Has white man colonised planet Earth?

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
We have a lot of info on here already.
Stuff about the swastika and it's origins and why the NSDAP flag is the colours it is.Check it out, you will probably be shocked.

http://flagspot.net/flags/de%7Dnsdap.html#int

A red flag, in the center the golden Party Membership Insignia (Goldenes Ehrenzeichen) which consists of a black swastika in a white circular disk surrounded by a dark red ring with the inscription "National-Sozialistische D.A.P." in white, surrounded by a gold wreath. Ratio 6:7. Surrounded by a gold fringe (except at hoist).
Norman Martin, Feb 1998

Shade of Red in the Swastika Flag
Norman Martin mentioned an interesting colour classification [Gau: bright red (Hellrot) with dark red (Dunkelrot) border]. According to it, what was the colour of the main field of Nazi flags - bright red or dark red?
António Martins, 10 Jun 2000
Certainly not dark red. The text of the Organisationsbuch distinguishes red, bright red and dark red. Dark red is clearly darker. Bright red and red are not far apart, but bright red seems a bit yellower to me. In any event the Organisationsbuch calls the color of the main field simply red.
Norman Martin, 11 Jun 2000

*** adding more from LS in another thread ***

Think about this, if you have that swastika/hakenkreuz/kolovrat/fylfot as a real object or flag, then from one side it is one way, the other side it is the other, no?
There was a piece of anglo-saxon treasure found at Sutton Hoo that is EXACTLY like the NSDAP one, same angle even in a circle, I am trying to find a pic now, but for obvious reasons, they don't show that so much.

*** adding more from the nugget trail ***

Origins of the Swastika Flag

Excerpted from Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler, 1923:

The organization of our monitor troop clarified a very important question. Up till then the movement had no party insignia and no party flag. The absence of such symbols not only had momentary disadvantages, but was intolerable for the future (...) party comrades lacked any outward sign of their common bond (...) [Hitler then writes about how he attended a mass Marxist demonstration:] a sea of red flags, red scarves, and red flowers (...)

I have, in our movement, always upheld the standpoint that it is a true good fortune for the German nation to have lost the old flag (...) from the bottom of our hearts we should thank Fate for having been gracious enough to preserve the most glorious war flag of all time from being used as a bedsheet for the most shameful prostitution. The present-day Reich, which sells itself and its citizens, must never be permitted to fly the black, white and red flag of honour and heroes...

The question of the new flag —that is, its appearance— occupied us intensely in those days. From all sides came suggestions (...) the new flag had to be equally a symbol of our own struggle, since on the other hand it was expected also to be highly effective as a poster (...) an effective insignia can in hundreds of thousands of cases give the first impetus towards interest in a movement. For this reason we had to reject all suggestions of identifying our movement through a white flag with the old state (...) white is not a stirring colour. It is suitable for chaste virgins' clubs, but not for world-changing movements in a revolutionary epoch. [other assessments of various colours also]

I myself always came out for the retention of the old colours, not only because as a soldier they are to me the holiest thing I know (...) nevertheless, I was obliged to reject without exception the numerous designs which poured in (...) which for the most part had drawn the swastika into the old flag.

I myself, meanwhile, after innumerable attempts, had laid down a final form; a flag with a red background, a white disk, and a black swastika in the middle. After long trials I also found a definite proportion between the size of the flag and the size of the white disk, as well as the shape and thickness of the swastika.

And this remained final.

I have cut out a lot, but this whole passage makes interesting reading. It is pages 492-497 of the Houghton Mifflin edition, translated by Ralph Mannheim, 1971. I haven't seen the passage in Mein Kampf, but William Shirer in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich says the following:
He [Hitler] says that numerous designs suggested to him by party members invariably included a swastika and that a "dentist from Sternberg" actually delivered a design for a flag that "was not bad at all and quite close to my own."

David Cohen, 12 May 1998

According to John Toland's Adolf Hitler, the flag submitted by the "dentist from Starnberg" was "a swastika against a black-white-red background". He also writes that "Hitler insisted upon a party flag that could compete with the flaming red Communist banner". "We wanted something red enough to out-Herod Herod", recalled Drexler, something to outdo the Reds but "quite different." Anton Drexler was one of the founders and the original leader of the German Workers' Party, which became, after Hitler joined, the National Socialist German Workers' Party, or Nazi Party for short.

