Has white man colonised planet Earth?

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Paul (here)
Heh - what is this? You guys vying to see who is the victim here?

You'all making my mod duties difficult

Easy way to fix that.
Who do you want to be a member here, him or me?

[K626]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by K626 (here)
The bridge the SS was looking for is in Tibet. iirc It was Himmler who was very into it.

cheers

K

Tell us more, this is interesting.

Here mate. This is the best book.





There is also a doc out there which is high quality but hard to get hold of...

http://www.channel4.com/history/micr...nazimyths.html


My understanding was that the Thule society was really the driving force of the mythos voodoo if you like.

"Remarkable stories clustered around the Schäfer Expedition to Tibet of 1938-1939. The project was only one of several German expeditions to that part of the world at about the same time (the one that included Heinrich Harrer is perhaps the best known because of his memoir, Seven Years in Tibet), but the Schäfer Expedition had the backing of SS-Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler and of the Ahnenerbe, the research bureau reputed to be interested in the occult. Besides, it reached the then rarely visited holy city of Lhasa, and the Germans were known to have found favor with the ruling Regent.

The British feared that the Germans were attempting to organize a Himalayan Front against India in preparation for the coming war. Tibetan peasants said that the fearsome leader of the German team drank blood. Later, more imaginative rumors had it that the true purpose of the expedition was to open contacts with the diabolical forces resident in Agarthi, a hidden city of theosophical legend.

Christopher Hale is a noted producer of travel and anthropology documentaries. In this book he never shies away from reporting a lurid story or an intriguing rumor, but he manages to make the Schäfer Expedition and its participants no more fantastic than they really were. Thus, though Himmler seems to have been keen on uncovering the theosophical mysteries of Tibet, the members of the expedition were doing more or less serious science. The Germans and the Tibetans do seem to have been making tentative diplomatic overtures, though perhaps to cross purposes. And yes, the expedition’s leader did drink the blood of animals he killed: it was a hunter’s thing.

That leader was Ernst Schäfer (1910-1992), an ambitious zoologist who specialized in ornithology and big-game hunting. The book is chiefly concerned with him and with Bruno Beger (1911-2004), the team’s anthropologist. They figure most prominently among the five scientists on the expedition. They also had disturbing careers as experts in the biological sciences for the SS during the war.

Schäfer had been in Tibet before, on two specimen-gathering trips led by the wealthy American naturalist Brooke Dolan. Dolan had learned Theodore Roosevelt’s trick of getting scientific institutions (in Dolan’s case, the Philadelphia Academy of Natural History) to fund his hunting expeditions, with the happy side effect of making the hunters moderately famous. Dolan and Schäfer journeyed to eastern Tibet, a debatable land of chronic skirmishing among the Chinese Nationalist government, various war lords, the ineffectual Tibetan army, and, just in time for the second expedition, the Red Army on the Long March. On neither trip did they come anywhere near Lhasa (Dolan did reach Lhasa in 1945, as a member of the OSS), but Schäfer’s books and articles about his adventures made him something of an authority in Germany about Tibet, as well as a minor public figure. Those qualifications and his membership in the SS were more than enough to bring him to the favorable attention of Heinrich Himmler.

Schäfer had been planning his own, more thoroughly scientific expedition to Tibet as soon as he returned home in 1935 from the second and rather acrimonious Dolan expedition. He needed sponsors, and Himmler offered to help him financially and bureaucratically. Part of the cost to Schäfer was that his enterprise would be associated with the Ahnenerbe (usually translated “Ancestral Inheritance Bureau”). That SS agency really did have someone looking for information about the Holy Grail at the time; a close connection with it could ruin an academic career, even in Nazi Germany. Schäfer succeeded in refusing to include an Ahnenerbe expert who had written a novel entitled Springtime in Atlantis, and in fact the financial help that the Ahnenerbe could give was so small that its patronage was not conspicuous. Nonetheless, after his return, Schäfer would manage an independent Asia-studies institute that was technically within the Ahnenerbe."

And so on...

I've visited Wewelsburg castle and that place has a very dark aura...My girlfriend is German and I really had to talk her into it....





The Wewelsburg castle was built between 1603 and 1609, on the site of a previous castle, as a second residence for the Prince Bishops of Paderborn. It features three towers connected by walls which enclose a triangular shaped courtyard. Wewelsburg is the only three-sided castle in Germany.


