelling errors and it looks fake.


It is really the people who are sending this to Malaysia:






who have that at home:





which is capable of:


emitting nothing but water.



Germany also has these and I hadn't noticed anything about it.

This is the same Hydrogen Fuel Cell that I personally devised thirty years ago. So did anyone else who was into weird science. You can make it out of water if you have enough input energy to electrolyze it. The hydrogen extraction was somewhat of a barrier and of course you have to be careful or you get the Hindenburg.

But that is it. Just as promised. It works.

This is why we lived in paranoia that General Motors would just put a bag over your head and drop you off in the Atacama Desert. American industry would not dare let such a thing go forward.

I am not sure how they obtain the Hydrogen, but, prospectively, I would think this system is far less hazardous than a battery system, in the sense of less likely to ignite itself.

Meanwhile, another American train goes off the rails in Philly.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by shaberon (here)
What is this?

That'll be a mining machine. (Or maybe, a machine that doesn't actually mine minerals per se, but cuts into rock and earth for new roads or rail track.)

Chinese trains are something astonishing. Many in the west still can't quite catch up with even knowing about any of this, let alone wrapping their brains around it. The same for the scale and capacity of all Chinese technology.

To compare Chinese trains with American trains says a LOT about the technical (and economic) conditions of both nations. To say the Chinese are the most technologically advanced country on Earth sounds like heresy — but it's true.

Here's one of many short videos, which are easy to find:

Chinese bullet train reaches 453 kph (281 mph) in test run

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iO8xubdcE7Q

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
What is this?That'll be a mining machine. (Or maybe, a machine that doesn't actually mine minerals per se, but cuts into rock and earth for new roads or rail track.)

Close--it dredges sea floors.

I stuck that in there while prowling the company's website, because, the company is so massive, it would be a full-time job just figuring out what it does.

Making websites in proper English is not part of their work, but, that does not seem to affect much.

High speed maglev is not really new, it is great, but it must draw an unseemly amount of power.

This Fuel Cell however is like a Messiah.

What I mean by "weird science" is pretty similar to Wade Frazier, who really went and did stuff that I could not press myself in to. That is why I never pursued the industry. The principle of the Fuel Cell is easy peasy, in fact, my friend modded a Brown's Gas generator into a Cadillac. This is a little different because you use the car's electrical system to hydrolize water, which gives you the extremely combustible mixture of H2 and O2. The Chinese however are building Hydrogen refill stations, and, ideally, you would want to be able to show that Hydrogen extraction requires less energy than the manufacture of gasoline or diesel.

We might want to double check, but, I believe the first combustion engine designed by Benz in the 1800s used hydrogen fuel.

The principle is certainly well-known, and, it has definitely been suppressed this whole time, maybe because it is cheaper than gas and does not require geo-political dominance and the threat of Peak Oil.

General Motors sabotaged the American rail system, which cannot be classed as a conspiracy, since they did so by legal means, which of course was to force you to buy a car.

These trams and trains are just getting started, it should be a huge announcement, but perhaps it would humiliate the oil men, or, undermine the careers of those who want to use batteries as the alternative.

[shaberon]

I was mistaken. A German Homeopath once told me that the city of Stuttgart had a fleet of hydrogen buses in the 1960s. It was not Benz that invented them, in fact the German automaker seems to find it does not scale down to personal cars to be cost effective. Trucks/buses on up. Here is a good Fastech bullet point history of these engines:



1806: The First Hydrogen-Powered Engine

The first internal combustion engine was powered not by gasoline but by a mix of hydrogen and oxygen in 1806. Swiss engineer Francois Isaac de Rivaz contained hydrogen gas in a balloon and used an electrical Volta starter for the ignition.

Unfortunately, the first hydrogen-powered car designed by Rivas the following year was a failure.