Devereaux Cannon, 12 May 1998

England 1997 [eng97] deals with the subject in depth and says:

(...) what inspired Hitler to use the swastika as a symbol for the NSDAP was its use by the Thule-Gesellschaft [organization] since there were many connections between them and the DAP (...) from 1919 until the summer of 1921 Hitler used the special Nationalsozialistische library of Dr. Friedich Krohn, a very active member of the Thule-Gesellschaft, (...) Dr. Krohn was also the dentist from Sternberg who was named by Hitler in Mein Kampf as the designer of a flag very similar to one that Hitler designed in 1920 (...) during the summer of 1920, the first party flag was shown at Lake Tegernsee (...) these home-made (...) early flags were not preserved, the Ortsgruppe München flag was generally regarded as the first flag of the Party.
Most of these early relic NSDAP flags, including the flag of the 5th Munich SA Company of the 1923 Putsch, which became the famous Blood Flag in 1925, were eventually lost during the Allied bombings of World War Two. Of the four original NSDAP Deutschland Erwache standards only one still exists today.

Ben K. Weed, 17 November 1996


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Origins of the Colours

After the North German League in 1867 (and after 1871, the new German Empire) was formed, the Prussian government's dislike for the black-red-gold flag resulted in the adoption of a new black-white-red tricolor. Affter the German defeat in World War One, the new republic adopted the black-red-gold tricolor earlier used in 1848 — and now again the German flag. As a result, the right wing parties urged the readoption of the black-white-red. The colors of the Nazi flag was thus a form of right wing allegiance and signified opposition to democracy. The original (1867) meaning was apparently a merger of the Prussian black-white and the red and white colors common among German maritime states (allegedly inspired by the medieval Hanseatic League).

Norman Martin, 2 June 2000


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Swastika Symbolism

The [above] historical information about the development of the swastika does not explicitly state why a swastika in the first place. Smith 1975 notes that it was a symbol of the Aryan peoples (among many others) in much earlier days, possibly a sun symbol, and he obliquely implied a link between that and Hitler's ideals of an Aryan race.

Rob Raeside, 6 January 2001

The swastika was earlier used as a sign for power, and thus often used on maps to indicate where you could find a power plant or such things. The Swedish company ASEA —now the "A" in the Swedish-Swiss company ABB— used a swastika in its logo until the beginning of the 1930's, when this symbol got a more political meaning. In Swedish, a swastika is called hakkors or hook cross, so at least here it is considered a form of a cross. The hooks are of course formed by the cross arms that are set in angles. Swastikas were used in the air force signs of Finland and of Latvia from their independence following World War One and until the 1940's. The use of swastikas by the Finnish in their war of 1941-1944 against the Soviet Union, had therefore nothing to do with their alliance with Germany at the time.

Elias Granqvist, 7 January 2001

A swastika is a symbol of multiple meanings. It can be found almost all over the world "except to certain areas of Central Africa and Southern Mesopotamia", according to Symbollex, the Norwegian edition of J.C. Cooper, An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Traditional Symbols, Thames and Hudson Ltd., London, 1978, 1982, 1990. Swastikas have been used in the Indus Valley, in Greece, Cyprus, Iceland, by the Lapps, in Ireland, Scotland, and England. The symbol arrived in Egypt about 2500 years ago.

There seems to be agreement that the swastika is a symbol of the sun. It might have been a symbol of the most influential Arian Gods (Zeus, Jupiter). There are lots of possible explanations: It might be a symbol of the stars revolving around the North Pole, the four seasons, it might be a symbol of a human being (two arms + two legs), also something like the yin and yang symbol (masculine and feminine, movement and rest etc.). Some theories say that it might be a symbol of a maze, lightning, water in motion etc. Among some Asian muslims, the swastika is a symbol for north/south/east/west and the four seasons, for some Chinese it is a "a collection of happy symbols, including thousands of good effects". Today not everyone would agree with this understanding of the symbol.

