Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[leavesoftrees]

The season finale was a good one, particularly that final image..Pity the show has been cancelled, maybe those behind it had said all that they wanted to say

Posted by greybeard (here)
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-...#ixzz1NxkDNr1U

Interesting article re the the Event on TV

Chris

[nearing]

Here is Dr. Richard Muller's site:

http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/pffp.html

If I had the time right now (my Board exam is on Friday!) I'd write to him to see how he feels about all of this, especially the Omerborish's paper about the earthquakes and alignments.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Comet Elenin is the little blob between the tick marks in this negative image (black stars, white sky) taken on April 20 through a 10-inch telescope. Notice the bit of fuzz around it - that's part of the comet's gaseous envelope called the coma. The galaxy NGC 3376 is at right. Credit: Jean-François Soulier

link

[nearing]

Doesn't look like astrobob read Dr. Omerborish's paper (sp?). LOL.

[truthseekerdan]

Biblical Prophet Jeremiah 25:32, 48:8 Predicts Return of Nibiru aka Planet X as “The Destroyer”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jUHM9wnL3Jc

[jcocks]

Posted by nearing (here)

Posted by jcocks (here)
It just occurred to me....

Many of the British Royals, and many world leaders, are going to be in my home town of Perth for the 2011 CHOGM conference in October...


interesting timing, huh? ;-)

Can anyone dig up any interesting facts about Perth. I know it's closest city to the 23rd parrallel...but what about energy grid lines etc?

What does CHOGM stand for?

Very interesting, indeed. I wonder if there are any underground bunkers Perth. Lord?

Commonwealth Heads Of Government Meeting. It's the shin-dig the commonwealth (ex-british colonies) has every few years to talk about global issues....

Yeah there would no doubt be bunkers in Perth, but I know not where. Perth is also the site of a strong energy vortex. I was having UFO dreams eveery night when I lived there... Perth is also the closest major city to the 33rd parrallel.

[witchy1]

Hey Sid (or other Perthians), have you considred getting involved in "shaping" one of the forums: “This is an unparalleled opportunity for at least 40 Western Australians to discuss the global issues that are important to them,” Mr Gray said. http://www.chogm2011.org/Resources/L...e-chogm-agenda

Or you could volunteer and hope to get up close and personal with the guest
http://www.chogm2011.org/Resources/L...tions-flooding

Thats of course unless the MIB come and pay you a visit and take you away..........what HAVE you been up to - no doubt creating a disturbance in the force

Looks like it starts on October 1st - so my guess is that Perth would be a fine place to be in October.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
Hey Sid (or other Perthians), have you considred getting involved in "shaping" one of the forums: “This is an unparalleled opportunity for at least 40 Western Australians to discuss the global issues that are important to them,” Mr Gray said. http://www.chogm2011.org/Resources/L...e-chogm-agenda

Or you could volunteer and hope to get up close and personal with the guest
http://www.chogm2011.org/Resources/L...tions-flooding

Thats of course unless the MIB come and pay you a visit and take you away..........what HAVE you been up to - no doubt creating a disturbance in the force

Looks like it starts on October 1st - so my guess is that Perth would be a fine place to be in October.

They would see my name and just delete it.
I have messed with them for years, after they started on me.
I don't mind, if my enemy knows I am his enemy, that is ok by me.

[JoeNashville]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
I highly recommend you guys (skeptics alike) to listen to this interview which was made before Japan's earthquake, and pay attention (no joke).

One thing does not make sense to me -- if the world's sea level is going to rise 400 to 600 feet world wide, then that is a Humongous amount of water, additional water above and beyond what is on this planet now.

There simply is not enough water on the planet to do that; not even close.

The theory is it would be a Tsunami type wave caused by the mass of the body, most likely from south to north and affected by the rotation of Earth... only a whole lost bigger than the Tsunami's we've seen lately!

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Unfortunately, the idea that a nearby passing mass - even that big and close, would cause the earth to stop spinning on its axis makes no sense to me either.

I remember doing a physics experiment on secondary school. Spin a bicycle wheel en keep your hands at both sides at the end of the axis.
Try to change the angle of the spinning wheel ... it's very hard or not possible at all. Bikes are able to drive on 2 wheels by this principle.
Boomerangs are stable in flight for the same reason.

So in order to change the axis of the planet you have probably to stop it spinning (or slow down). That would require a lot of energy.

