Understanding the timescale of Kali Yuga.

[jorr lundstrom]

I kind of like the colour blue associated to Kali. Kali yuga seems to contain a lot

of s##t of different origin. But when it all comes down to dust I suppose that it

all comes from the same kind of source, some beings filled with it and no ideas

of how to handle it. Kali is a hard teacher and everyone cant stand her concentrated

acid. Love and carrots on me.

[ThePythonicCow]

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jorr l.

jorr lundstrom

Re: Understanding the timescale of Kali Yuga.
I kind of like the colour blue associated to Kali. Kali yuga seems to contain a lot

of s##t of different origin. But when it all comes down to dust I suppose that it

all comes from the same kind of source, some beings filled with it and no ideas

of how to handle it. Kali is a hard teacher and everyone cant stand her concentrated

acid. Love and carrots on me.

please explain when do you speak of kali (the godess) and when about kali as in yuga (historical period)..if you could also provide references..

this is just to give everyone an idea of what kali may mean...you will find that blue is not mentioned anywhere...

also it would be great if the posters here referenced their entries...how about links to original articles? thanks l




कलि kali
f. goddess of time
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कलि kali
f. unblown flower
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कलि kali
f. present age
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कलि kali
f. bud
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कलि kali
m. quarrel
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कलि kali
m. losing die
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कलि kali
m. contention
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कलि kali
m. Kali, the Fourth age
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कलि kali
m. symbolical expression for the number 1
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कलि kali
m. worst of a class or number of objects
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कलि kali
m. Terminalia Bellerica
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कलि kali
m. hero
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कलि kali
m. strife
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कलि kali
m. discord
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खलि khali
m. sediment of oil or oil-cake
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काली kaalii
f. black colour
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काली kaalii
f. night
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काली kaalii
f. form of durgA
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काली kaalii
f. ink or blacking
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काली kaalii
f. worm or animalcule generated in the acetous fermentation of milk
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काली kaalii
f. one of the mAtRs or divine mothers
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काली kaalii
f. abuse
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काली kaalii
f. Ipomoea Turpethum
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काली kaalii
f. one of the sixteen vidyA-devIs
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काली kaalii
f. censure
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काली kaalii
f. kind of clay
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काली kaalii
f. defamation
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काली kaalii
f. Bignonia suaveolens
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खली khalii
f. sediment or deposit of oil
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काली kaalii
f. row or succession of black clouds
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काली kaalii
f. one of the seven tongues or flames of fire
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तूल-खलि tuula-khali
m. cotton cake
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तूलबीज-खलि tuulabiija-khali
m. cottonseed cake
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[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by Metaphor (here)
Am I the only one who dont wanna spend another 426 887 years in here?

Those 426 887 years will be over real fast. And then the ride will be a little easier again.

If you look back, the last 426 887 years has passed in no time.

I like it here, so I stay for this bumpy ride. Anyhow, its impossible to get bored

on this lavish journey through Kali Yuga. Love and yoghurt.

[Icecold]

HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS AND THE PHYSICAL WORLD

'Om Isha vasyam idam sarvam, yat kincha jagatyam jagat'

"All this- whatever exists in this changing universe, is pervaded by God"
-Isa Upanishad

"Om purnamadah purnamidam purnaat purnamudachyate,
purnasya purnamadaya purnamevaavashishyate"

"That (pure consciousness) is full(perfect); this(the manifest universe of matter; of names and forms being maya) is full. This fullness has been projected from that fullness. When this fullness merges in that fullness, all that remains is fullness."
-Peace invocation- Isa Upanishad

"The Supreme Brahman(God) is the only Reality. The idea of the phenomenal universe is falsely superimposed upon it."
Swami Nikhilananda of Ramakrishna-Vivekananda Centre, New York.

THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS THEOREM ARE STAGGERING

In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world. In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

THE RISHI'S VISION

The Rishi's vision of a world in which man participates in a seamless existence, indivisibly united with the universe around him, resonates through a discovery called "BELL'S THEOREM". This discovery, first proposed in 1964 by the physicist John S. Bell was first confirmed by experiment in 1972 by Professor John Clauser at Berkley. It is an almost unbelievable result - unbelievable because the logical mind has great difficulty in comprehending how it can be true. Its impact on the physics community has been enormous. Professor Henry Stapp, a physicist at Berkley and an authority on the implications of Bell's Theorem, has called it THE MOST IMPORTANT DISCOVERY IN THE HISTORY OF SCIENCE.