Helge Jacobsen, 7 January 2001


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Left-handed Swastika Legend

One version of the origin of the Nazi flag is given by Francis King, Satan and Swastika: The Occult and the Nazi Party, Mayflower Books, 1976. On p. 117 it is stated that in early 1920 various designs for National Socialist flags were submitted to Hitler:

The one finally adopted (...) was designed by Dr. Friedrich Krohn, a dentist from Sternberg (...). Krohn's design, the swastika on a white disk against a red background, was intended to symbolize the ideology of the movement — in red its social ideal, in white its nationalism, and in the swastika "the struggle for the victory of Aryan man". But Krohn's flag featured a right-handed swastika, traditional symbol of good fortune, spiritual evalution and the triumph of spirit over matter. Hitler insisted on it being replaced by the left-handed swastika, regarded by occultists as the equivalent of a reversed crucifix, an evocation of evil, spiritual devolution and black magic!
King is a well reputed author on the history of modern occult organizations. In this instance, however, he does not give sources. In J.H. Brennan The Occult Reich, Signet, 1974, the same basic story regarding Krohn's participation is related (p. 86); Brennan also quotes from Mein Kampf where Hitler wrote:
A symbol it really is! In red we see the social ideal of the movement, in white the nationalist idea, in the swastika is the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man.

Peter Cawley, s.d.

Although this claim occurs quite regularly, there is in fact very little evidence for it (which probably accounts for the lack of sources). In fact, the swastika, including the so-called left-handed version, is an ancient sun-wheel symbol used by peoples across the world, ranging from the American Indians to the Tibetans. They would hardly be likely to use the left-handed swastika if it was associated with evil. Similarly, the left-handed swastika appeared on the pre-war national symbols of Latvia and Finland, before there was any association with Nazism. The Isle of Man flag is also a variation on this theme. I suspect that the story about the left-handed swastika, like the allegation of Hitler's illegitimacy, was simply Allied wartime propaganda.

Stuart Notholt


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Order of the New Templars 1907




by José Manuel Erbez

The first time the swastika was used with an 'Aryan' meaning was on 25 December 1907, when the self-named Order of the New Templars, a secret society founded by Lanz von Liebenfels, hoisted at Werfenstein Castle (Austria) a yellow flag with a swastika and four fleurs-de-lys.

José Manuel Erbez, 21 January 2001


*** adding from str8thinker ***

Thus the swastika, thought to be the exclusively Aryan symbol of sun-worship misappropriated by the Nazis, and found depicted on many of the clay pots unearthed in Arkaim, is an older religious and metaphysical symbol than that attached to the Aryan Sun God, its roots lying in totemic shamanism. René Guénon, the eminent French esotericist, points out that the swastika, symbolising eternal motion around a motionless centre, is a polar rather than a solar symbol, and as such was a symbol central to the Pole star cult, originally dedicated to a planetary deity connected to Ursa Major, the Great Bear. This centre, Guénon stresses, “constitutes the fixed point known symbolically to all traditions as the ‘pole’ or axis around which the world rotates…” The swastika is therefore known world-wide as the ‘sign of the pole.’

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...light=swastika

[Lord Sidious]

It isn't the 25 points.
I will give you another hint.

[Calz]

Another from str8thinker (after a nugget from m'lord):

m'lord:

I think you will find the term in Russian you want is kolovrat.

And this is an excellent post, this is where the aryans introduced the first of their hybrids that ended up in Europe.

I will ask Jorr to bring the info he has on the Norse coming from elsewhere with their gods showing them the way.

(note: "where" in reference to Arkaim)

Posted by str8thinker (here)
Thanks your Lordship, that fits it exactly! Funny that none of my references above used this word.

Kolovrat or kolowrat (also Colovrat, sometimes anglicized as Collowrath) means spinning wheel in a number of Slavic languages (contemporary or archaic meaning): "kolo" means "wheel", "vrat" is the stem for "turning/spinning/etc." It may also be an archaic form of the East Slavic word kolovorot for "brace". Kolo symbolizes the Sun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolovrat

As we saw above, some believe the kolovrat originally symbolized the Pole star (maybe even a spiral galaxy!). This is obviously very much a moot point.

Why then is there a Mt. Kolovrat in the Solomon Islands, of all places? Find out here.

Note that this kolovrat has six, not four feet, and they are "walking" clockwise (same direction as Nazi swastika), yet I've seen some web pages claiming direction (clockwise or anticlockwise) may be important to distinguish between them, also others who claim that the traditional kolovrat as seen on some Slavic houses was more like a spinning wheel (or chariot wheel).

