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    Harley in your opinion is this a false flag?
    And also if the moon is a craft of some sort, someone has to be in control of it. As you say it will move into its closest position soon, so the controllers would know the distruction it would cause..

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    Huge blast at Japan nuclear power plant Press Conference

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

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    As you know Skibadabomski, the authorities will always downplay immediate danger. Often with good reason as panic usually creates more harm. As Harley suggest FOOD AND WATER are key. Get some! Worse case is that you get to eat it! But if contamination escalates, they will be the precious commodities within days.

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    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
    We are possibly only seeing the beginning of it. With the moon moving into it's closest position the earth's crust will become even more unstable, with major danger event on april 16.

    I'm beginning to be quite concerned for our West Coast over here. There really hasn't been much in the way of stress relief for the Pacific Plate in quite a few years, and the experts have been warning for many years that the Seattle area is about 200 years overdue for the next "Big One" (8.0 Plus).
    You know what? I hate to say it, but I feel there's more ahead as well. I had a dream about four nights ago in which I was at a concert for Jon Bon Jovi. The lights dimmed as he went on stage. For his first song, his mouth opened, but it was Michael Jacksons' voice that came out. He sang a soft song.... I got the feeling that it was a song of reassurance. I can remember the melody of the song, but not the words... If I heard it again I'd recognise it tho...

    I felt like he was trying to let us know that we were being watched and we were loved. I had been on edge since the dream... I was almost expecting something major to occur. It was like he was telling us to get prepared, but that we wouldn't be alone during all of this...

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    After the explosion at Chernobyl, the radiation in other countries was detected in a few days. People around the plant better use their common sense and get the hell gone.


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    Quote Wow now that's a reality slap in the face... thanks Harley. Very good, strong handy advice.

    Have you just heard the speeches they have just said? They are going to use (sea water) and some other stuff to contain this problem and they believe this is a solution. They say the nuclear reactor is undamaged..( I can't believe I'm talking about nuclear reactors and stuff ) Is this a bluff? The radios for evacuation has gone from 10km to 20 km but they say the readings have dropped and this is just a safety precaution. The outer walls blew up because of steam of some sort ... I'm really talking about something I have no idea about..

    Harley what do you think?
    Did you see that explosion? Now I'm no nuclear power plant expert, but I know that there are two separate water systems involved. One system is a closed-loop system (because it's contaminated) for controlling the temperature of the core, and the other is a fresh-water system that is boiled into steam which is used to drive the electric generators.

    As far as I know the cooling towers are only used for the contaminated closed-loop system, which as you might imagine is at extremely high pressure. And there isn't any need to cool the fresh-water system, as it's being turned into steam and allowed to escape naturally anyway. (Or something like that!)

    So. What WAS that, that exploded?

    It may be that the reactor is ok for now. But how long can that last if it isn't cooled? And they already stated hours ago that they were having cooling problems, and that was before we seen the explosion.

    I don't know what to say about using sea water. But they're the experts (seriously). But I've been forming this gut-feeling that this has gone over their heads, and I sure hope I'm wrong.

    The media WANTS to tell you everything (ratings you know!). But they can only tell you what the gov is telling them. You know how that goes.

    How's it going now? How's the activity?

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    Quote Posted by jcocks (here)
    You know what? I hate to say it, but I feel there's more ahead as well. I had a dream about four nights ago in which I was at a concert for Jon Bon Jovi. The lights dimmed as he went on stage. For his first song, his mouth opened, but it was Michael Jacksons' voice that came out. He sang a soft song.... I got the feeling that it was a song of reassurance. I can remember the melody of the song, but not the words... If I heard it again I'd recognise it tho...
    I felt like he was trying to let us know that we were being watched and we were loved. I had been on edge since the dream... I was almost expecting something major to occur. It was like he was telling us to get prepared, but that we wouldn't be alone during all of this...
    G'day jcocks,

    If I had a nightmare with either I'd assume the world was going to tumble down around me.
    This would indicate a definite "shift in the force" lol...
    There again...
    JBJ & MJ in one dream... Sounds like too much Bundy to me!

    Good Luck Ski and remember to breath!

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    Addendum:
    CNN Australia reporting witnessed blast reported as a hydrogen explosion.
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    Quote You know what? I hate to say it, but I feel there's more ahead as well.

    Of course there is more ahead. This is the beginning. As Tyche draws closer to the sun, the effects her on earth will get progressively worse. In the words of someone famous....Barham?/Durante?....."You ain't seen nothing yet."


    Let's keep the focus. I keep saying it and the words go into the wind. The challenge for us all is to accept that the universe knows exactly what it is doing.
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    Hello Gaia,
    Nice sound track on that video ... heheheh. I think the predicted radiation cloud in the video is a bit over estimated if a core melt down happens. Moreover, using an average wind speed of 9m/s and 7600km to North America, it'll take about 10 days to reach. Bad news yes... but not as bad as the video suggests.

