E.coli cucumber scare: Germany seeks source of outbreak

[Siegfried The 7]

I wonder if this is a perfected strain from the bacteria that claimed the lives of many in Haiti.

You know TPTB like to "practice" in small controlled areas or on the people often forgot about.

Time to get ready for the GMO invasion. This just seems TOO obvious!

All so perfect that its a strand they've never seen before and they have no answers for stopping it.

This and many other things are starting to remind me of the tv show "The Event". There was some virus discovered in a man who was frozen in the ice caps(if i remembered correctly) and the virus was still alive in his lungs, so the aliens had the lungs removed so that they could set the virus free on the American population.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well I'm watching for an update from Fulford on this one...

[Wings]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
It is certainly time to elicit the help of MMS1 and MMS2 and Grapefruit seed extract.

I would be washing, with full emersion of all veggies into a solution of MMS2

Intelligent people with a high E.Q. will be moving into right and sensible action, not fear.

Grapefruit seed extract SHOULD NOT be taken by people with high blood pressure. It interferes with some blood pressure medication.

Posted by astrid (here)
"How to protect yourself from e.coli

3) TAKE PROBIOTICS. The more "friendly" bacteria you have in your gut, the less space there is for toxic e.coli to take hold. The secret truth about these infections -- that you're not being told -- is that virtually everyone infected with toxic e.coli is someone with compromised digestive flora. Taking probiotics gives you a buffer against invading nasties.

Thanks for your post Astrid. You give good advice. But, what did people do in the days prior to the dispensing of vitamins and supplements? Supplements are also expensive for some people.

Natural food sources of probiotics are yoghurt (natural and unsweetened) and fermented cabbage (sauerkraut). Don’t the Germans eat sauerkraut any more?

To promote growth of good bacteria you need prebiotics – FOS (fructo-oligo saccharides) and inulin – to selectively stimulate the growth of bifido bacteria (good gut bacteria). Natural food sources: artichokes, onion, garlic, banana, chicory, leeks, asparagus, olives, legumes.

If you have a good diet this will keep the digestive system functioning properly without the need for supplemental probiotics. How?

Digestive enzymes – help keep the gut free of bad bacteria. 2 such enzymes – papain (found in papaya) and bromelain (found in pineapple). Vinegar and lemon juice also help stimulate digestive enzymes (people with ulcers should be careful here though).

Fibre – keeps things moving in the intestinal tract and so reducing the possibility of fermentation, therefore preventing the growth of bad gut bacteria. Fibre is found in fruit and vegetables; cereal grains like oats, bran, brown rice etc.; seeds like linseeds and LSA mix etc. Quinoa a pseudo-cereal is fantastic – apart from the fact that it’s a complete protein and gluten free, it is also a good source of fibre and is high in magnesium (magnesium is needed to help intestinal movement).

Bitters – eating bitter foods helps the liver by stimulating bile flow. Reduced bile flow results in a slower transit time in digestive tract, leading to constipation which then leads to ‘fermentation’ and an overgrowth in bad gut bacteria. Food sources to stimulate bile: bitter leafy greens like radicchio, dandelion, chicory etc., olives and olive oil, artichokes. Some Europeans have an aperitif before their meal – aperitifs contain bitters which help to stimulate digestion before eating.

Lifestyle - regular exercise helps keep things moving in the gut; low stress likewise.

Sometimes it’s necessary for people to take antibiotics, in which case they should supplement with probiotics (taken at the other end of the day, NOT with the antibiotics).

It is very possible this E-Coli outbreak is linked to an animal. I would not be surprised if it’s a bird (bird manure).

[Maia Gabrial]

Hey conk,
I'll bet the reason why they smoke out the B17 in almonds is because it helps cure cancer....
People can't help thinking that there's something nefarious behind this latest scare. Deadly cucumbers....indeed!
I love cucumbers, too.
Maia

[Dennis Leahy]

I think a bunch of Avalon readers have their suspicions properly placed. This certainly appears to be an engineered/manufactured event, not a natural outbreak. Wash your food. Bless your food. No fear - just be vigilant.

