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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Now Over 25 Years Later

    Within the past month I came across online information regarding the Epstein files going dark (i.e. missing) at around the time of 9/11. I was just trying to locate that information again, but couldn't find it. (It might have been an episode by Tucker Carlson.) There's something nagging me about this. Because 9/11 was an incredibly complex and sophisticated operation that had to include hundreds of operatives plus hundreds of high level USA officials. Most people (including I) are at first reluctant to look into claims that 9/11 was an inside job as the first thing that comes to mind is, if this was really true, then that would involve some many people and chances are that somebody among them would have talked.

    Then comes the Jeffrey Epstein blackmail operation, obviously for Israel's benefit. I think it's becoming clearer by the day that Epstein's was some sort of central psyop, blackmail, and financial agent for Israel to socially engineer americans and keep the key actors silent. It may well have been a big part of the 9/11 set up. I think it probably was.

    Because the files that have been released so far are about the abuse of children, which is horrible enough, but not enough apparently to get the criminals charged. However, the american public would most likely be aroused and enraged if they were to find out that Epstein's network was financing the science and covert operation of 9/11, in addition to the blackmailing. Could be where Rumsfeld's missing trillions were sank into.

    I'm looking forward to see that article by Whitney Webb mentioned by Tintin above.

    In the meantime, if anyone knows where to find the information about Epstein's 'missing' 9/11 files, please let us know here.

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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Now Over 25 Years Later

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    In the meantime, if anyone knows where to find the information about Epstein's 'missing' 9/11 files, please let us know here.
    It would seem that it started on Reddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/com..._volume_audit/

    And at one point Chris Martenson promoted it:

    https://x.com/chrismartenson/status/2023475213862924793

    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 6th October 2026 at 14:32. Reason: embedded the tweet
    Normal..!

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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Now Over 25 Years Later

    The shameful HSBC money laundering shows how the "top brass" now rub shoulders with the underworld crime syndicates and that the rest of us are sandwiched between (very highly) Organised Crime. It's (probably) always been this way and will continue until the end of this civilisation/cycle. What I really don't understand is why whistleblowers are being victimised at all because, let's face it, just about everything is corrupted and we're too apathetic or powerless to do anything about it.
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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Now Over 25 Years Later

    Quote Posted by lake (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    In the meantime, if anyone knows where to find the information about Epstein's 'missing' 9/11 files, please let us know here.
    It would seem that it started on Reddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/com..._volume_audit/

    And at one point Chris Martenson promoted it:

    https://x.com/chrismartenson/status/2023475213862924793

    Thanks you very much Lake, this is it!

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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Now Over 25 Years Later

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    Thanks for the upload. Here's a better, stabilised view of it. I couldn't manage for some reason to embed this clip, which I finally managed to track down, so I uploaded it to the server. It's only 2mb.

    Splendid, well done Yes, a much better copy.

    Unrelated to the film, but an often recurring thought: I think, time permitting, that I need to try and get a better fix on how Jeffrey Epstein fitted into this whole operation. Given his close association with Lutnick he had to have been a key player; the money point-man and Mossad agent extraordinaire.
    Re the video: here's also a link to this footage at the beginning of this video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtbZPefASc&rco=1
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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Now Over 25 Years Later

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    In post # 248 above, Tintin posted a video from Farsight Institute entitled: "Remote Viewing 9/11: Part 1 - The World Trade Center Attacks"

    Here's the second part:

    "According to remote-viewing data collected at The Farsight Institute in one of the most revolutionary projects ever, this is the story of what really happened during the terror attacks that occurred in the United States on the 11th of September, 2001. This is Part 2 of a two-part documentary, and in this part the focus is on the Pentagon attack that occurred in Washington, D.C. on that infamous day, as well as the organization and personnel of those who engineered the joint World Trade Center (in New York) and Pentagon attacks.
    Combining two of the best remote viewers on the planet currently, using U.S. military derived methodologies for perceiving across time and space, and working within a scientifically clean and totally blind experimental design, we now have new eyewitness reports that change everything we were originally told about the 9/11 events."

    Remote Viewing 9/11: Part 2 - The Pentagon Attacks and the Organization
    Many thanks for this Rizotto

    I watched it yesterday, and this is pure speculation on my part: during one of the segments from Dick Allgire, who was trying to perceive the operation command centre, he was drawn to probe on the people in a room; he referred to this individual as 'Human 1', the one who seemed to have overall command. Dick referred to him as (paraphrasing): "...a cold bastard, with a searing stare." Admittedly, as is often the way with how they present themselves, so many of the power elite do have a tendency to nearly always dress in a very uniform way, and quite often almost appear to even look very similar.

