The sensitivity of language and people when describing race-related issues

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Chinaski (here)
bringing together the forums sounds nice in the abstract (for the record i don't think its necessary) but how can this notion be applied practically? what are you suggesting, specifically?

There are people on all three forums who have no issues with the other forums, that is a base to work with.
Then there are others who have an issue or more than one and they need to deal with that to move on.
I would like to try and help those ones first, they can join the first group later and then we can start disclosing the Charles/Atticus info just like a lot of you always wanted.
But the healing/closure thing is important too.
I don't know how to achieve that, I am open to suggestions and guidance on that.

This is something bill is not only central to, he is a fulcrum.
I realised that when I was angry at him the other day.
Instead of us throwing rocks at him (metaphorically) we need to extend our hand to him and help him past his key issue and that is being able to admit an error, apologise and move on.
Why it is an issue, I don't know, but it is a fulcrum for all three forums.
If we can join forces to help do this, then the dynamic can change.
This isn't to say bill is ''bad'' or anything like that, he is a man, he makes mistakes.
Like me.
That is why I carried on with the request for an apology and I would still like it.

Posted by mariposafe (here)
Survival has certainly been making itself known to me as an important issue in recent years. I obviously don't know what's going to happen, there are so many people with so many different, conflicting theories. All I know is that times could get very very tough. Yesterday I read the letter from the "Norwegian politician" and I had to laugh; Do these so-called "elites" really think they're oing to survive ? Most of them couldn't even make a cup of coffee for themselves, let alone master the survival skills they're going to need. If the only survivors were the "elites" (as per the end of the film 2012), that would truly be a disaster for life on this Earth. Chinaski, I understand your question, and I feel the same way, but I have a feeling money isn't going to be the key to surviving.
If you want to survive and to ensure the survival of your loved ones, I reccomend you find yourself a community of indigenous, or if not indigenous, at least poor, land-dwelling people, people who know how to plant vegetables, how to make fire, how to make clothes, to build shelters and who won't baulk at killing an animal for food. Not only will you have found yourself the best way of staying alive, you'll also have found a community of people far more sincere, genuine, supportive and reliable than any bunch of "educated", arrogant, useless, genetically inferior (yes, inbreeding tends to produce weaker gene pools) "elites". I'd also reccomend that you have a skill that is genuinely useful to the community - they don't need crystal therapists or brain surgeons, they're far more likely to value a carpenter or a sanitation engineer.
All, of course, in my not-always-so-bloody-humble opinion !

The elites do think they will survive.
The have the foreknowlege, the resources and the plan.
Most of us have none of the above.
We can change that.

Posted by FrankoL (here)
The thread is senseless (with one word: kindergarten). He said/she said, apologize now….oh please, that is really painful to read.

We all know that bad things happen in many ways. The right question would be why. There is still a lot to be learned.

Although I don't disagree with you totally, let me ask you this, do you see it as senseless because you don't get the agenda behind it?
The he said/she said thing doesn't have to be destructive, I am trying to turn that around and use the positive we can get from it.
The last part of your post is why I repped you for the post, that part is 110% correct and I thank you for adding that to the thread, that is where we are now.

Posted by Sebastion (here)
Lord Sidious......

I would ask you to check your feelings........

You have no idea of the pure power........

Of that which IS........

Authentic Consciousness.......

The "force" which creates all that IS.......

You could very well be right.
Tell me more please, I am open to all suggestions.