A description of the proof of Bell's theory, as given by Stapp reads:

"If the statistical predictions of quantum theory are true, an objective universe is incompatible with the law of local causes."

Although formidable at first glance, Bell's Theorem seems simpler once key terms are understood.

First, an "objective universe" is simply one that exists apart from our consciousness.

Secondly, the "law of local causes" refers to the fact that events in the universe happen at a speed that does not exceed the speed of light. Things happen, in other words, always at the speed of light or less.This limitation is imposed by Einstein's special theory of relativity, and is a mainstay of modern physical theory. To be accurate, in actual experimental situations, it is not Bell's Theorem that is tested, but the predictions of Quantum Mechanics.

In 1935, Albert Einstein, together with Nathan Rosen and Boris Podolsky proposed through flawless mathematical reasoning that if the quantum theory were correct, then 'A change in the spin of one particle in a two particle system would affect its twin simultaneously, even if the two had been widely separated in the meantime'. And 'simultaneous' is a dirty word in the theory of special relativity, which forbids the transmission of any signal faster than the speed of light. Obviously, a signal telling the particle 'what to do' would have to travel faster than the speed of light if instantaneous changes were to occur between the two particles.

The dilemma into which Einstein, Rosen and Podolsky dragged the quantum theory was a profound one, coming to be known as THE ERP EFFECT.

In 1964 Bell's Theorem emerged as a proof that Einstein's impossible proposition did in fact hold true: instantaneous changes in widely separated systems did occur.

In 1972, Clauser confirmed the statistical predictions of quantum mechanics, working with an elaborate system involving photons, calcite crystals, and photo multiplier tubes The experiment has since been run several times with the same consistent results; Bell's Theorem stands solid.

THE IMPLICATIONS OF BELL'S THEOREM ARE PRACTICALLY UNTHINKABLE

Even for the physicists involved, the implications of Bell's Theorem are practically unthinkable. Mathematics and experimentation have taken us where our logical mind cannot go. Imagine, two particles once in contact, separated even to the ends of the universe, change instantaneously when a change in one of them occurs!

Slowly, new ideas are emerging to explain these unthinkable occurrences. One view is that, in some unexplainable way, the separated particles are still in contact although separated in space. This is the suggestion of the French physicist Bernard D'Espagnat. In 1979, writing about quantum reality, he said that "the entire notion of an external, fixed, objective world now lies in conflict not only with quantum theory, but in facts drawn from actual experiments.... in some sense all these objects constitute an indivisible whole."

Physicist Jack Sarfatti of the Physics/Consciousness Research Group proposes that no actual energy-requiring signal is transmitted between the distant objects, but 'information' is transmitted instead. Thus no violation of Einstein's special theory of relativity occurs. Exactly what this information is is unclear, and it a strange thing which might travel instantly and require no energy to do so.

Nic Herbert, a physicist who heads the C-Life Institute, suggests that we have merely discovered an elemental oneness of the world. This oneness cannot be diminished by spatial separation. An invisible wholeness unites the objects that are given birth in the universe, and it is this wholeness that we have stumbled into through modern experimental methods. Herbert alludes to the words of the poet Charles Williams: "Separation without separateness, reality without rift."

It would be a mistake to suppose that these effects operate only with relevance to the invisible world of the atom. Professor Henry Stapp states that the real importance of these findings is that they translate directly to our microcosmic existence, implying that the oneness that is implicit in Bell's Theorem envelopes human beings and atoms alike.

The interrelation of human consciousness and the observed world is obvious in Bell's Theorem. Human consciousness and the physical world cannot be regarded as distinct, separate entities. What we call physical reality, the external world, is shaped - to some extent - by human thought. The lesson is clear; we cannot separate our own existence from that of the world outside. We are intimately associated not only with the earth we inhabit, but with the farthest reaches of the cosmos.