Flag of Slavic Unity - feet "walk" anticlockwise


Old photo of Slavic house decoration

Wonder if anyone can put this straight?

[Lord Sidious]

Go with my last hint for now.

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
It isn't the 25 points.
I will give you another hint.

I was hoping to get some help from my fellow nuggets.

I am at work and thus behind a firewall blocking many sites and all videos so it is hard to do research here.

At home I have a whole book on the great seal (if I can find it when I get there anyway).

I will throw out some basics from what I *can* reach and hopefully a few others can join in and help get the ball rollin' again.



From:

http://goddrinksbeer.com/2011/02/13/...llar-bill.aspx



Freemasonry and the Great Seal on the Dollar Bill

The pyramid side is sometimes called the spiritual side of the seal. The pyramid design was chosen as a symbol of duration, a nearly eternal nation and of the West's ancient heritage, much of which has its roots in Ancient Egypt. It is important to note that people during the Enlightenment Era marking the democratization of the West were heavily involved in speculation upon ancient symbols and histories. This is also the era that birthed the remarkable discipline of archaeology.


The Eye of Providence sits at the pyramids zenith. Historically the All-seeing-Eye motif has been used by countless civilizations on all continents but interested parties who promote the Masonic Dollar theory like to point out that a very similar motif is in fact used by Freemasons today. This is true however; those who promote this theory often fail to recognize that during the Enlightenment the eye motif was used repeatedly by many different artists and organizations unassociated with Freemasonry. It is also often overlooked that the Eye motif had been an element of the design on the Great Seal since the seal was first proposed on August 20th, 1776 and finally adopted by Congress on June 20th 1782. Freemasons did not begin using the all-seeing-eye emblem until 1797 in "The Freemasons Monitor of Thomas Smith Webb" fifteen years after the Great Seal was finalized. In fact it is more likely that Freemasons adopted the motif from the Great Seal rather than the other way around.


The Latin phrase "Annuit Coeptus" means "He has favored our undertakings," which refers to the founding belief that the success of the American revolution was a matter of divine Providence as can be found written in the Declaration of Independence. The next phrase is another point that conspiracy enthusiast enjoy kicking around like a rusty old tin can, telling themselves it's actually a football.


"Novus Ordo Seclorum" does not mean "New World Order" as so often incorrectly translated. It means "New Order of the Ages." It refers to the Founders recognition that they were creating a new order in a new era. They recognized that they had begun an age of reason, logic, and spiritual and practical liberty from dogmatic institutions. The new order was liberty, democracy and republicanism in opposition to the old order of submission to monarchical regimes.

[Calz]

Tidbit from Jordan Maxwell:

The eye in the triangle symbol does not represent what many Christians and conspiracy researchers think it does. Before condemning it, research it

[Calz]

From str8thinker in another thread (snip to show dollar great seal portion only):

Posted by str8thinker (here)

Volume 3 - Eye Of The Phoenix

(Google Video)
“Eye of the Phoenix” documents the bizarre history of the design of the dollar bill, exposing the occult activity surrounding the FDR administration. There is perhaps no other period in U.S. history when so many people were so deeply involved in the occult, and held positions of power that reached all the way to the White House. Phoenix focuses specifically on the years prior to World War II leading up to 1935, when the Great Seal was taken out of obscurity and placed on the foundation of America's currency. According to official records from the State Department, FDR and his Secretary of Agriculture, Henry Wallace, specifically chose to use the Great Seal because, as Freemasons, they believed the “Novus Ordo Seclorum” (which they equated with the New Deal) could only be fulfilled under “the eye” of the Great Architect of the Universe (the god of Masonry). Two heavily influential occultists during the FDR era were Manly P. Hall and a Russian mystic named Nicholas Roerich.

Manly Hall's writings influenced Freemasonic presidents FDR and Harry S. Truman. It is even said that Hall was responsible for the number of stones on the pyramid of the Great Seal, and for the identification of the eagle as a phoenix. Meanwhile, Nicholas Roerich was an international figure and Theosophist. His quest for Shambhala and the Stone of Destiny (symbols of the New World Order) captivated Henry Wallace. According to a variety of sources, it was Roerich's influence over Wallace (and ultimately FDR) that led to the placement of the Great Seal on America's currency. As American Heritage writes: “The State Department grew very nervous about Roerich, but he had influence in the Oval Office.” Some Christian leaders continue to downplay the occult nature of the dollar bill; but once you understand the beliefs and influence of Roerich, Wallace and Manly Hall, you will clearly recognize the Luciferian nature of its design.