1860: Enter the Hippomobile - the First Hydrogen-Powered car

IIn 1860, Belgian inventor Etienne Lenoir developed the three-wheel Hippomobile -- the first functional hydrogen car. Lenoir created hydrogen by electrolyzing water, and the resulting hydrogen gas powered the one-cylinder, two-stroke engine.

Lenoir eventually sold 350-400 Hippomobiles, setting the stage for the first patented gas-fueled car invented by Karl Benz in 1886.

1889: The First Hydrogen Fuel Cells

While the first fuel cell was conceived in 1839, the term “fuel cell” was first used in 1889 by Ludwig Mond and Charles Langer, who built a fuel cell prototype using industrial coal gas and air.


The 1900s: Hydrogen Takes a Back Seat to Gasoline

While experiments in hydrogen-powered vehicles continued throughout the 20th century, the gasoline-powered combustion engine dominated the automotive industry. Nevertheless, hydrogen innovations evolved.

The 1930s: A New Hydrogen Vehicle Emerges

Fast-forward to 1933 and the birth of the next hydrogen vehicle. Norway’s Norsk Hydro power company developed a hydrogen-powered truck that used an internal combustion engine propelled by extracted hydrogen from an ammonia reformer.

In 1939, a British engineer named Francis T. Bacon developed a five-kilowatt fuel cell, the first mainstream fuel cell of the 20th century. However, it took Bacon twenty more years to refine his design to the point where the cell could power a welding machine.

1941: Gas Shortages Fuel Hydrogen Progress

In 1941, Russia converted 200 gasoline-powered trucks to run on hydrogen. Hydrogen gas burned cleaner and ran longer than gasoline, which was in short supply due to WWII fuel shortages.

1959: Fuel Cells Arrive

In 1959, a fuel cell powered a 2-horsepower tractor, the first of its kind. Then, in the early 1960s, GE produced a fuel-cell electrical power system for NASA’s space program. To this day, these hydrogen fuel cells provide drinking water for space crews during flight.

1966: General Motors Leads the Way

In 1966, General Motors’ Electrovan, one of the first fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEVs), used a fuel cell that combined liquid oxygen and supercooled liquid hydrogen. This innovation was the first step toward using pressurized hydrogen and oxygen derived from ambient air.

The 1970s: Environmental Concerns Prompt Efficiency Efforts

Concerns about air pollution and fuel shortages drove clean energy innovations. While hydrogen fuel cell cars were largely one-off demonstrations, several vehicle manufacturers experimented with FCEVs and created hydrogen storage systems.

The 1980s: Transport Applications Grow

The Navy began studying using fuel cells in submarines to utilize their efficient and stealthy operational qualities. Submarines powered by fuel cells can remain undetected underwater for up to three weeks.

1998: Iceland Goes Big on Hydrogen

In 1998, Iceland announced its plan to create a hydrogen economy. Iceland planned to convert all its public transportation vehicles to fuel-cell vehicles over ten years.

1999: Europe Explores Fuel Cell Technology Development

In 1999, the first commercial hydrogen station for trucks and cars opened in Germany. Meanwhile, Daimler Chrysler introduced its liquid hydrogen vehicle, the NECAR 4, to critical raves.

The 2000s: Modern Fuel Cells Revolutionize Hydrogen Technology

As the new millennium began, concerns over emissions, efficiency and energy security began to surface. Increased focus on reducing dependence on fossil fuels was a catalyst for revisiting the development of fuel cells as a sustainable energy source.

Hydrogen-Powered Public Transportation Goes Global

In 2018, Norway, China and parts of the UK began using fuel-cell buses and other hydrogen-powered vehicles. In addition, hydrogen plants began to spread, enabling countries like Australia to produce and export hydrogen fuel.

Major Automakers Make Investments in Hydrogen Car Development

The push to move away from fossil fuels has again sparked interest in hydrogen fuel cell technology. This push prompted auto manufacturers like Toyota and Hyundai BMW to develop and release hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.

As of February 2023, there were 56,000 passenger FCEVs out on the open road.

