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    Default Re: Consent : Conscious Choice : Are You Sovereign or Not Sovereign?

    Quote Posted by Harmony (here)
    Casey, I understand your above post is in response to Delight post. I think I am understanding a little more about being "Sovereign" from what you have written above:
    Quote Re: Obedience

    I, myself, would not insert this particular conceptual flavor, but I can also easily include it in with those I would and have : that of ACCEPTANCE, ALLOWANCE.

    Obedience, allowance, acceptance, IS ALWAYS OF/TO ONESELF - to who one is and who they have been designed to be.

    If, for example, one is of a positive orientation/service <— then acceptance is to this; what does it mean? it means, to me, fundamentally, that I work in service to the whole (not just myself) and that I do not infringe upon free-will. If, to extend the example, I am invited to 1) surrender my service, 2) serve negatively, 3) de-polarize myself ... I ACCEPT WHO I AM ( I am sovereign; all are sovereign ), I allow myself to be who I am and to work in service to the whole, not infringing upon the free-will of any to the best of my current capacity. In surrendering to who I am, and to my service, I am not infringing upon the free-will of those who make such invitations; their will is their will, I accept their sovereignty and what is their sovereign right to choose, even if the choice is negative and my enslavement their aim. It is in the mix of all this that each one of us must surrender to who we are. It is why it is of such great importance to find this out.

    Let me pause here a moment, and ask if any of this is making sense?

    There is a great deal more that could be brought to light.
    If we are to be who we are it is ok to not approve of anothers seemingly negative behaviour, accept it for what it is but ok to respond as in the following short video clip:
    Thank you, Harmony, this is good for me to hear

    Movie making can tend to include (some) truth but mixed with inaccuracy. I like the example above, yet would add that the dramatic "you shall not pass" takes the quality down somewhat. Love-and-Acceptance is what it is, it has its own gravity; focusing the attention, adamantly, unwaveringly in on this is all that is ever required. You see? were the negative, a "greeting from the dark" to approach too closely it could get caught in this gravity. There is no "shall not" in the POSITIVE ( ie: Love-and-Acceptance ), there is only what this is. BE this, and all who approach near enough will be enveloped. This said, we've all got some ways to go before focus is this unwavering. In that middle ground, where we may still be in the process of identifying/choosing our polarity and learning what it is/means we do the best we can. Gandalf the grey, remember, has yet to transform into Gandalf the white.
    "Love is what is left when you let go of everything you no longer need." —Raj

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    Default Re: Consent : Conscious Choice : Are You Sovereign or Not Sovereign?

    Thank you Casey for your reply. I do always appreciate your perspective, and I am very much Gandalf the grey and not the white for sure.


    I was looking at Gandalf (in that video clip) as being of service to his friends, and not putting up with the nonsense of the negative polarity. It reminded me of what you have mentioned in some OBE's expressed in your videos, when you see something that comes across as negative you run towards it with courage and no fear.


    I have had to deal with a few things like that in "real ?" life, some kind of strength that comes from beyond, that later leaves your legs shaking. Love for family or animals or others creates the courage to go beyond your normal comfort zone.



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    Quote Movie making can tend to include (some) truth but mixed with inaccuracy. I like the example above, yet would add that the dramatic "you shall not pass" takes the quality down somewhat. Love-and-Acceptance is what it is, it has its own gravity; focusing the attention, adamantly, unwaveringly in on this is all that is ever required. You see? were the negative, a "greeting from the dark" to approach too closely it could get caught in this gravity. There is no "shall not" in the POSITIVE ( ie: Love-and-Acceptance ), there is only what this is. BE this, and all who approach near enough will be enveloped. This said, we've all got some ways to go before focus is this unwavering. In that middle ground, where we may still be in the process of identifying/choosing our polarity and learning what it is/means we do the best we can. Gandalf the grey, remember, has yet to transform into Gandalf the white.

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    Default Re: Consent : Conscious Choice : Are You Sovereign or Not Sovereign?

    People often despise the word "surrender" but sovereignty can take that word to a different level. Implying total trust in higher self, Source, the process...

    AA folks deem it "Let go and let God"
    Hippies came up with "Go with the flow"
    I have heard some say, when you are ready to jump, the safety net appears. No fear!