Dennis

[K626]

Germany has one of the largest healthfood and bio food production markets in Europe..This is a strike against that for sure and some of us saw it coming. Germany alone has been resisting GM and so on...

cheers

K

[Lettherebelight]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
It sounds like they have NO antibiotics to fight this with - hence the use of trial drugs. Your advice is good Astrid.
If it is communicable - we are playing in an entirely different league and if this is in fact correct - no amount of washing your veg will keep you safe. We really need to find this out and fast. Is it transferred via respiratory system (droplet, coughing etc where the next person breathes it in) or transferred by fomites - on surfaces ( table tops, chairs, money etc where we touch something and put our fingers in our mouths/eyes) You get the picture

Good greif they can grow this bug in 8 hours in a petrie dish - what are they doing

If it is already in another country contracted from within that country - (like could not have got it from travelling to Germany or Spain) there is real reason for concern. We should start to see no travel areas etc if this is the case watch for signs. It sounds reasonably fast moving at this stage anyway.

PS: Im not trying to be the harbinger of doom and gloom, just stressing the
importance of watching out for it and doing what you can to keep yourselves safe as possible. Especially if you are in Europe.

Hi Witchy, as we could probably have guessed by the rapid spread, it looks like it is communicable on some level. The strain has officially been labelled 'contagious', by major news sources in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

BTW, Thanks for all the info you have been posting on this one, along with Astrid.
I agree 100% this is no joking matter.

[observer]

Posted by heyokah (here)
Scientists from the Beijing Genomics Institute in southern China said Thursday the new E.colistrain responsible for the outbreak carried genes that made it resistant to some antibiotics.

“This E.coli is a new strain of bacteria that is highly infectious and toxic,” said researchers from the Shenzhen-based centre who are collaborating with scientists in Germany. [....snip]

This collaboration with the Chinese has a chilling connotation, reminiscent of what Bill Ryan is saying in the 'Anglo Saxon Mission' material:
http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/ang...ission_en.html
(Move timer over to 14:50)

[witchy1]

Scientific analysis has failed to show that contaminated vegetables are behind Europe's deadly E. coli outbreak, the EU's Reference Laboratory for E. coli in Rome said Friday.

"Alarmism over the consumption of vegetables is not justified ... since laboratory analyses do not support the hypothesis that contaminated vegetables were the source of the infection the laboratory said in a statement.

........The laboratory said the strain "cannot be considered mutant... but rather a strain originating from the acquisition of new genes."

The current outbreak has now spread to 12 countries but appears to be stabilizing, a senior German doctor said Friday, as the death toll rose to 19.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/0...#ixzz1OGT6wdAJ

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Although generally children and the elderly are most at risk of infection, investigators have also noted an unusually high number of adult women among the sufferers this year, leading to questions about whether the source is in a product marketed more heavily to women.
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/201...larms-germany/

[witchy1]

Hospitals in Germany have appealed to the public for more blood donations, as the number of new victims of E.coli rose to almost 100 a day.

The Robert Koch Institute, the main health body investigating the outbreak, said 18 people had been killed by the bug in Germany in the past two weeks. In addition, one person in Sweden has died and more than 1,800 others have been infected around the world. Four new cases were identified in the UK yesterday, bringing the total to 11 people being treated for the infection. All are from or have visited northern Germany, where experts are desperately working to find the source of the outbreak.

.......The Koch Institute said hospitals had registered 199 new E.coli infections in Germany since Wednesday and that in 50 of the cases, patients had developed the potentially lethal haemolytic-uraemic syndrome (HUS), a follow-on condition which damages the kidneys and nervous system

.....The bug has now also been identified in people in the Czech Republic, France and the United States, as well as Austria, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, and Switzerland.

......Professor Dag Harmsen of Münster University Clinic. "We think we will soon have collected enough data to establish what is making this clone so aggressive," he added. But officials said they still had no idea which food products were carrying the bacteria. The Robert Koch Institute has admitted that the food source "may never be known".

