Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Operator]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Unless the data from nasa regarding elenin was a complete fabrication (and that is possible ... the lie is different at every level) it is really a slam dunk.

It could be a good alternative possibility, thought about that myself too. If the quakes etc. are man made and the data is fabricated to coincide it could
very well serve to install fear ... so they make sure this data is found !

[Operator]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Do you think that 'Comet Elenin' is the 'event' that Ed Dames has been talking about for more than a decade ?

This is Ed Dames now .... so the video is indeed from quite a while back. He said the event would be preceded (and could be recognized) by a space shuttle
being called back to earth earlier (aborting it's mission). If that it's true then the potential for it to happen is soon.

Currently the last-but-one mission is being executed ...

The very last one is early July ...

[blufire]

You know. . . I just came up from my basement because tornados are hitting everywhere in this area today. I don’t always go to the basement when the sirens go off, I usually look at the radar and then outside to see which way the weather is going. If I went to the basement and batten down the hatches every time the weatherman says to I would never get anything done.

Today was different. There were clear reasons and substantiated fact to get my animals to safety and then myself. It was “mostly” certain that a tornado could hit where I live. In the basement is everything we need during this type of storm and everything we may need if we are actually hit.

I have been on the fence for years about all the planetx, nibiru, 2012, Mayan calendar, global change etc. I have researched, read, pondered, meditated, watched, . . . . . until I have driven myself, family and friends nuts.

I am now without hesitation ready to take action on a clear and well defined threat . . .just like using my common sense and knowledge when to take cover from tornados.

It is my very strong opinion based on all this evidence that is currently coming at us that “something” will “mostly” hit us this fall.

I am taking action . . .full blown . . . without hesitation . . . it is time to batten down the hatches and take stock.

Am I somewhat concerned that I could be making a huge mistake . . .

Do I think that somewhere it the process of coming to this decision that I missed something important that would have changed this decision . . .

Do I have a nagging thought in the back of my head that it is TPTB screwing with us and that I’ve been “had” . . .

BUT, I knew at some point the scales would tip the other way. The way into believing that “this” is real and headed our way and will affect our way of life greatly. The scales for me have now plunked solidly on the other side.

I now have enough factual and scientific information to put my plan into action.

I know there are MANY reading this that feel the same way . . . we need to make our feelings known and act on what we know intuitively is right. We need to lead by example.

Maybe we should start a new thread of those of us who are making this decision. I will try to check Avalon as much as I can the next few days. There will be a point (very soon) when my internet ability will be highly limited.

Something I feel I should add . . . . I am a fairly high profile individual. I own a business that produces in excess of couple million a year. I have enjoyed most of the “fancy” things in life. I know I mostly talk about being an organic farmer and being from the mountains (which all is true) but I think it is important that everyone knows I am making the choice to leave the “fancy” life. I’m leaving it behind. It is meaningless.

To begin a new life with new meaning and beauty and abundance we first have to shed the old way of life, which has kept us trapped and enslaved.

Should we start a different thread?? Is anyone besides me making this choice???[/

[yiolas]

Thanks Operator, Viewing the video again, Ed Dames describes to the letter Elenin's anticipated trajectory through our solar system. He even says that this 'large body' will interject Earth's orbit twice ! Exactly what is being projected that Elenin will do. This matching of scenarios years before it's occurrence is quite extraordinary. Hello..... I think we should follow this story very seriously.

[nearing]

I am convinced too. I would welcome a new thread too.

BUT, the only action I have taken so far is to convince my son to be with me in the fall. I cannot afford yet to stock up on anything but will in summer. I honestly don't think that many will survive in 3D, even TPTW in thier bunkers. I honestly think that if anyone survives it (in 3D) it will only be because they will be lucky enough to be in a place that doesn't experience any devastating Earth changes. Where those places are is anyone's guess.

Even if one does find themselves here on the other side of this, they may not survive the radiation and/or changes in climate.

I really don't WANT to have to fight others for clean water or food, etc. Or die a slow death from radiation or cold/heat.

I am intending to leave the material world with this event and. If I have done it all right, ascend.

[yiolas]

Hi Blufire, thank-you for coming out and saying what is on everyone's minds these days whether they want to admit it or not. Just like you, I think that we have all been researching this topic for a while now. I think that it is time to get off the fence and start preparing. Better safe than sorry. Without getting into fear mode, I believe that it is prudent to make preparations now and have an exit or a protection plan in place.

This is such a large topic with hundreds of personal decisions to make. Should one stay in their geographical location or move ? What would that move entail ? Will your family and love ones follow you if you relocate ? Can one afford to quite their job and seek a safe location? If one stay's put, how can you make your home safe from what is coming down the pike? What about survival gear and supplies ?

[greybeard]

Having looked at most of the videos on this thread and else where, there certainly seems to be a lot of credible research done on the subject.
Certainly seems that there is something large looming which will come between the Sun and Earth this year.
Also the ancient legends seem to confirm a cyclic event.

So we will know all to soon.

