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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    I give up........

    Stop. Desist.

    1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

    2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS!

    3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right????????

    4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

    5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

    6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

    7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

    8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


    Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

    Thank you.
    That would have to be one of the most ironic uses of the word lunatic I have seen in a long time.
    It is not ironic. Personal experience was not mentioned. But then I've mentioned a view of personal experience some time ago.

    I am not including that view in that assessment and therefore it is not ironic.....

    The experience of others is another matter...from my perspective. I hope that clears that up. Its not a difficult concept.

    The disinformation on this topic is laughable. If you like the idea of 500 theories. That is your preference.

    Have fun with facts, we can write them down and put them in a hat....have a party.
    You missed the point nugget.
    The word lunatic being used in a post about bodies in space.
    Get it?

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Yes, that was my first take on it.....and I thought...no. LOL






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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    Well, what happened to it, Onyx? By what you say it got messed up in the Kuiper belt - but why didn't it get messed up the first time it came around?

    And - is Niburu by other names Kachina's or wormwood - or the planet that's supposed to have some sort of profound effect on earth?
    They received an ultimatum in 2002 to change their trajectory due to our part of the Solar system (extending to Neptune) is off limits for an undetermined time period. They ignored this and attempted to pass the Kuiper Belt the next year as they approached us. A conflict arose between the watcher groups / KBA and the nibiruans, ending with the destruction of their artificial object.

    The Nibiru culture is still alive though, and has since transported itself on a planet around the star Ainalhai. The good end of this scenario is, most of those who survived are from the Enki followership.

    Not sure if Wormwood has anything to do with this. But no planets are to have effects on our world in the foreseeable future. That much I'm told. I could be wrong too.

    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    Hi OnyxKnight, I have just read this thread and I am most intrigued by what you have posted. Please pardon my ignorance , I know little about Astronomy yet have been curious about tales of (Nibiru) since 2001.
    (1) You first mentioned it was a “planet”, then you said "artificial planetary-sized craft"; do you mean it was once a normal planet then was turned into a artificial craft by beings, possibly the Annunaki?
    Bingo!

    Bravo, you are very good. I just wish a lot more people would get things this fast .

    The planet was transformed to be able to travel through star systems as a craft.

    The Anunnaki is the same as saying Europeans. A lot of different cultures that are referred to by the same name have been present at the same time those of Nibiru arrived. They were regarded as part of the pantheon of "gods".. It would be more accurate to label them Nibiruans, since they are the only ones who "owned" Nibiru. As I feel you are referring to them.

    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    I would love to know more on this please. You have blown me away with saying it was destroyed in 2003! What a jaw dropper! Do you know where I can seek more ‘real’ information on this, as it has really got me curious? PM me if you prefer.
    * Anonymous insider sources claim it was destroyed in 2003;

    * Stewart Swerdlow also says it was destroyed in 2003;

    * Alex Collier also says it was destroyed 2003;

    * Various other people who claim extraterrestrial contact have also claimed the same.

    If there were any 'real' information left out in the open, I wouldn't have had to talk about this, it would have been common knowledge amongst people like us. The Japanese Space Agency released reports of red rocky remains in the Kuiper Belt along with their research on various asteroids but most of it was taken off their websites. Some of their research on asteroids is still available on the net.

    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    Again, please pardon my ignorance, but after reading your post, I suspect my head might be filled with BS on this subject. (2) Could you please define in simple terms for a novice the difference of Nibiru and Planet X. I had read that Planet X was a brown dwarf star, and Nibiru orbited around it. I was sent this link yesterday about Planet X that is supposedly leaked NASSA video – I would really love to know what your thoughts are on this. Is this what you are calling ‘Sol B’? Or is Planet X still on it’s way to create havoc for Earth?

    We used to be a triple star system. One sun got "extinguished" long, long time ago, and we are now a binary system of a G2V-class, yellow, main sequence star, and a very small, very dim, borderline M9 red dwarf star. Some confuse it with a brown dwarf, though its not. It was to get the name Tyche, and if you checked the article in 2010, the name was still reserved for the second sun, but they now gave it to the newly discovered gas giant planet several times larger than Jupiter. This planet is not part of our system Its being brought in orbit around the second star.