In northern Germany, where the epidemic is centred, there was no indication that the crisis was easing. In Hamburg, the city worst hit by the outbreak, the head of the blood donations service issued a fresh public appeal for donors. The city's Eppendorf University Clinic, where the bulk of victims are being treated, has been using blood transfusions to "wash" patients' systems clean of the bacteria. The clinic announced that its stocks were running low. "The stocks need to be replenished," said Lutz Schmidt, Hamburg's chief medical officer.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...y-2292889.html

ADDIT: Reports in the last 4 hours declare a stabilization. (well appears this comes from one Doctor anyway)

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Siegfried The 7 (here)
All so perfect that its a strand they've never seen before and they have no answers for stopping it.

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this is not the only microbe around that they have no cure for. We really have been sitting on a time bomb for quite a while regarding the way animals are raised and fed antibiotics... these mutations can happen even without antibiotic use but with antibiotics much more frequently. We will be seeing more in the future as we already have in the past.

I just can't get on the bandwagon that this is a purposely engineered microbe and sent out to kill the masses.

I suspect mms 1 and mms2 will take care of it nicely.. the kidney failure thing it is doing is very typical to mutant e-coli infections.
MMS has a rep for reversing kidney failure.. which demonstrates that it really gets into all those tiny tubes in the kidneys and cleans them out.

One of the most potent probiotics out there is VSL#3 ... and if you make your own yogurt you can open a cap into it when you are mixing the culture into the milk. Your yogurt will be more potent.

[observer]

Dr. Len Horowitz has come forward with his interpretation of the E.coli outbreak on Coast to Coast radio:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wswQ0NISnaI

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wswQ0NISnaI
(Move timer over to 10 minutes for the start of the interview)

Dr. Horowitz has had his finger on the pulse of emerging viruses for many years. He has been interviewed by Bill and Kerry in the past. This entire interview is well worth the listen. Dr. Horowitz ties many aspects of what is happening behind the smoke-and-mirrors together.

Footnote: Thank you to Helvetic for alerting the members to this interview.

[blufire]

I have been following and studying the GMO and bio engineering of food many years now.

Simply put . . . potent and virulent strains of viruses and bacteria are used to “introduce” mutated genetic material. It is how new strains of genetically altered foods, medicines and even animals are artificially created.

Plants that mature quickly so the genetically altered seed can be harvested are routinely used. Many times the “malfunction” of the altered plant does not show up for many generations of growth, harvest and replanting of mutated seed.

Different strains and bio-engineered strains of E.coli bacteria are used routinely as “transporters”. Bacteria and especially viruses are highly resilient and thrive and will always find a way to survive.

These reports of E.coli and other viruses and bacteria are simply genetically and bio-engineered “transporters gone wild”.

Trans-mutated genes have only begun to make their appearance.

[Bhusunda]

Thanks to observer for the link to the Coast to Coast interview. Very enlightening!
I ordered MMS today. Who knows, maybe I need it when I am paying a visit to Germany next week.

Today, the main press in Germany spins mostly around a hint, that some of the affected (17 to be exact) have all been eating in the same restaurant. But, of course, they couldn't find any trace of E.coli there. So the press is basically trying to give the impression of a feverish search for the origin, trying not to focus on more obvious answers.

A map with the number of infections in germany as of today can be found in this article:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltg...vereinigt.html
It can be clearly seen here, that the center is in North Germany, particularly in the city state of Hamburg and the state Schleswig-Holstein north of Hamburg. (Dark Red in color)

One source in the alternative media, "Kopp Verlag", adds an interesting new view.
Namely, that there is a biological laboratory of the german army south of the town of Hamburg, the "Wehrwissenschaftliches Institut für Schutztechnologien (WIS)" ('Scientific Army-Institute for Protection Technologies'). The official objective of this institute is to find counter-measures against ABC-attacks (atomic, biological, chemical) on Germany. By law we are not allowed to produce any bio-weapons for offensive purposes. But of course, they have to experiment with bacteria for this.
The article points out, as blufire already mentioned, that experimentation with E.coli is very common. So there is also the possibility that this is an an outbreak or forced leakage from this laboratory, something like a Biological-Fukushima on german soil.
That Ehec contains 93 % of the DNA of an african type of E.coli that is known to cause severe diarrhea points also into this direction. Now, the author claims to have received information that this institute was experimenting with exactly that type of E.coli.
The author claims that his information is coming directly from involved researchers and he points out that the region south of Hamburg and around this institute is known for growing a lot of vegetables.
This website is usually quite well informed.