Certain quantum physicists now say that each part of the universe contains all the information present in the entire cosmos itself (similar to a giant oak tree producing an acorn that contains all the information to replicate itself).

This assertion is so audacious that it would be dismissed out of hand were it not for the scientific stature of its chief proponent David Bohm, a former associate of Einstein, professor of theoretical physics at Birbeck College of University of London. He is regarded as one of the pre-eminent theoretical physicists of our day.



THE HOLOGRAM

Bohm maintains that the information of the entire universe is contained in each of its parts. There is, he says, a stunning example of this principle in photography: the hologram (literally whole message).

Hologram is a specially constructed image which, when illuminated by a laser beam, seems eerily suspended in three dimensional space. The most incredible feature of holograms is that any piece of it, if illuminated with coherent light, provides an image of the entire hologram. The information of the whole is contained in each part. The entire representation of the original object is contained in each portion of the hologram. This principle, says Bohm, extends to the universe at large, that the universe is constructed on the same principles as the hologram. His theory rests on concepts that flow from modern physics. The world is an indivisible whole.

For Bohm, order and unity are spread throughout the universe in a way which escapes our senses. In the same way that order and organisation are spread throughout the hologram. Each part of the universe contains enough information to reconstitute the whole. The form and structure of the entire universe is enfolded within each part.

For many working physicists, these concepts are inescapable conclusions that flow from quantum mechanics and relativity. It is crucial to appreciate the scope of these implications. We frequently assume that quantum physics applies only to the diminutive realm of nature - electrons, protons etc., and that relativity has only to do with massive objects of cosmic proportions -stars, galaxies, nebulae etc. But Bohm's contention is that we are squarely in the middle of these phenomena. Ultimately the entire universe (with all its 'particles' including those constituting human beings, their laboratories, observing instruments etc). has to be understood as a single undivided whole, in which analysis into separately and independently existent parts has no fundamental status.

What are the implications of a holographic universe? As part of the universe, do we have holographic features ourselves that allow us to comprehend a holographic universe? This question has been answered affirmatively by Stanford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram. In an attempt to account for key observations about brain function which for decades have puzzled brain physiologists, Pribram arrived at a radical proposal: the hologram is a model brain function. In essence, the brain is the 'photographic plate' on which information in the universe is encoded.

When the proposals of Bohm and Pribram are conceptually joined, a new model of man emerges: we use a brain that encodes information holographically; and it is a hologram that is a part of an even larger hologram - the universe itself.

Pribram's radical suggestions are founded on work that originated in the laboratory of one of the pioneers of modern neurophysiology, Karl Lashley. At a time when it was popularly believed that there were specific centres in the brain for practically every human function - such as speech, vision, appetite, sleep etc.,- Lashley demonstrated that this was apparently not true for memory. Working with animals, he found that even when bulk of the cerebral cortex was surgically removed, leaving only a remnant intact, the memory of how to perform specific tasks remained. The rapidity and accuracy of the performance was frequently attenuated, but the knowledge was retained.

These findings fit poorly with existing theories about how information is stored in the brain. It was as if memory was spread everywhere in the cortex - but how? Pribram reasoned that the brain contained the memory in each of its parts. The analogy to a hologram was obvious. The entire memory pattern could be found throughout the cerebral cortex if the information had originally been encoded holographically.

In most right handed persons, the left side of the brain is presumed to control the movements of the right side of the body. In instances where the left side of the brain is injured - for example through a stroke or with a trauma -paralysis or profound weakness of the right side of the body is the predictable result. A physician, Richard Restak, has reported a case, in a twenty one year old female in which the entire left side of the brain was removed surgically in order to control epileptic seizures that were unmanageable with any other known form of therapy. The results of the therapy were astonishing.

Although the seizures were stopped, within a few weeks the woman began to regain control of the right side of her body. She was able to return to work and to lead an active social life. Where did the right side of her body receive its motor information with the left side of the brain in the surgeon's pail?

In 1975 a similar case was reported by Smith & Sugar. A six year old male underwent total removal of the left cerebral hemisphere because of intractable epileptic seizures. Conventional neurophysiological wisdom asserts that the left side of the cerebral cortex is responsible for our speech, mathematical reasoning and logical thought in general, and that the right cerebral hemisphere controls our intuitive, non-rational, non-verbal forms of thought. Yet this young man grew up to become a gifted student, proficient in verbal reasoning and language abilities, testing even into the gifted range of on standard intelligence tests.