    Planet X and Nibiru could be deemed similar, because they are regarded by many as the same conspiracy. The problem is, Nibiru is not a planet anymore, nor was it part of our system when it was a planet long, long time ago. Planet X is meant for Pluto, or should I say was, since he is no longer considered a planet.

    Nibiru was a solid planet, rich in minerals, and metals, who in combination, gave it an dark-red color. The atmosphere was rich in mono-atomic gold that also added to the reddish hue of the planet. In combination with some of their technology, this was a good radiation repellent (or so I'm told).

    Planet X is a designation given to any (still) enigmatic planet proposed/theorized to exist. It is not a single planet designation, and surely, like any other planet or a passing cosmic body, it won't cause havoc in our Solar System.

    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    And finally, (3) you mention a larger body in space that is an “artificial object around 7 times the size of Earth, with origins from the Omicron Scorpii system, that is present in the vicinity of Jupiter. It is cloaked, but its gravity effect can be measured easily. Its non-hostile, and will leave this star system around September 2017...” WOW! Please can you explain more and where I can seek such information.

    I would really appreciate hearing from you – your post has got my brain firing in an almost uncomfortable way and I really would like to have more knowledge on this. Thank you!

    That information comes from me as a source, not anyone else. I've been asked to notify people that this is not Nibiru, in case somebody registers its motion, or gravity, maybe spectrographic components etc.

    Its a generational craft for an extraterrestrial race, only here to conduct research on Jupiter, Saturn, and their moons. It was scheduled to leave the system till 2014, although, depending on the course of their research they may leave sooner (or later in this case) then expected.

    After the research is done, it will continue with its trajectory heading towards Mars' orbit and continue towards the Barnard's Star system for a short time, before departing for Wolf 1061.

    Quote Posted by Icecold (here)
    4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!![/COLOR]
    If you are referring to Tyche, I ensure you, it aint no brown dwarf.

    Quote Posted by Icecold (here)
    The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.
    No star can be as small as 4 times Jupiter's size. Gas giants more massive than 13 Jupiter masses, barely make to the brown dwarf stage. This one is four.

    Its "sister" star is almost 50.000 AU from our main sun. Tyche is about 15.000 AU. The sun is affected by other things, not planets.

    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Could someone please tell me in proper time before impact so we can take off

    in our twoseated Galactica Angel. We are there after possible to contact on a

    planet round Aldebaran.
    You would not be happy with the outcome, if you are waiting for help from the Aldebaran system.

    Quote Posted by AlexanderLight (here)
    @OnyxKnight , brother, when I wrote that Nibiru may be an inhabited brow dwarf I meant to say "an inhabited planet, the size of a brawn dwarf". I wrote the "Later Edited" part in 2 minutes as I was about to leave home. Thanks for correcting me, though.
    My bad then. Sorry, wrong interpretation.

    Quote Posted by AlexanderLight (here)
    And I am aware of the theory that very large planets can't sustain an atmosphere similar to Earths, but On the other hand, WE are talking from the perspective of today's knowledge / science / astronomy. We are infants in all domains! Just think that the only planet studied first hand is Earth and we still haven't unlocked its ("her" from my perspective) secrets. We know nothing of our planet's core or oceanic great depths or floors, etc. We still haven't unlocked the energetic mysteries of our planet and so on. So we are only SPECULATING about every other planet / star / giant / etc.
    I was just saying that the Nibiruans cannot sustain the temperature if they lived in brown dwarfs (was just saying).

    Quote Posted by AlexanderLight (here)
    From my historic studies, Nibiru is an inhabited planet...that's what the Sumerians say about it & their knowledge comes from those who came from Nibiru: the Anunnaki. But Nibiru means "the planet of the crossing" and many distant civilizations described it as a red giant...and here is the mess! Can a red atmosphere sustain life? Today's knowledge says no, but what do we really know about other life forms in the Universe? Others say that the red color is a gas that shrouds the atmosphere like a blanket protecting it and keeping an optimum temperature.
    I never said Nibiru is not inhabited. Only that it got blown off in 2003. The rest, is fine with me.