Source: (sorry, only in german)
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergru...undeswehr.html

Stay healthy,
Bhusunda

[Rocky_Shorz]

can you tell me what this is talking of and how it ties together with Koch?

Robert Koch Institute

According to official governmental information, no outdoor studies with aerosols were performed in recent years. The CBMs from 1994 to 1998 failed to address the question of outdoor aerosol studies at the SanAk, but it appears to be very unlikely that this omission is an indication that such studies were carried out in these years. The locations at the SanAk are not really suitable for outdoor aerosol studies, and any such study in Germany would be much more likely to be conducted at the WIS in Munster, which, however, stated in all CBMs submitted so far that no such outdoor aerosol studies have been conducted (see below).link

[Bhusunda]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
can you tell me what this is talking of and how it ties together with Koch?

Robert Koch Institute

This is an official publication from the german government, the "Bundesamt für Bevölkerungsschutz und Katastrophenhilfe" ('Office for Civil-Protection and Catastrophy-Help'). It is produced in conjunction with the "Robert-Koch-Institute" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch_Institute, (named after the physician 'Robert Koch' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch) an institute of the german government with the aim of disease control and prevention.

This manual is called "Biologische Gefahren II, Entscheidungshilfen zu medizinisch angemessenen Vorgehensweisen in einer B-Gefahrenlage which means:
'Biological Threats II, Decision-Finding-Help for adequate medicinal course of actions in case of biological threats'
This manual is from a website of the german government called "Bevölkerungsschutz" which means 'Population protection'.

I didn't have time to read it now, but according to the table of contents it deals with:
How to handle single patients with high contagious diseases
How to handle many patients with high contagious diseases
How to handle patients in a massive outbreak of high contagious diseases
Course of action in case of an unknown germ/virus

And then follow several chapters how to handle some specific well known contagious diseases like anthrax, pest, pox and others.

I will read the chapter about the 'Course of action in case of an unknown germ/virus' and let you know what it contains.

[Bhusunda]

A very interesting read this publication. Thanks Rocky_Schorz!
Biologische Gefahren II are the chapters which set up a categorization of seriousness:
Bear in mind that this guide is focussing on the medicinal professions to give them help what to do in case they run out of capacities. I am extracting only the course of action for contagious diseases here.

Stage 1: "Einzelne Betroffene" (some affected)
In case there are only few infections it is classified as "Einzelne Betroffene" (some affected) and no special rules apply. They will be treated in hospitals which are specialized on that.

Stage 2 "Viele Betroffene" (Many affected)
In case there are so many infections that the 'special beds' for contagious diseases in hospitals are not sufficient anymore for an 'optimal individual medicinal treatment' and that all measures to increase the capacitiy (adding beds, changing shift-plans) have been taken already, the outbreak is classified as "Viele Betroffene" (Many affected). This has an effect that not in every case a full diagnostic is necessary anymore, its enough to show the symptoms to be treated. Also temporary capacities for isolation and treatment can be created in auxiliary rooms/facilities. Every hospital is supposed to have a plans for such an emergency. It is acknowledged that this can lead to high logistical problems. All other patients have to be separated at all times from the contagious patients. Some distinctions are made due to the way of infection (air, non-air)

Stage 3 "Massenhaft Betroffene" (Masses affected)
This category applies as soon as there are so many infected that the treatment-capacity and common bed-capacity of all hospitals in whole Germany is exceeded. This section is very general and states mainly that the health of non infected people has to be preserved as good as possible. All notes from Stage 2 apply here too. Main concern is separation of sick and non sick. All contact persons of infected person have to be quarantined. Use of auxiliary facilities. They are mentioning that it might be advisable to reserve only a few hospitals for normal sick people and convert all others solely for the treatment of this outbreak.