SPACE AND TIME - THE HOLOVERSE

This indivisibility also applied fundamentally to space and time. Relativity has shown that they are inextricably linked, and cannot be teased apart.

Recall one of the possibilities embodied in Bell's theorem involving non-local features of the universe: objects once in contact, though separated spatially, even if placed at distant ends of the universe, are somehow in inseparable contact. Since any change in one immediately and unmitigatedly causes change in the other, this is a nonlocal occurance, meaning that any information passing between the two objects would have to travel faster than the speed of light to cause such instantaneous change. Since it is impossible for the speed of light to be exceeded, according to the special theory of relativity, this event is said to be noncausal-i.e. not caused by the transfer of any conceivable kind of energy passing between the distant objects.

Although these nonlocal and noncausal descriptions are worked out for objects separated in space, Bohm states that the implications of quantum theory also apply to moments in 'TIME'.

What is crucial is that, according to the theory of relativity, a sharp distinction between space and time cannot be maintained.

We all have roots in the universe. Conscious mental activity exerts measurable effects on the physical world - a world that includes human bodies, organs, tissues, and cells. Mind becomes a legitimate factor in the unfolding of health and disease. The inter-penetration of all matter is the rule. The dividing line between life and non-life is illusory and arbitrary. There is only one valid way, thus, to partake of the universe and that way is characterised by reverence - a reverence born of a felt sense of participation in the universe, of a kinship with all others and with all matter. A reverential attitude that bespeaks a oneness with the universe can transform the commonest act.

Bhagavad Gita, Ch.13,Verses 15 :

"Without and within all beings the unmoving and also the moving; because of Its subtlety, unknowable; and near and far away is That(God)".

Bhagavad Gita, Ch.13, Verse 16:

"And undivided, yet He exists as if divided in beings; He is to be known as the supporter of beings; He devours and He generates."

No division in Consciousness is admissible at any time as it is always one and the same. Even the individuality of the Jiva must be known as false, like the delusion of a snake in a rope. Shankaracharya (Aparokshanubhuti.43)

http://www.indiaoz.com.au/hinduism/a...cs_bells.shtml

[Icecold]

Erwin Schrödinger

As a result of his extensive reading of Schopenhauer's works, he became deeply interested throughout his life in color theory, philosophy,[4] perception, and eastern religion, especially Hindu Vedanta.

The Rishi’s vision – The > Rishi’s < vision of a world in which man participates in a seamless existence, indivisibly united with the universe around him, resonates through a discovery called > “BELL’S THEOREM” < . This discovery, first proposed in 1964 by the physicist John S. Bell was first confirmed by experiment in 1972 by Professor John Clauser at Berkley. It is an almost unbelievable result – unbelievable because the logical mind has great difficulty in comprehending how it can be true. Its impact on the physics community has been enormous. Professor Henry Stapp, a physicist at Berkley and an authority on the implications of Bell’s Theorem, has called it. The most important discovery in the history of science.

Erwin Schrödinger is one of the greatest physicists of 20th century was also an enigmatic figure. He was a brilliant scientist, philosopher, poet and a humanist who lead a complex personal life. He was deeply philosophical in his thoughts than any other scientist of his time, but he apparently did not make far-reaching philosophical conclusions from his work in quantum physics. He was held back because he knew there was a lack of clarity. His search for the truth never reached conclusion as his one time lover Hansi Bauer noted.

Erwin Schrödinger interest in Vedanta (one of the six schools of Hindu philosophy) and Upanishads started at a young age when he was accustomed to cold and hungry times in war-torn Vienna, but his belief in Vedanta remained the same until his death in 1961: He was a life long believer. Schrödinger was deeply influenced by the thoughts of Schopenhauer, and thus developed strong interest in Buddhist philosophy and Vedanta. He studied the works of Schopenhauer, Henry Warren, Max Welleser, Richard Garbe, Paul Deussen, Max Muller, and Rhys Davids to understand Hindu and Buddhist philosophies.