Maybe it's not impossible but at least it's more difficult than most people think ...

Terol's theory is that ELEnin will have strong enough force to manipulate the poles magnetically. That's a lot of force!

There are also other ways. Any movement of large land mass would affect the rotation, though anything less than a mile of axis shift is not worth worrying about imo...

If the earth is expanding or a major crack happens the land masses split the effect could be significant. Can't wait to find out!!

Posted by Bollinger (here)
Please ignore it and get on with the serious business of living your life and seeing out your purpose; whatever you deem it to be.

But what if your purpose is to figure out what is coming and make predictions about it?

Posted by nearing (here)
Here is Dr. Richard Muller's site:

http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/pffp.html

I read Mueller's book Nemesis which is excellent. I'd love to know what he thinks about this also, but I'd bet money he won't be talking about it.

Posted by nearing (here)
Doesn't look like astrobob read Dr. Omerborish's paper (sp?). LOL.

I read Omergiberish's paper and it didn't work for me. His data didn't support his hypothesis. He was grasping at straws really and never proved a specific theory, other than you can find some sort of planetary arrangement for whatever earthquake happens. And when you look we have dozens of quakes every day including many 6+, although it's been quiet lately as ELEnin sweeps around the Sun. He threw everything possible in the mix and I'm almost surprised he didn't include other galaxies.

I'm really surprised how many people are citing his paper and obviously haven't read it or didn't understand it.

[jcocks]

Posted by witchy1 (here)

Looks like it starts on October 1st - so my guess is that Perth would be a fine place to be in October.

Or not Either way, I'm planning to be there for at least some of the CHOGM.... Should be fun. I'll be keeping my eyes and ears open for wierd goings-on in and around Perth during that time...

[lightpotential]

Dear Group,

I have got the latest data from JPL and evaluated the orbit of Elenin, and found that it does come close on 22 September 2011 to a very accurate conjunction with the earth and venus. See my two images, as modelled within Starry Night 6.0 Pro. One is a long range distance shot. The other is a close up of the same event at the same time:



Close-up image. Same time. Arc separation between Elenin and Venus respecting the Earth = less than 8 minutes of arc:



Could this close alignment trigger a possible 'flare-up' of Elenin, or a major earthquake on the earth itself?

Keith

[lightpotential]

As a follow up to the above, I wondered if anyone had also heard that a 'flare-up' of Comet P17/Holmes in 2007 on 24 October has been said by the Mayan Council of Elders to have fulfilled the 'Bluestar Prophecy'.

Keith

[golden lady]

Hi Keith
This has been discussed on the thread- Proof that comet Elenin........
In your interview with Kerry you say you hadn't really looked into Elenin. I presume you now have had the chance. I was wondering what your take might be on what you think it may be, a comet or ?
Many thanks.
Love your work by the way.

[Bollinger]

Is this not the most interesting and one of the oldest human past-times? Gathering round a cosy fire, talking about ancient myths passed down from our ancestors, inspirational stories about human conquest and endeavour and how to overcome your fears, win through challenges and defeat the enemy, whatever or whoever it happens to be?

The only difference is we are not in front of a cosy fire in the middle of some remote forest but in front of a screen typing in questions, answers, thoughts, opinions and videos taken from sources such as YouTube which itself is simply another gathering able to accommodate millions of contributors able to share their experiences and talents through the medium of moving electronic images.

If you take out the conspiratorial subtext from all of this, you are in fact left with nothing more than a set of inconsistent, highly contradictory set of assertions and assumptions that are based on observation and conclusion alone.

The underlying context that drives most of the statements and comments on this thread and others like it is that there is some huge, brilliantly executed, superbly planned and maintained global cover-up that encompasses subjects such as our health, world finance, aliens, hidden technology, underground cities, hollow moons, time-machines, teleportation, ancient calendars, mind-control, earth-quake weapons, weather modification, 2012 and I could go on for a good deal longer. The assumption is that certain people get off on power and control and this is their way of attaining it. Sorry, but I don’t buy that argument. Yes, while individually we are selfish and greedy creatures and will sometimes commit acts of violence and hatred towards another because we wish to dominate and control, that does not mean there is a huge body of people acting to achieve this on a global scale. Even if a tiny portion of what is now coursing through the veins of “awakened thinking” were fact, you are still left with a very large WHY?