Also discussed in this documentary are: the Bohemian Grove, the Illuminati past and present, Theosophical Society, Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya (i.e. Antichrist); along with a prediction for how the dollar will be used to establish the New World Order.

(cuttingedge.org)
This high quality documentary proves the following points about the two Seals on the back of the One Dollar Bill with clarity and precision: 1) The two Seals are Egyptian and Luciferian 2) The two Seals were introduced by Freemasons, in 1782 3) Masonic President Franklin Roosevelt, aided by his Secretary of Agriculture/Vice President Wallace, ordered these Seals to be placed on the back of the Dollar Bill in 1935, having been urged on and advised by the Russian channeler/mystic, Nicolas Roerach. 4) Americans had no idea that the Roosevelt Administration was as controlled by mystic, Black Magick forces, as it was. Had they known the degree to which Roosevelt was controlled by Black Magick forces, he would have been forced out of office immediately. 5) Former Satanist, Doc Marquis, reveals that, while in the Illuminati, he was taught that the two Seals are NOT official seals of the United States, but of the Global Illuminati! 6) Doc Marquis also reveals that these two Seals hide three (3) hexagrams plus a hidden message about Freemasonry. These hexagrams form a '666' 7) We correctly link the symbolism of the All- Seeing Eye of Lucifer hovering over the unfinished pyramid on the back of the Dollar Bill to the coming prophesied Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem! The Masons have been steadfastly determined since 1782 to seize control of the Temple Mount so they could resurrect Solomon's Temple for use by their Masonic Christ!

Since this was the plan in 1782 when the Seals were created, the Masons made sure that the symbolism of the unfinished pyramid directly tied into their plan to rebuild Solomon's Temple. When the Masonic Christ (Antichrist) is planned to be the "Living Stone" to top off the unfinished pyramid!

You will be amazed at this simple, but profound, symbolism linkeage and by the thorough degree to which this plan fulfills Bible prophecy exactly! You will be shocked to realize that the stage for the fulfillment of this End of the Age prophecy was set all the way back to 1782!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5475768478934201793# 2:51:38

[Calz]

The Masonic Dollar Bill Talisman

In 1933, 33rd degree Freemason Franklin D. Roosevelt added the Great Seal to the US Dollar, transforming it into an occult Talisman. The same year he signed a Gold confiscation order and took the US off the gold standard. At a press conference on March 8th, 1933, he joked, “As long as nobody asks me whether we are off the gold standard … that is alright, because nobody knows what the … gold standard really is.”

“The 33rd degree Freemason and Black Nobility president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, had this symbol printed on the dollar bill from 1933. It was a symbol of secret societies in Europe long before anyone heard of the United States and it is awash with Freemasonic and secret society symbolism going back to the ancient world.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” 353




Notice the symbology and numerology used on the dollar bill. The most obvious symbol is the Illuminati pyramid with the hovering all-seeing eye in the capstone. Opposite this is the “all-American” Eagle with a down-turned US flag affront its chest. These and many other symbols on the dollar come from the ancient Stellar, Solar, and Lunar cults.

“The Pyramid is for the Stellar Cult, as are the various stars that appear on the bill. The Golden Eagle is for the Solar Cult. The Eagle is the symbol of America because it signifies the constellation in Scorpio called Aquila. Scorpio is the sign of power, money and wealth, as well as secret knowledge. (The U.S. elections are held right n the middle of Scorpio and the birthday of America is in the Scorpionic decanate of Cancer.) The color green also relates to the Solar Cult. The number thirteen, which appears frequently on the dollar bill stands for the Lunar Cult. There are thirteen months in the Lunar Year. (America originally had thirteen States. London is made up of 28 boroughs, this being the number of the Lunar ‘mansions.’) Thirteen is also a Stellar Cult numeral, much used by the Israelites and other Semitic tribes and nations. Then there are the watermarks, or ‘moon letters,’ for the Lunar Cults.” -Michael Tsarion, “Astrotheology and Sidereal Mythology”




The double-headed eagle symbol which came from Babylon and survived through the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry has been today adopted by America, Mexico, Israel, Germany, France, Chile, Italy, Honduras and many others.