Chris

[Rocky_Shorz]

you know it is really sad Mr X isn't here to have seen this thread...

he told all of us it is written...

wasn't it... what you think doesn't matter, we are coming...

estimated 2012

we live in very exciting times don't we...

[nearing]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
you know it is really sad Mr X isn't here to have seen this thread...

he told all of us it is written...

wasn't it... what you think doesn't matter, we are coming...

estimated 2012

we live in very exciting times don't we...

We sure do! It's awesome!

[greybeard]

As a follow on I have not said one word to nearest and dearest for two reason.
(1) No point in scaring them if its not true.
(2) No point in scaring them if its true.

I have often said to friends that we should keep extra food and some money to hand in case of electrical failure that goes down reasonably well.
People accept that there are things happening that makes this advice palatable.

If its true then it would seem that there really is very little we can do,
baring having extra food and moving to higher ground when the signs get stronger.
Thats not defeatist, its being realistic

So thats my thoughts on it.

Chris

[Operator]

From Kerry's blog:

Elenin vs. Brown Dwarf - Andy Lloyd author of "Dark Star" weighs in...

There is a great deal of confusion regarding Elenin vs. the Brown Dwarf. I wrote to him and asked him to clarify:

"...sure, Kerry. I agree with you - people are excited about the hype over the alleged arrival of Planet X, and jumping to conclusions about a simple comet that, itself, is unspectacular. Let me lay out what a multi-Jupiter mass brown dwarf would look like right now if it was as close as is being speculated by many (i.e. that it's actually comet Elenin).

This Dark Star would appear in the night sky as a red/magenta planet about the same size as Jupiter. In other words, it would be one of the brightest objects in the night sky, very probably brighter than Venus. In addition, I believe that it would have a visible aura, or tail, that would be rather spectacular. That fiery aura would extend out from the planet itself by some considerable degree, possibly extending out to the very edge of the Dark Star's very considerable magnetosphere ( which would be about 4 x the moon's diameter across, or more).

The combination of the bright planet, its contingent of large moons, and in particular its fiery aura would produce the 'winged' disk' effect in the sky, like a mighty red celestial dragon.

Now I don't know about you,but when I pop outside at night to look in the direction of Elenin, I'm not seeing this at all. Frankly, that's because Elenin is a comet, and not a very good one at that. It is clearly not an incoming Dark Star/Planet X/Nibiru object.

Hope that helps :0)


Many thanks,

Andy Lloyd /unquote

Author and artist

www.darkstar1.co.uk

www.cheltenham-art.com/andylloyd.htm

www.modelmayhem.com/andylloyd

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

So ... does this make you feel better ?

[nearing]

Posted by Operator (here)

So ... does this make you feel better ?

Lol. I feel pretty good to begin with!

He forgets(?) that this 'comet' has been causing a gravitational/magnetic pull on the earth (earthquakes!) everytime it's mass is added to the Sun's pull on us (alignment).

No comet has the mass to do that.

[blufire]

I am sitting here reading this completely stunned. . . . .

For the past 3 to 5 years I have been having very lucid dreams and they are increasing in frequency and intensity.

Last week I dreamed of a “planet”, “sphere”, “heavenly body”. It looked like this description. I could look to my right and see the moon and then to my left or southwest and see the “sphere”.

The only difference is in my dream the “planet” was somewhat translucent and it “morphed” into two “planets”.

I have goose bumps all over AND this threw me into a raging “hot flash” . . . .thanks Operator

Posted by Operator (here)
From Kerry's blog:

Elenin vs. Brown Dwarf - Andy Lloyd author of "Dark Star" weighs in...

There is a great deal of confusion regarding Elenin vs. the Brown Dwarf. I wrote to him and asked him to clarify:

"...sure, Kerry. I agree with you - people are excited about the hype over the alleged arrival of Planet X, and jumping to conclusions about a simple comet that, itself, is unspectacular. Let me lay out what a multi-Jupiter mass brown dwarf would look like right now if it was as close as is being speculated by many (i.e. that it's actually comet Elenin).

This Dark Star would appear in the night sky as a red/magenta planet about the same size as Jupiter. In other words, it would be one of the brightest objects in the night sky, very probably brighter than Venus. In addition, I believe that it would have a visible aura, or tail, that would be rather spectacular. That fiery aura would extend out from the planet itself by some considerable degree, possibly extending out to the very edge of the Dark Star's very considerable magnetosphere ( which would be about 4 x the moon's diameter across, or more).

The combination of the bright planet, its contingent of large moons, and in particular its fiery aura would produce the 'winged' disk' effect in the sky, like a mighty red celestial dragon.

Now I don't know about you,but when I pop outside at night to look in the direction of Elenin, I'm not seeing this at all. Frankly, that's because Elenin is a comet, and not a very good one at that. It is clearly not an incoming Dark Star/Planet X/Nibiru object.

Hope that helps :0)


Many thanks,

Andy Lloyd /unquote

Author and artist

www.darkstar1.co.uk

www.cheltenham-art.com/andylloyd.htm

www.modelmayhem.com/andylloyd

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

So ... does this make you feel better ?