Chapter 3 then carries a very interesting title:
"Vorgehen in der Situation unbekannter Erreger/BT-Verdachtsfall"
which translates as:
"Course of action in case of an unknown germ/suspected bio-technological case"
Firs step is of course to identify the germ and its source as quickly as possible.
Regarding the medicinal consequences they differentiate between

• Obvious Bio-Attack
• Outbreak of acute infectious diseases in a small time period without political context
• Slow outbreak of an infectious disease/anomalous disease without political context

For all this scenarios it has to be found out, how this germ has been spread.
Then they differentiate according to spread:

• Local in closed buildings
• Local in open places and buildings
• Multi-local in open places and buildings
• Large area spread

Then they categorize the B-candidates that had contact with sick persons according to the nature of their contact. (4 categories)

Basis for the course of action is a law called "Infektionsschutz-Gesetz (IfSG)" (Law for Infection-Protection). Every physicist, veterinarian, any healing-professional, any captain of a ship or plane, any head of foster/car home, has to report any cases immediately.
The Health ministry, the forces ('Bundeswehr') and the foreign ministry and are informed. The local Health offices are in charge locally for all the coordination.
Then details follow what kind of information has to be gathered, the diagnostic procedure, gathering of samples for analysis and regulations for dispatch of this samples.

Here I stopped reading.

This is obviously focussing on the medicinal professions. At several places though they are referring to the first volume "Biologische Gefahren I" which seems to be more interesting. It contains such chapters as 'Public order and logistics in biological cases', 'Civil-Military cooperation' or 'Mass-psychological considerations'.

I will have a read of that this weekend and let you know what it contains.
http://www.bevoelkerungsschutz.de/cl.../3_Auflage.pdf

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Bhusunda (here)

A map with the number of infections in germany as of today can be found in this article:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltg...vereinigt.html
It can be clearly seen here, that the center is in North Germany, particularly in the city state of Hamburg and the state Schleswig-Holstein north of Hamburg. (Dark Red in color)

One source in the alternative media, "Kopp Verlag", adds an interesting new view.
Namely, that there is a biological laboratory of the german army south of the town of Hamburg, the "Wehrwissenschaftliches Institut für Schutztechnologien (WIS)" ('Scientific Army-Institute for Protection Technologies'). The official objective of this institute is to find counter-measures against ABC-attacks (atomic, biological, chemical) on Germany. By law we are not allowed to produce any bio-weapons for offensive purposes. But of course, they have to experiment with bacteria for this.
The article points out, as blufire already mentioned, that experimentation with E.coli is very common. So there is also the possibility that this is an an outbreak or forced leakage from this laboratory, something like a Biological-Fukushima on german soil.
That Ehec contains 93 % of the DNA of an african type of E.coli that is known to cause severe diarrhea points also into this direction. Now, the author claims to have received information that this institute was experimenting with exactly that type of E.coli.
The author claims that his information is coming directly from involved researchers and he points out that the region south of Hamburg and around this institute is known for growing a lot of vegetables.
This website is usually quite well informed.

Source: (sorry, only in german)
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergru...undeswehr.html

Stay healthy,
Bhusunda

Friend of Gaddafi who lost a close friend or family to a NATO strike? does this lab have international students? could samples of the exact e coli released be missing...

looks like government didn't have a clue...

[Czarek]

Posted by daledo (here)
Maybe the new strain was released because Germany recently announced that it was going to stop using nuclear power. Maybe they were going to announce a better power source like an overunity device. Could also be a warning to Germany about something. Stop paying your taxes and barter for goods and services to stop funding new designer diseases and sicknesses that are made in a lab.

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I couldn't agree more with you daledo. What's also strange about this outbreak is that fact that you have multiple locations and not one.

[Bhusunda]

The main-stream press is mainly focussing on a new clue. A lot of people with EHEC seem to have eaten sprouts. The main sprout manufacturer has been closed down and they are investigating now. An official result if the sprouts are contaminated will be expected tomorrow.
The minister of agriculture of the state of Lower Saxonia (south of Hamburg) is sure already that they have found the source of it.
If this proves to be right and the contamination ceases, my first suspicion might have been right, a kind of test ballon or secret field test.