“The eagle is a widely used Brotherhood symbol and it can be found on the coats of arms of many countries, including Egypt, Libya and Iraq. It was a major symbol for the Nazis in Germany and it appears in the designs of pulpits and lecterns used by the Christian Church. Seals like the one used in the Great Seal of the United States can be traced back to at least 4,000 BC in Egypt, Babylon, Assyria and India.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (353)



The word “mon-ey” comes from the Lunar cults. Early words for the Moon were “mon” and “min” giving us “mon-ey” printed at a “min-t.” We have a global “mon-archy” that controls the world’s “mon-ey” supply. We have finance “min-isters,” prime “min-isters” and their “min-istries” being controlled by occult elites/societies. “Mon-ks” perform “mon-thly cere-mon-ies” in “mon-asteries.” It is interesting to note that the plant “mint” is green, our “mon-ey” printed at the “min-t” is green, and the Isis moon goddess Statue of Liberty is green. Someone who is ignorant is green. Moon-lovers are “luna-tics,” from the French; They are “mon-sters.” You can see how the elite esoterically worship the moon continuing the Lunar cult, while exoterically condemning and marginalizing it.

“You will see beneath the pyramid seventeen seventy-six, spelled out in Roman Numerals, plus the words, Annuit Coeptis, and is translated as Annuit, our enterprise. Coeptis is translated to mean ‘crowned with success,’ or ‘is crowned with success,’ therefore, Annuit Coeptis is ‘our enterprise, which is now a success.’ Then in order to find out what enterprise was a success, read on the one dollar bill at the bottom of the pyramid, Novus Ordo Seclorum. Which translates as the ‘New Order of the World’ - The New World Order! Now, we must remember that Germany was the home of the concept of The New World Order. Adolph Hitler's entire motivation was to establish a new world order." -Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”




The Latin translation of Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Seclorum is “Our New World Order is Crowned with Success.” The other Latin phrase E Pluribus Unim means “One Out of Many.” Order out of Chaos. The Hegelian dialectic. The problem-reaction-solution paradigm used by the elites to drive world events, opinions and policies. There are 13 letters in Annuit Coeptis and 13 letters in E Pluribus Unim. The dollar encodes the number 13 repeatedly. There are 13 stars above the eagles head, 13 steps on the Pyramid, 13 vertical bars on the shield, 13 horizontal stripes at the top of the shield, 13 leaves on the olive branch, 13 arrows, 13 fruits, and 13 numbers.

“You will find on the dollar bill, the eagle, which comes from the ancient concept of the Phoenix, and has thirteen stars above it. The thirteen stars are arranged in the configuration of the Star of David, or the hexagram. Most people think the thirteen stars represent the original thirteen colonies. In the first place, why did they have to have thirteen colonies? Why couldn't they have twenty-seven, or four, or ten? When one understands that the number thirteen is a very important, profound Masonic number, and that many of the founding fathers of this country were Freemasons, as well as Rosicrucians, then you will follow this connecting thread of material to see what was actually being created. They knew what they were doing when they divided this country into thirteen colonies. The number thirteen is not an unlucky number for them. It is an unlucky number for you.” -Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”

If you draw a six-sided “Star of David” around the pyramid on the back of the dollar, 5 of the 6 corners will point to letters: A,S,M,O,N or when you re-arrange them, MASON.


http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2...-talisman.html

[sirac]

I've read the base question, and 1st page, so i don't know what the post has become.
but from the 1st page it seems everyone assumes we come from Aldebaren.
RUBBISH.
According to Billy Meier and Alex Collier, we come from Lyra, and this 'base human specie' populated outward occupying other star systems such as the Pleiedes etc.

{how do we account for the 3 population groups of white, asian, black...}
{Dave Wilcock posits that blacks are truely from this planet,...his theory majoris that a wavelength frequency specifies thoughtout galaxies whether human species will 'grow' there, & amongst what-not human races, even a green race with female ambassadors, that blacks aren't found anywhere else}
{Billy Meier posits an originating 'system' for Asians...saying overpopulation at that point 'forced' them to spread....& now they here representing half-the-global-human-consciousness on earth}
{what can be said of whites.....i'll think later....but this Aldebaren thing hinges right on the supremacy point first exploited by Hitler}
[i have white and asian blood, and i live amongst blacks.....for this plain, i am all]

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by sirac (here)
I've read the base question, and 1st page, so i don't know what the post has become.
but from the 1st page it seems everyone assumes we come from Aldebaren.
RUBBISH.
According to Billy Meier and Alex Collier, we come from Lyra, and this 'base human specie' populated outward occupying other star systems such as the Pleiedes etc.

