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    Quote Posted by Revere (here)
    We can never get our Government under control until we get the Corporations out of it. We are run to make money for the PTB behind the government. We are shot top to bottom. Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court....done.

    Not until we forget parties rise up in mass and say no more to all of it will we have real change. Ron Paul, forget about it...dust in the wind. All are guilty by association and are just game players. The Reset button some day... somehow is the only chance! Sorry.


    Peace,

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    I would say that any talk of changing or fixing the system is not smart.
    Think of it like a house, this house is in such bad condition, that no matter what you do, it will eventually be condemned.
    The only thing to do is demolish and build a new one.
    Same with the system.

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    Pharaoh,

    the day Obama became president was the day PTB realized they were no longer in control. Sure we're a mess, but would you rather be living anywhere else?

    If you don't think we have the right of freedom or speech or expression, then you haven't been reading anything I have written lately.

    sure you can just sweep all the less fortunate onto an island and turn your back, no medical treatments or food

    a society is judged on how they take care of the needy, not how rich it is, morally America is very broke that way, almost a failure.

    you complain about large corporations because they programmed you to fight what is right...

    You my friend, are doing the work for them

    I am not a Democrat or a Republican

    I am an American, from the bloodline of Washington

    so you really do have a choice, you can keep fighting for TPB, or can wake up and stand beside us against them...
    Obama is one of them, bloodline one of them too.
    Oh and you wanna know about freedom of expression in the west now? There are certain things you can't say in public. In some countries, you get arrested, in others, like America, they just use the media to execute you.

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    I said Democracy wasn't a dirty word, one day I hope we live under one...
    You do live under a democracy, although you are meant to have a republic.
    Democracy is mob rule, you can make any law you like, without restriction, with 50% +1 vote.
    Wanna kill speeders? No worries, we can do that.

    I saw an interview with Jesse Ventura once. He made the point that America is great, you get one choice more at election time than the communists did.

    On another interview, Andrew Napolitano said to him that the democrats (scamocrats) and republicans (scamicans) are left and right wing of the big government party.

    If anyone REALLY believes they are different, they need their heads read.
    It is the same in all western nations, there is no diversity in politics, as those who control don't want it.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    as long as we are under the "REPUBLICAN's AGENDA" which means we are at War, the President has the authority to step into whatever conflict deemed necessary for the spread of Democracy throughout the world...

    DEMOCRACY is not a bad word...

    It is what America stands for, along with all that want it...
    Unfortunately Rocky,

    Democracy is like 2 wolves saying who's for dinner!



    You get to elect a Republican or Democratic 'Tapped Puppet' that's all...

    Democracy is a 'Scam' it's really all about the Party for the Party and Guess What? They Don't give a 'SHYTE' about what the voting public thinks!

    We are all just the cannon fodder for their 'Agenda'!

    What part of 'Un-Constitutional Govt', don't the American people understand? It's the same all over the world! Democracy has been 'Hijacked' by the PTB!

    The sooner the people 'Wake Up' to this 'Fact' the better..!
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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    funny you mention Jesse, I know him from before he was Governor...

    did you know it is possible to drink a pitcher of beer in under 20 seconds?

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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    I said Democracy wasn't a dirty word, one day I hope we live under one...
    The United States already does, and this is what has been imposed worldwide; you already have that which you hope for.

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    naaa all of our candidates are chosen by the powers, not the people

    a grass roots organization started and was immediately changed to corporate controlled using the media to bring out their spins...

    Tea partiers were punked by TPTB

    Did any of you notice what is going on in Canada?

    Quote Canada's three opposition parties say they plan to topple the Conservative government this week, in a vote on the budget or a no-confidence motion.

    The no-confidence vote, due on Friday, stems from a ruling that the government has acted in contempt of Parliament by failing to disclose spending costs.

    A vote on the government's budget plan is expected on Thursday or Friday.

    A defeat for PM Stephen Harper on either vote would trigger Canada's fourth federal election in seven years.

    An election would probably take place on 2 or 9 May.

    The Bloc Quebecois and New Democratic Party (NDP) said on Wednesday they would back a motion of no-confidence in the minority Conservative government from the Liberals.

    Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said: "This government has lost the confidence of Canadians."...

    story link
    why do you think this is big news in Britain?

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    in truth though we do need globalisation. to work together, to move forward as one, to evolve toogether, but it is a question who is running or trying to control it!
    There is no theory of evolution...
    There is just a list of creatures that Chuck Norris allows to live

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    funny you mention Jesse, I know him from before he was Governor...

    did you know it is possible to drink a pitcher of beer in under 20 seconds?
    I loved it when he was with the WWF, both as a wrestler and general troublemaker.
    Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat.
    How do you beat that?
    I would love to meet him and thank him for all the entertainment I got from him and now, all the activism he does.
    He has a backbone, not a wishbone and that isn't so common with ''celebrities'' these days, unless the topic is politically correct.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    funny you mention Jesse, I know him from before he was Governor...

    did you know it is possible to drink a pitcher of beer in under 20 seconds?
    I loved it when he was with the WWF, both as a wrestler and general troublemaker.
    Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat.
    How do you beat that?
    I would love to meet him and thank him for all the entertainment I got from him and now, all the activism he does.
    He has a backbone, not a wishbone and that isn't so common with ''celebrities'' these days, unless the topic is politically correct.
    In one of Jesse's conspiracy shows he meets Duncan O'Finoan in a parking lot. He made Duncan look small, which he is not.