These makes and models (available in select markets) include:

Toyota Mirai (released in 2014)
Hyundai Nexo (released in 2018)
Honda FCX Clarity (produced from 2016 to 2021)
In addition, newer hydrogen cars in development include:

BMW iX5
Honda CR-V FCEV
Hyundai Staria Fuel Cell
Ineos Grenadier FCEV
Kia Fk/Hyundai FK
Kia Carnival FCEV
Load Rover Defender
Range Rover FCEV
Toyota Hilux Hydrogen

Fuel Cell Costs Decrease

According to the American Department of Energy (DoE), fuel cell costs have fallen by 80% since 2002. They also reported that further developments in fuel cell technology could put hydrogen car prices within an average consumer’s grasp within a decade.



So, the upswing is still that it is significantly more useful for mass transit, and, the United States does not have the infrastructure for mass transit. In the early 1900s, gas toakes over, General Motors killed passenger rail, and then someone invents a system running on liquified gases. This was not really leadership, Iceland is, at least by intent. Even the very earliest inventions were basically the same, electrolyzed water = Brown's Gas, H2 in free suspension with O2, which is terribly explosive.

The only issue might be how you get the hydrogen fuel, or the power for electrolysis, which would tell you if it is an energy negative. It should be obvious that the basic principle water in --> water out is probably one of the best gadgets ever designed by man, and, since passenger cars generally have a lower share of the fuel market than larger vehicles, that it would be more useful to focus on trains, buses, and trucks anyway.

[shaberon]

In addition, there is now a massive -- I guess you could call it a Hydrone:

A 7.5-tonne unmanned cargo aircraft powered by AEP100, China's independently developed megawatt-class hydrogen-fueled turboprop engine, successfully completed its maiden flight on Saturday at an airport in Zhuzhou, central China's Hunan Province.

This marks the world's first test flight of a megawatt-class hydrogen-fueled turboprop engine.

The engine operated normally and remained in good condition throughout the 16-minute test flight, according to the Aero Engine Corporation of China (AECC), its developer. The aircraft covered 36 km at 220 km/h, flying at an altitude of 300 meters. After completing all scheduled flight maneuvers, it returned safely.

Experts from the AECC noted that the successful maiden flight highlights that China has now established a complete technological chain in hydrogen-fueled aviation engines, covering everything from core components to full engine integration. They added that this achievement lays the foundation for the industrial application of hydrogen energy in aviation.

As green hydrogen production costs fall, hydrogen aviation engines will show growing economic and energy security advantages, experts said. Hydrogen-fueled aero engine technology is expected to debut in low-altitude economy fields such as unmanned air freight and island logistics, before gradually expanding to regional and mainline aircraft.

This technology will drive coordinated upgrades across industrial clusters, including upstream green hydrogen production, midstream storage, transportation and refueling infrastructure, and downstream high-end equipment and new materials. Ultimately, it will propel the green, low-carbon, and high-quality development of China's aviation industry, experts added.

[Ravenlocke]

I am placing the following here as it is related to green hydrogen, but it is not about trains.


Fuel Cells Works

Indian startup unveils a #hydrogen cooker powered by ~100 ml of water and 1 kWh for up to 6 hours. Using PEM electrolysis, it generates hydrogen on demand—no gas, just clean flame and water vapor.

#HydrogenNow #CleanEnergy #Innovation

https://fcw.sh/yCgvdJ

https://x.com/fuelcellsworks/status/2046573863463535000

[Ravenlocke]

Fuel Cells Works

Apr 24
Tokyo Launches Japan's First Government-Operated #Hydrogen Fuel Cell Ships--The Tokyo Metropolitan Government has completed Japan's first hydrogen #fuelcell vessels operated by a government agency — the "Tokyo Mirai Maru" for port operations and the "Tsukiji ZERO" for river construction supervision — both powered by hydrogen fuel cell and lithium-ion battery hybrid systems producing zero CO₂ during operation.