    The concept of "surrender" can at times be totally transformative - like the caterpillar -> chrysalis -> butterfly.
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    Default Re: Consent : Conscious Choice : Are You Sovereign or Not Sovereign?

    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    People often despise the word "surrender" but sovereignty can take that word to a different level. Implying total trust in higher self, Source, the process...

    AA folks deem it "Let go and let God"
    Hippies came up with "Go with the flow"
    I have heard some say, when you are ready to jump, the safety net appears. No fear!

    The concept of "surrender" can at times be totally transformative - like the caterpillar -> chrysalis -> butterfly.
    Surrendering to the Divine is IMO what will save us. The way it started for me was being able to FEEL the Presence one night. I now can bring the FEELING at any moment I turn to it. What I imagine is that all of us who even have an inkling of being with God are SURROUNDED by something like a sacred net that is real.

    The ideologies of the mind have been cracking and IMO this has us turn to God. Since God IS, whether one believes (mind stuff) or whatever one believes, IMO the trap has always been that since we cannot know God, God is somewhere else and we are alone. The Christ energy of personal knowable relationship isn't just for one area of of our life as human. IT is BEING Human in ESSENCE because it shares the perfected essential nature Of LIFE expressed through us. I expect that full immersion is where true SOVEREIGNS reside. We have free will and imagination and it is our gifte to create from imagination. IMO RELATIONSHIP between us and God CREATES and sharing with God what we love opens up an unknown and yet very known "place" that is what my heart knows is possible. That realm is where Sovereigns live.

    Why not LIVE Sovereign now? Surrender to a new state.

    IMO it just takes surrender to what is, beyond the mind's constructs. That takes the LEAST LITTLE invitation to God by acknowledging oneself I AM and saying YES. God IS> THIS IS Divine world NOW. IMO

    The Divine "natural law" is that we fulfill our destiny as human being, to express fully our Divine spark. AND we must CHOOSE this state! IMO
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    Default Re: Consent : Conscious Choice : Are You Sovereign or Not Sovereign?

    My apologies to everyone, I have been aiming at getting here! (quite unsuccessfully). Let me begin, even if I may not be able to finish here today. One moment >>>
    "Love is what is left when you let go of everything you no longer need." —Raj

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    Quote Posted by Harmony (here)
    Thank you Casey for your reply. I do always appreciate your perspective, and I am very much Gandalf the grey and not the white for sure.


    I was looking at Gandalf (in that video clip) as being of service to his friends, and not putting up with the nonsense of the negative polarity. It reminded me of what you have mentioned in some OBE's expressed in your videos, when you see something that comes across as negative you run towards it with courage and no fear.


    I have had to deal with a few things like that in "real ?" life, some kind of strength that comes from beyond, that later leaves your legs shaking. Love for family or animals or others creates the courage to go beyond your normal comfort zone.



    from Casey:
    Quote Movie making can tend to include (some) truth but mixed with inaccuracy. I like the example above, yet would add that the dramatic "you shall not pass" takes the quality down somewhat. Love-and-Acceptance is what it is, it has its own gravity; focusing the attention, adamantly, unwaveringly in on this is all that is ever required. You see? were the negative, a "greeting from the dark" to approach too closely it could get caught in this gravity. There is no "shall not" in the POSITIVE ( ie: Love-and-Acceptance ), there is only what this is. BE this, and all who approach near enough will be enveloped. This said, we've all got some ways to go before focus is this unwavering. In that middle ground, where we may still be in the process of identifying/choosing our polarity and learning what it is/means we do the best we can. Gandalf the grey, remember, has yet to transform into Gandalf the white.
    Harmony,

    I so appreciate you continuing the discussion with me.

    There is a very interesting component of the POSITIVE path, in that, as it is in service to the whole ( which includes all no matter the chosen service ) it is less-than-otherwise sided. The positive orientation seeks to see all as The One, accept all as The One, love all as The One. So ... Gandalf - in the video clip - working in service to the whole (not just his friends) is surrendering himself ( Gandalf the grey ) to The One, The Great Mystery, as a potential candidate for greater service, himself as Gandalf the white. Do you see? In my own case, in the OBEs you mention, I can hardly claim this. I more simply cannot abide the fear, or allow it to remain, so I run at it, rather than away; this in itself tends to obliterate fear at the being level so that I am never quite faced with what I had thought. One foot in front of the other, though, right?
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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    People often despise the word "surrender" but sovereignty can take that word to a different level. Implying total trust in higher self, Source, the process...