Posted by Blue (here)
Lord Sid,

I hope you are now finally getting a rest. I have to say that I find your tenacity and staying power pretty impressive. Its been many hours and 16 pages to carry on repeating the same point, and I have to say its a pretty simple one you are making (so simple that I did not get it straight away). When I started reading this thread I was quite annoyed with you as you wouldnt let it lie but I now see you couldnt really.
I have a couple of questions for you, the first one may be a bit off topic so sorry for that:
You seem to be an intelligent, discerning and logical man and because of this I want to know what is it about Atticus that makes you believe him and what he is telling you? There are so many people out there try to sell their particular story so why do you pick his?
Secondly,if what he says is true and what you are talking about in this thread happened and we avalonians were all now deprogrammed, having let go of our institutional behaviour and beliefs in everything we have ever known, how would that prepare us for what you say is going to happen in 5 - 10 years? What is going to happen that would make us incapable of dealing with it just because we have been programmed to varying degrees? All of mankind has survived wars, famine, genocide since time bagan and we are still here and some of us are even enjoying life and are still programmed so what is it thats going to happen to neccesitate this de-programming?
blue

blue

I am one of Atticus 18.
Bearing that in mind, there is no profit as such to make from telling me certain things, like that which I spoke of before.
None of us want to see those we care about suffer and/or die before they should.
And that includes him too, so he has a vested interest in getting things in place.

We need to prepare for a cataclysm on the scale, but not of the same type, that killed off the dinosaurs.
I know very little at this point of exact details of what is coming. I am learning and willing to inform others, that is part of what Atticus/Charles mission is now.
Thanks for the kind words, it is not easy to stick to your line when everyone is throwing stones at you, but I figure enough of you will figure that the messenger is usually not received so well, even if they tell the truth.

Posted by NancyV (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by mondaze (here)
a clear outline of your take on atticus would be helpful rob, did he give you more information?

Yes, but not enough yet to lay it all out on you.

Okay, let me see if I have this correct; you are hinting at dire information that you sort of have but don't totally have so you can't tell us yet. Charles is hinting at more dire info to you but not telling it ALL to you yet so he's stringing you along. In the meantime until you decide to tell us the whole story, which depends on Charles telling you the whole story, you're going to hint at these events in the not too distant future because you would like everyone to come up with survival ideas for.... what? The entire human race? A chosen few? Camelot, Avalon and Nexus? All from some hints from Charles?

We have no idea if any of what he said about the so called 33 and their plans to kill off large numbers of humans is correct. If he says he has information of some natural type catastrophe but will only hint to you at what it is, why would you trust his information. Why won't he just tell you? It sounds to me like he's toying with you just as he seemed to do with this forum for the short time he was here. Of course if you choose to believe him that is your business. Personally I'm done with Guru's and disaster prophecies. I've listened to too many of them over the last 40 years or so.

IF something huge happens within the next 5-10 years survival is going to be very personal for each family or small group. Living in or near a big city would be extremely dangerous. If you live in the country but there is a large city within 50-100 miles you will be in the path of many people leaving and trying to survive in any way they can. That would mean taking whatever they could take from those who have anything they can use. If you live out in the country it won't be good enough just to have a garden and be able to fish and hunt, you will need a LOT of ammo and weapons to defend yourself and your family.

If you are highly spiritually advanced to the point where you can use the force to put a protective energy barrier around your family or group or become invisible to others, that's great, but most won't be able to do that. Another alternative would be to change the timeline.

If you aren't prepared to fight and/or kill to defend yourself and your family, then you and they will probably be killed. And so? There is no death, your body will just be uninhabitable. You will then leave this earth plane/dimension and continue your adventures elsewhere. No big deal.

I can only do what I can do with what I have.
Would it be better for me to just say nothing? Then some of you would say we are hiding it from you, no?
This info is not mine to keep back, it should be there for everyone to judge for themselves what to do with it, that is an option you have NEVER been given, have you?
The last part of what you say is correct, but has one flaw, it is a big deal.
If this experience (life) is about some type of test, then what you say and do is THE big deal.

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)

Posted by FrankoL (here)
The thread is senseless (with one word: kindergarten). He said/she said, apologize now….oh please, that is really painful to read.

We all know that bad things happen in many ways.

The right question would be why. There is still a lot to be learned.

Another question could be: how does this insight help us learn?
Impudence is a conscious choice too, as much as the one to get involved and grow is.