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    Not sure if this helps.

    http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclea...ctor-meltdown/

    “If they can’t restore power to the plant (and cool the reactor), then there’s the possibility of some sort of core meltdown”. An alarming statement made by James Acton, a physicist who examined Japan’s Kashiwazaki nuclear plant after a 2007 earthquake, who told CNN that Japanese authorities are in race to cool down the ***ushima reactor.

    Following the fifth largest earthquake in recorded world history, a magnitude 8.9 earthquake, has resulted in the closure of all Japan’s nuclear power reactors, one of which, the ***ushima reactor, is overheating and in danger of a meltdown if coolant is not restored soon. It’s like a pressure cooker… when you have something generating heat and you don’t cool it off or release the steam…

    Reported from abc NEWS, Scientists said that even though the reactor had stopped producing energy, its fuel continues to generate heat and needs steady levels of coolant to prevent it from overheating and triggering a dangerous cascade of events.

    They go on to say, “Up to 100 percent of the volatile radioactive Cesium-137 content of the pools could go up in flames and smoke, to blow downwind over large distances,”

    “Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago.” said Kevin Kamps, a nuclear waste specialist.

    ***ushima I (there are two plant locations) is one of the 25 largest nuclear power stations in the world.

    How would a nuclear plant meltdown unfold?

    •Control rods are driven back down into the core upon emergency (if rods don’t make it all the way… trouble)
    •The coolant (water) could cease if backup systems fail (electricity, pumps, generators, batteries)
    •Reactor continues to produce heat
    •Numerous venting valve systems would release pressure above ~1,000 psi into containment vessel
    •Eventually the uranium fuel encasement metal will melt (2,200 deg F)
    •Radioactive contamination then released into the reactor vessel
    •Radiation escapes into an outer, concrete containment building
    •Radiation escapes into the environment.
    ......more on link.......


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_meltdown

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    Quote Posted by bennycog (here)
    Harley in your opinion is this a false flag?
    And also if the moon is a craft of some sort, someone has to be in control of it. As you say it will move into its closest position soon, so the controllers would know the distruction it would cause..
    Hi Benny,

    I don't know what to say about that as I haven't had time to think about it. But it's something that can sure be discussed. As a reminder to me, would you please post this question over on the False Flag thread? It's now after 5:00 AM here and I should try to get some sleep (Yah, Right! LOL!)

    Thanks!

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    Quote Posted by Icecold (here)
    Quote Dr. Akizuki fed his staff and patients a strict diet of brown rice, miso and tamari soy soup, wakame, kombu and other seaweed, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt and prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets.

    Radiation stripe iodine. This diet is high in iodine.......

    Funny you mention that. This was just on "bbc news live."

    1305: The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) says Japanese authorities are making preparations to distribute iodine to residents in the area of both the ***ushima nuclear plants. The IAEA has reiterated its offer of technical assistance to Japan, should the government request this.

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    Posted this in the News & Update section if you hadn't seen it...

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ar-Meltdown...

    ***This is not looking good folks - see the You Tube TV footage of the Massive Explosion at the bottom of this post...

    Japanese Nuclear Meltdown Would Be Hundreds of Times Worse Than Chernobyl...

    NEW YORK | Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:18pm EST

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Japanese officials may only have hours to cool reactors that have been disabled by Friday's massive earthquake and tsunami or face a nuclear meltdown.

    Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) (9501.T) is racing to cool down the reactor core after a highly unusual "station blackout" -- the total loss of power necessary to keep water circulating through the plant to prevent overheating.


    Radiation levels 1000 times above normal at nuclear power plant as massive earthquake and tsunami claim hundreds of lives.

    Daiichi Units 1, 2 and 3 reactors shut down automatically at 2:46 p.m. local time due to the earthquake. But about an hour later, the on-site diesel back-up generators also shut, leaving the reactors without alternating current (AC) power.

    That caused Tepco to declare an emergency and the government to evacuate thousands of people from near the plant. Such a blackout is "one of the most serious conditions that can affect a nuclear plant," according to experts at the Union of Concerned Scientists, a U.S. based nuclear watchdog group.

    "If all AC power is lost, the options to cool the core are limited," the group warned.

    TEPCO also said it has lost ability to control pressure at some of the reactors at its Daini plant nearby.

    The reactors at ***ushima can operate without AC power because they are steam-driven and therefore do not require electric pumps, but the reactors do require direct current (DC) power from batteries for its valves and controls to function.

    If battery power is depleted before AC power is restored, the plant would stop supplying water to the core and the cooling water level in the reactor core could drop.

    RADIATION RELEASE

    Officials are now considering releasing some radiation to relieve pressure in the containment at the Daiichi plant and are also considering releasing pressure at Daini, signs that difficulties are mounting. Such a release has only occurred once in U.S. history, at Three Mile Island.

