Radio-active matter: Let's be spiritual Healers

[K626]

Posted by sepia (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Many people do this work, with no fuss or drama, always behind the scenes. I'm privileged to know many of them - and many times more than that are unknown to me.

Sepia is one of many masters in this area. There are others on this forum, too. Quiet miracles happen, unseen, all the time.

This is why conditions are changing, and why we're not on the same timeline we were even a few short years ago.

Thank you, Bill.

Yes, it is true that I'm experienced in these things - as you and many others are.

But what is even more important for me than work "with no fuss or drama" is
to explain the techniques in a way that they become accessible for those who are interested.

It's not so much about things I can do -

first of all it is about things others discover that they can do.

(Or even more important: - what they are - actually...)

Good stuff Sepia. There is a reall different energy even about this thread. I like clicking on it.

Peace

K

[magicmanx]

Posted by sepia (here)
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...you start at a tiny tiny place, just with one molecule to begin with.
This way you don't feel overwhelmed.

It's all about you and your spiritual abilities! - We make the change. It happens inside.

Once you have deeply understood...
- and this is more than a intellectual thing
- it's about your compassion
- it's about loving - not 'sending love'.....
- you will realize that it works.

And then you can dublicate, make it bigger, spread your consciousness...

- the positive chain-reaction can start.

I hope you take this invitation.

Ah! my dearest Sepia

- it's about your compassion
- it's about loving
How wonderful to read these words. I am a gardener and I am surrounded by my dogs and I am also a healer from birth.

Everyone …….. stop looking for the next symbol, the next Ashram in India, the next new whatever …….. the above two lines are it and this you can never learn.

It can only be felt. It comes from that so special place deep within.

When each and everyone of us can feel this then we can be change.

I salute you my Angel ……… Yes I accept the invitation

[sepia]

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Please excuse me - I have something personal to say:

See: I'm just a normal person, have my flaws and attitudes and some qualities - just the normal mixture. Not worth to think much about.

But my body and nervous system are extremely sensitive.
When many people send their attention, love, interest, questions, opinions etc. to me as a person I'm getting a headache, my heartbeat and my blood-pressure rise... and I'm soon knocked out.

* * *

There is an other way to do it which is much more beneficial for you -
and allows my body to relax.

Could you please think more of my Higher Self instead of me as a person?
It is much more valuable - actually it is absolutely perfect -------- exactly like yours


and it is a 100% dedicated to the highest truth
and to all the beings in creation.

Let's meet in heavens (open 24/7) - and down here I'm able to relax and have my salad...

[Muzz]

Thank you Sepia for this great thread. Very timely for me as Im reading Bruce Liptons Biology of Belief at the moment.

And also thanks to nomadgay and goivoni for posting the Dan Winter and Dan Shrieber vids.

Hope this helps as well.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5xYlj9QQ_Xw

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by sepia (here)
I'm glad you slept on it. Your soul understood

It's not a power-game. We don't push anything away.
The change first of all happens inside of us.

I understand that you are focused on the personal. Even the text you chose to highlight in my post focused on my person. There is no denying that the personal is a part of this puzzle and has value. But there is much more. There is a complex interplay between the world within each of us and the exterior world. I am concerned that by concentrating primarily on the interior world, you lose a proper perspective needed to understand reality. For instance, you say that the change first of all happens inside of us. You ignore that change can occur first outside of us and induce changes within us. And there is a whole spectrum of mixed possibilities in between those two extremes. In a sense, by insisting change must first happen inside of you, you are indeed pushing away the other possibilities. You also say, "You heal yourself - and pass this healing on to the world." However, the world may heal itself and pass this healing on to you. Both may be occurring in proportions different from what you imagine.

Are we doing the right thing by believing that we direct the atoms? Are we doing the right thing by believing the atoms direct us? Does the truth lie somewhere in between? Or does the truth lie somewhere else entirely?

How do we know?

Are we doing ourselves a disservice by thinking that we do know?

I apologize if this gives you a headache.

[edina]

Posted by sepia (here)
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Please excuse me - I have something personal to say:

See: I'm just a normal person, have my flaws and attitudes and some qualities - just the normal mixture. Not worth to think much about.

But my body and nervous system are extremely sensitive.
When many people send their attention, love, interest, questions, opinions etc. to me as a person I'm getting a headache, my heartbeat and my blood-pressure rise... and I'm soon knocked out.