Good point, we need to extract as much positivity from this all as we can.
We have had too much negative here and we need to turn it around.
The time for conflict in this thread and maybe across the three forums has passed.
I am interested in moving forward and helping all you guys.

[mosquito]

So how do we move forward ?
We are all of us human, we've had our glories and we've made mistakes, each of us is where we are today as a result of our life experiences. As for me, right now, I can tell you that I did years of "spiritual" progress back in the 90s, while the last 10 years has forced me to look at deeper (and I mean DEEP) issues from my own past, my families and the species. Have I got it sussed ? No. Am I "fully conscious" ? No. Do I have a plan ? No. So believe me, I am more than ready to receive help and contribute all that I am to ensuring we survive. I joined Avalon in order to make contact with like-minded people, awake to whatever degree they are, in order for us to cooperate as a species, bring together all the positive things that humans are capable of and create a world where we and our fellow Earth inhabitants can live happily, peacefully and harmoniously.
This has been a marvelous thread, like listening to a cacophonous din turn into a beautiful symphony, thanks to you all. What an excellent metaphor for moving forward !!
Love from Philip

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by mariposafe (here)
So how do we move forward ?
We are all of us human, we've had our glories and we've made mistakes, each of us is where we are today as a result of our life experiences. As for me, right now, I can tell you that I did years of "spiritual" progress back in the 90s, while the last 10 years has forced me to look at deeper (and I mean DEEP) issues from my own past, my families and the species. Have I got it sussed ? No. Am I "fully conscious" ? No. Do I have a plan ? No. So believe me, I am more than ready to receive help and contribute all that I am to ensuring we survive. I joined Avalon in order to make contact with like-minded people, awake to whatever degree they are, in order for us to cooperate as a species, bring together all the positive things that humans are capable of and create a world where we and our fellow Earth inhabitants can live happily, peacefully and harmoniously.
This has been a marvelous thread, like listening to a cacophonous din turn into a beautiful symphony, thanks to you all. What an excellent metaphor for moving forward !!
Love from Philip

Thanks Philip and love to you and the rest as well.
So you see there is a method behind my madness then?

[mosquito]

I certainly do ! I'm beginning to think that the only way to get someone to take a good hard look at themselves is to push their buttons really hard ( and this is an accepted, if debated, therapeutic tool) and even when we are all able to move on, the process doesn't stop.
I look forward to sharing more with you.

[sheddie]

Well my Lord that is welcome news indeed I must say, I for one am very interested in hearing what atticus has to say and am happy that he has not given up on us.

I also thank you for your tenacity and am grateful for your ability to articulate and remain calm ..... it make a refreshing change

It is time to move on and I would like to be one of the first to join you in your call for peace, I hope that many others will do the same and Be the Change..........

There is much to do and very little time please let us all heal this awful divide and move on, after all we all want the same thing.



much love x

[Blue]

Lord Sid,

I dont want anyone to suffer, regardless of whether I know them or not. But neither do I want to be a fool that believes in something just because someone says so - a dilemna!

blue

[W.C.]

I don't know if we have to wait for anyone to reveal anything. I don't know why people insist on dangling carrots in front of donkeys. I don't know.

I do think that enough has been released to show we need to prepare... the pole shift has been progressing, the suns been releasing who knows what which is changing at least the physical structure of matter, an asteroid body is heading towards a close shave with Earth and may have ET's tagging along or is simply being touted as such for a possible false flag.

China is preparing for war, sending ground troops into Turkey, in addition to it's already stationed air force, testing it's tech, etc. Israel is preparing placate Palestine so it can focus on war with Iran. America is all over the place, even invading Libya, and is in its early stages on Syria.

Wikileaks releases info saying Taliban will release a nuclear hellstorm is Osama is killed, only a few days before he is touted as such. Fukushima is still releasing who knows how much radiation. Mass animal deaths happening globally without cause. The New Madrid Fault line is being tampered with. The conduit is closing.