Read more here: https://fcw.sh/9pLMQr

#HydrogenEnergy #CleanTech #ZeroEmissions #SustainableTransport #Hydrogen

https://x.com/fuelcellsworks/status/2047696667722305556

[Ravenlocke]

Hi,GBA

Apr 24
⛽ Guangdong’s 1st expressway hydrogen station is open!​
At Nanxiangshan East Service Area (Huadu‑Dongguan Expy) in Guangzhou. Built in just 41 days, it can fuel ~100 hydrogen trucks daily—no more highway exits for refueling!
🚚 Logistics firms in the eastern Pearl River Delta can now cut time and costs. A key step in Guangzhou’s 2021–2030 hydrogen roadmap.

#Hydrogen #CleanEnergy #Guangzhou #Logistics #GreenTransport #Expressway #RenewableEnergy #China #Innovation #SupplyChain

👇 Full story: https://newsgd.com/node_99363c4f3b/1c883a21d9.shtml

https://x.com/thisisGBA/status/2047585708421083254

https://www.newsgd.com/node_99363c4f3b/1c883a21d9.shtml

41 days! Guangdong opens its first expressway hydrogen refueling station in service area

The first hydrogen refueling station located inside an expressway service area in Guangdong Province has been completed at the Nanxiangshan East Service Area on the Huadu–Dongguan Expressway in Zengcheng District, Guangzhou City. Construction of the facility, operated by Yuntao Hydrogen Energy, began on March 3 and finished on April 13, a timeline of just 41 days.

The station fills a gap in the province's expressway hydrogen supply network. Hydrogen-powered vehicles traveling across the eastern Pearl River Delta will no longer need to exit the expressway to refuel, addressing a longstanding logistical barrier that has hindered cross-city freight transport.
The facility is a skid-mounted station employing established hydrogen fueling technology. It has a maximum daily supply capacity of 1.8 tonnes, sufficient to serve approximately 100 hydrogen logistics vehicles. The station's projected annual economic output exceeds 16 million yuan.
A logistics operator in Zengcheng District said the station removes a significant operational bottleneck. "Previously, our hydrogen trucks had to detour to an industrial park for refueling, which cost a lot of time," said the manager, identified only by his surname, Luo. "With this station operational, we can not only cover Zengcheng but also connect more of the eastern Pearl River Delta expressway logistics network."
The station's opening aligns with Guangzhou's hydrogen infrastructure development plan for the 2021–2030 period. The Zengcheng District urban management bureau stated that further steps will be taken to refine the regional refueling network and address remaining operational challenges as part of broader efforts to support hydrogen industry growth in the province.
Author | Feng Huiting

[Ravenlocke]

Reuters

Apr 21
India and China are making massive bets to harness renewable energy at a time when the West has quietly backed away from its ambitious green hydrogen goals from the start of this decade after cost constraints proved stickier than anticipated

https://x.com/Reuters/status/2046828190706860407

[Ravenlocke]

People's Daily, China

Mar 5, 2025
China's first batch of 200kW hydrogen fuel cell-powered heavy-duty trucks has recently rolled off the production line in north China's Tianjin. The batch is the first 100 units of a plan to produce 600 such lighter-weight trucks, each boasting a maximum range of over 700 km.

https://x.com/PDChina/status/1897467166770778271

[Ravenlocke]

People's Daily, China

China's independently developed, world's first 30-MW pure hydrogen gas turbine has begun operation in north China's Inner Mongolia, achieving stable power generation solely using hydrogen.
Integrating wind power, photovoltaic energy, and a water electrolysis hydrogen production system, the project can reduce carbon emissions by more than 200,000 tonnes annually compared with a thermal power generating unit of the same capacity. It can generate 48,000 kWh of electricity per hour when operating in combined-cycle mode, enough to meet the daily demand of 5,500 households.

https://x.com/PDChina/status/2005889086884635064

[Ravenlocke]