* * *

There is an other way to do it which is much more beneficial for you -
and allows my body to relax.

Could you please think more of my Higher Self instead of me as a person?
It is much more valuable - actually it is absolutely perfect -------- exactly like yours


and it is a 100% dedicated to the highest truth
and to all the beings in creation.

Let's meet in heavens (open 24/7) - and down here I'm able to relax and have my salad...

Sepia, or should I say Sepia HS (Higher Self) Dinny says playfully,

Thanks for sharing this, this is helpful information to me

Enjoy your salad...

[sepia]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by nomadguy (here)
i take your invite -

Thank you nomadguy - for postings this video.

"Life force is not designed to be stored ~ it is only designed to be distributed"

For those who would like a more scientific explanation on this molecular level healing concept, i believe this series will help establish a foundation and understanding- in fully grasping what Sepia is implying and suggesting here...

part 1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kic94GN-Dfs

part 2
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2J4YS...eature=related

part 3
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BF8Kt...eature=related

part 4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-9Hnl...eature=related

part 5
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PrMEw...eature=related

Wonderful! - So glad you posted these videos nomadguy and giovonni!

(I wished I'd had such teachers!)

Enjoy!

[Chuck]

Thank you sepia for a gem of an idea!

After participating… focusing my attention upon U235 and listening to it with spiritual ears, here is what it told me:

After becoming massive it wants freedom. It wants to go back to light. It and another particles like it are the examples for every particle on this planet that want freedom. It is a rogue, solitary particle but has been forced into close proximity with others like it. Freedom gets accelerated! (Like putting a bunch of roosters together in closed, confined, small quarters)

Understanding this passionate desire for freedom, I, in consciousness, became their equivalent anti-matter particles, in time reverse flow combined with them and radiated light, radiated joy. No harmful effects on living beings.

I will continue to do so at every opportunity

[Flash]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)

Posted by sepia (here)
I'm glad you slept on it. Your soul understood

It's not a power-game. We don't push anything away.
The change first of all happens inside of us.

I understand that you are focused on the personal. Even the text you chose to highlight in my post focused on my person. There is no denying that the personal is a part of this puzzle and has value. But there is much more. There is a complex interplay between the world within each of us and the exterior world. I am concerned that by concentrating primarily on the interior world, you lose a proper perspective needed to understand reality. For instance, you say that the change first of all happens inside of us. You ignore that change can occur first outside of us and induce changes within us. And there is a whole spectrum of mixed possibilities in between those two extremes. In a sense, by insisting change must first happen inside of you, you are indeed pushing away the other possibilities. You also say, "You heal yourself - and pass this healing on to the world." However, the world may heal itself and pass this healing on to you. Both may be occurring in proportions different from what you imagine.

Are we doing the right thing by believing that we direct the atoms? Are we doing the right thing by believing the atoms direct us? Does the truth lie somewhere in between? Or does the truth lie somewhere else entirely?

How do we know?

Are we doing ourselves a disservice by thinking that we do know?

I apologize if this gives you a headache.

Here chicodoo, I have to disagree, no, I am your experience of disagreeing. This is a very very difficult concept to grasp (it was for me and in everyday life, i forget constantly).

WE PROJECT WHAT WE EXPERIENCE, IT COMES FROM US, individually and collectively. There is no complex interplay between the world and us, we are the world within us. It is within us.

It is holographic entirely. Change the world within you, you change the world outward. The change occuring outside of me has been created by me, it is holographic. I just have to observe which changes inside are needed.

When I support a declaration paper, in one of your thread, it is supported from within towards the outside, I wish to help awakening to happen for everyone, but you know, it is first on me that the impact happens, when I integrate the declaration, I change the world, within and out. Helping others is helping myself and vice versa, helping myself to grow is helping others.

My holographic world has to change, inside. And then, there is no doubt it will change the world. If my universal being - all the human race - awaken, all the other parts of my greater self awaken, this is great. If not, some of my own membres will have to be dislodge, amputation hurts.

Why do we have psychopaths running this world? It is the parts of us that have forgotten the holographic being(s) that we are. It is the parts of us that are dismembering, this is why it hurts. And those parts are not conscious of that. This is the parts of us that have cancer and the whole is learning how to deal with it. It seems that it is a universal learning.