    Quote Posted by AlexanderLight (here)
    You see, there are tens of hypothesis...so I can't accept ONE as fact, much less the one about Nibiru being a ship. The Anunnaki revealed great secrets to the Sumerians, why would they lie about a ship? And don't you think it's illogical for a ship to be dragged throughout the Universe in an absurd orbit? A ship is designed to be mobile, but this giant is "trapped" in a 3,600 years orbit (1 SAR as the Anunnaki called it) around our Sun.
    If you can't accept he idea of planetary-sized craft, why bother mentioning the previous quote? About today's knowledge and all that stuff. What do you really know about alien cultures? Is what I ask you. Just the same question you asked to the general readership here on Avalon.

    And why would they tell them, or even bother explaining, what a ship was, or why it is planet-sized? Can you explain computer science to a native tribesman in Africa?

    And nobody said the ship wasn't mobile. It moves from star system to star system. And if you still believe the disproven '3600 year cycle' theory, you might as well try to calculate the years to Nibiru's arrival. You should get something like 240 more years, for the year Nibiru should be "close to Earth" again, in which case, we should drop this Nibiru hype, and focus on other things, as 200 years from now is a lot of time to worry right now, don't you think?

    Needless to say, it did not ran on cycles. It did not have an orbit for it anyway. Concerning cycles, Nibiru's last visit was in 51.622 BC. Some gap in the cycle period there, don't ya think?

    Quote Posted by AlexanderLight (here)
    The hypothesis that this is a dark star, came from its color. That's the color of dying Suns.
    By the way, a very intelligent man explained to me that the term "dark star" has many meanings. From very distant stars (barely observable) to dark matter stars and hypothetical stars that formed early after the big bang. But in this context, a dark star is a Sun that is closing to the end of its life. Before going supernova the Sun is loosing intensity and turns reddish in color. This state lasts for hundreds of thousands of years.
    It aint the state of this star, because its a lot younger than the main Sun. Even if it was older, it should last well beyond after our own Sun dies. Red dwarfs are the "Immortals" of the stellar population.

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    Ok Guys, I would like to state up front that I am not a photographer.
    I was doing weekend gardening today when I recalled reading somewhere that one could capture an image of planet x if they photographed the sun using the negative setting. Well, I decided to try it with my phone camera. I have Nokia 6303i classic. I wasn't even sure if it had such a setting. Lo and Behold it not only has a negative setting but something else as well called 'solara'.
    I proceeded to take a picture of the sun at approximately 4pm Cyprus time using the normal setting which you can see in the first picture. Then tried it in the solara setting and then in the negative setting. I just wanted to settle this in my midn once and for all. I was astounded to say the least when I looked at what I had captured. I'm not saying that it is Nibiru, but look for yourselves and you tell me what that image is at the 5 o'clock position below the sun. Better yet try it yourselves. If I can do it with my very basic phone camera, any one can.

    Please tell me what you think it is. The weirdest thing is that the object is not a regular smooth ball, but appears to have wings !

    (picture taken at normal setting)
    Attachment 5856

    Picture taken in the 'solara setting'
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    Picture taken in the 'negative setting'
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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Hi Dennis, thank-you very much for taking the time to anylize my photos and giving your suggestions. Now that you point it out, yes, the bird figure is too low to be part of the skyline. It is infact in the field. Your idea about it perhaps being my totem spirit is quite intriguing. I will research that possibility. Thank-you. I will try photographing again today, but not when the sun is so low.

    To Teakai, the object that we are looking at is the bird looking figure below the sun.
    Quote Posted by Dennis Jonathan (here)
    Very cool tip Yiolas. I like the visual effects.

    Im not an expert either, but I don't think that anomaly is in the right position to be celestial.

    If you use the telephone pole as a frame of reference, the position of the anomaly seems to be in the field before the trees.

    I'll mess around with the photo to draw up some angles.

    Edit:

    K here's the pic.



    So the blue circles are the sun, with some additional ray space.

    The White lines are an approximation of the base of the tree line.

    The blue squares mark the pole as a reference point.

    The red line is an approximation of the anomaly position.

    This is obviously not exact, just an estimation drawn up in a minute.

    BUT, that being said...

    That is an amazing catch! I'd be interested in what it is, now that I've said my opinion of what it is not.

    Definitely cool.

    Maybe it's your totem spirit .