    Jesse must be on big man.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    Quote Posted by Pilgrim (here)
    I am not an American, guys, I do not mean critisize you or your country, however, it seems to me, for some time, that "democracy" in the USA became just empty word. They drag you over and over in chain of neverending wars, where real people die again and again. They call that defending, implamenting, securing democracy, defending your country or pretending they do care about people of nations which suffer under dictators when they attack another country calling themselves liberators. Where are Obama´s promises? Where is that hope and change which he promised during his presidantial campaign? Sad, very sad, I do not take this man seriously at all any more. He continues where Bush Senior started. It stinks again in Lybia. It is so obvious, so emberrasing, meaningless. If they wanted to get rid of Gadaffi they could have done that 1000times whenever before. They do not go to Liberia, Ivory Coast, Rwanda, Kongo, they left Somalia. Oil, oil oil...the same story and who know what else they have on their agendas. I lived in socialistic country. Communists fulled my nation over 40 years till poeple had enough lies and went to the streets to make change which they dreamt for long time. Now, we are part of EU. Sorry, guys, this is not democracy either, it became technocracy in the hands of elite. We need change also in your country, guys, oversees, indeed, soon. We need the change in Europe, EU is dead too. We need the real change in this World and we need it NOw. We need many more brave men like him to reach that..

    I am realy sick of this current world politics. I can not watch CNN (CNN World is tabloits) or BBC World ( tabloit style journalism too, it is sad what turned from fine journalism) news anymore. What they present is so rudiculus that it would become grotesque if matters discussed would not be serious.

    I do not wnat to be negative, just expressing my current thought, believing in that change which we expect here in AF. Cheers,P.
    You need not apologize for criticizing America. America was sacked a long time ago. Congress is only ceremonial. None of the wars you cite are legal, per our constitution. The controlling power employs the propaganda you describe and fights in the name of America, but it is only employing American assets... it is not America.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

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    Pharaoh,

    the day Obama became president was the day PTB realized they were no longer in control.
    I don't follow what you mean here at all... Did you really mean to say this?
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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

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    I said Democracy wasn't a dirty word, one day I hope we live under one...
    Democracy = two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. Sucks if you're the sheep.

    Republic = individual rights protected by law, fashioned by representation.

    I think you may be confusing democracy with a republican form of government?

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    Default "In Your Face" Hypocracy! Could Obama be Impeached over Libya? Let’s ask Biden!

    You Tube Admits To Freezing View Count On Biden Impeachment Video...

    By both Biden’s and Obama’s own admissions, they should be removed from office. Period!

    The video (below) dates from 2007 and shows Biden, then preparing for a presidential run, appearing on the Chris Matthews show on MSNBC.

    In the video Biden is asked if he sticks by comments that bombing Iranian interests without Congressional approval would be an impeachable offense, to which he replies he absolutely does.

    The video was posted at the top of The Drudge Report earlier today, a website that conservatively receives 36 million visits per day, making it the most highly ranked news website on the web.

    Under the headline Could Obama be Impeached over Libya? Let’s ask Biden, the video has been drawing thousands of hits as viewers have drawn the comparison to the subversion of Congressional authority by Biden and Obama via US involvement in UN sanctioned attacks on pro-Gaddafi forces and buildings.



    Obama recieving his Nobel Peace Prize! WTF! Give it back you Hypocrite!




    http://www.prisonplanet.com/you-tube...ent-video.html
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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    What's needed is a world parliament,
    elected by delegates from every country on earth.

    And those delegates have to be picked by the people,
    not the media, nor corporations.

    It will take a while.
    First comes the idea, the vision...the debate
    The rest follows...

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    Sorry but I think a World Parliament is a horrible idea. The UN has done little to no good since its inception and a world parliament would just be more of the same.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

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    Sorry but I think a World Parliament is a horrible idea. The UN has done little to no good since its inception and a world parliament would just be more of the same.
    Not if it really reflects the will of the people of the earth.
    The UN was always too removed...
    a large part of the world population hardly know of its existence.
    maybe it is only a matter of reforming the UN,
    with a decent set of checks and balances...

    While events like tsunamis happen which affect more than one country
    there ought to be a body that can oversee and coordinate the response.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    No Government will ever reflect the will of the people. It is something the founders of the USA tried to tell us over and over again. It is why our intend was to have a limited government with checks and balances. Any form or World Government will just be selective oppression on a larger scale.

