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    Default Re: THAT WAS MASSIVE 8.9 in Japan (Tsunami)

    From the "intention" thread...

    Quote Posted by John (here)
    Reactor cores *can* be cooled in ways that scientists cannot yet explain - it happened to Chernobyl's one. I think ET helped.

    It may take a few days. Every day - cool it - quiet the furnace.

    Keep at it - don't get disheartened if it doesn't stop immediately - because it may not.

    Don't forget the other areas that will need your help as well.

    The media is going to try to scare the living crap out of as many people as possible with this.

    Don't feel that - its a choice.

    Hold onto your core confidence - and you will carry those around you as well
    It is bad, but keep up the efforts to cool it - we can - set the intent, let the universe do its thing.

    This is the best we can do - because we are not there.

    Fear will blunt your edge.

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    Default Re: THAT WAS MASSIVE 8.9 in Japan (Tsunami)

    Quote Posted by Fred259 (here)

    Yes I am serious Teaks, Its junk I could sit in my bedroom and put our rubbish like that, what training have they had O.

    If you want the honest answer without offending the Americans, I wouldn’t even trust CNN.

    Get some serious guys on instead of these Muppets sitting at home.

    Here you go..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
    What training do you need to collate information? This guy located the HAARP facility in the Nevada desert just by paying attention.
    And we all know the mainstream media gives out controlled propganda rather than actual news.

    Sure, there are some people who don't know what they're doing and just rabbiting on on you tube - but I guess we each need to trust our own discernment in regard to the information we get.

    I've watched a lot of this guys videos and find him very on the ball.
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    Default Re: THAT WAS MASSIVE 8.9 in Japan (Tsunami)

    BBC London 01.26 UTC


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12711707 < Video in here.

    Japanese authorities have declared a state of emergency at two nuclear power plants, after Friday's devastating earthquake caused malfunctions.

    Cooling systems inside several reactors at the ***ushima 1 and 2 power plants have stopped working properly, leading to a build-up of pressure.

    Thousands of people have been ordered to evacuate the area near the plants.

    Technicians are starting to release vapour to lower the pressure in some of the reactors.

    Some of the released gases could be radioactive, but officials insisted the procedure would pose no risk to the public.

    Radioactivity levels in the control room of the ***ushima 1 plant were reportedly running at 1,000 times normal.

    The earthquake knocked out the power supply to the plants, which then automatically shut down.

    But it seems that back-up generators at ***ushima 1 designed to power the plant's basic functions also failed.

    Two reactors at the ***ushima 1 plant were left without sufficient cooling.

    And officials later said they were unable to control the cooling systems in three reactors at ***ushima 2 plant, 11km (seven miles) south of ***ushima 1.

    Wind factor

    Under Japanese law, an emergency must be declared if a cooling system fails, if there is a release of radiation, or if there is a dangerous level of water in the reactor.

    Prime Minister Naoto Kan declared the emergency. He announced the evacuations after visiting the plant.

    AFFECTED POWER PLANTS.

    Onagawa - all three reactors shut down automatically.

    ***ushima Daiichi - reactors 1,2 and 3 shut down automatically; reactors 4,5 and 6 were not in operation; reactor 1 and one other were not cooling as expected.

    ***ushima Daini - all four reactors shut down automatically, three experiencing cooling problems.

    Tokai - single operational reactor shut down automatically.

    Defence officials said troops trained in chemical disasters had been sent to the plants in case of a radiation leak.

    Earlier, the authorities say they are taking wind direction into account when planning the release of radioactive vapour, which they insist would not be in quantities big enough to affect human health.

    "It's possible that radioactive material in the reactor vessel could leak outside but the amount is expected to be small and the wind blowing towards the sea will be considered," Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told a news conference.

    The six reactors at ***ushima 1 came online in the 1970s; ***ushima 2 has four reactors, built during the 1980s.

    All nuclear facilities in Japan are designed to withstand earthquakes.

    But experts say there appears to have been multiple failures at the ***ushima facilities, raising serious questions about the safety of Japan's reactors.

    The reactors at ***ushima 1 are Boiling Water Reactors (BWR), one of the most commonly used designs, and widely used throughout Japan's fleet of nuclear power stations.