According to “Vedanta”; there exists only one universal being called the Brahman, which comprises all of reality in an undivided unity. This being absolutely homogeneous in nature: It is pure thought, which is not an attribute but the substance devoid of any qualities. The Brahman is associated with a power or a principle of illusion called Maya. As a magician creates illusion during his act, Brahman through Maya creates the appearances of the material world. Maya is the cause of the material world, and an indivisible Brahman is present in all forms of existence. The soul in reality is an infinite Brahman enmeshed in the unreal world of Maya. The unenlightened soul is incapable of looking beyond this illusion, but an enlightened soul knows the difference between its true self and the external illusory world thus paving the way for identifying itself with Brahman. This unity and continuity concept of All in One expounded in Vedanta is consistent with quantum physics where the universe is superimposed with inseparable waves of probability amplitudes. The Heisenberg uncertainty phenomenon and quantum Zeno effect is an allegory to the illusions of Maya or a prelude to the indivisible, All in One, Supreme Brahman.

Hindu philosophers believed that ego consists of thought in its relation to God, Schrödinger wished to identify ego consisted of thought and the spirit. In a letter to Einstein, he once wrote that he doesn't believe much in God the father, and Jesus Christ His son, and he lashed out Christian churches accusing them of gross superstition in their belief of individual souls. He continued to believe in the concept one universal being, the Brahman, which comprises all of reality in an undivided unity. Quantum physics has tremendous philosophical implications, which revolutionized modern thought in science and philosophy because it did not agree with the philosophy of materialism expounded by Newton.

Interpretation of quantum world suggested that strict determinism and predictability is not an accurate description of reality, and consciousness is an integral part of the laws of quantum physics. Quantum physical experiments conducted by Alain Aspect (to address Einstein's EPR experimental results) showed that measurements on correlated pairs follow the quantum mechanical predictions. This result has been found even when the particles are separated by a distance such that even an influence propagated at the speed of light does not affect the result. Thus clearly denying the local realism concept of proposed by Einstein. This simply justifies the principle concept of Vedanta; that is, the reality behind the appearances of physics as an unbreakable whole. If the physical world is real, it is holistic and not merely the sum of separate parts. The wholeness created by the wave particle duality and the indivisible nature of quantum world is in agreement with Vedanta philosophy of unity or Oneness of the Brahman.

http://www.deinayurveda.net/wordpress/?p=11752

Science and Vedanta - H. M. GANESH RAO
http://www.here-now4u.de/eng/science_and_vedanta.htm

MODERN SCIENCE AND VEDANTA
http://vsc.iitm.ac.in/vsc.activities...es/SWjitat.htm

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0RaCOr7IMp8

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oCfAssCMrrU

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=p_2s65RbSdw

[Icecold]

Hindu Concept MAYA :The Greatest Secret - Is this World Real
Forbidden Discoveries - Ancient Atomic Blast and Aeronautical Science

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PfhV_Hns4

Ancient Aircraft Vimana's

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wFssEh-b7A8

[Icecold]

All of the above material is irrefutable proof that the Vedic Scriptures are the origin of modern physics and accepted scientific thought regarding the nature of the universe.

Therefore, the evidence within the texts themselves relating to calculations of timescale of Kali Yuga is undoubtedly correct.

[modwiz]

Posted by Paul (here)
I have (once again) deleted some off-topic or otherwise inappropriate posts from this thread.

It is important that Project Avalon provide a hospitable forum for a variety of perhaps controversial viewpoints that seem to have some serious merit. This includes allowing threads presenting such material to remain sufficiently focused that they can provide a healthy venue for discussion, without excessive interruptions or distractions.

Please, if you choose not to contribute to a thread in a manner respecting the material of that thread -- post on some other thread instead. Each thread will have its own range of viewpoints within which dissent and discussion is healthy, and outside of which, it is a disruption or distraction. It is the responsibility of each poster to a thread to find and respect those boundaries, just as it is in real life discussions between responsible adults.

OK Paul, you did a really good job. Such a good job in fact that although some of my posts were part of your housecleaning, your efforts made those posts unnecessary and help me to show only my better side.

Thank you for your time and efforts to allow this thread to take the high road it set out upon.