When I forgive myself, I forgive others automatically. When I ask for forgiveness, to the atoms, they receive forgiveness as well. The whole starts inside.

No perspective of reality is lost, on the contrary, reality is much more vivid, starting inside, spreading outside, refolding inside, this is the breathing of brahma.

Forgiveness and love, forgiveness in love, those might be the keys for the actual state of the world. Then, ego, not in contact with the hologram, takes its rightful place (quite small in fact)

[dan i el]

Posted by Flash (here)

If my universal being - all the human race - awaken, all the other parts of my greater self awaken, this is great. If not, some of my own membres will have to be dislodge, amputation hurts.

Can you expand on what you mean here, please, Flash?

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by giovonni (here)
For those who would like a more scientific explanation on this molecular level healing concept, i believe this series will help establish a foundation and understanding- in fully grasping what Sepia is implying and suggesting here...

That sounded just like what I needed, but I'm afraid it just made things worse.

What the videos present is definitely not a scientific explanation, even though it does mix and blend scientific concepts with entertaining fantasy and imagination.

These videos are good examples of what I'm trying to warn against. They are rife with the misuse of language, ideas, information, and knowledge. Frankly, I'm not sure I can tell the difference between the lecturer and a severely deluded resident of an insane asylum. I hate to say that, because I'm well aware that the failing may be my own. The insane could be more sane than those that put them away! Nevertheless, I feel obliged to wave all the red flags I can muster. Something is not right here.

[sepia]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)
I understand that you are focused on the personal. Even the text you chose to highlight in my post focused on my person. There is no denying that the personal is a part of this puzzle and has value. But there is much more. There is a complex interplay between the world within each of us and the exterior world. I am concerned that by concentrating primarily on the interior world, you lose a proper perspective needed to understand reality. For instance, you say that the change first of all happens inside of us. You ignore that change can occur first outside of us and induce changes within us. And there is a whole spectrum of mixed possibilities in between those two extremes. In a sense, by insisting change must first happen inside of you, you are indeed pushing away the other possibilities. You also say, "You heal yourself - and pass this healing on to the world." However, the world may heal itself and pass this healing on to you. Both may be occurring in proportions different from what you imagine.

Are we doing the right thing by believing that we direct the atoms? Are we doing the right thing by believing the atoms direct us? Does the truth lie somewhere in between? Or does the truth lie somewhere else entirely?

How do we know?

Are we doing ourselves a disservice by thinking that we do know?

I apologize if this gives you a headache.

I had a great salad -
and my whole System relaxed soon after I have posted my personal request.

Thank you everybody!

You see, I'm not really able to answer or discuss your post and I'm very grateful for Flash's eloquent answer.
I understand where you come from. But I think I'm knitted with a different wool

Let me give an example:
When I was between 16 - 20 years old the scientific thinking absolutely fascinated me - and I was convinced everything could be explained by using scientific means.

Then I learned about reincarnation. (This wasn't discussed back and forth when I was young)

And wuff... suddenly my world was upside down.

Science never found prove for life after death - so it didn't exist.

What to do? - I decided to test it out. I took the hypothesis on board and lived as if life after death was a fact.
Three years later I knew that I preferred this paradigme, it made more sense, seemed more logical to me so I adopted it.
Only after having made this decision I found prove for myself.

And still many people might say, it's an illusion, it's a lie, a believe-system...

And you know what? I don't care. - I don't have to prove anybody anything.

Each person creates his Universe, his reality - we have this free decision. And this is very very wonderful.

[K626]

Totally agree with the last sentence btw Sepia.

And that knowledge is in all of us and these days I work on flinging it out and about and seeing what comes back.

K

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by Flash (here)
WE PROJECT WHAT WE EXPERIENCE, IT COMES FROM US, individually and collectively. There is no complex interplay between the world and us, we are the world within us. It is within us.

Thanks, Flash. I really appreciate your efforts here to help me understand. I do understand the concepts that you are describing, but I'm not convinced they accurately describe how the world works. Here's why.

If you consider a strictly holographic model along the lines of the Mandelbrot Set, what you are describing is not applicable. There are no elements that can make changes within themselves and thus create changes outside of themselves. There is only the model, immutable, fixed, infinite, yet tightly constrained by its initial definitions.