    Heat is produced by a nuclear reaction in the core, causing the water to boil, producing steam. The steam is directly used to drive a turbine, after which it is cooled in a condenser and converted back to water. The water is then pumped back into reactor core, completing the loop.

    In total, the country has 55 reactors providing about one-third of the nation's electricity.
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    Default Re: THAT WAS MASSIVE 8.9 in Japan (Tsunami)

    Novosti Press Agency - Moscow - 04.30UTC


    An 8.9-magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami claimed the lives of hundreds of people in Japan, devastating some areas and echoing worldwide.

    "As of 09:00 local time (00:00 GMT), 236 people were killed and 725 are missing, 1,028 received injuries of varying degrees," a police source said.

    The NHK channel said the death toll nears 400, with more than 700 people missing.

    The tremor, the most powerful ever recorded in Japan, affected nine prefectures. The tsunami wave which followed was up to ten meters high and swept away houses and cars. Japanese authorities estimate the overall death toll to be well above 1,000.

    Many coastal areas in Pacific, Southeast Asia and Latin America, including Russia, Indonesia, New Zealand, Chile and the Philippines, were put on tsunami alert.

    The quake also caused Asian stocks to tumble. The Nikkei Stock Average fell 1.7% to 10254.43, its lowest close since January 31. The Hong Kong Hang Seng index fell 1.6%, and South Korea's Composite index fell 1.3%, the Wall Street Journal said.

    Experts say that, according to preliminary calculations, the earthquake probably shifted the figure axis of the Earth by 15 cm and made earthday 1.6 microseconds shorter.

    Russia braces for more waves

    A four-meter tsunami wave forced evacuation of about 11,000 at Kuril Islands in the Russian Far East, but no serious damage was recorded. Russian experts say more waves may strike the Kuril Archipelago and the Sakhalin Island.

    "The tsunami alert remains in force for southern Kurils and the south of the Sakhalin island, our experts expect more tremors and are on high alert," the head of the Russian Hydrometeorological Center, Alexander Frolov, said in an interview with Russia's Rossiya 24 TV channel.

    The earthquake may also trigger volcanic and seismic activity in the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, which are part of the Pacific Ring of Fire.

    Neither the tremor, nor the tsunami affected infrastructure objects being built for the 2012 Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit to be held in Russia's Vladivostok, architects said.

    Supermoon blamed

    Experts in Russia and worldwide attribute the quake to increased solar activity and the 'supermoon' phenomenon.

    Next week the Earth will witness the so-called "supermoon phenomenon," when the Moon will be at its closest, at just about 356,600 km (some 221,500 miles). Some scientists say the natural satellite's gravitational pull may affect tectonic activity and tidal waves.

    "By studying powerful quakes in Chile, Sumatra and Haiti, we discovered that a certain factor was important, namely the influence of tidal waves. The thing is that the quakes occurred below the ocean bed, and tidal waves may have been the cause," Russian astronomer Leonid Zotov said.

    "Taking into consideration a weak link between Moon orbit and earthquakes we might possibly expect a slight increase in seismic activity around March 19. But fears of something catastrophic are groundless," his colleague Vladimir Surdin said.

    Other scientists say the link between Moon's position and seismic activity on the Earth was too subtle to be taken into consideration.

    "Influence of that kind seems highly unlikely to me," said seismologist and geologist Alexander Marakhanov. "Maybe there is some kind of interaction, but it is very difficult to establish the direct link between these two events."

    Scientists say there is a "traditional candidate" to be blamed for the disaster - a less powerful earthquake which occurred near Japan's largest Honshu Island several days ago.

    Earthday becomes shorter

    The quake probably shifted the figure axis of the planet by 15 cm and made earthday 1.6 microseconds shorter, NASA scientist Richard Gross told RIA Novosti. Italian scientists said on Friday that the figure axis shifted by 10 cm.

    Russian astronomer Leonid Zotov said the statements are unlikely to be ever proved in practice.

    "No one ever managed to trace and record such changes," he said. "No official data was ever presented to confirm such reports."

    Nuclear leak feared


    Several nuclear plants along the Japanese coast were also partially shut down.