    I know I have no less than 2 ravens within 100 yards of me at any time. No idea why. I have a few hundred that flock in the trees behind my house.
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    Smile Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Dear Onyxknight, Thank you so much for replying to my post of questions; this has been most helpful! Reading your other answers to posts, I realise I am way out of my depth on the technical names and definitions and will set too doing a lot of homework this end to catch up to speed. I have read your answers numerous times, I hope I have understood right your words that the image in the NASSA video of the second body next to our Sun you are calling “borderline M9 red dwarf star” that did not get the intended designated name “Tyche” in the end. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    I am particularly interested in this because in late August 2009 whilst on holiday in Wales, UK, I was quietly relaxing in the countryside watching (1 hour before) the approaching sunset; the sky was dimmed by medium cloud cover allowing me to look directly at the sun. What I saw unmistakably were two suns, our usual big sun and another sun much smaller situated around 4 o’clock. I observed this for about 10 minutes before thicker cloud blacked out both suns. I was so transfixed by this scene I didn’t think of taking any photos. I have though seen similar images in photos on utube since. Would this have been ‘M9’ or maybe was I seeing a very large spherical spacecraft???

    Onyxknight you mentioned something curious in a reply to someone else saying, “The sun is affected by other things, not planets.” Could you please share your knowledge on what you mean here? I personally am wondering if this has something to do with the Galactic centre that many are talking about. I can see there are many changes occurring physically on Earth right now as well as a conscious awakening happening in people – somehow IMHO this all ties in some way.

    On a sidenote, I know in myself ‘something’ big is happening here and have seen with my own eyes luminous green fireballs being shot from deep space into our Earth’s atmosphere that explode like luminous green fireworks to help neutralise ‘something’. I’ve seen huge Motherships in the sky and many other strange things and ‘know’ in no words that we are being helped from advanced civilisations from other worlds and also our very own human Future. These ‘Times’ we live in are very interesting. This Alice is very curious and hungry to understand more.

    Thanks again Onyxknight for sharing your time.

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    OnyxKnight:

    I'm not going to quote yor entire post. lol

    But what you have laid out there is an elaborate theory with no supporting evidence....except other elaborate theories. Any or all of these may or may not be correct. Yet they all remain theories.

    Quote Bingo!

    Bravo, you are very good. I just wish a lot more people would get things this fast .
    Do you say this because the member has agreed with your theory?

    The only evidence in any of this is that a large planetary body has been detected moving in our direction....and it has been named by NASA scientists.

    Everything else is theoretical.

    The fact that you believe in an elaborate theory is commendable, but is no proof of any truth whatsoever.



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    Originally Posted by Teakai
    Well, what happened to it, Onyx? By what you say it got messed up in the Kuiper belt - but why didn't it get messed up the first time it came around?

    And - is Niburu by other names Kachina's or wormwood - or the planet that's supposed to have some sort of profound effect on earth?
    They received an ultimatum in 2002 to change their trajectory due to our part of the Solar system (extending to Neptune) is off limits for an undetermined time period. They ignored this and attempted to pass the Kuiper Belt the next year as they approached us. A conflict arose between the watcher groups / KBA and the nibiruans, ending with the destruction of their artificial object.

    The Nibiru culture is still alive though, and has since transported itself on a planet around the star Ainalhai. The good end of this scenario is, most of those who survived are from the Enki followership.
    So, the Annunaki clans ran for their lives after defeat?

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    Quote Posted by yiolas (here)
    Ok Guys, I would like to state up front that I am not a photographer.
    I was doing weekend gardening today when I recalled reading somewhere that one could capture an image of planet x if they photographed the sun using the negative setting. Well, I decided to try it with my phone camera. I have Nokia 6303i classic. I wasn't even sure if it had such a setting. Lo and Behold it not only has a negative setting but something else as well called 'solara'.
    I proceeded to take a picture of the sun at approximately 4pm Cyprus time using the normal setting which you can see in the first picture. Then tried it in the solara setting and then in the negative setting. I just wanted to settle this in my midn once and for all. I was astounded to say the least when I looked at what I had captured. I'm not saying that it is Nibiru, but look for yourselves and you tell me what that image is at the 5 o'clock position below the sun. Better yet try it yourselves. If I can do it with my very basic phone camera, any one can.