{how do we account for the 3 population groups of white, asian, black...}
{Dave Wilcock posits that blacks are truely from this planet,...his theory majoris that a wavelength frequency specifies thoughtout galaxies whether human species will 'grow' there, & amongst what-not human races, even a green race with female ambassadors, that blacks aren't found anywhere else}
{Billy Meier posits an originating 'system' for Asians...saying overpopulation at that point 'forced' them to spread....& now they here representing half-the-global-human-consciousness on earth}
{what can be said of whites.....i'll think later....but this Aldebaren thing hinges right on the supremacy point first exploited by Hitler}
[i have white and asian blood, and i live amongst blacks.....for this plain, i am all]

Right, so because x says it is so, it is?
If you read other posts, you will find I have already said the different ''races'' come from different progenitors.
I think that Wilcock is correct with that quote you give us.
And no, this doesn't ''hinge'' at all with Hitler, he comes a long way down the story line.

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Excellent video and backs up some of the things I was already sharing with you.
Pity the guy mispronounces so many things, but good none the less.
The last part about the rockefeller foundation should set off some alarm bells for you.
Hint, hint.

I reviewed the vid again and regarding rocky at the end it mentions the 139k and standard oil.

Posted by LeoNorth (here)

Posted by 222317
The last part about the rockefeller' foundation should set off some alarm bells for you.Hint, hint.

The rockefeller's are general ne'er-do-wells, but what should we take away from the last part?

Are we trying to say that the rockefeller's have the 'ark'??
or
is in league with enlil/stranded aryan/annunaki??
or
that the rockefeller's are not human??

An interesting question, however, is why would the rockefeller's spend so much money covering up esoteric angle to the WW2. The only reason i can think of, is that they are in possession of a 'mythical/mystical/magic' artifact previously owned by the nazi party. Which leads me back to 'ark' and the economic prosperity that followed USA after WW2. Or, maybe, they don't want anyone else communicating or knowing about other alien species. Which would mean that the alien coverup is at the direction of rockefeller.
Oh, look at what committees the great grandson of John D Rockefeller is on;

Rockefeller serves on the following committees in the 111th Congress:

Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation (Chairman)

Committee on Finance
Subcommittee on Health Care (Chairman)
Subcommittee on International Trade, Customs, and Global Competitiveness
Subcommittee on Social Security, Pensions, and Family Policy

Select Committee on Intelligence
Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Joint Committee on Taxation

It should be noted that Senate Select Committee on Intelligence appropriates funds for the black budget.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
They have a reason they don't want anyone researching the NSDAP and what it was about.
The question is, what is that reason?

"They" being a reference to Rockefeller Foundation?

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Nope, you are still missing it, even though you all have it in this thread.

2 steps forward ... 1 step back.

Before continuing on into the great seal "eye on top of the pyramid" hint can I request clarification on who "they" are in reference to my attempt here at retracing the nugget trail?

[Andrew]

5 pointed star? another symbol for the sun?

[Lord Sidious]

Focus on the eye.

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Nope, you are still missing it, even though you all have it in this thread.

Posted by Andrew (here)
5 pointed star? another symbol for the sun?

I ran over 5 images on post #148 ... here is the last one:

If you draw a six-sided “Star of David” around the pyramid on the back of the dollar, 5 of the 6 corners will point to letters: A,S,M,O,N or when you re-arrange them, MASON.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2...-talisman.html

[Lord Sidious]

What is the eye?
Just be aware that when we get to the end of this particular track, you will be shocked.
And I can guarantee this, it is not on the net, nor would you have ever heard this before.
This will change your perceptions of the world.
So be serious with this, I am going to show you a very interesting piece of the pie.

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Focus on the eye.