Atticus or no, do we really need more reason to prepare?

[Agape]

I can only see Sid that the forum has issues and agendas , and follow-ships and saviours of the world ,
I'm sure there are quite couple of folks here who belong to that category .

The chief problem as I see it is that we are not able to communicate together, enjoy each others spirituality,
intelligence and make sense of each other .

It's either follow him or follow me, I am not here to follow anyone sorry and not asking anyone to follow me.

I am the bearer of knowledge that is unique and was entrusted to me and I'm sovereign being.
It does not mean that I do no mistakes or do not appreciate advice,

but what sense does it all make to you here ?

Are you all Bill's followers or Charles followers or someone elses followers ?


Is it what it is about here instead of truth and research ?

[DoubleHelix]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
We need to prepare for a cataclysm on the scale, but not of the same type, that killed off the dinosaurs.
I know very little at this point of exact details of what is coming. I am learning and willing to inform others, that is part of what Atticus/Charles mission is now.

Well with that bombshell, I hope your ready for a barrage of questions to come flying your way!

Many members here have doubts concerning the Charles' material ? If the plan includes to save all.. how does He plan to regain the trust that's deteriorated since his departure?

For the record - I personally found Charles was honest and showed a lot of integrity.

[Agape]

All I read on these new age forums is how we are to get ready for great calamities, it's certainly 'very new' , very claustrophobic society expecting the worlds end.

It's 60% of the underlying content here including Charles statements ,

doomsday vault really.

What is the use of any good information to you ? Of course, it does not look like that first hands and more over,
it's total nonsense,
none of this is going to happen but there will always be factions who will hope for that it does happen and getting their sheeple ready.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Holy Moses !! IT'S ONE OF THE 18

Very exciting news.. I think your an ideal choice.

[loveandgratitude]

The best thriller novels are plot driven, present a chain of events that are compelling to the reader, and create an atmosphere of anxiety.
However, the best thriller novels do not succeed unless they focus on characters whose plight the reader cares about, and characters that evoke sympathy. Sympathetic, well-drawn characters are what make the best thriller novels, well, the best thriller novels.
I believe we have a blockbuster here. Riveting....cannot wait until the next installment

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[Agape]

It's possible that your endless alerts about when the world is going to end will wake some people but diverting them to wrong course,
you understand ?

Sorry if you don't actually .

[W.C.]

Agape, who are you speaking to? I can't seem to find who here is endlessly touting the world is going to end. All I can seem to find is caution to prepare for a coming event -- of which, there are a number, and none of which appear to be world enders.

[mosquito]

Posted by W.C. (here)
I don't know if we have to wait for anyone to reveal anything. I don't know why people insist on dangling carrots in front of donkeys. I don't know.

I do think that enough has been released to show we need to prepare... the pole shift has been progressing, the suns been releasing who knows what which is changing at least the physical structure of matter, an asteroid body is heading towards a close shave with Earth and may have ET's tagging along or is simply being touted as such for a possible false flag.

China is preparing for war, sending ground troops into Turkey, in addition to it's already stationed air force, testing it's tech, etc. Israel is preparing placate Palestine so it can focus on war with Iran. America is all over the place, even invading Libya, and is in its early stages on Syria.

Wikileaks releases info saying Taliban will release a nuclear hellstorm is Osama is killed, only a few days before he is touted as such. Fukushima is still releasing who knows how much radiation. Mass animal deaths happening globally without cause. The New Madrid Fault line is being tampered with. The conduit is closing.

Atticus or no, do we really need more reason to prepare?