The above question has not been and cannot be adequately answered by anyone. It is largely based on improvable assumptions. Yes there are evil things being done to humans by other humans? Yes there is ill intent and a very dark side to every one of us but that does not imply nor prove a global cover-up of the kind that feeds the fires in this forum. There is no “mystery” that I can see. Whatever you see that is wrong in this world is so because of our own frailties of mind and insecurities borne out of the innate will to survive which we cannot readily change given the limitations in our current state of evolution, physically and mentally.

People often say we are living in interesting times. Since when has any time in the history of human existence, been uninteresting? The best we can do is hope and expect that the future of humanity, however rough the ride happens to be, is assured and will continue for some time yet and there is not a shred of concrete evidence to suggest otherwise.

You may exchange all sorts of words, opinions and videos that purport to reinforce your view point about how everything is being covered up and that we’re all going to die very soon; but to me, it is all nothing more than fables stoking the flames of mystery and creating short-term religious content in which to believe and revel.

[Jayke]

Hi Keith,

interesting times ahead no doubt, just wondered if you'd heard anything about the venus transit due on june 6 2012

http://www.lunarplanner.com/HCpages/Venus.html

since the mayans associated venus with Quetzalcoatl some people believe june 6 is the true Dec 21 2012 date, there's a belief that when venus and earth align with the sun, venus will cause a solar flare that will push a whole lot of space dust and protons onto our planet, stimulating the awakening of our heart chakra which is what venus is harmonically related to in the music of the spheres or so i'm told, feel free to correct, I know you have more expertise in this area.

“Coatl is the sacred snake whose movements mirror the way that Kundalini energy moves up the spinal column awakening the wheels of light that surround each of the major body centers. When this serpentine energy reaches the crown chakra at the top of the head, we are one with the Universal. Quetzal is the sacred bird that connects Earthly power with the Heavenly realms of the universe. Together the Quetzal and the Coatl are the creatures that are closest to the earth and heaven as well as representing the sacred balance of female and male.

This is the teaching within the name Quetzalcoatl, the teacher/savior deity to the Mayan and other Mexican peoples. According to Mayan tradition, this deity returns at specific times to again instruct humanity. According to the Mayan calendar, we are again in the time when Quetzalcoatl will return, and many people are expecting a savior to rescue us from all our problems.

…the symbol that will herald the coming of this deity, the morning star or the planet Venus. The Mayans say that the savior will come from the East like the shining star. I feel since Venus is the Goddess of love, that “love” will proclaim the coming of the balanced, awakened teacher.”

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Bollinger (here)
Is this not the most interesting and one of the oldest human past-times? Gathering round a cosy fire, talking about ancient myths passed down from our ancestors, inspirational stories about human conquest and endeavour and how to overcome your fears, win through challenges and defeat the enemy, whatever or whoever it happens to be? ...

Nice post Bollinger, but is it relevant to this thread..?

"This ELE tracking video gives you access to information on how to install coordinate locations pins in Google Sky to begin tracking the ELEnin dwarf star on your computer as part of your own investigation."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IhwAj485NwU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IhwAj485NwU

[JoeNashville]

Posted by Bollinger (here)
Is this not the most interesting and one of the oldest human past-times? Gathering round a cosy fire, talking about ancient myths passed down from our ancestors, inspirational stories about human conquest and endeavour and how to overcome your fears, win through challenges and defeat the enemy, whatever or whoever it happens to be?

The only difference is we are not in front of a cosy fire in the middle of some remote forest but in front of a screen typing in questions, answers, thoughts, opinions and videos taken from sources such as YouTube which itself is simply another gathering able to accommodate millions of contributors able to share their experiences and talents through the medium of moving electronic images.

If you take out the conspiratorial subtext from all of this, you are in fact left with nothing more than a set of inconsistent, highly contradictory set of assertions and assumptions that are based on observation and conclusion alone.

The underlying context that drives most of the statements and comments on this thread and others like it is that there is some huge, brilliantly executed, superbly planned and maintained global cover-up that encompasses subjects such as our health, world finance, aliens, hidden technology, underground cities, hollow moons, time-machines, teleportation, ancient calendars, mind-control, earth-quake weapons, weather modification, 2012 and I could go on for a good deal longer. The assumption is that certain people get off on power and control and this is their way of attaining it. Sorry, but I don’t buy that argument. Yes, while individually we are selfish and greedy creatures and will sometimes commit acts of violence and hatred towards another because we wish to dominate and control, that does mean there is a huge body of people acting to achieve this on a global scale. Even if a tiny portion of what is now coursing through the veins of “awakened thinking” were fact, you are still left with a very large WHY?

