Question for Those in The Know

[sjkted]

I certainly hope not to step on anyone's toes, but could someone tell me what happened to shiva?

--sjkted

[Icecold]

No, but I'd be interested in an explanation.

[Lily de Cuir]

Hi sjkted,

They may be on 'vacation'. There was a bit of a stoush yesterday and the other poster said they were going to report them for stalking and negative remarks. I think it was 'shiva777', not shiva.

Cheers,
Lily

[sjkted]

shiva777 just posted and had his posts removed. Now he can't even receive pms.

--sjkted

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Posted by Lily de Cuir (here)
Hi sjkted,

They may be on 'vacation'. There was a bit of a stoush yesterday and the other poster said they were going to report them for stalking and negative remarks. I think it was 'shiva777', not shiva.

Cheers,
Lily

Do you mean vacation as a euphemism or are you saying he just picked up his bags and went on a holiday?

--sjkted

[Lily de Cuir]

Posted by sjkted (here)
shiva777 just posted and had his posts removed. Now he can't even receive pms.

--sjkted

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Posted by Lily de Cuir (here)
Hi sjkted,

They may be on 'vacation'. There was a bit of a stoush yesterday and the other poster said they were going to report them for stalking and negative remarks. I think it was 'shiva777', not shiva.

Cheers,
Lily

Do you mean vacation as a euphemism or are you saying he just picked up his bags and went on a holiday?

--sjkted

Lol...no, I mean banned for a week.

Lily

[sjkted]

Could a mod confirm what happened? It's not good to have people just disappearing...

--sjkted

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Was he at least read his Miranda rights and given the right of habeas corpus?

--sjkted

[loveandgratitude]

Shiva 777 in on line right now...you can find him hanging out at Darla'a post in spirituality

[sjkted]

But, his profile says he is now retired (in the last few hours) and he is unable to receive PMs.

--sjkted

[sjkted]

For those who care:

I have heard from shiva777 and he was banned by Bill from the forum and his messages were deleted along with mine.

He is now active on Nexus2012 with the screen name Krystic.

Shame on all the mods for allowing this to go unanswered. This forum is hemorrhaging it's best members, while most do not know and other stand by idly.

--sjkted

[firstlook]

I found Shiva777 pretty intelligent. He also seemed attached though. If anything, I think we all come here to detach from ourselves, as hard and odd as that may sound.

Was there a incident where he allowed his attachment to insult someone? If so, I do believe that we should allow some forgiveness, but only if the individual is able to show some humility. This is a complicated process.

Sometimes I wish I was a Mod and would like to test my ability to make people appreciate different opinions. But then I realize I am still pretty new at discovering exactly how I want to express everything that I dont know while still contributing to this forum.

I think its best to forgive those who are banned and forgive those who banned them. That way, you simply let the fear of doing something wrong disappear from both the members and the MOD's.

IMO.

[sjkted]

Shiva777 did not insult "somebody". He questioned Bill's thinking on one of his threads.

--sjkted

[firstlook]

Posted by sjkted (here)
Shiva777 did not insult "somebody". He questioned Bill's thinking on one of his threads.

--sjkted

Can you point me to the thread and post?

Thanks

[sjkted]

No, as I said it was deleted as well as my posts.

This was the thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nto#post198749

--sjkted

[Isthatso]

Posted by sjkted (here)
For those who care:

I have heard from shiva777 and he was banned by Bill from the forum and his messages were deleted along with mine.

He is now active on Nexus2012 with the screen name Krystic.

Shame on all the mods for allowing this to go unanswered. This forum is hemorrhaging it's best members, while most do not know and other stand by idly.

--sjkted

'Hemorrhaging it's best members' - that might be a bit inconsiderate to the hundreds of others that enjoy this forum..

Some people will change, some will be on many forums....it's the nature of the beast.

Warm wishes..

[firstlook]

So what was Shiva777's question and your posts about?

[sjkted]

I certainly meant no disrespect to current members. But, there is the issue of the members who built the forum into something a decent number of people would want to visit. And, these people are being pushed out and there is certainly a lot going on behind the scenes.

--sjkted

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Posted by firstlook (here)
So what was Shiva777's question and your posts about?

Shiva777 questioned Bill's thinking on being "taken" by the Charles material and I was questioning his interests in privately banning a solid member and then refusing to admit he was the one who banned shiva777.

--sjkted

[firstlook]

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Posted by firstlook (here)
So what was Shiva777's question and your posts about?

Shiva777 questioned Bill's thinking on being "taken" by the Charles material and I was questioning his interests in privately banning a solid member and then refusing to admit he was the one who banned shiva777.

--sjkted

Sounds like you guys were being demanding. Possibly passive aggressive. "refusing to admit" is like saying he deserves to be interrogated. Despite many peoples beliefs, No one here has to answer anything. You either take their word or you dont. This removes "blame" and resentment which is not good for both parties.

IMO.

I mean that with all do respect. People shouldnt be in forums where they argue with one another.

[sjkted]

I'm not sure demanding would be the right word. Dissenting maybe. Questioning, definitely. But I just don't get that this was deserving of a private ban considering that shiva777 merely said what many of us (soon to be banned or already quit) were already thinking. This is not my idea of what Avalon is with a trusted leader or otherwise.

--sjkted

[firstlook]

I just realized I have no real opinion on the matter since it doesn't involve me.

I just wish everyone the best and hope they find where they need to be.

[Isthatso]

I understand where you're coming from, however what purpose do these types of statements serve??

"shiva777 merely said what many of us (soon to be banned or already quit) were thinking".

It's all quite dramatic and I'm sure could be dealt with by pm to a moderator..

I agree with firstlook.

Peace and warm wishes to all