UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place

[shiva777]

UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place

sightings increasing at a phenomenal rate.Benevolent Et's? BLUEBEAM? NEPHILIM RETURNING? PORTALS? NEW WORLD ORDER PROPAGANDA?

there are many sides and agendas behind these phenomena
https://youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo

[Eric J (Viking)]

I'm sure we will know if its 'bluebeam' or not...

and if it is I invite it!!! ... then we can dismantle it and get on to the 'real thing'

viking

[Humble Janitor]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place

sightings increasing at a phenomenal rate.Benevolent Et's? BLUEBEAM? NEPHILIM RETURNING? PORTALS? NEW WORLD ORDER PROPAGANDA?

there are many sides and agendas behind these phenomena
https://youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo

Just one problem: I'm not seeing this phenomena in the skies.

If said mass sightings were true, EVERYONE would be seeing them and not just people in a few select cities/countries!

[shiva777]

mass sightings usually just refer to small groups of people,

Viking,see how many people are NOT AWARE enough to recognise bluebeam phenomena,even though many channelings try to convince you that you will be able to,,how do you know that you will know ,because Sa la su said so?...

,a related video series
http://wemustknow.net/2011/04/norway...acies-collide/

Discernment is KEY to navigating the coming times,,,thats why discussing these things is important and not being seduced in to ignorant complacency is vital..many of the forces behind the new-agey agenda are heavily focused on doing JUST THAT,Pacifying the ego so it can be easily manipulated

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Posted by Humble Janitor (here)

Posted by shiva777 (here)
UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place

sightings increasing at a phenomenal rate.Benevolent Et's? BLUEBEAM? NEPHILIM RETURNING? PORTALS? NEW WORLD ORDER PROPAGANDA?

there are many sides and agendas behind these phenomena
https://youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo

Just one problem: I'm not seeing this phenomena in the skies.

If said mass sightings were true, EVERYONE would be seeing them and not just people in a few select cities/countries!

Same here, not even a sausage.
I'm sure someone will put a spin on it. "Only the select chosen ones can see".
A "New Religion" is unfolding right before their eyes, but they refuse to see the truth.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place

sightings increasing at a phenomenal rate.Benevolent Et's? BLUEBEAM? NEPHILIM RETURNING? PORTALS? NEW WORLD ORDER PROPAGANDA?

there are many sides and agendas behind these phenomena

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo

There ya go shivanugget.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
mass sightings usually just refer to small groups of people,

Viking,see how many people are NOT AWARE enough to recognise bluebeam phenomena,even though many channelings try to convince you that you will be able to,,how do you know that you will know ,because Sa la su said so?...

,a related video series
http://wemustknow.net/2011/04/norway...acies-collide/

Discernment is KEY to navigating the coming times,,,thats why discussing these things is important and not being seduced in to ignorant complacency is vital..many of the forces behind the new-agey agenda are heavily focused on doing JUST THAT,Pacifying the ego so it can be easily manipulated

Hopefully we will see more and more folk seeing this type of phenomena...

Yes you are right not many people are aware of Bluebeam ... thats why we're here isn't it... to pass on the message... As I do outside this forum as well...I hope you do too Shiva?? ...

I assume you mean SaLuSa !!! was that an attempt of 'wit', don't give up your day job ... as for discerning I do that everyday...

You know, we are all here to learn whats what and none of us here know everything...I would be the first to admit that...this applies to you as well Shiva ... take note.

viking

[Flasky]

That sent so many shivers down my spine. The way the caller was speaking...I believed him. And all of these UFO shows well wow. just wow. And yet, I still haven't witnessed one in real life!

Guys, just a question if you could please help me understand. When the caller is telling Art about what's going...What does he mean by:

"...they are not what they claim to be..they have infiltrated a lot of aspects of the military establishment.."

Who is he talking about...the aliens, the government, the military...And infiltrated like, they have changed area 51 to something for the aliens that they are operating?

....and on another note, I can't wait for disclosure!

[steve_a]

Hi shiva777,

Although the news media is giving space to UFO sightings doesn't necessarily mean that more sightings are taking place. I'm sure that news channels have increased a lot faster than the increase of UFO sightings.

Now with the internet and increased flow of information, sightings in China and Russia are being transmitted across the globe, which twenty years ago wouldn't have been. Sure they would have been reported in the local or even national press of that country, but they wouldn't have reached much further.