The above question has not been and cannot be adequately answered by anyone. It is largely based on improvable assumptions. Yes there are evil things being done to humans by other humans? Yes there is ill intent and a very dark side to every one of us but that does not imply nor prove a global cover-up of the kind that feeds the fires in this forum. There is no “mystery” that I can see. Whatever you see that is wrong in this world is so because of our own frailties of mind and insecurities borne out of the innate will to survive which we cannot readily change given the limitations in our current state of evolution, physically and mentally.

People often say we are living in interesting times. Since when has any time in the history of human existence, been uninteresting? The best we can do is hope and expect that the future of humanity, however rough the ride happens to be, is assured and will continue for some time yet and there is not a shred of concrete evidence to suggest otherwise.

You may exchange all sorts of words, opinions and videos that purport to reinforce your view point about how everything is being covered up and that we’re all going to die very soon; but to me, it is all nothing more than fables stoking the flames of mystery and creating short-term religious content in which to believe and revel.

WOW, it must be nice to go through life so ignorant and so blissfully naive and happy, keeping your head in the sand while knocking others for pursuing the hard facts and truths about our history and existence. Which color pill is that? But good for you. I never even got the chance to walk in those shoes and don't know if I would still be taking that pill or could stay happy being blissfully ignorant.

If you don't buy the argument, that's one thing, but if you fail to see it it's because you choose to be ignorant, that's another. There are hundreds of excellent books on a variety of topics, any one of which would enlighten you to the point of changing your opinion. I will neither try to convince you otherwise or point out undeniable facts, but simply acknowledge your point and say... It's one thing to know the facts and remain optimistic that the good people will overcome the bad. It's entirely another to be ignorant of reality and deny it's existence. Sadly I'm sure you know you're not alone.

In terms of this thread and others on the subject, because I've studied the subject thoroughly, I can say you are correct in stating that there is a great deal of misinformation, disinformation, grand standing and hyperbole on the subject of Comet ELEnin on the web. Most people don't do their own research, don't understand what they are seeing and are passing on and dealing with incorrect information. And some sadly are making life decisions based on their ignorance.

However, it is a fact that based on the NASA JPL data, that the last three major quakes have occurred on specific dates when ELEnin aligned directly with the Earth and the Sun. There were also many other significant events that occurred involving ELEnin, all of which I have researched and confirmed myself. But I won't bother you with more facts.

In reality we cannot predict what will happen, but I'm glad to be discussing events, possible causes, probable events and future outcomes. It's a interesting conversation. I hate to think you read this whole threat only to say your proudly ignorant. Oh that's right Dancing with the Stars is over...

It's a great of work to stay so ignorant. Even if that came in a pill, I wouldn't take it.

But either way, I'm looking forward to finding out what happens...

[Bollinger]

Posted by JoeNashville (here)
WOW, it must be nice to go through life so ignorant and so blissfully naive and happy, keeping your head in the sand while knocking others for pursuing the hard facts and truths about our history and existence. Which color pill is that? But good for you. I never even got the chance to walk in those shoes and don't know if I would still be taking that pill or could stay happy being blissfully ignorant.

If you don't buy the argument, that's one thing, but if you fail to see it it's because you choose to be ignorant, that's another. There are hundreds of excellent books on a variety of topics, any one of which would enlighten you to the point of changing your opinion. I will neither try to convince you otherwise or point out undeniable facts, but simply acknowledge your point and say... It's one thing to know the facts and remain optimistic that the good people will overcome the bad. It's entirely another to be ignorant of reality and deny it's existence. Sadly I'm sure you know you're not alone.

In terms of this thread and others on the subject, because I've studied the subject thoroughly, I can say you are correct in stating that there is a great deal of misinformation, disinformation, grand standing and hyperbole on the subject of Comet ELEnin on the web. Most people don't do their own research, don't understand what they are seeing and are passing on and dealing with incorrect information. And some sadly are making life decisions based on their ignorance.

However, it is a fact that based on the NASA JPL data, that the last three major quakes have occurred on specific dates when ELEnin aligned directly with the Earth and the Sun. There were also many other significant events that occurred involving ELEnin, all of which I have researched and confirmed myself. But I won't bother you with more facts.