    At the point he creates what could almost be termed a photofit sketch he produced a representation that has an alarming resemblance to (the now late) Theodore ('Ted') G. Shackley. No disrespect intended here, in any way, but his perception does bear an uncanny similarity to photos of Shackley:







    ___________________________

    Just putting it out there, but if any of you haven't watched the video this will probably not really mean much, and of course I could be completely wrong. However, his career profile is, I'd say, a good match to Dick's probe summation on character.

    Here's a related article from Kevin Ryan which triggered the 'recognition' if you like:

    Text:
    Any investigation into 9/11 should consider the parallel activities of Wirt Walker and “private CIA” leader Ted Shackley. Both men were strongly linked to the Bush family network and to Kuwait.
    and...
    Wirt Walker III, CEO of WTC security company Stratesec, has an interesting family background. His father Wirt II worked at the DIA and before that at the CIA’s photographic analysis center NPIC that worked on two different versions of the Zapruder film.
    The JFK parallels to 9/11 are of course pellucid to those of us who have analysed these conspiracies over the years.

    The article: https://911truth.org/cia-kuwait-parallels-911-suspect/

    The CIA in Kuwait: Parallels to a 9/11 Suspect
    By Kevin Ryan
    Published: April 9th, 2014

    [Excerpts]
    As discussed in my book, Another Nineteen, there are good reasons to believe that some 9/11 suspects were involved in previous deep state operations. For example, evidence suggests that Stratesec manager Barry McDaniel and Carlyle Group director Frank Carlucci might have participated in the Iran-Contra crimes. There are also interesting links between several 9/11 suspects and Ted Shackley, a leader of the “CIA within the CIA.” Shackley was close friends with Frank Carlucci and had a long, close relationship with Richard Armitage, whose State department provided express visas to the alleged hijackers. Additionally, Porter Goss, who led the initial cover-up of the 9/11 crimes, had worked with Shackley in several CIA operations.

    Perhaps the most interesting historical link between Shackley and 9/11 is that Shackley’s activities in Kuwait paralleled those of Wirt Walker, the KuwAm Corporation director. KuwAm was the parent company of Stratesec, the security company for several 9/11 facilities. As I’ve written before, these companies appeared to be part of a private intelligence network. (related article: KuwAm and Stratesec: Directors and Investors That Link 9/11 to a Private Intelligence Network published February 24th, 2012)

    ...

    Shackley had a long career in covert CIA operations and was the agency’s Associate Deputy Director of Operations from 1976 to 1977. Described by former CIA Director Richard Helms as “a quadruple threat – Drugs, Arms, Money and Murder,” Shackley was a central character in many off-the-books operations. He was a leader of the CIA’s anti-Castro plan Operation Mongoose, its secret U.S. war in Laos, and the overthrow of Salvadore Allende in Chile.

    ...

    After leaving the CIA in 1979, Shackley formed his own company, TGS International, which appeared to be focused on obtaining access to places like Kuwait and Iran. TGS functioned as a broker for Boeing 747 aircraft, attempted to sell various goods to Iran, and did construction work in Kuwait. Several of TGS’ shareholders were Iranian exiles, including former SAVAK agent Novzar Razmara.

    ...

    Any investigation into 9/11 should consider the parallel activities of Wirt Walker and “private CIA” leader Ted Shackley. These men were strongly linked to the Bush family network and to Kuwait. Although Walker is certainly a suspect in 9/11 insider trading, his known connections to the CIA are currently only familial. However, if Walker was operating in the same private network as Shackley before 9/11, it would give reason to believe that, like Shackley’s cohorts Armitage, Carlucci, and Goss, the security company Stratesec and its leaders should be a primary focus of a new 9/11 investigation.



    The following description reminded me of Donald H. Rumsfeld:


    Dick Algire described a man in a position of charge during his remote viewing as:


    - A man that was at an expensive high desk and that he liked working at a high desk and did not like sitting down, he stood rigidly and a very tense man.


    -He dressed in good shirts, cuff links, ties with button down collars?, tailored pants and he had taken his jacket off during the time Dick Algire remote viewed this target.


    -Intense eyes, glasses with wire frame or no frames, straight nose, thin mouth, some lines visible at the sides of nose to outer edges of mouth. He looked to be 60’s or older, looked good for his age, grey hair. He was in the military when he was younger and had a crew cut hairstyle then. He was well preserved for his age.


    Eyes could cut steel, corporate type, expensive suits, could smell faint good aftershave or soap.