[Operator]

Posted by nearing (here)

He forgets(?) that this 'comet' has been causing a gravitational/magnetic pull on the earth (earthquakes!) everytime it's mass is added to the Sun's pull on us (alignment).

No comet has the mass to do that.

Unless there's another scenario in play altogether, take a look at previous post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post228242

[nearing]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by nearing (here)

He forgets(?) that this 'comet' has been causing a gravitational/magnetic pull on the earth (earthquakes!) everytime it's mass is added to the Sun's pull on us (alignment).

No comet has the mass to do that.

Unless there's another scenario in play altogether, take a look at previous post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post228242

So, you mean like NASA programming the JPL software to make it 'look' like the 'comet's' alignments caused these earthquakes? Okay, I guess then we would have to ask why? If they only want to scare people, why wouldn't they come out and just announce that destruction is cOming? That would really scare us, right? Then we would also have to ask why they spent trillions of our tax money to build those underground bmkers AND all of those infrared telescopes (meant to look for a brown dwarf only), one of which they turned off within 9mos. of it going online!

No, I tend to think the JPL software is correct.

[Operator]

I know ... maybe unlikely but still a possibility. Sometimes trying to connect the dots and see if it all fits together.
You maybe right on how they would approach it. But one way to make a hoax realistic is act like if the info was
leaked by accident giving it some extra spin ... The alternative media is doing TPTB a great service recently.

[blufire]

The one simple irrefutable fact I keep coming back to is this INSANE EXTREME WEATHER, VOLCANOS AND EARTHQUAKES.. Period.

It is increasing in intensity and frequency.

All videos, personal opinions, research, channeling, alien dialog, ancient writings, prophecy, predictions can all be torn apart, over analyzed and disputed.

We won’t know 100% sure what our future will entail until we are right smack in the middle of it.

I am not afraid or fear of what may come . . . . I’m actually excited as hell!! We live in a time of true transformation and foundational history and herstory.

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
"Planet X" has as much disinfo (if not more) pumped into it than UFOs.

I think the tide is turning now as the "proof" would appear to be in the "pudding"???

Unless the data from nasa regarding elenin was a complete fabrication (and that is possible ... the lie is different at every level) it is really a slam dunk.

Comets just do *not* have that sort of impact on a planet and if that is the correct path ... we are indeed ... in deep doo doo

Calz, better be in deep meditation to be part of the transformation (shift).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LcX-KDPVtrg

[Carmody]

See my post in this thread. Watch the video, look closely at the lines he refers to, look at the supplied vortex/energy/grid line images. (from the vortex maps grid overlay file for Google earth)

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post228559

Connected to this thread, here?

Without a doubt. Figuring out exactly how..... is the key.

[loveandgratitude]

POSTED THIS ELSEWHERE - Thought it relevant -

Doomsday Is So Hard To Schedule!

The desperation of the money people is palpable. The manmade plagues were flubs. The earthquakes are not working. The tsunamis are not pounding the shorelines worldwide. The hurricanes and typhoons are not wreaking havoc. And the tornadoes are being spawned artificially by the score and they are not plunging the spirit of people into hopelessness.

A 'Great Rapture' prediction for May 21 2011 did not happen either. Polls reported just six million Americans believed in the prediction. The October, 'end of the world' prediction might have even fewer adherents.

The billionaires and trillionaires might as well pick up mud and throw it, so few of their plans are working. They have the secret technologies working with energies which could power the world for centuries aimed at faults and ocean floors and the planet will still not buckle.

They have super-computers plotting intersections of wave fronts from artificial quakes off Japan and other points on the Ring of Fire, converging under the San Andreas Fault but nothing moves. No gigantic tectonic releases have happened since March 11 2011. They have been aiming for a 9.0 Richter plus earthquakes somewhere...anywhere...but nothing has happened. The Earth has been ringing like a bell for months but the crust will not crack.

The New Madrid fault did not move at the scheduled date when a million people were practicing drills for a disaster, so they hit the whole area with HAARP frequencies and other energies causing massive tornados. Joplin Missouri was hit with an F-4 tornado because the scheduled 8.5 Richter quake did not happen in Cape Girardeau. The whole region which would have suffered by a strong quake has been pounded by tornados but still the spirits have not sunk.

The mud of fear is not sticking. The slime of depression is not being recognized. People are living their lives and helping others out of the problems not of their making. The tragedies are not acts of God and people know it. There is anger but it is still quiet and building.

There is something strong binding the crust together and the planners of doomsday cannot move against it. Soon the dark machinery will fall apart and the Earth will be free of the angry tempests of petty tyrants.

This is a replay of events which lead to the submergence of Atlantis. The same parties are trying to claim the Earth anew for their personal power and greed. There will be no chaos from which they can re-establish their hold. There will be no mass extinctions. The great teacher 'karma' is moving events in a different way so the old cycle will not be repeated. The hardest lessons will be for those who would attempt to destroy the world. The Earth will not be destroyed.

Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/doom...e24may11.shtml