China preparing for war ?? Bullsh1t.
Where do you get this information from ? MSN ? Fox news ? the good 'ol US government ?
For your information, China is openly and genuinely non-aggresive and DOES NOT invade other peoples countries. The way that the USA will get people like you to accept a war against China is for them to pre-condition you into believing all sorts of rubbish and deflect your attention from what they're doing in the world. Don't believe me ? Look how many morons accepted the war against Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Pakistan. Not to mention Vietnam. How many times does this need to be hammered home ? NOW THAT THE USA HAS REMOVED OSAMA BIN LADEN FROM YOUR MINDS, THEY NEED TO FIND A NEW "ENEMY" FOR THEM TO GENEROUSLY PROTECT YOU FROM. The evidence is actually there for you, right now !! Have they stopped their phoney "war on terror" ? No, as you can see from today's posts, God's holy government is now busy protecting people from ..... BABIES !!!!! This is all going to be stepped up, they will conjure up all sorts of imaginary threats, from China, North Korea (a puny, backward little country which is about as much threat to world peace as the recently perfectly-fu**ing-legally sexually assaulted baby) and of course the one you REALLY need to be aware of - "Homeland terrorists". Yes folks, that's YOU, anyone with a brain.
We are constantly bombarded with disinformation; to make us scared, to make us forget who we are, to divert attention from the things they don't want you to know about.
And before any of you point this out to me .......
Yes, I bloody well know that 45 minutes ago I said that people need to have their buttons pressed and look what's happened - someone's pressed mine !!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
God, I love being being human !!
Tail-between-legs and totally NON apologetic - Philip

[PurpleLama]

We cultivate our personal reality, as we live in a tapestry of time and space we change threads according to what we have allowed to grow in our own consciousness. To some this seems very abstract but to others, at least a few, this is seen as a very concrete thing in a reality that is abstract with only the appearance of substance. Therefore I cultivate peace in my home, in my workplace, with my friends, family and acquaintances, and I tell you, for me and those who share my personal reality, we will not see destruction on a massive scale. My information could be called "intuitive", I won't be more specific, so take it or leave it, please, as you will. For me, there will be no extinction level event. To my perspective, it has been tried, by the PTB or the 33 or whatever you want to conceptualize, it has been tried, and they failed, oh, if only this and that were different, it would have worked, so they try again, and again, and yet again. And humanity lives on, uncontrolled for the most part in spite of how controlled they would like for you to think you are. Every second we make a choice, in how we think, in how we feel, in how we do. It's our choice in how we choose to be. The plan has failed, is failing, will continue to fail, for no power can deny the will of Creator, and believe me, Creator has no intention of seeing humanity wiped out to serve the purpose of a few sick individuals. Not in my reality, not on my watch.

The nefarious PTB often put the truth right out front, and then smile at the fact that we don't "get it". By all accounts, Dark Lords of the Sith are a nasty bunch. Sorry, I can't help but wonder, seeing the tactics used, ostensibly to help us.

[Agape]

Posted by W.C. (here)
Agape, who are you speaking to? I can't seem to find who here is endlessly touting the world is going to end. All I can seem to find is caution to prepare for a coming event -- of which, there are a number, and none of which appear to be world enders.

Coming event, interesting, hmm, do you have it confirmed from your own intelligence, faith, secret resources ?

I can see quite few high level folks parrotting about it , one like another, each new 'whistleblower' confirms something with the previous ones so it all nicely fits, how well done . How many of them do really KNOW the truth
instead of repeating some crooked hearsay ..

Sure it's so easy to become 'whistleblower celebrities' and it only proves that they are fine, exposed to public and having chats big way.

Sure there's 0,01 % probability that something happens any time and you or I do not know the hour,
at the same time ..I know perfectly there's no such an event on the way in near time, speaking in terms of this century for example ,
not anything of the sort to be getting people ready for but there are much more important issues to sort out for humanity

and some of these doomsayers are really faking it all.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by mariposafe (here)
I certainly do ! I'm beginning to think that the only way to get someone to take a good hard look at themselves is to push their buttons really hard ( and this is an accepted, if debated, therapeutic tool) and even when we are all able to move on, the process doesn't stop.
I look forward to sharing more with you.