The mystical side of the SS and the high command were IMO tuned into some pretty heavy exotica. Best leave it at that.



"Known as the Obergruppenführersaal in German, or the Hall of Supreme Generals in English, this room on the ground floor of the North tower was designed with 12 pillars arranged in a circle like Stonehenge in England. It was designed to be used as a ceremonial hall for the top 12 generals in the Schutzstaffel or SS, the elite army of Germany in World War II."

There was a special magic ritual as the light is meant to hit the newly ordained from the 12 windows and so on...


cheers


K

[Lord Sidious]

Aha, that is what you meant.
Ok, yeah, I know about that stuff.
Raiders of the Lost Ark is partially based on the various expeditions.

[K626]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Aha, that is what you meant.
Ok, yeah, I know about that stuff.
Raiders of the Lost Ark is partially based on the various expeditions.

Got away with not explaing the bridge.

K

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Paul (here)
Heh - what is this? You guys vying to see who is the victim here?

You'all making my mod duties difficult

Sorry Paul.

I'll refrain from responding any longer to him, as he has a long history of derailing topics. The thread shouldn't suffer because of him.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by K626 (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Aha, that is what you meant.
Ok, yeah, I know about that stuff.
Raiders of the Lost Ark is partially based on the various expeditions.

Got away with not explaing the bridge.

K

So what are you waiting for then?
You raised it.

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Heh - what is this? You guys vying to see who is the victim here?

You'all making my mod duties difficult

Sorry Paul.

I'll refrain from responding any longer to him, as he has a long history of derailing topics. The thread shouldn't suffer because of him.

That is a much better attempt than you have done for a while.
Still a b-, but getting better.

[K626]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by K626 (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Aha, that is what you meant.
Ok, yeah, I know about that stuff.
Raiders of the Lost Ark is partially based on the various expeditions.

Got away with not explaing the bridge.

K

So what are you waiting for then?
You raised it.

It's above your paygrade rasta.

Kstein

[Some Bloke]

Interesting thread, heres a facinating site on the Vril /Thule/ alderbaran topic
http://black.greyfalcon.us/

[thunder24]

Lord Sid and Onyxknight,

I appreciate both of your insights here on Avalon. Why can't we just post and not direct it at any one. if one has an opposeing view then state it and vice versa. You don't have to respond at anyone. Don't become keyboard warriors, please and thankyou. Both of you intrigue me so I thankyou for that.
peace

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
Lord Sid and Onyxknight,

I appreciate both of your insights here on Avalon. Why can't we just post and not direct it at any one. if one has an opposeing view then state it and vice versa. You don't have to respond at anyone. Don't become keyboard warriors, please and thankyou. Both of you intrigue me so I thankyou for that.
peace

Go back and review his posts, lots of them are trolling and could be seen to be breaking the rules.
I have reported his posts on occasions and nothing is done.
So here we are, either he is controlled and we both post on the forum, or they pick him or me.
I am not playing games with him anymore.

[Andrew]

Posted by K626 (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by K626 (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Aha, that is what you meant.
Ok, yeah, I know about that stuff.
Raiders of the Lost Ark is partially based on the various expeditions.

Got away with not explaing the bridge.

K

So what are you waiting for then?
You raised it.

It's above your paygrade rasta.

Kstein

What bridge? bridge to where?

lol inner earth?

[Lord Sidious]

He probably means the bridge between the surface and the hidden cities.

[majapahit]

if I may bud into this discussion (I'm only glancing these posts)

may I remind readers that in the heyday of 'northern european' academics
the european - based - universities were spreading 'classicism'

the Superior people were considered the Romans, i.c. the 'Latin' breed, the harbingers of
classic History, Academics, Law & Politics
(the Romans themselves thought, by the way, the Greek to be their superior Philosopher)

a topic headed "Has white man colonised planet Earth?"

is a post WW2 notion in the realm of the 'multitudes'
and a - arbitrary - post Bismarck notion for the better versed

and have a wild guess why that is
(& I find these notions rather unhealthy, and do not have a place on Avalon.