[Lettherebelight]

Clicking on 'thanks' is no longer sufficient response to the great effort you have put forth in sharing this knowledge, Icecold. The Vedas are vast, indeed, and they deal with every concievable subject. One could spend lifetimes studying them. In spite of this you managed to focus on this one discussion point. A brave undertaking too, as there is a lot of misunderstanding on the yuga cycles.

Posted by Icecold (here)
All of the above material is irrefutable proof that the Vedic Scriptures are the origin of modern physics and accepted scientific thought regarding the nature of the universe.

Therefore, the evidence within the texts themselves relating to calculations of timescale of Kali Yuga is undoubtedly correct.

...and I would certainly agree with this conclusion!

[Agape]

You need to understand Kala means time , the Time of the Universe and Kaalii ( ) is one of his super-powers.

Kala has 16 shaktis, 16 digits, different meters of Time. They are tiny little units, the speeds, the colors of light .
Here on the earth you seem to get 3 predominant color , sorry time lenghts.

But you can presume there are more than these elsewhere in the Universe .

Kali ( pronounced Kaalii ) is like the Self awareness , the awareness of reality , the shortest wave filling the whole space .

[RedeZra]

it is possible and perhaps more likely than not that after thousands of years of translation and annotation even the ancient Vedas are not without some faults

the great Sri Yukteswar the guru of Paramhansa Yogananda was an expert in Vedic astrology and a believer in both the Bhagavad Gita and the Bible

Sri Yukteswar in his book 'The Holy Science' from 1894 traced what he believed to be a timescale error because of wrong interpretation by certain Sanskrit scholars during the dark age of Kali Yuga which subsequently lead the astronomers and astrologers to wrong calculations

“The position of the world in the Dwapara Sandhi era at present (A. D. 1894) is not correctly shown in the Hindu Almanacs. The astronomers and astrologers who calculate the almanacs have been guided by wrong annotations of certain Sanskrit scholars (such as Kullu Bhatta) of the dark age of Kali Yuga, and now maintain that the length of Kali Yuga is 432,000 years, of which 4994 have (in A D. 1894) passed away, leaving 427,006 years still remaining. A dark prospect! And fortunately one not true.” - Sri Yukteswar

A dark prospect indeed if Kali Yuga is to be the main mentality on earth for over 400 000 years more !


think about it

perhaps mankind did hit rock bottom with just some 30 years of life expectancy during the Dark Ages



Sri Yukteswar also proposed in 1894 that our sun is a binary star and that is the cause of precession ; )

[Seikou-Kishi]

This Sri Yukteswar that you're quoting... he didn't happen to mention how long is true if 427, 006 is not, did he? lol

[RedeZra]

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)
This Sri Yukteswar that you're quoting... he didn't happen to mention how long is true if 427, 006 is not, did he? lol

yes Yukteswar says our sun and it's dual star revolves around a Galactic Center every 24 000 years or so

this is the precessional cycle which makes up the 4 Yugas in which the Kali Yuga last only 2400 years


according to Yukteswar the earth reaches righteous rock bottom when it is farthest away from the righteous influence of Galactic Center


Yukteswar calculated the righteous rock bottom at about 500 AD when the earth was between the descending phase of Kali Yuga (lasting 1200 years) and the ascending phase of Kali Yuga (lasting 1200 years)


if Yukteswar is right then our beautiful blue jewel in the sky lifted herself above Kali in about 1700 AD

and she is on an ascending path towards Galactic Center again

[bashi]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)
This Sri Yukteswar that you're quoting... he didn't happen to mention how long is true if 427, 006 is not, did he? lol

[I]yes Yukteswar says our sun and it's dual star revolves around a Galactic Center every 24 000 years or so

Redezra: Nice picture!
Some corrections here:
Sri Y. said that our sun revolves around another bigger star with a 24000 years period. This central star seems to be identified as Alcyone. The same one depicted on the Hoover Dam plate...
Additional he says that the Alcyone system of stars (and our sun) is revolving around the galactic centre. No timeframe for that movement has been given.
The Kali Yuga ended, as said, around 1700. Now we are in Dwapara-Yuga, which will last much longer than you will live.