If you recall, I said I didn't start out with this plan, it developed.
After I figured out what I had to do, I did indeed push bill's buttons very hard as I thought that would be the only way I could get him to pay attention and react, thereby proving my point.
Not for pointscoring, but so that he couldn't deny to himself and us.
However, in a conversation with Dennis Leahy, he pointed out that was counterproductive because of the button pushing already going on with nexus and stuff.
He was right, so I changed my tactics, as you do.

Posted by sheddie (here)
Well my Lord that is welcome news indeed I must say, I for one am very interested in hearing what atticus has to say and am happy that he has not given up on us.

I also thank you for your tenacity and am grateful for your ability to articulate and remain calm ..... it make a refreshing change

It is time to move on and I would like to be one of the first to join you in your call for peace, I hope that many others will do the same and Be the Change..........

There is much to do and very little time please let us all heal this awful divide and move on, after all we all want the same thing.



much love x

This thread has been a learning experience for me too.
I am not by nature a pacifist, but I had to practise that on the thread for the common good, that taught me a lot too.
And yes, we all want the same thing, so being in different camps is not a good thing.

Posted by Blue (here)
Lord Sid,

I dont want anyone to suffer, regardless of whether I know them or not. But neither do I want to be a fool that believes in something just because someone says so - a dilemna!

blue

I don't think that it is a dilemma, it is a self defence mechanism that smart, aware people have.
I too don't feel believing someone because they say x is a good thing.
We will work on the info over time, without any type of deal where you have to believe because x says so.

Posted by W.C. (here)
I don't know if we have to wait for anyone to reveal anything. I don't know why people insist on dangling carrots in front of donkeys. I don't know.

I do think that enough has been released to show we need to prepare... the pole shift has been progressing, the suns been releasing who knows what which is changing at least the physical structure of matter, an asteroid body is heading towards a close shave with Earth and may have ET's tagging along or is simply being touted as such for a possible false flag.

China is preparing for war, sending ground troops into Turkey, in addition to it's already stationed air force, testing it's tech, etc. Israel is preparing placate Palestine so it can focus on war with Iran. America is all over the place, even invading Libya, and is in its early stages on Syria.

Wikileaks releases info saying Taliban will release a nuclear hellstorm is Osama is killed, only a few days before he is touted as such. Fukushima is still releasing who knows how much radiation. Mass animal deaths happening globally without cause. The New Madrid Fault line is being tampered with. The conduit is closing.

Atticus or no, do we really need more reason to prepare?

I am not dangling carrots, although it can be seen that way.
As for the rest of your post, I agree, I would have thought it was common sense, but that is one thing that is not common.

Posted by Agape (here)
I can only see Sid that the forum has issues and agendas , and follow-ships and saviours of the world ,
I'm sure there are quite couple of folks here who belong to that category .

The chief problem as I see it is that we are not able to communicate together, enjoy each others spirituality,
intelligence and make sense of each other .

It's either follow him or follow me, I am not here to follow anyone sorry and not asking anyone to follow me.

I am the bearer of knowledge that is unique and was entrusted to me and I'm sovereign being.
It does not mean that I do no mistakes or do not appreciate advice,

but what sense does it all make to you here ?

Are you all Bill's followers or Charles followers or someone elses followers ?


Is it what it is about here instead of truth and research ?

Of course there are agendas, people are involved and that is a natural thing.
It is harmful agendas that we should be wary of.
I agree on the communication topic as I am one that has issues at times getting across what I really mean in text.
And the 18 are not anyones followers, we are the 18, Atticus is one of us and equal to us.

Posted by DoubleHelix (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
We need to prepare for a cataclysm on the scale, but not of the same type, that killed off the dinosaurs.
I know very little at this point of exact details of what is coming. I am learning and willing to inform others, that is part of what Atticus/Charles mission is now.

Well with that bombshell, I hope your ready for a barrage of questions to come flying your way!