In reality we cannot predict what will happen, but I'm glad to be discussing events, possible causes, probable events and future outcomes. It's a interesting conversation. I hate to think you read this whole threat only to say your proudly ignorant. Oh that's right Dancing with the Stars is over...

It's a great of work to stay so ignorant. Even if that came in a pill, I wouldn't take it.

But either way, I'm looking forward to finding out what happens...

The first port of call for any supposition - before you set sail and go searching for evidence recycled from other people’s research who also claim to “know undeniable facts” - is to analyse through logical thinking its implication. Ask yourself, what am I trying to achieve? What am I actually saying?

What is being put before us is the idea that a comet with sufficient mass is making its way towards the orbit of Earth and depending on a certain alignment with its trajectory, there is significant gravitational field effect to cause large earth-quakes. First of all, if our “awakened thinking” will allow us to trust Newton’s law of universal gravitation, the pull between two objects varies inversely as the square of the distance between them and directly with the product of their masses. It says nothing about the angle of incidence. The nearer the two objects are the greater the force of attraction. So you can see that talking about “alignment” is completely irrelevant. In fact, there are occasions in the solar system when all the planets roughly align with each other on one side and the sun on the other and guess what, nothing interesting happens – well other than causing a mild hernia on some old folk.

Do you not see that there is actually no need to go rushing off to find “nuggets of hidden information” because the supposition is flawed and falls over at the first hurdle? If that’s not good enough for you; how about this? People here generally do not trust anything that NASA puts out simply because it is a government-controlled body but you have no qualms about citing JPL data from them. Is NASA so stupid as to publish facts that are going to compromise the cover-up? If not, why are they pouring untreated scorn over all this Elenin stuff at their website?

Anyway, I myself tend to find all this immensely interesting but not so much as to what people say but why they are saying it. It is compelling, immensely important and a highly fertile ground for study.

My own feelings about this in general, and forgive me if it goes somewhat off topic, is that people are not so much waking up (to coin an overused and tired phrase) but more likely we appear to be on the cusp of a significant evolutionary change. I fully admit that it is just an assumption driven by the desire to explain an observation.

[JoeNashville]

WOW again. Do you even read your own writing? Or should I say do you understand it?

I'm starting to wonder. But to answer your point, I'm not recycling anyone's research, and I am frustrated by those that do, including you, but that's another thread. In fact your attempt to ascribe other peoples theories and ideas is hereby uncovered and flatly rejected.

What is being put before us is the idea that a comet with sufficient mass is making its way towards the orbit of Earth and depending on a certain alignment with its trajectory, there is significant gravitational field effect to cause large earth-quakes.

The only person 'putting forth' that argument is you. That's your recycled BS that you're trying to fit in here. In fact I don't think anyone in this thread has said anything like that. So why are you?

I don't think gravity has anything to do with it and have never said that. Nor if you understand what you are quoting about Newton's law does that. You're trying to make the only theory you know fit this for some reason.

'Comet' ELEnin doesn't have the mass to either sustain a 10,800 year orbit or cause gravitational effects on anything. In fact it's so small it would be subject to being affect by other bodies rather than causing them. And that is part of the mystery.

That none of the characteristics you mentioned even apply and if you had studied the matter you would know that. All of the behavior of the 'comet' is outside established patterns and theories and known data.

And I never said anything about random alignments. Though AGAIN, other people and their flawed research have which YOU are recycling. I'm talking about specific alignments on specific days linked to specific events. And those dates and those events are beyond refute.

Moreover, you clearly haven't done any research yourself, because if you had at least looked at the NASA JPL data closely, you would have to admit something is strange. And if you had a curious mind that would motivate you to seek more real data. That is how I got interested in this. So if you want to live in denial, which is fine for you, but don't waste the time of others who are open minded and seeking answers.

And once again you're wrong with your assumptions. A large number of people still trust NASA. Though personally, I'm on the fence and take it with a grain of salt. Whether or not the NASA data is legit is another thread and perhaps a worthy one if you want to explore why JPL would create all this data. Sadly for the discussion of ELEnin and it's parameters is really the only game in town.

The point is the activity doesn't fit into any theory and is anomalous and so the question is why? And if not what could else could it be? And we're open to anything, including a dwarf/binary star, or wherever the evidence leads us.