ShanghaiEye🚀official

Apr 20
Chinese companies that make equipment to produce green #hydrogen are seeing an increase in demand lately. As the global leader in green hydrogen production, #China has established a complete industrial chain for the energy, from production and storage to transportation and application

https://x.com/ShanghaiEye/status/2046166989408747897

[Ravenlocke]

Bloomberg

Mar 16
China is to launch a pilot program to bring the average price of hydrogen for end-users to below 25 yuan per kilogram by 2030

https://x.com/business/status/2033487698170671579

[Ravenlocke]

What is green hydrogen?

https://www.iberdrola.com/sustainability/green-hydrogen


Green hydrogen: an alternative that reduces emissions and cares for our planet

Our way of life needs an increasing amount of watts to function. The war in Ukraine has caused a global energy crisis due to the lack of fossil fuels. This has led to an unprecedented rise in the price of natural gas and coal, causing Europe to import much more liquefied natural gas than usual, with the attendant problem of worsening climate change. However, decarbonising the planet suggests a different world in 2050: one that is more accessible, efficient and sustainable, and driven by clean energies such as green hydrogen.



What is green hydrogen an how is it obtained?

This technology is based on the generation of hydrogen — a universal, light and highly reactive fuel — through a chemical process known as electrolysis. This method uses an electrical current to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen in water. If this electricity is obtained from renewable sources we will, therefore, produce energy without emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

As the IEA points out, this method of obtaining green hydrogen would save the 830 million tonnes of CO2 that are emitted annually when this gas is produced using fossil fuels. Likewise, replacing all grey hydrogen in the world would require 3,000 TWh/year from new renewables — equivalent to current demand of Europe. However, there are some questions about the viability of green hydrogen because of its high production cost; reasonable doubts that will disappear as the decarbonisation of the earth progresses and, consequently, the generation of renewable energy becomes cheaper.
SEE INFOGRAPHIC: How is green hydrogen obtained? [PDF] External link, opens in new window.

Hydrogen as clean energy

Hydrogen is the most abundant chemical element in nature. As noted by the IEA, the global demand for hydrogen for use as a fuel has tripled since 1975 and reached 70 million tonnes a year in 2018. In addition, green hydrogen is a clean energy source that only emits water vapour and leaves no residue in the air, unlike coal and oil.

Hydrogen has a long-standing relationship with industry. This gas has been used to fuel cars, airships and spaceships since the beginning of the 19th century. The decarbonisation of the world economy, a process that cannot be postponed, will give hydrogen more prominence. In addition, if its production costs fall by 50 % by 2030, as predicted by the World Hydrogen Council, we will undoubtedly be looking at one of the fuels of the future. International Day of Clean Energy highlights the importance of clean energy technologies for a more sustainable future.

Advantages and disadvantages of green hydrogen

This energy source has pros and cons that we must be aware of. Let's go over some of its most important good points:

100 % sustainable: green hydrogen does not emit polluting gases either during combustion or during production.
Storable: hydrogen is easy to store, which allows it to be used subsequently for other purposes and at times other than immediately after its production.
Versatile: green hydrogen can be transformed into electricity or synthetic gas and used for commercial, industrial or mobility purposes.
However, green hydrogen also has negative aspects that should be borne in mind:

High cost: energy from renewable sources, which are key to generating green hydrogen through electrolysis, is more expensive to generate, which in turn makes hydrogen more expensive to obtain.
High energy consumption: the production of hydrogen in general and green hydrogen in particular requires more energy than other fuels.
Safety issues: hydrogen is a highly volatile and flammable element and extensive safety measures are therefore required to prevent leakage and explosions.
Impact of green hydrogen

Hydrogen as a fuel is a reality in countries like the United States, Russia, China, France and Germany. Others like Japan are going even further and aspire to become a hydrogen economy. Below we explain what the impact will be in the future:


Electricity and drinking water generator
These two elements are obtained by reacting hydrogen and oxygen together in a fuel cell. This process has proved very useful on space missions, for example, by providing crews with water and electricity in a sustainable manner.