    "(It's) a sign that the Japanese are pulling out all the stops they can to prevent this accident from developing into a core melt and also prevent it from causing a breach of the containment (system) from the pressure that is building up inside the core because of excess heat," said Mark Hibbs, a nuclear expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

    While the restoration of power through additional generators should allow TEPCO to bring the situation back under control, left unchecked the coolant could boil off within hours. That would cause the core to overheat and damage the fuel, according to nuclear experts familiar with the Three Mile Island accident in Pennsylvania in 1979.

    It could take hours more for the metal surrounding the ceramic uranium fuel pellets in the fuel rods to melt, which is what happened at Three Mile Island. That accident essentially frozen the nuclear industry for three decades.

    Seven years later the industry suffered another blow after the Chernobyl plant in Ukraine exploded due to an uncontrolled power surge that damaged the reactor core, releasing a radioactive cloud that blanketed Europe.

    The metal on the fuel rods would not melt until temperatures far exceed 1,000 degrees F. The ceramic uranium pellets would not melt until temperatures reached about 2,000 degrees F, nuclear experts said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72B04C20110312

    ...UPDATE...

    US did not deliver coolant to Japan nuclear reactor

    (Reuters) - The U.S. military did not provide any coolant for a Japanese nuclear plant affected by a massive earthquake on Friday, U.S. officials said.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton earlier had said that U.S. Air Force "assets" had delivered "some really important coolant" to a Japanese nuclear power plant.

    One U.S. official said he believed Clinton was told Japan had requested the material, that the United States had agreed to provide it, and that an operation to do so was under way.

    Ultimately, however, Japan did not need assistance from the United States but Clinton did not appear to have been updated before she made her public remarks.

    "We understand that ultimately the Japanese government handled the situation on its own," said another U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...25270120110311

    ...UPDATE...

    The building, on the far-right Fu.kushima No1 power plant in the picture above has 'Blown Up...'



    Emergency teams were worked to release dangerous pressure on a reactor at risk of melting down.

    The Fu.kushima No1 and No2 power plants, 10 reactors in total, have been declared nuclear emergency sites, as the count of dead and missing people from Friday’s northern Honshu disaster exceeded 1,200.

    The explosion at the No.1 plant’s No.1 reactor about 3:40pm local time injured four workers and vented radioactive material into the air.

    But a Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency official was unable to say whether the blast happened within the at-risk No.1 reactor or the just the containment building, which appeared to be severely damaged.

    An International Atomic Energy Agency spokesman said in Vienna the nuclear watchdog was “urgently seeking further information” from Japan.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/japa...-1226020358630
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    Quote Posted by bennycog (here)
    the only time i wished i had foxtel or something similar.. but i guess i'll probably get the more real news from you guys..
    should we all ask and see if we can have an intervention and finally have our benevolent ET's (if the exist) to help us/them out just a little?
    My feeling is that mankind was warned several times and several ways against the use of nuclear energy at this stage, the plants and equipments are altogether not safe , not well isolated , compared to what it needs to be to prevent possible disasters .

    There's always an effort to help but there are arrogant factions of mankind who do not listen and tend to spoil the game ..


    The nuclear plant is like a bomb in children hands, you never know what it does, slight change of temperature and it may all blast to the air.

    We can pray that it does not cause more damage.

    My heart is with people of Japan ..



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    Quote Posted by skibadabomski (here)

    i'm 300 km away from the f..kushima plant. Not far enough i guess.

    I'm calm though... La di da di da... (i really want to turn of this t.v). La di da di da
    Can't you move further away ? Pack your bag go to grannies, if that's an option..

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    For those interested here is one link discussing the astrology of the event.

    http://darkstarastrology.com/japan-e...s-predictions/

    The commentary is interesting too, and further down the page is a link to the chart for the nuclear power plant explosion.

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    Avalon,

    Three hours ago as I first awoke I turned on the TV to catch a live interview on CNN with a woman (civilian/ non-news person) in Japan. I wish I could find the interview to attach it. The interesting part was she was trying to move the interview to her perplexity concerning the very strange cloud formations she was seeing and claiming that the earthquake had made them! The CNN Anchor would have none of that topic and steered the interview back to their usual drivel that her producer was probably shouting in her ear to ask the interviewee.

    I know we all love to speculate on Haarp around here but are their historical precedents for such natural phenomenon after a quake? Yes, we are probably back to speculating that this was HAARP related but I like to look at all possibilities. Could this be a natural affect?

    Ski,
    Possible good news I just heard on CNN that they are claiming that the radiation released (probably as part of the controlled steam release) is now showing diminished levels of radiation in the atmosphere. Only take it for what it is worth continuing with your vigilance and reasonable preparedness.

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    THE ILLUSION OF REALITY

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    Some good information in the event of radiation leak.

    http://www.ki4u.com/illwind.htm

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