    Please tell me what you think it is. The weirdest thing is that the object is not a regular smooth ball, but appears to have wings !

    (picture taken at normal setting)
    Attachment 5856

    Picture taken in the 'solara setting'
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    Picture taken in the 'negative setting'
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    These piccies are pretty amazing Yiola ... they look very real to me...and the shape of the image seems to be spot on ...

    Waiting to hear what others have to say ...

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    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    Dear Onyxknight, Thank you so much for replying to my post of questions; this has been most helpful! Reading your other answers to posts, I realise I am way out of my depth on the technical names and definitions and will set too doing a lot of homework this end to catch up to speed. I have read your answers numerous times, I hope I have understood right your words that the image in the NASSA video of the second body next to our Sun you are calling “borderline M9 red dwarf star” that did not get the intended designated name “Tyche” in the end. Please correct me if I am wrong.
    You are correct about everything except that this second sun is ~50.000 AU. away. Not near the sun.

    What it seems to be in the video is a planet-sized object with a partial cover going near the sun. I'm saying this because a lot of people would notice it everyday if it was there constantly. And it seems it isn't. Which means that this object is moving around. I find the footage very interesting but I have no information on this object. It is not Nibiru, Sol B nor the body from Omicron Scorpii (to my current understanding). Its something else entirely.

    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    I am particularly interested in this because in late August 2009 whilst on holiday in Wales, UK, I was quietly relaxing in the countryside watching (1 hour before) the approaching sunset; the sky was dimmed by medium cloud cover allowing me to look directly at the sun. What I saw unmistakably were two suns, our usual big sun and another sun much smaller situated around 4 o’clock. I observed this for about 10 minutes before thicker cloud blacked out both suns. I was so transfixed by this scene I didn’t think of taking any photos. I have though seen similar images in photos on utube since. Would this have been ‘M9’ or maybe was I seeing a very large spherical spacecraft???
    I would guess the latter. Suns don't move like that. And this has been seen at 10 o'clock from the Sun, sometimes 7, and in your case 4 o'clock. Most times our sun remains the same, singular and lonely, and nobody sees a companion. Other times many people observe something. Same has happened with the Moon, Mercury, Venus etc. These are all objects that can move around, and as such they can't be considered "normal" star system components.

    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    Onyxknight you mentioned something curious in a reply to someone else saying, “The sun is affected by other things, not planets.” Could you please share your knowledge on what you mean here? I personally am wondering if this has something to do with the Galactic centre that many are talking about. I can see there are many changes occurring physically on Earth right now as well as a conscious awakening happening in people – somehow IMHO this all ties in some way.
    It has had an effect on us since 1994. The galactic center I mean.

    I was talking about other effects, who are negative in nature. Somebody is changing the sun's brightness, heat, and cycle work. Through what means and for what purposes I don't know (yet). Those objects seen near the sun in a pattern are there to fix some of the damage done by this unknown source. I have my theories, but will refrain from sharing them for the time being.

    In case this gets called a theory for the way its typed too, the sun is acting very strange lately and there is difficulty tracking its cycle system, and working mechanics, because they seem more chaotic. This is unusual, and it has dragged some attention of the scientific community. This is fact, one can google this if in doubts.

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    On a sidenote, I know in myself ‘something’ big is happening here and have seen with my own eyes luminous green fireballs being shot from deep space into our Earth’s atmosphere that explode like luminous green fireworks to help neutralise ‘something’. I’ve seen huge Motherships in the sky and many other strange things and ‘know’ in no words that we are being helped from advanced civilisations from other worlds and also our very own human Future. These ‘Times’ we live in are very interesting. This Alice is very curious and hungry to understand more.

    Thanks again Onyxknight for sharing your time.
    Looks like somebody's cleaning up the chemtrail mess. Good job observing this.

    And you are welcome .

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    OnyxKnight:

    I'm not going to quote yor entire post. lol

    But what you have laid out there is an elaborate theory with no supporting evidence....except other elaborate theories. Any or all of these may or may not be correct. Yet they all remain theories.
    Our system being binary used to be regarded a silly conspiracy. Now its a mystery that scratches the curious side of the brains of scientific minds too. So, I hope you do see a difference between an ordinary speculation (for which there are also good enough indicators, usually), and scientific theories/speculations. One hell of a difference. One who is interested in facts, should know this very well.