However, from what I can see, the universe is not a pure holographic model. Whatever model the universe uses is apparently too complex for me to understand (how disappointing, but at the same time, gratifying). I cannot deny the possibility that what you have described may be the way the universe works. All I can say is that I'm not seeing much evidence for that being the case. Yes, everything that we consider real is a construct of our brain. But that does not mean everything that is a construct of our brain is real. Our brains may indeed construct things that have no basis in reality. In fact, I suspect that happens often enough. That's why I'm waving the red flags.

No matter how many radioactive atoms we befriend, I still think some of my brothers and sisters in Japan are going die of radiation poisoning, and this does not sit well with me. Do you see my problem? If so, please help me find a cure (one that works for them, not me).

[Chicodoodoo]

Posted by sepia (here)
Science never found prove for life after death - so it didn't exist.

Science never found proof for life after death, nor did it find proof for no life after death -- so science can't say too much about it.

Posted by sepia (here)
And still many people might say, it's an illusion, it's a lie, a believe-system... And you know what? I don't care. - I don't have to prove anybody anything.

Ah, there's my problem -- I do care.

I'm amazed at how quickly you were able to open my eyes, Sepia. Thank you very much, and I mean that most sincerely. I'm in your debt.

[Flash]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
For those who would like a more scientific explanation on this molecular level healing concept, i believe this series will help establish a foundation and understanding- in fully grasping what Sepia is implying and suggesting here...

That sounded just like what I needed, but I'm afraid it just made things worse.

What the videos present is definitely not a scientific explanation, even though it does mix and blend scientific concepts with entertaining fantasy and imagination.

These videos are good examples of what I'm trying to warn against. They are rife with the misuse of language, ideas, information, and knowledge. Frankly, I'm not sure I can tell the difference between the lecturer and a severely deluded resident of an insane asylum. I hate to say that, because I'm well aware that the failing may be my own. The insane could be more sane than those that put them away! Nevertheless, I feel obliged to wave all the red flags I can muster. Something is not right here.

ok chicodoodoo it seems that great minds meet on Avalon, here another thread just posted that gives you the precursor of what i meant, and maybe, this time.... the trailer is great

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...lm-Coming-I-AM

sorry Sepia for sending the readers there

[dan i el]

I understand the idea of attempting loving communication with matter but I cannot but think Chicodoodoo's contentions are pertinent. One element may well be communicating with atomic matter, another equally valid one surely is "rationalised" peoples' movements organising towards approach to a holistic egalitarianism. JMhO

personally speaking, I do not mind that we all are often on different ships in the same ocean..i believe i have a hovercraft. . generally speaking I think the voices here sail in much the same direction?

[Flash]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
WE PROJECT WHAT WE EXPERIENCE, IT COMES FROM US, individually and collectively. There is no complex interplay between the world and us, we are the world within us. It is within us.

Thanks, Flash. I really appreciate your efforts here to help me understand. I do understand the concepts that you are describing, but I'm not convinced they accurately describe how the world works. Here's why.

If you consider a strictly holographic model along the lines of the Mandelbrot Set, what you are describing is not applicable. There are no elements that can make changes within themselves and thus create changes outside of themselves. There is only the model, immutable, fixed, infinite, yet tightly constrained by its initial definitions.

However, from what I can see, the universe is not a pure holographic model. Whatever model the universe uses is apparently too complex for me to understand (how disappointing, but at the same time, gratifying). I cannot deny the possibility that what you have described may be the way the universe works. All I can say is that I'm not seeing much evidence for that being the case. Yes, everything that we consider real is a construct of our brain. But that does not mean everything that is a construct of our brain is real. Our brains may indeed construct things that have no basis in reality. In fact, I suspect that happens often enough. That's why I'm waving the red flags.

No matter how many radioactive atoms we befriend, I still think some of my brothers and sisters in Japan are going die of radiation poisoning, and this does not sit well with me. Do you see my problem? If so, please help me find a cure (one that works for them, not me).

We may not be talking of the same hologram, my view of it is quite dynamic, ever changing. Depending on what we input in it. We are the Creators. I understand quite well that the evidence is not always there, our intellect is not very much tuned up to see it. And I understand the help the Japanese need, as well as both of us, chicodoo and flash, our continent will be affected right after.

To me, holographic universe does not mean sitting in a cave meditating my whole life (although this may work as well maybe even better) but intervening to correct the thinking that led us in the impass with creating the right thinking/love and the right actions. It goes altogether. Yes many will die of radiation poisoning for generations may be. Finding a cure may start with the right thinking/love at the atomic level. It can start within pushing it outward.