Agape: You are right, KALI means time.

BTW: ... and she is BLACK; it is SHIVA who is BLUE - for good reasons...(had to bring that up again )

[RedeZra]

tnx Bashi but there is no need to call it a correction when you're just confirming what I wrote

adding a little additional information


besides I'll re-correct right back at yah

if you imply that Yukteswar didn't frame a time of 24 000 years

rotation of our binary star system

around the Galactic Centre

[Tangri]

I think You need to re-calculate it.


{1 year of humans = 1 day of the devā-s.
1 year = 365 days ( some use 360 to match a perfect circle in degrees º ) = 1 day of the devā-s.
Hence 4,800 devā years X 365 days in a human year = 1,752,000 human years.
Now if we multiply by 360 we get the classical 1,728,000 human years typically associated with kṛta or satya yuga.}

1.728,000 is a days not years because you are multiplying with 365(or 360)days your finding is a How many of human days at 4,800 deva years. rest is details

[jcocks]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
it is possible and perhaps more likely than not that after thousands of years of translation and annotation even the ancient Vedas are not without some faults

the great Sri Yukteswar the guru of Paramhansa Yogananda was an expert in Vedic astrology and a believer in both the Bhagavad Gita and the Bible

Sri Yukteswar in his book 'The Holy Science' from 1894 traced what he believed to be a timescale error because of wrong interpretation by certain Sanskrit scholars during the dark age of Kali Yuga which subsequently lead the astronomers and astrologers to wrong calculations

“The position of the world in the Dwapara Sandhi era at present (A. D. 1894) is not correctly shown in the Hindu Almanacs. The astronomers and astrologers who calculate the almanacs have been guided by wrong annotations of certain Sanskrit scholars (such as Kullu Bhatta) of the dark age of Kali Yuga, and now maintain that the length of Kali Yuga is 432,000 years, of which 4994 have (in A D. 1894) passed away, leaving 427,006 years still remaining. A dark prospect! And fortunately one not true.” - Sri Yukteswar

A dark prospect indeed if Kali Yuga is to be the main mentality on earth for over 400 000 years more !


think about it

perhaps mankind did hit rock bottom with just some 30 years of life expectancy during the Dark Ages



Sri Yukteswar also proposed in 1894 that our sun is a binary star and that is the cause of precession ; )

It's about as likely as it is that the old and new christian testaments have been corrupted through retranslation and rewriting over the many thousands of years of their existance - that is, it's just about a given.. (Except that I'll bet there's a lot more chance of there existing an original - or damn well close to original - copy of the hindu texts that is publically accessable than there is of the christian scriptures).

I've read a bit more into the "golden age" of the kali yuga as well..... And it seems as though it'll only come about if we all chant the hare krishna incessantly. That means - yep, you guessed it - relinquishing your power to an outside force that smells suspiciously like the vengeful god of the old testament. No thanks.

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I've read a bit more into the "golden age" of the kali yuga as well..... And it seems as though it'll only come about if we all chant the hare krishna incessantly. That means - yep, you guessed it - relinquishing your power to an outside force that smells suspiciously like the vengeful god of the old testament. No thanks.

what you call the vengeful god of the old testament

is what I call the vanquisher of the wicked


also Krishna willed the Kurukshetra war to destroy the wicked


you just don't appreciate that God has a history of slaying the wicked

why are you wicked hehe

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Sri Y. actually pinpoints the time when the first mistake in the time calculation was made:

700 B.C. during the rule of Radscha Parikschita, at the end of the last Dwapara-Yuga, just before the start of the Kali-Yuga.
At that time King Yudhisthira was retreating will all his wise men from the palace into the mountains of the Himalaya. None of the ones left behind could calculate the start and length of the Yugas correctly. So they counted at the start of the Kali-Yuga not the year one of Kali-Y. but the year 2401 (of the Dwapara-Yuga).
Later they noticed that something was wrong and has to be corrected. But they then falsely assumed that a day of the devas/gods is one year for the humans, and so everything got messed up completely.

Another indirect evidence is that the high cultures of Atlantis and Lemuria were not many hundredthousands of years ago, as the lengthy calculation would suggest, but only tenthousand(s) years.