To show how much UFO sightings have always taken place, it's just that we hadn't heard about it, we need look no further than governments releasing files to the public which deal with the subject, the UK being one case in point, which because of the burden of the cost of keeping such arquives stored released them on the internet, as did here in Brazil and other countries besides.

As for the motives of such releases, we can only speculate or accept, once again in the British case, of the system not being able to cope with freedom of information act enquiries, which in itself (freedom of information act law) is a relatively recent thing, having to release the documents.

But also we can't ignore the fact that every year more and more satelites are being launched to lower earth orbit and where one could try and argue that sightings have increased, also have the explanations.

Best regards,

Steve

Posted by shiva777 (here)
UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place

sightings increasing at a phenomenal rate.Benevolent Et's? BLUEBEAM? NEPHILIM RETURNING? PORTALS? NEW WORLD ORDER PROPAGANDA?

there are many sides and agendas behind these phenomena
https://youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo

[DarkSai]

Posted by Flasky (here)
That sent so many shivers down my spine. The way the caller was speaking...I believed him. And all of these UFO shows well wow. just wow. And yet, I still haven't witnessed one in real life!

Guys, just a question if you could please help me understand. When the caller is telling Art about what's going...What does he mean by:

"...they are not what they claim to be..they have infiltrated a lot of aspects of the military establishment.."

Who is he talking about...the aliens, the government, the military...And infiltrated like, they have changed area 51 to something for the aliens that they are operating?

....and on another note, I can't wait for disclosure!

I would recommend reading the Cassiopaean Experiment material for a (very good imo) answer to that.
I can wait.. I have all the "disclosure" i need.
I also just dont trust (in advance) any planned disclosure efforts by governments; they'll never tell anything close to the "real" reason "they're here" (which they have been all along) willingly.

edit: have watched the video now, he's referring to the extra-dimensional beings (what we think of as aliens) not being what they claim

[shiva777]

Flasky...area 51 ia ALL about negative ET agendas and interactions,Many in the govt and military have been conned and convinced by these ET's in to using technologies and experimentation that is aimed at enslaving ALL of humanity...even the illuminati they are working with...my feeling is they won't succeed but they have accomplished a lot already.

yeah...I suggest watching the Richard Dolan vids in this forum to get some idea of what a complex issue disclosure REALLY is...so many people are yelling "disclosure now!" and they have no idea of the complexities and very possible effects of it all...Dolan does,he has studied it for decades and it makes people like David Wilcock and many new-agers look like very naive about their cries for disclosure now...

[firstlook]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
Flasky...area 51 ia ALL about negative ET agendas and interactions,Many in the govt and military have been conned and convinced by these ET's in to using technologies and experimentation that is aimed at enslaving ALL of humanity...even the illuminati they are working with...my feeling is they won't succeed but they have accomplished a lot already.

yeah...I suggest watching the Richard Dolan vids in this forum to get some idea of what a complex issue disclosure REALLY is...so many people are yelling "disclosure now!" and they have no idea of the complexities and very possible effects of it all...Dolan does,he has studied it for decades and it makes people like David Wilcock and many new-agers look like very naive about their cries for disclosure now...

When people say disclosure now, dont assume they blatantly think that it has anything to do with addressing each agenda. What you are hearing is the voice of reasoning. Why? Because disclosure, no matter its effects, has to start somewhere and sometime.

The problem is getting our voices heard about the matter and to the right people. You say Richard Dolan is right, and I fully agree, but he lacks the drive to get the message vibrating through out the conscious grid. Thats where people like David and others play their part. It needs to be a demand of disclosure that challenges each faction that has a piece to reveal, to start thinking about how to make this happen.

Once again Shiva777, you make really good points but need to balance out your judgments.

Everyone plays an important part.