Many members here have doubts concerning the Charles' material ? If the plan includes to save all.. how does He plan to regain the trust that's deteriorated since his departure?

For the record - I personally found Charles was honest and showed a lot of integrity.

If I had an issue with people asking, I would not have put this up there, nor would I have told you about my part with Atticus.
For me, I only plan on ''saving'' those around me, the rest I can only put the info out for them to peruse and consider.
I am not a ''jesus the christ'' and I can't save all humanity, I don't have that right or the skills needed.
Atticus is honest and does indeed have integrity and is very easy to like.

Posted by Agape (here)
All I read on these new age forums is how we are to get ready for great calamities, it's certainly 'very new' , very claustrophobic society expecting the worlds end.

It's 60% of the underlying content here including Charles statements ,

doomsday vault really.

What is the use of any good information to you ? Of course, it does not look like that first hands and more over,
it's total nonsense,
none of this is going to happen but there will always be factions who will hope for that it does happen and getting their sheeple ready.

Sorry, I am not sure what you mean.
Could you explain please?

Posted by W.C. (here)
Agape, who are you speaking to? I can't seem to find who here is endlessly touting the world is going to end. All I can seem to find is caution to prepare for a coming event -- of which, there are a number, and none of which appear to be world enders.

It's ok W.C, don't stress, this will all play out, we will figure out what we all mean and then we can get down to the action.

Posted by mariposafe (here)

Posted by W.C. (here)
I don't know if we have to wait for anyone to reveal anything. I don't know why people insist on dangling carrots in front of donkeys. I don't know.

I do think that enough has been released to show we need to prepare... the pole shift has been progressing, the suns been releasing who knows what which is changing at least the physical structure of matter, an asteroid body is heading towards a close shave with Earth and may have ET's tagging along or is simply being touted as such for a possible false flag.

China is preparing for war, sending ground troops into Turkey, in addition to it's already stationed air force, testing it's tech, etc. Israel is preparing placate Palestine so it can focus on war with Iran. America is all over the place, even invading Libya, and is in its early stages on Syria.

Wikileaks releases info saying Taliban will release a nuclear hellstorm is Osama is killed, only a few days before he is touted as such. Fukushima is still releasing who knows how much radiation. Mass animal deaths happening globally without cause. The New Madrid Fault line is being tampered with. The conduit is closing.

Atticus or no, do we really need more reason to prepare?

China preparing for war ?? Bullsh1t.
Where do you get this information from ? MSN ? Fox news ? the good 'ol US government ?
For your information, China is openly and genuinely non-aggresive and DOES NOT invade other peoples countries. The way that the USA will get people like you to accept a war against China is for them to pre-condition you into believing all sorts of rubbish and deflect your attention from what they're doing in the world. Don't believe me ? Look how many morons accepted the war against Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Pakistan. Not to mention Vietnam. How many times does this need to be hammered home ? NOW THAT THE USA HAS REMOVED OSAMA BIN LADEN FROM YOUR MINDS, THEY NEED TO FIND A NEW "ENEMY" FOR THEM TO GENEROUSLY PROTECT YOU FROM. The evidence is actually there for you, right now !! Have they stopped their phoney "war on terror" ? No, as you can see from today's posts, God's holy government is now busy protecting people from ..... BABIES !!!!! This is all going to be stepped up, they will conjure up all sorts of imaginary threats, from China, North Korea (a puny, backward little country which is about as much threat to world peace as the recently perfectly-fu**ing-legally sexually assaulted baby) and of course the one you REALLY need to be aware of - "Homeland terrorists". Yes folks, that's YOU, anyone with a brain.
We are constantly bombarded with disinformation; to make us scared, to make us forget who we are, to divert attention from the things they don't want you to know about.
And before any of you point this out to me .......
Yes, I bloody well know that 45 minutes ago I said that people need to have their buttons pressed and look what's happened - someone's pressed mine !!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
God, I love being being human !!
Tail-between-legs and totally NON apologetic - Philip

Get a haircut ya nugget.