The Eye of Providence (or the all-seeing eye of God) is a symbol showing an eye often surrounded by rays of light or a glory and usually enclosed by a triangle. It is sometimes interpreted as representing the eye of God watching over humankind (or divine providence). [1][2][3]

In the modern era, the most notable depiction of the eye is the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, which appears on the United States one-dollar bill.

Imagery of an all-seeing eye can be traced back to Egyptian mythology and the Eye of Horus. It also appears in Buddhism, where Buddha is also regularly referred to as the "Eye of the World" throughout Buddhist scriptures (e.g. Mahaparinibbana Sutta) and is represented as a trinity in the shape of a triangle known as the Tiratna, or Triple Gem.

In Medieval and Renaissance European iconography, the Eye (often with the addition of an enclosing triangle) was an explicit image of the Christian Trinity. Seventeenth-century depictions of the Eye of Providence sometimes show it surrounded by clouds or sun bursts.


In 1782, the Eye of Providence was adopted as part of the symbolism on the reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States. It was first suggested as an element of the Great Seal by the first of three design committees in 1776 and is thought to be the suggestion of the artistic consultant, Pierre Eugene du Simitiere.[4]

On the seal, the Eye is surrounded by the words Annuit Cœptis, meaning "He approves (or has approved) [our] undertakings", and Novus Ordo Seclorum, meaning "New Order of the Ages". The Eye is positioned above an unfinished pyramid with thirteen steps, representing the original thirteen states and the future growth of the country. The lowest level of the pyramid shows the year 1776 in Roman numerals. The combined implication is that the Eye, or God, favors the prosperity of the United States.

Perhaps due to its use in the design of the Great Seal, the Eye has made its way into other American seals and logos, notably the Seal of Colorado and DARPA's Information Awareness Office.

Today, the Eye of Providence is usually associated with Freemasonry. The Eye first appeared as part of the standard iconography of the Freemasons in 1797, with the publication of Thomas Smith Webb's Freemasons Monitor.[5] Here, it represents the all-seeing eye of God and is a reminder that a Mason's thoughts and deeds are always observed by God (who is referred to in Masonry as the Great Architect of the Universe). Typically, the Masonic Eye of Providence has a semi-circular glory below the eye. Sometimes the Eye is enclosed by a triangle.

Popular among conspiracy theorists is the claim that the Eye of Providence shown atop an unfinished pyramid on the Great Seal of the United States indicates the influence of Freemasonry in the founding of the United States. This was dramatized in the 2004 Disney film National Treasure. However, common Masonic use of the Eye dates to 14 years after the creation of the Great Seal. Furthermore, among the members of the various design committees for the Great Seal, only Benjamin Franklin was a Mason (and his ideas for the seal were not adopted). Indeed, many Masonic organizations have explicitly denied any connection to the creation of the Seal.[6][7]




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
What is the eye?
Just be aware that when we get to the end of this particular track, you will be shocked.
And I can guarantee this, it is not on the net, nor would you have ever heard this before.
This will change your perceptions of the world.
So be serious with this, I am going to show you a very interesting piece of the pie.

You *DO* know how to wet the appetite!!!

[Andrew]

Yes the Eye of Horus, but what you getting at?
Also it is said Hitler had one testicle and when Horus fought Set in the war between north and south Eygpt, Set lost a testicle, has this any significance?

"As Horus was the ultimate victor he became known as Harsiesis, Heru-ur or Har-Wer (ḥr.w wr 'Horus the Great'), but more usually translated as Horus the Elder. In the struggle Set had lost a testicle, explaining why the desert, which Set represented, is infertile. Horus' left eye had also been gouged out, which explained why the moon, which it represented, was so weak compared to the sun."

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Andrew (here)
Yes the Eye of Horus, but what you getting at?
Also it is said Hitler had one testicle and when Horus fought Set in the war between north and south Eygpt, Set lost a testicle, has this any significance?

"As Horus was the ultimate victor he became known as Harsiesis, Heru-ur or Har-Wer (ḥr.w wr 'Horus the Great'), but more usually translated as Horus the Elder. In the struggle Set had lost a testicle, explaining why the desert, which Set represented, is infertile. Horus' left eye had also been gouged out, which explained why the moon, which it represented, was so weak compared to the sun."

How do you know it is horus?
And let me give you the next hint.
Why is the capstone seperate from the rest?

[Andrew]

Too represent it as above like in the air/space? and we are below?