Peace

[wynderer]

to those who have never seen a 'UFO' -- one reason could be that most humans never look at the sky -- i keep an eye on it, a lot, & i also see that few humans ever look up

try pointing out chemtrails to folks --even that is difficult enough

a few years ago i saw a silver sphere hanging over a college campus i was walking thru -- i pointed it out to the young man i was walking with-- he got that eyes-glazed, shut-down look that seeing chemtrails often usually produces in people -- & nobody around the 2 of us stopped to look up

[shiva777]

once again firstlook ,when people say "disclosure NOW!",they often mean disclosure NOW and that it should have happened years ago...that's very clear when you look furthur in to their info and work

,you don't seem to understand that Wilcock has been saying with great excitement that disclosure would happen on certain dates years ago.....and so have many new agers...if that had happened the negative ET's would have another BIG foot in the door

Yes,Wilcock is waking up to his naive and false beliefs about Obama(yet to admit it though) the "disclosure president" and realises that disclosure NOW needs to happen after much of the illuminati are dethroned,..just one of many reality checks Wilcock has had and will continue to have..it is good that he realises Disclosure is more complicated than he thought a few years ago

[firstlook]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
once again firstlook ,you don't seem to understand that Wilcock has been saying with great excitement that disclosure would happen on certain dates years ago.....and so have many new agers...so your argument is not "balanced" or accurate....yes Wilcock is waking up to the fact that Obama is just another illuminati stooge(but not openly admitting he was wrong) and is now saying that disclosure needs to happen after a lot of the illuminati are dethroned..

What I'm saying has nothing to do with the certain opinions of Mr. Wilcock. I never said who is more valid or not.

Its about the desire for disclosure. Do not confuse the details of how it will play out with the general tone.

It needs to happen. The difference of opinions is a good thing. Everyone has a important point to make.

Thats all.

I understand your merely trying to prop up who you think is more intelligent about the matter. Thats a good thing.

Just try to be less judge and jury, and inspire people to look at the bigger picture.

I repeat it again, Everyone plays an important part.

Peace

[shiva777]

what you call a judgement,I call a discernment...of course everyone is playing their part,some more naively than others

[firstlook]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
what you call a judgement,I call a discernment...of course everyone is playing their part,some more naively than others

But true discernment is about the facts and not the person.

True discernment inspires the search for truth, it doesn't condemn the path of others.

You talk about Richard Dolan and David Wilcock as if they have opposing ideas. When thats actually not the case.

Just different methods of how to obtain some peace and truth in this world.

This is no hierarchy of truth. Just those who contribute and those who are searching for something to contribute.

Peace

[shiva777]

that's your ideas on Dolan and wilcock and on discernment or your discernment on what discernment means...lol...as you say "This is no hierarchy of truth"..so what is "true" discernment,your heirarchy of what it is?...calling others naive is not condemnation,it is a shared discernment..

and here's some info on area 51 that may interest some...feel free to discern this as naive,disinfo,rubbbish or whatever,,,doesn't bother me

http://www.disclose.tv/members/actio...im_Killed_pt1/

[firstlook]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
that's your ideas on Dolan and wilcock and on discernment or your discernment on what discernment means...lol...as you say "This is no hierarchy of truth"..so what is "true" discernment,your heirarchy of what it is?...calling others naive is not condemnation,it is a shared discernment

and here's some info on area 51 that may interest some...feel free to discern this as naive,disinfo,rubbbish or whatever,,,doesn't bother me

http://www.disclose.tv/members/actio...im_Killed_pt1/

I'm not sure what we disagree about actually. I support much of what you say.

It seems that you like to polarize opinions. If you understand discernment, then you see it has no hierarchy of "truth" because situations differ from event to event and the people have their own goals they want to address.

Thats what I mean by discernment. The facts should only lead to more facts. How to utilize them is up to the individual. Saying one path is more effective then another is naturally an assumption since talking about it doesn't make it so.

I merely trying to balance the playing field on what you assume is more "useful".

Effectiveness is the measure of truth, and each individual is looking for different truth. Wisdom comes when you can piece them together without contradiction and hierarchy.

Peace

[shiva777]

yeah..I'm not talking about "usefulness"..I'm talking about naivety and the validity of sharing that discernment ...

you seem to have no problem in saying that "it seems you like to polarize opinions"...and you are entitled to that discernment.Although I don't agree with it,I won't call it a judgement...like you have accused me of doing


.and I agree with what you have said here

"I'm not sure what we disagree about actually. I support much of what you say. "

as you can see we can keep going around in circles on this ..lol..
and basically agree about the important issue of looking at the many complexities of disclosure and not just naively screaming "disclosure NOW!"(as in,do it TODAY)