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
By all accounts, Dark Lords of the Sith are a nasty bunch. Sorry, I can't help but wonder, seeing the tactics used, ostensibly to help us.

There is a time and place for nice.
And for nasty.
I can do both, it depends on the situation. I can be utterly ruthless if I have to protect those I care about and I have been and will be again.
You can believe I want to help and extend that to Atticus and the 18 to, or not.
I will not try to convince you either way, but I would suggest that you keep an open mind and allow yourself the opportunity to figure out what is going on.

Posted by Agape (here)

Posted by W.C. (here)
Agape, who are you speaking to? I can't seem to find who here is endlessly touting the world is going to end. All I can seem to find is caution to prepare for a coming event -- of which, there are a number, and none of which appear to be world enders.

Coming event, interesting, hmm, do you have it confirmed from your own intelligence, faith, secret resources ?

I can see quite few high level folks parrotting about it , one like another, each new 'whistleblower' confirms something with the previous ones so it all nicely fits, how well done . How many of them do really KNOW the truth
instead of repeating some crooked hearsay ..

Sure it's so easy to become 'whistleblower celebrities' and it only proves that they are fine, exposed to public and having chats big way.

Sure there's 0,01 % probability that something happens any time and you or I do not know the hour,
at the same time ..I know perfectly there's no such an event on the way in near time, speaking in terms of this century for example ,
not anything of the sort to be getting people ready for but there are much more important issues to sort out for humanity

and some of these doomsayers are really faking it all.

Seeing as I am talking of a future event, I can't tell you that I KNOW it is coming, because that would be contradictory.
Let me put this to you, I have Atticus, Germaine and a bloodline behind me.
Do you think they may know?

[Agape]

The agenda is succesfully pushing people who have something else to say to corner ,
there are presumptions superimposed on facts place sir,

and yourself you have no proof of what these people are saying
still dwell on that.
For what's sake ? What they've shown to you ,
psychic abilities and interesting theories I've seen elsewhere.
It does not prove that these people are correct .

You don't know and force everyone to the same category, you even don't suppose that anyone KNOWS, so for what's sake did I come here ?



I'm sure Bill knows it's a question for him.

[mosquito]

Posted by Agape (here)
I can only see Sid that the forum has issues and agendas , and follow-ships and saviours of the world ,
I'm sure there are quite couple of folks here who belong to that category .

The chief problem as I see it is that we are not able to communicate together, enjoy each others spirituality,
intelligence and make sense of each other .

It's either follow him or follow me, I am not here to follow anyone sorry and not asking anyone to follow me.

I am the bearer of knowledge that is unique and was entrusted to me and I'm sovereign being.
It does not mean that I do no mistakes or do not appreciate advice,

but what sense does it all make to you here ?

Are you all Bill's followers or Charles followers or someone elses followers ?


Is it what it is about here instead of truth and research ?

A good point, but please allow me to point something out - we are not all sitting in a circle, facing one another, looking into each other's souls. We're all sitting at keyboards, spread across mutiple timezones and hidden behind anonymous usernames. This is an intrinsically dishonest way of communicating, but it's what we've got and we have to make the most of it.
Looking through the Avalon forum, one can't help but notice a trend : Fred writes something wonderful - 3 people thank him, Sally says something wonderful - 10 people thank her, Bill writes one sentence - 347 people thank him. Hmmmm, maybe there is some sycophancy going on here, but I think you'll find that anywhere, and it's no reflection on Bill, it's human nature. I hope I speak for the majority when I say we aren't following ANYONE, we're here because we're sick of that particular game thank you. That being said, we as humans do still, occasionally need some sort of leadership. (Do you really want to get on board a plane where the pilot has absolutely no idea where you're going ?)
I think it's time I went to bed, others among you are no doubt waking up to a bright new day and wondering what's in store on the Avalon forum !
Enjoy !