    He hears a high pitch nasally voice, accent is Chicago Illinois: speaks like- You better listen to me Dammit, telling it like it is.


    He advises Presidents gives advice, elitist NWO, PNAC, chairman of the board type, Gov't, international, Very ruthless....


    I'll add some links and you can see there are many points that fit the description.
    Donald H. Rumsfeld Wikipedia


    a little about his like for high desks:
    https://www.btod.com/blog/history-of-standing-desks/

    a video you can hear his accent that fits his background on his wiki page:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REWeBzGuzCc

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    The following description reminded me of Donald H. Rumsfeld:


    Dick Algire described a man in a position of charge during his remote viewing as:


    - A man that was at an expensive high desk and that he liked working at a high desk and did not like sitting down, he stood rigidly and a very tense man.


    -He dressed in good shirts, cuff links, ties with button down collars?, tailored pants and he had taken his jacket off during the time Dick Algire remote viewed this target.


    -Intense eyes, glasses with wire frame or no frames, straight nose, thin mouth, some lines visible at the sides of nose to outer edges of mouth. He looked to be 60’s or older, looked good for his age, grey hair. He was in the military when he was younger and had a crew cut hairstyle then. He was well preserved for his age.


    Eyes could cut steel, corporate type, expensive suits, could smell faint good aftershave or soap.


    He hears a high pitch nasally voice, accent is Chicago Illinois: speaks like- You better listen to me Dammit, telling it like it is.


    He advises Presidents gives advice, elitist NWO, PNAC, chairman of the board type, Gov't, international, Very ruthless....


    I'll add some links and you can see there are many points that fit the description.
    Donald H. Rumsfeld Wikipedia


    a little about his like for high desks:
    https://www.btod.com/blog/history-of-standing-desks/

    a video you can hear his accent that fits his background on his wiki page:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REWeBzGuzCc
    I had a hunch about him too, but what's particularly interesting here is the link to the like of high desks. That's an excellent catch and a really specific detail, probably the primary identifier

    You know, it'd make sense that it were him that Dick perceived. You're right; a lot of the information provided in the links do indeed match these data points
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    Thanks for the upload. Here's a better, stabilised view of it. I couldn't manage for some reason to embed this clip, which I finally managed to track down, so I uploaded it to the server. It's only 2mb.

    Splendid, well done Yes, a much better copy.

    Unrelated to the film, but an often recurring thought: I think, time permitting, that I need to try and get a better fix on how Jeffrey Epstein fitted into this whole operation. Given his close association with Lutnick he had to have been a key player; the money point-man and Mossad agent extraordinaire.
    Re the video: here's also a link to this footage at the beginning of this video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtbZPefASc&rco=1
    Just a useful quick attribution note here: the video was filmed by Angelo Martin, a WABC-TV videographer. The linked videos below also include sound:

    The shot of the trapped on these upper floors with the individual filming appears at around 02:52 here (this video is a montage of clips he took):



    This video as well, with sound, right as it starts:

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    Camcorder footage by British tourists on September 10th

    More from September 10th here which, along with the afore-posted Monika Bravo footage, is again a visual record of the largely dreadful weather that was happening on that day. There's even a moment where they are "...singing in the rain". Particularly striking is what appears to be the near non-view of Lower Manhattan from the Empire State building. The South Tower observation deck film is instructive too. Some have suggested, very reasonably I think, that the weather conditions may have been a result of the 'approaching' Hurricane Erin, massively underreported on the local networks, that barely (but did) get a mention on the morning of September 11th, which as we know was a truly beautiful weather day. How exactly that was geo-engineered, if it was (more likely than not), we aren't sure.

    This appears to be camcorder footage taken by British tourists:

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    Thought of that situation of being trapped above a high fire. Even if the building didn’t magically collapse, if the fire persisted it would get you eventually.

    Learning of those jumpers was hard, and got more so when I thought of how parachutes might have saved many there.

    Those tall buildings could have landed helicopters on their noggins, for direct EXFIL of folks above the flaming floors. Also, copters could have carried or slung loads of parachutes onto those roofs.

    I hope parachuting gets noticed and practiced by folks who work in tall buildings. Never know when your tall building might contain flame-able tenants.

    To workers in shorter buildings, not amenable to jumping with a parachute, maybe look into weaving yourself a long enough fast rope and keeping it under your desk. Or learning and prepping and acquiring kit for abseiling, and keeping that handy.


    I think that wishing well, even for anonymous somebodies in da future, is worthy.

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    copied from meme thread

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    I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. - Robert Anton Wilson

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