    AA folks deem it "Let go and let God"
    Hippies came up with "Go with the flow"
    I have heard some say, when you are ready to jump, the safety net appears. No fear!

    The concept of "surrender" can at times be totally transformative - like the caterpillar -> chrysalis -> butterfly.
    Sue,

    Yes!, it is quite so. Surrender is always to the S/self, and if positively oriented, in the highest light and greatest good of one-and-all.

    I could not have ( consciously ) experienced any of what I have beyond the local had surrender not been at its basis. To go out beyond where one is now, surrender to what lays beyond is requisite. It is from this that one is able to more purely witness, notice, observe <— and utilize this in a way, or ways which are universally of potential benefit to us all.

    At the center of it all is Unity, Oneness, Sovereignty Itself.
    "Love is what is left when you let go of everything you no longer need." —Raj

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    People often despise the word "surrender" but sovereignty can take that word to a different level. Implying total trust in higher self, Source, the process...

    AA folks deem it "Let go and let God"
    Hippies came up with "Go with the flow"
    I have heard some say, when you are ready to jump, the safety net appears. No fear!

    The concept of "surrender" can at times be totally transformative - like the caterpillar -> chrysalis -> butterfly.
    Surrendering to the Divine is IMO what will save us. The way it started for me was being able to FEEL the Presence one night. I now can bring the FEELING at any moment I turn to it. What I imagine is that all of us who even have an inkling of being with God are SURROUNDED by something like a sacred net that is real.

    The ideologies of the mind have been cracking and IMO this has us turn to God. Since God IS, whether one believes (mind stuff) or whatever one believes, IMO the trap has always been that since we cannot know God, God is somewhere else and we are alone. The Christ energy of personal knowable relationship isn't just for one area of of our life as human. IT is BEING Human in ESSENCE because it shares the perfected essential nature Of LIFE expressed through us. I expect that full immersion is where true SOVEREIGNS reside. We have free will and imagination and it is our gifte to create from imagination. IMO RELATIONSHIP between us and God CREATES and sharing with God what we love opens up an unknown and yet very known "place" that is what my heart knows is possible. That realm is where Sovereigns live.

    Why not LIVE Sovereign now? Surrender to a new state.

    IMO it just takes surrender to what is, beyond the mind's constructs. That takes the LEAST LITTLE invitation to God by acknowledging oneself I AM and saying YES. God IS> THIS IS Divine world NOW. IMO

    The Divine "natural law" is that we fulfill our destiny as human being, to express fully our Divine spark. AND we must CHOOSE this state! IMO
    Delight,

    This is beautiful, and beautifully articulated. ( You are a Bhakti )

    Re: The sentence in bold— Yes, if by "Divine" it is meant a Deeper Order of one's own being I do agree with the sentiment, and would add, that from potential perspectives beyond that of the planetary-level, the resulting "separation" via the veil now in place here by those who ( at those being-levels ) surrendered what quite neutrally can be called "the fall" into accelerated potential growth patterns, paradigms such as we have here as our 3D Earth-life experience are also part-and-parcel to the "saving", for a more slow/static kind of growth potential ( such as in unveiled areas of consciousness/the-dimensional-existence ) can be just as equally paralyzing and taking on of decay. There is great purpose in all areas of this whole structure.

    The One ( Cosmic Consciousness ) is all there is of any of what is within this.
    God ( Cosmic Consciousness ) is all there is you, of me, this laptop, +/- orientations, etc..
    This is Oneness, Unity, Sovereignty

    This is the realization.

    Once it presents, it is a matter of how it will be applied and put to work within ourself.

    A matter of how we, ourself, will embody the realization.

    What manner of becoming we will actualize.

    There is only the here and now.
    "Love is what is left when you let go of everything you no longer need." —Raj

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