    Now, let's examine the known facts:

    There is no logical reason for the Sumerians, as advanced as they were, to attribute everything they learned and advanced to "Gods", who they portrayed in a way that you cannot see them as anything else than intelligent forms of life from another point of space other than our planet. Therefore, logic dictates they were dealing with ETs. If they exist, so did Nibiru FACT # 1.

    The sun is acting strange and very chaotic. Since it is far, far away from its later stage of life (in terms of life, it has just entered its adolescent years), this behavior is very, very unusual. For this to happen to a natural object who has a precise cycle system of working, means that there is an external, artificial cause for this. Sources remain so far unknown, but we do know this should NOT happen. Something is going on, something/somebody is playing with the sun's mechanics. FACT # 2

    There seems to be more than one planet-sized objects roaming around our Solar System. Some have caught them near the Kuiper Belt, some near Saturn and Jupiter, some near the (Main) Sun. All these cases have sufficient evidence to be considered at least somewhat credible. Since we are in the pursuit of Truth, when things like that are censored or extremely attempted at debunking them, means there is something to it. Especially if we talk about footage, or reports coming from Space Agencies (NASA, JSA etc,.). FACT # 3

    Brown dwarfs happen when an object gains 13+ Jupiter masses. The new "Tyche" planet is barely 4 times Jupiter's size, and its too cool to be ridiculously considered a brown dwarf. Tyche is a large gas giant, nothing more, or less. Brown dwarf explanation goes out the window. FACT # 4

    The "Tyche" planet is located ~15.000 AU from us. Too far away to be part of our system. Also too far apart to be considered (right now) part of the Sol B system, who is ~50.000 AU away. FACT # 5

    Sol B (Or Nemesis if you will). You do remember I said its now a scientific theory right? If scientists are interested and asking for research funding of this, yes, they are serious. There is something nearly a light year away, located somewhere in the Oort cloud, that is causing havoc there, and shooting asteroids and comets near our path. To be able to do that there has to be a stellar-type object there, with enough gravity to be able to do that. FACT # 6

    Destruction of Nibiru. There were nice pictures from Space Agencies, and amateur astronomers depicting a curious object approaching from the distance of the Kuiper Belt. Well, there were up until the start of 2003, after which they all disappear from the net. If you were active in these topics (particularly Nibiru/Planet X) you should know about this, the net was flooded with them. After the start of 2003, they all disappear from the net, and nobody neither saw this object again, nor was able to find any pictures depicting it on the net. Its still referred to this day, as "The Raid". Also, the Japanese Space Agency released reports on research on asteroids that said that several of the newly asteroids discovered from 2003 - 2009 show features of being once "a planet". You can find only small confirmations of this in their official websites, the rest has been taken off (for whatever reasons). Nibiru lies in pieces in the Kuiper Belt. Some probes are planned to have missions there in near future, so this will soon to be a confirmed fact. UNCONFIRMED FACT / FACT # 7

    Quote Posted by Icecold (here)
    Do you say this because the member has agreed with your theory?
    I said that because he put 2 and 2 together, when it comes to what I had said (not everybody gets me the first time they read my post). So, I said that for understanding what I meant. He never said he agreed with me or my "theory", just that it sounds interesting and that he would like to know more.

    Quote Posted by Icecold (here)
    The fact that you believe in an elaborate theory is commendable, but is no proof of any truth whatsoever.
    Apply for the next Chinese space mission. maybe they will let you participate in investigating the Kuiper Belt with them and get your proof.

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    So, the Annunaki clans ran for their lives after defeat?
    Yes, they left the Solar System. Otherwise the conflict might have ended bad for them.

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    These piccies are pretty amazing Yiola ... they look very real to me...and the shape of the image seems to be spot on ...