Energy storage
Compressed hydrogen tanks are capable of storing energy for long periods of time and are also easier to handle than lithium-ion batteries because they are lighter.


Transport and mobility
Hydrogen's great versatility allows it to be used in those consumption niches that are very difficult to decarbonise, such as heavy transport, aviation and maritime transport. There are already several projects under way in this area, such as Hycarus and Cryoplane, which are promoted by the European Union (EU) and aim to introduce it in passenger aircraft.


Iberdrola leads the development of green hydrogen

In its commitment to driving the energy transition, Iberdrola is leading the development of green hydrogen with three projects currently in operation in Spain and a fourth one scheduled to come online in 2026. The group is actively working on several projects – including e-methanol and green ammonia– in locations such as Europe, Australia or Brazil to respond to the needs of decarbonisation. As it did with renewables 20 years ago, the company has become a 'first mover' in this new technological challenge that involves the production and supply of green hydrogen.

Iberdrola is already developing projects that will enable the decarbonisation of industry (refineries, fertilisers, chemicals…)and heavy transport, as well as developing its value chain.

After establishing a solid foundation with real green hydrogen projects, Iberdrola is now taking the next step to develop projects at scale. In addition, Iberdrola has submitted numerous projects to various subsidy schemes at both European and global levels, achieving success in many of these programmes to secure funding support for our initiatives.

[Ravenlocke]

OMGFacts
Apr 23
⚡ Japan just ran a gas turbine on 30% hydrogen fuel at grid scale.

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries tested the turbine at the world's first facility combining hydrogen production, storage, and power generation in one place

🔬 Why it's a big deal: ✨ Cuts CO2 by ~10% ✨ No full inf

https://x.com/OMGFacts/status/2047386366267277762

[Ravenlocke]

People's Daily, China

Apr 28, 2025
China topped the world with its annual hydrogen production and consumption exceeding 36.5 million tonnes in 2024. The country also led the world in renewable energy-based hydrogen production, taking up over 50% of the global capacity that totaled more than 250,000 tonnes by end-2024, according to a report released on Monday.

https://x.com/PDChina/status/1916756770892206320

[Ravenlocke]

Fuel Cells Works

Apr 24
Qair opens its first renewable #hydrogen station in Béziers, France, at the A9/A75 junction—built for real heavy transport demand. With 600 kg/day capacity, it supports buses & trucks as part of a growing regional ecosystem.

#H2Now #CleanEnergy #Mobility

https://fcw.sh/XoQWm0

https://x.com/fuelcellsworks/status/2047700979613683886

[Ravenlocke]

Fuel Cells Works
@fuelcellsworks
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Apr 24
Germany extends #hydrogen refueling funding deadline to June 30, 2026 amid high demand. A webinar on April 29 will guide applicants on funding, vehicles, infrastructure & pricing.

#Hydrogen #CleanTransport #EnergyTransition

https://fcw.sh/fgL4C3

https://x.com/fuelcellsworks/status/2047675169192185986

[Ravenlocke]

Fuel Cells Works

Apr 24
Robinson’s #hydrogen fuel cell R44 takes “up-and-away” flights beyond Bromont, Canada. Tests refine #fuelcell–battery balance and assess nacelle impact on stability & drag—key for a #zeroemission R66.

#HydrogenNow #Aviation #CleanEnergy

https://fcw.sh/r76LPA

https://x.com/fuelcellsworks/status/2047681896801243517

[Ravenlocke]

Fuel Cells Works

Apr 24
#Hydrogen Buses Enter Regular Service in German Cities-- Cottbusverkehr and Spree-Neiße-Cottbusverkehr are pleased to announce to their passengers and the residents of Cottbus and the Spree-Neiße district another important step on the way to sustainable and future-oriented mobility: Starting next week, four new hydrogen buses will begin test operations in regular public transport for the first time.

Read more here:

https://x.com/fuelcellsworks/status/2047656943393632533