Chicodoodoo, as long as you don't leave the intellect at the door and go with your heart, you may not see. (I am not talking mushy mushy weak emotional stuff, I am talking true, encompassing, extremely powerfull and strong directed and at the same time diffusing love). I am often doing the same mistake as well - you may not think so, but i did have a strong intellect - have to beat it down, its direction is/was quite wrong.

When faced with incredible difficulties from the outward, starting within, even if it is very difficult, might just be easier altogether. We are on a planet dominated by the ego which shows up as intellectual abilities producing primtive behaviors. Most of our holographic self is controlled by a humanity that has not learn to have the brain servicing the heart, servicing the whole. Actually, the brain act and the heart closes up. Our human brain is crazy! It is an ego run amock, completely shcizo because it is disconnected from the holographic whole (dynamic hologram) and from the essence showing off as love/light.

Catching The Whole is possible when opening the heart and putting the brain at its right place, in service, period.

Asking for forgiveness is the first step, it is the baby step.

Asking for forgiveness to atoms, elementals, of course they will participate, we are here, human being, originally to harmonise our planet aren't we?

The dark side is using the elementals negatively, we forgot we could do it positively to counterbalance. With heart. Why not then asking cooperation, asking for the solutions to everyone, elementals to masters to the source. With heart. Lets them tell us where to act and how to think.

I must admit that parts of me does not catch it yet, if it were I would send it to you through the hologram. umm.... may be tonight while sleeping.....lol

[giovonni]

Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
For those who would like a more scientific explanation on this molecular level healing concept, i believe this series will help establish a foundation and understanding- in fully grasping what Sepia is implying and suggesting here...

That sounded just like what I needed, but I'm afraid it just made things worse.

What the videos present is definitely not a scientific explanation, even though it does mix and blend scientific concepts with entertaining fantasy and imagination.

These videos are good examples of what I'm trying to warn against. They are rife with the misuse of language, ideas, information, and knowledge. Frankly, I'm not sure I can tell the difference between the lecturer and a severely deluded resident of an insane asylum. I hate to say that, because I'm well aware that the failing may be my own. The insane could be more sane than those that put them away! Nevertheless, I feel obliged to wave all the red flags I can muster. Something is not right here.

thanks for the warning, but perhaps you thinketh too hard

to each his own.

Note; in regards to Dan Winter's (who i respect and admire very much), and to my recommendation of his videos - in my opinion (i felt) while viewing would be helpful in grasping what Sepia is suggesting on this thread ~ i put forth this reference definition in my use of the term 'scientific explanation.'

"Scientific: The method of inquiry into nature specifically designed to derive predictable laws of physical properties. Modern scientific theory began in the 16th century with Rene Descartes's Discourse on Method, followed by Francis Bacon's Inductive Inquiry, and Isaac Newton's Principia. John Locke first used the term scientific and proposed that certainty about interaction of physical events was based on data arrived at by physical sensation. These concepts resulted in a model of a mechanical, predictive universe, but this view was upset by modern quantum theory, which states that the subatomic level, the laws of chance replace determining laws.

History has noted that science doesn't advance by extension of established theories, but instead takes leaps by a shift in paradigm. The inference is that science is merely a reflection of a point of view, and there's no real separation between observer and observed. Relatively theory further states that matter equals energy, depending on one's point of reference. David Bohm's later Holographic Model predicates an explicit order based implicit order. Form becomes the consequence of inference, space and time are not nonlocalized, and there is no "here" or "there" ( nonlocality of quantum wholenesss). The universe thus described contains an infinite number of dimensions and higher-dimensions realities."

"Power Vs Force ~ The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior"
by David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D.

(Reference page 318)

[bearcow]

These videos are good examples of what I'm trying to warn against. They are rife with the misuse of language, ideas, information, and knowledge.

I'm afraid i must agree with you Chicodoodoo, there are good core concepts in the series of videos, but in the details the concepts are misunderstood and will create problems for people trying to gain a practical, useful understanding of non physical realms. The gentleman in the video is trying too hard in his work to find the "answer". He is off center.

My advise to you is to earnestly live your dharma, do what you feel is right. Eventually what is not obvious to you will become so.