    Gennady Onishchenko, Russia's chief sanitary official, ordered to use all available equipment to monitor radiation levels in Russian Far East as emergency situation was declared at two Japanese nuclear power plants.

    According to the most recent measurements in Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula, radiation levels were normal.

    Increased radiation levels were registered at the ***ushima-1 nuclear plant in northeast Japan as power shortages caused the reactor to overheat, the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) said. People living within the 10-km range from the plant were told to evacuate.

    In some parts of the plant, radiation levels rose up to 1,000 times above the norm, and are about eight times above the norm outside the station, the Kyodo news agency said on Saturday.

    Later on, the state of emergency was also declared after a cooling system of three reactor units failed at the neighboring ***ushima-2 NPP, just some 12 km from ***ushima-1, Associated Press said.

    Kyodo also reported explosions at two major Nissan factories and a fire in a turbine building at the Onagawa nuclear power plant in the Miyagi prefecture. There was also a fire at an oil refinery in Ichihara city in the Chiba prefecture near Tokyo.

    Russian tourists found, student reported missing

    Ten Russian tourists, who went missing after the quake, were found, a spokeswoman for the Russian union of travel industry said.

    The tourists, who were part of a group of 18 travelling with the Vand International travel company, will fly to Moscow at 5:30 local time on Saturday.

    The Russian embassy in Tokyo is trying to establish contact with a Russian student, who was studying in the tsunami-hit city of Sendai.

    "There are no reports that any Russians were killed or injured in the quake," a source in the Russian embassy said.



    MOSCOW, March 12 (RIA Novosti)
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    Default Re: THAT WAS MASSIVE 8.9 in Japan (Tsunami)

    G'day All,

    Just an aside from this witty banter.
    I don't know whether I even need to post this from Space Weather but here ya go:
    Quote UPDATE (March 10 @ 1800 UT): Newly-arriving coronagraph data from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory show no bright CME emerging from this eruption. Some material was surely hurled in our direction, but probably not enough for significant Earth-effects.
    I am unsure as to whether these events are linked (I haven't looked into it as of yet any takers?) however the coincidence is at the least interesting. Specially given the mild geomagnetic storm event we are currently in.

    Kind Regards,
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    To SKIBADABOMSKI and all Poeple in Japan,

    I wish you LOVE ......................



    MAY all the GREAT and god's ANGELS be with you:

    We are one !

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    BBC Live 24hr Continuous News feed

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10318089




    05.30 UTC BBC report the plant May be experiencing meltdown. BBC are unable to confirm report.
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    Default Re: THAT WAS MASSIVE 8.9 in Japan (Tsunami)

    How's it going Ski?

    I've just checked the USGS 3D map and there have just been constant aftershocks - so many over 5's, some 6's and I think there was even a 7. You guy's must be utterly exhausted.

    Did you manage to get any sleep using your motorcycle helmet for a pillow?

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    Whirlpool

    Ross, thank you for the data.

    Quote Ross
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    snipped

    Whirlpools (Eddys or water sink hole) happen because of the interaction between rushing water and the geology of the coastline and seafloor. Whirlpools aren't unusual after waves of this size. Infact, if you research you can find past sightings of such things...again, it has to be a large Tsunami to create such a massive eddy (Whirlpool).


    Regards

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    If you watch the video posted by Gaia, you'll see the whirlpool is being created by the geometry of the harbor's jetties controlling the tsunami inflow.

    Quote Gaia Yesterday 09:59 #80

    Has anything like this be filmed/seen before ?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=sU8zy...layer_embedded

    Anyone ?

    Looks to me like a fault opened up , and the water is running down into it under the plate. Id like to know if it stops or not naturally.
    So, from the looks of it, no major fault, sinkhole or portal; just the wave gushing within into the harbor.

    Later videos of the scene cut out that important overview... one wonders (may be not) why?

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    I remember my 6th grade earth science / Geology 101 lessons as well, but doesnt the hollow earth theory dispute these "facts"?

    Not saying which is right, just saying that the earth was flat...until it turned out it wasnt .

    Quote Posted by Ross (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Jonathan (here)
    As far as what caused the quake, and what caused the whirlpool, can we all agree that it is: unknown?