What we're trying to do here is understand the anomalous aspects of this 'comet' and to the extent possible predict what the future events may be.

I do agree with your point as to why people say what they say. It is especially interesting in your case.

My own feelings about this in general, and forgive me if it goes somewhat off topic, is that people are not so much waking up (to coin an overused and tired phrase) but more likely we appear to be on the cusp of a significant evolutionary change. I fully admit that it is just an assumption driven by the desire to explain an observation.

No forgiveness is required because you were never really on topic, but I would like to answer your question with a question:

Why would 'we' be on the cusp of an evolutionary change or even an awakening when people aren't even using a fraction of the real ability they already have? The universal consciousness is to smart to waste an 'upgrade' on those who aren't even close to understanding in their current position? Never mind, I don't want this to turn into a thread jack...

[Vividity]

On another thread (GD) "Proof that Comet Elenin..." I posted the following last night, but it should be posted here as well:

Like many people I read the Omerbashich paper and was extremely concerned about the possibility of a brown dwarf orbiting our sun on the JPL provided Elenin trajectory. I understood it would be visible only in the southern hemisphere at this time, so I sent emails to several astronomers in New Zealand and Australia. Dr. Andrew Williams of the Perth Observatory was kind enough to send me a lengthy reply:

"The 'paper', and all of the internet speculation about Elenin is complete nonsense. It's also not a refereed, published scientific paper. It has never been formally published, by anyone, in any form - the arXiv site is just a website, you can put whatever writings you want up there, with no review process or permission required. That arXiv website happens to be hosted at Cornell University - Omerbashich doesn't work at Cornell, and has absolutely nothing to do with Cornell, other than uploading his article to their website...

The article is full of meaningless pseudoscientific gibberish ('gravitational shadowing', etc), the statistics are ridiculous, and the data, as he's presented it, is useless to draw any conclusions from. By the time you consider the Earth, Sun, Moon, all the other planets, and this comet 'Elenin', there are dozens of combinations including the Earth and two or more other objects. If he's allowing each of these possible 'alignments' to last for three days (or an unspecified amount longer for ones involving the Sun), then an appreciable fraction of the entire year occurs just before or after one of these 'alignments'.

Look at the numbers. Earth can be paired up with any one of nine other objects, according to his table - Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Elenin. Each of these 8 possible pairs 'sweeps out' an imaginary line, extending in both directions, around the rest of the Solar System, as both objects in the pair continue on their orbits. Then, out of these nine pairs, it's an 'alignment' if any one of the remaining 8 other objects happens to be in line with that pair - so there are 72 possible 'alignment' combinations, most of which happen many times per year, some less often, depending on the orbital period of the planets involved. If each lasts three (or more) days, I doubt there's a single day per year when he couldn't claim some sort of 'alignment'...

On top of that, earthquakes occur in clusters, by their very nature - typically a main shock and several aftershocks, or several shocks along the length of a fault, as the plate moves. Most of the 'earthquakes' listed in table 1 are aftershocks, or directly linked to a larger earthquake.

It might be possible to extract some meaning from his data if he'd presented a list of every possible 'alignment' of every combination of planets, comets, Sun and Moon, and counted how many of them coincided with major earthquakes (discounting aftershocks) - and more importantly, how many of them didn't.

As for comet Elenin being a moon of a brown dwarf, that's even more ridiculous. A brown dwarf is, as you point out, just like Jupiter, only heavier. It would be hotter - radiating a lot more infrared - and slightly larger. Like Jupiter, it wouldn't actually generate much visible light, however, like Jupiter, it would be perfectly good at reflecting sunlight - which is how we see Jupiter in the sky, and why it looks so bright.

If there really were a brown dwarf in the Solar System, 270 million kilometers away from Earth (as of May 4, according to JPL - closer now), it would look just like Jupiter, only three times closer, and nine times brighter. After the Sun and the Moon, it would be the brightest thing in the sky, by far, and even a toy telescope would easily show a disk, and bands of cloud. It would have been noticed...

Even if there was some mysterious jet-black non-reflective 'brown dwarf', which is physically impossible, the effects of its gravity would have been obvious for years - asteroids and planets would have been flung out of their orbits as it came in through the Solar System."

Andrew Williams

Ian Musgrave of Australia sent me to his blog for a rebuttal of the Omerbashich paper:
http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/201...rthquakes.html

For me, this topic has now been put to rest.
Cheers