    Waiting to hear what others have to say ...

    viking
    Viking, I'm getting spooked out here.
    I was sort of resigned to the fact that what I captured yesterday was some kind of photographic glitch. But as I continued my gardening today, I decided to take one more shot at the sun. It was a bright sunny day here in Cyprus and the sun was still high up in the sky around 3 pm. I was standing in front of trellis and with my cell phone camera on the 'negative setting' again, I aimed up and took a shot of the sun . It was so bright outside that I really could not see what the picture looked like at the time. It's dark now and I just came in side and decided to upload the picture onto my computer.
    The object under the sun is still clearly there. Please, will someone just go outside and take a picture of the sun and put your camera on the negative setting.
    I would really like to get to the bottom of this.
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    Hi...
    This is a photograph of the Sun I took on 7th Mar 2011 at 13:51, from NW England.
    To protect my eyes and camera photo-sensor I used two dark filters fitted to the end of the telephoto lens.
    As you can plainly see... there is nothing else up there but the Sun.
    I suggest that the anomalies we are seeing on some photographs here are due to lens-flare, sun-dogs and/or cheap cameras and lenses.
    Sorry guys... hate to spoil the party.
    Peace x

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    Hi Upanatom, I think that you would have taken a completely different picture had you put your camera in the 'negative' setting. I don't now if it will harm your photo sensor or not though. My cheap cell phone camera seems to have survived though.
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    I have to add on to this only because it coincides with the dream i had when i was 18. I saw the future (my future) this is kind of bleh to write only because i am bit, of skeptick when it comes to sharing "my future" when my "future" is still "unclear". I was looking outside of a window, from a house, and the sun's overall color was different, (compared to the early nineties and what I can remember) Almost "autumnly" like, every day..sort of like NOW. hehe I don't know if you guys have noted a difference.


    But yeah i looked alive and with family...

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    Quote Posted by yiolas (here)
    Hi Upanatom, I think that you would have taken a completely different picture had you put your camera in the 'negative' setting. I don't now if it will harm your photo sensor or not though. My cheap cell phone camera seems to have survived though.
    yiolas...
    It would be an easy task to load the photo into an image manipulation program (ie., Photoshop) and render it negative. I have already looked at the photo in negative as well as using several different filters and saw nothing unexpected.
    I can't see how taking a photograph in negative mode would make any difference.
    Perhaps a professional photographer could explain better?
    Also, yes... I believe the camera sensor will be damaged if exposed to direct sunlight for any extended time... same as your eyes.
    My camera is a Canon EOS SLR... and I wasn't about to damage the sensor or my eyes by neglecting to use an appropriate dark filter.

    I hope someone here can explain the anomaly in your photograph.
    Thanks.

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    Hi...
    This is a photograph of the Sun I took on 7th Mar 2011 at 13:51, from NW England.
    To protect my eyes and camera photo-sensor I used two dark filters fitted to the end of the telephoto lens.
    As you can plainly see... there is nothing else up there but the Sun.
    I suggest that the anomalies we are seeing on some photographs here are due to lens-flare, sun-dogs and/or cheap cameras and lenses.
    Sorry guys... hate to spoil the party.
    Peace x
    Just because you haven't seen something like that or captured it on camera, doesn't mean it never happened or that other people haven't seen it. You can't simply dismiss testimony just like that.

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    I would guess the latter. Suns don't move like that. And this has been seen at 10 o'clock from the Sun, sometimes 7, and in your case 4 o'clock. Most times our sun remains the same, singular and lonely, and nobody sees a companion. Other times many people observe something. Same has happened with the Moon, Mercury, Venus etc. These are all objects that can move around, and as such they can't be considered "normal" star system components.

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    Looks to me like a bird (which may have entered the shot after the first / positive image was taken), or a farmer's bird-scaring dummy bird.

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    Hi Onxyknight,
    Thanks again for replying!
    Talking about the Sun, have you seen this?
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=f5AjF...layer_embedded

    This was on a thread titled ‘the sun has eclipsed’ posted yesterday after the Sun blacked out. I know five people in the UK including myself who witnessed everything going very dark around 7:30am GMT. I just wondered what your thoughts are on this and if this might have something to do with ‘Mirror Matter’ planets?
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    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    Hi Onxyknight,
    Thanks again for replying!
    Talking about the Sun, have you seen this?


    This was on a thread titled ‘the sun has eclipsed’ posted yesterday after the Sun blacked out. I know five people in the UK including myself who witnessed everything going very dark around 7:30am GMT. I just wondered what your thoughts are on this and if this might have something to do with ‘Mirror Matter’ planets?
    There ya go.
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