    I dont care who says what, the fact is, none of us know = no theory can be ruled out due to the scientific concensus.

    To SKI: Im not trying to panic you, but right about now, Id be packing up and heading for the hills ( as long as the hill isnt a volcano).

    Love and peace to you from CA brother.
    Ok...whether this was induced with help of humand hands or not....Personally I say not.

    To boundary plates grinding past each other....one plate grinding under the other, pushing under it. This always happens...sometimes they get "stuck" then they become "unstuck" suddenly, this was the cause of this earthquake...the energy released was that of an 8.9 magnitude measurment; this is equal to 336 megatons or 1.41 EJ (Exajoule) (10^18 Joules)....1 Megaton (1,000,000 metric tonnes) ...This quake produced a serious amount of energy!

    Whirlpools (Eddys or water sink hole) happen because of the interaction between rushing water and the geology of the coastline and seafloor. Whirlpools aren't unusual after waves of this size. Infact, if you research you can find past sightings of such things...again, it has to be a large Tsunami to create such a massive eddy (Whirlpool).

    Edit:

    Aftershock: A cloud of smaller Earthquakes around ruptured fault, releasing stress added by Earthquake.

    Triggered shock: Stress added by initial Earthquake pushes a nearby, already stressed fault over the point of rupture.

    An aftershock can overlap with triggered rupture on an already stressed fault.

    Regards

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    OMG...I am still positive that in a week time this nightmare will end....and everything will go back to normal.

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    I was looking for a meltdown explanation I could understand and found this one"

    It is impossible for any PWR or LWR nuclear reactor to explode like an atomic bomb. This is because in order for an uncontrolled chain reaction to occur that is similar to an atom bomb, the uranium fuel must be extremely enriched, much more than the 4% 235U that is present in regular, commercial nuclear reactor fuel. So, if it can't explode, what does happen in a nuclear reactor?

    The answer is what is called a meltdown. When a meltdown occurs in a reactor, the reactor "melts". That is, the temperature rises in the core so much that the fuel rods actually turn to liquid, like ice turns into water when heated.

    If the core continued to heat, the reactor would get so hot that the steel walls of the core would also melt. In a complete reactor meltdown, the extremely hot (about 2700� Celsius) molten uranium fuel rods would melt through the bottom of the reactor and actually sink about 50 feet into the earth beneath the power plant. The molten uranium would react with groundwater, producing large explosions of radioactive steam and debris that would affect nearby towns and population centers.


    In general a nuclear meltdown would occurr if the reactor loses its coolant. This is what occured in the two disasters that we will discuss. Without coolant, the core's temperature would rise, resulting in the meltdown scenario we explained above.
    You may be wondering, "Why can't they just drop the control rods in the reactor if it starts to get out of control?". The answer is that they can. The problem is that, even if the control rods are completely dropped in and the nuclear chain reaction stops, the reactor is still extremely hot and will not cool down unless coolant is put back in. The residual heat and the heat produced from the decay of the fission products are enough to drive the core's temperature up even if the nuclear chain reaction stops.

    http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/...disasters.html

    As said before the States sent some coolant over. I dont know if this will be enough given the residual heat produced. Do we have any nuke experts here - Is this what we could expect if the power is turned off

    Addit:
    18.55pm: An official with Japan's nuclear safety commission says that a meltdown at nuclear power plant affected by the country's massive earthquake is possible.

    Ryohei Shiomi said officials were checking whether a meltdown had taken place at the ***ushima Dai-ichi power plant.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/47...latest-updates
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    Just broke on drudge:

    "may be experiencing nuclear meltdown"

    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/77025.html

    Edit:

    Sending cool thoughts - thx John.
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    Quote Posted by Dennis Jonathan (here)
    I remember my 6th grade earth science / Geology 101 lessons as well, but doesnt the hollow earth theory dispute these "facts"?

    Not saying which is right, just saying that the earth was flat...until it turned out it wasnt .

    Quote Posted by Ross (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Jonathan (here)
    As far as what caused the quake, and what caused the whirlpool, can we all agree that it is: unknown?

    I dont care who says what, the fact is, none of us know = no theory can be ruled out due to the scientific concensus.