May I point to the "The Anglo-Saxon Mission" publication, rather in-your-face and page 1 of this Forum

& People should better understand what such a 'mission' means, in all its degeneracy)

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by majapahit (here)
if I may bud into this discussion (I'm only glancing these posts)

may I remind readers that in the heyday of 'northern european' academics
the european - based - universities were spreading 'classicism'

the Superior people were considered the Romans, i.c. the 'Latin' breed, the harbingers of
classic History, Academics, Law & Politics
(the Romans themselves thought, by the way, the Greek to be their superior Philosopher)

a topic headed "Has white man colonised planet Earth?"

is a post WW2 notion

and have a wild guess why that is
(& I find these notions rather unhealthy)

You think the latin speaking groups aren't white?
This isn't about which group is better or whatever, it is about an idea that the threadstarter had.
Why is it that some of you want to shut this down?
So much for being able to debate.

[majapahit]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by majapahit (here)
if I may bud into this discussion (I'm only glancing these posts)

may I remind readers that in the heyday of 'northern european' academics
the european - based - universities were spreading 'classicism'

the Superior people were considered the Romans, i.c. the 'Latin' breed, the harbingers of
classic History, Academics, Law & Politics
(the Romans themselves thought, by the way, the Greek to be their superior Philosopher)

a topic headed "Has white man colonised planet Earth?"

is a post WW2 notion

and have a wild guess why that is
(& I find these notions rather unhealthy)

You think the latin speaking groups aren't white?

that Latin speakers would be considered 'white'
also is (for the media masses)

a post "WW2" notion

the original white nazi thought a 'one breed EU' a swell idea

only, you should be aware of what german nazi's (then and now)
really think of the 'inferior Latins'

- and I've heard this live on German Television, I can understand German

This isn't about which group is better or whatever, it is about an idea that the threadstarter had.
Why is it that some of you want to shut this down?
So much for being able to debate.

I consider these notions
how "The Anglo-Saxon Mission" really really f(^$#@d up peoples brains
how successfull

read history
pre-WW2
pre-Napoleon
the NWO bought & paid the universities, you will agree on that, I suppose

[Lord Sidious]

Well thanks for continuing the thread going offtopic.
Obviously the topic is so offensive it needs to be shut down.
Did you ever think (?) that the white men he referred to weren't from earth?
Or did you just sniff some racism in the water and decide to wade in?
And those ''nazis'' you speak of?
You know nothing of them, you only think you do.
What ethnicity was Rudolf Hess's mother?

[majapahit]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Well thanks for continuing the thread going offtopic.
Obviously the topic is so offensive it needs to be shut down.
Did you ever think (?) that the white men he referred to weren't from earth?

everybody is
ask charles

Or did you just sniff some racism in the water and decide to wade in?

I sniff ignorence
therefore I enlighten

And those ''nazis'' you speak of?
You know nothing of them, you only think you do.

oh, but I do

What ethnicity was Rudolf Hess's mother?

to the thoroughly confused
my bet is she is to be considered Celtic
(Etruscan? Scithian? not Macedonian, that would be bloody awful, wouldnt it)
in the way the Windsors think they are 'the lost tribe'

all nonsense of course

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by majapahit (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Well thanks for continuing the thread going offtopic.
Obviously the topic is so offensive it needs to be shut down.
Did you ever think (?) that the white men he referred to weren't from earth?

everybody is
ask charles

Or did you just sniff some racism in the water and decide to wade in?

I sniff ignorence
therefore I enlighten

Sure you do.
You enlighten us by speaking down to us and making reference to something unrelated other than skin colour?
Funny, I thought you were against ignorance?

[majapahit]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by majapahit (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Well thanks for continuing the thread going offtopic.
Obviously the topic is so offensive it needs to be shut down.
Did you ever think (?) that the white men he referred to weren't from earth?

everybody is
ask charles

Or did you just sniff some racism in the water and decide to wade in?

I sniff ignorence
therefore I enlighten

Sure you do.
You enlighten us by speaking down to us and making reference to something unrelated other than skin colour?

you are referring to the color of blood or braincells here?

oh, this will be my last post on this subject

Funny, I thought you were against ignorance?

[Andrew]

The theory an advanced people evacuating here from another planet (or got stuck here), now trying to get home or more likely setting up camp, while preparing earth for this massive change, is a wild theory but wow its good. Using this theory seems to answer a lot of questions.