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    Quote Posted by Setras (here)
    in truth though we do need globalisation. to work together, to move forward as one, to evolve toogether, but it is a question who is running or trying to control it!
    Maybe it is UNITY that we want and not globalisation.it is all the above you mentioned Setras,but allowing the differences of nationality and cultures,those of earth and beyond,to maintain their individuality,their characters,and free spirit by respecting and cooperating with everyone else on the basis of Holographic society.
    This will lead to a creation of a variegated carpet wich have not one head and no controlling mechanism.

    Bill Ryan was clearly explaining it once in a chat :


    "A holographic organization ( as far as I understand it!) is when there's no pyramid top-down control structure. It's a flat network that still keeps going even if half of it is suddenly removed.

    That's the analogy with a hologram, which still works fine even if it's cut in half. Everyone is valuable and no-one is indispensable. So it can't be stopped by (e.g.) taking over a management level near the top

    John: A holographic structure mirrors the structure of reality, even as physicists are understanding it: "The whole is contained in each of the parts.

    Bill Ryan: A holographic community (in my view) is like a beehive in which there are all kinds of autonomous projects that spontaneously start up and no-one person is masterminding it all.

    It needs co-ordination (the function) but not a status-role (a co-ordinator with a fixed position in the organization).

    Bill Ryan: If the networking structure is in place and there's enough energy, commitment and expertise there, then management isn't needed apart from light co-ordination now and then.

    Holographic organizations I think are related to morphic resonance (Sheldrake) - people learn quickly and start to think really together in synergistic ways…without losing individuality."


    * Thanks to 'dancing particle' for the emphasis and the quotation the chat

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    naaa all of our candidates are chosen by the powers, not the people

    a grass roots organization started and was immediately changed to corporate controlled using the media to bring out their spins...

    Tea partiers were punked by TPTB

    Did any of you notice what is going on in Canada?

    Quote Canada's three opposition parties say they plan to topple the Conservative government this week, in a vote on the budget or a no-confidence motion.

    The no-confidence vote, due on Friday, stems from a ruling that the government has acted in contempt of Parliament by failing to disclose spending costs.

    A vote on the government's budget plan is expected on Thursday or Friday.

    A defeat for PM Stephen Harper on either vote would trigger Canada's fourth federal election in seven years.

    An election would probably take place on 2 or 9 May.

    The Bloc Quebecois and New Democratic Party (NDP) said on Wednesday they would back a motion of no-confidence in the minority Conservative government from the Liberals.

    Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said: "This government has lost the confidence of Canadians."...

    story link
    why do you think this is big news in Britain?
    Please Rocky, if you know why, tell me.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Ron Paul is one of the few true statesmen left in Congress. Sad indeed. I worry about him though. I'm afraid he may be "Paul Wellstoned" for speaking out.
    Only if people like you send that energy his way. Send THE love and THE light instead!

    Hate to admit it but he's right here.

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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    naaa all of our candidates are chosen by the powers, not the people

    a grass roots organization started and was immediately changed to corporate controlled using the media to bring out their spins...

    Tea partiers were punked by TPTB

    Did any of you notice what is going on in Canada?

    Quote Canada's three opposition parties say they plan to topple the Conservative government this week, in a vote on the budget or a no-confidence motion.

    The no-confidence vote, due on Friday, stems from a ruling that the government has acted in contempt of Parliament by failing to disclose spending costs.

    A vote on the government's budget plan is expected on Thursday or Friday.

    A defeat for PM Stephen Harper on either vote would trigger Canada's fourth federal election in seven years.

    An election would probably take place on 2 or 9 May.

    The Bloc Quebecois and New Democratic Party (NDP) said on Wednesday they would back a motion of no-confidence in the minority Conservative government from the Liberals.

    Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said: "This government has lost the confidence of Canadians."...

    story link
    why do you think this is big news in Britain?
    Because Harper is about to get royally ****-canned like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were?

    And for good reason. Harper is one of the few brown-nosers left from the G.W Bush era (Blair being the other one).

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    Default Re: Ron Paul: Obama Moving Us Toward "One World Government"!

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    Quote Posted by risveglio (here)
    Sorry but I think a World Parliament is a horrible idea. The UN has done little to no good since its inception and a world parliament would just be more of the same.
    Not if it really reflects the will of the people of the earth.
    The UN was always too removed...
    a large part of the world population hardly know of its existence.
    maybe it is only a matter of reforming the UN,
    with a decent set of checks and balances...

    While events like tsunamis happen which affect more than one country
    there ought to be a body that can oversee and coordinate the response.
    Agreed risveglio,

    Why do so many of you get so confused between a positive spiritual 'Collective Consciousnes' and our amazing cultural diferences and identities and a One World Govt?

    I don't and never will understand the New Age propaganda which I believe has been severely infiltrated by the PTB!

    It's not Rocket Science folks...

    Collective Consciousness - Oneness with Onself & the Universe - Individual Identities all across the world with a Spritual Connection of Oneness...

    At the moment with all the Major Disasters going on around the planet it is only strengthening our Spiritual Connection with each other on a daily basis. And is having an uncanny effect of exposing coverups and corruptions aswell...Coincedence? Yes I think so..!

    We don't need a World Govt. we just need Honest Govts!
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