    To SKI: Im not trying to panic you, but right about now, Id be packing up and heading for the hills ( as long as the hill isnt a volcano).

    Love and peace to you from CA brother.
    Ok...whether this was induced with help of humand hands or not....Personally I say not.

    To boundary plates grinding past each other....one plate grinding under the other, pushing under it. This always happens...sometimes they get "stuck" then they become "unstuck" suddenly, this was the cause of this earthquake...the energy released was that of an 8.9 magnitude measurment; this is equal to 336 megatons or 1.41 EJ (Exajoule) (10^18 Joules)....1 Megaton (1,000,000 metric tonnes) ...This quake produced a serious amount of energy!

    Whirlpools (Eddys or water sink hole) happen because of the interaction between rushing water and the geology of the coastline and seafloor. Whirlpools aren't unusual after waves of this size. Infact, if you research you can find past sightings of such things...again, it has to be a large Tsunami to create such a massive eddy (Whirlpool).

    Edit:

    Aftershock: A cloud of smaller Earthquakes around ruptured fault, releasing stress added by Earthquake.

    Triggered shock: Stress added by initial Earthquake pushes a nearby, already stressed fault over the point of rupture.

    An aftershock can overlap with triggered rupture on an already stressed fault.

    Regards

    Ross
    Until I see evidence (factual) of the hollow Earth theory, or any other similiar theory, I will side with the Geologist, who spend 30+ year careers studing the earth, internally and above ground. Who are experts in their fields. These are smart Men and Woman. These peoples can produce data, evidence, to support their 'expertise' regardless of possible surpressed information/data.

    I agree totally that Man has often got it wrong in his pursuit of "How things are" equating to "this IS how things are". Not all areas of Science and Physics is bogus information.

    Regards

    Ross
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    BBC London 12 March 2011 Last updated at 05:45 UTC

    A mammoth relief mission is swinging into action in north-east Japan, a day after a devastating earthquake and tsunami claimed hundreds of lives.

    Whole villages have been washed away and at least one town has been largely destroyed. Police said 215,000 people have fled their homes.

    The tsunami was triggered by Japan's biggest earthquake since records began.

    Meanwhile nuclear officials said they were checking whether a damaged reactor had gone into meltdown.The government had earlier declared a state of emergency at five nuclear reactors as cooling systems failed.

    Analysts say a meltdown would not necessarily lead to a major disaster because light-water reactors would not explode even if they overheated.


    Roland Buerk

    BBC News, Tokyo

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    It was only when the sun came up that a more complete picture of devastation began to become a little bit more clear.

    From the air it was clear that what had been paddy fields and villages are now sea-water lagoons. The water came in with the tsunami in some places and hasn't gone out again. It must have been very difficult for rescuers to get to those areas during the night.

    The scale of the devastation has become clearer too. Overnight we heard snippets of information - 300 bodies found in one ward of one city. In another town, 300 homes engulfed by a wave that came in at rooftop height. Now local media are reporting that a town in Iwate prefecture, home of 23,000 people, has been largely destroyed.

    The 8.9-magnitude tremor struck in the afternoon local time on Friday off the coast of Honshu island at a depth of about 24km, 400km (250 miles) north-east of Tokyo.

    It was nearly 8,000 times stronger than last month's quake in New Zealand that devastated the city of Christchurch, scientists said.

    Japanese police told Kyodo news agency 398 people are confirmed to have died and 805 more are missing; other media outlets put the death toll above 400.

    The country's military has mobilised thousands of troops, 300 planes and 40 ships for the relief effort.

    Prime Minister Naoto Kan visited the disaster zone by helicopter early on Saturday.

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    Fair enough Ross. I can agree with that.
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    Based on the article at Tsunami warning center raises magnitude of Japan quake to 9.1, I am changing this thread's title once again, from 8.9 to 9.1.
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    Bloody hell, seriously 9.1!!!!

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Based on the article at Tsunami warning center raises magnitude of Japan quake to 9.1, I am changing this thread's title once again, from 8.9 to 9.1.
    Guess they like those numbers... Hope it's not going to be elevated to 9.11
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    Jesus and all other profund beings. We have to stay on focus people! Let there be cool. Have anyone heard from SKI lately?



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