Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[DoubleHelix]

Posted by Brodie75 (here)
Knowledge is free, but it costs money to bring it to a large audiance.

I can appreciate the need to charge for seminars and events to keep the boat afloat and all the rest.

But what's the exact cost here, I'm under the impression the video conference is a broadcasted live skype conversation - Sure they have some big names which i do have respect for, but does that entitle them to charge a fee? if it we're lesser known people would there be a fee ? I think not.

[Brodie75]

Posted by DoubleHelix (here)

Posted by Brodie75 (here)
Knowledge is free, but it costs money to bring it to a large audiance.

I can appreciate the need to charge for seminars and events to keep the boat afloat and all the rest.

But what's the exact cost here, I'm under the impression the video conference is a broadcasted live skype conversation - Sure they have some big names which i do have respect for, but does that entitle them to charge a fee? if it we're lesser known people would there be a fee ? I think not.

I believe, but am not sure that Richard Hoagland charges a small fee. On top of that you are paying for
time spent researching and gathering of imformation. Having said that i think the price should
reflect the quality of both the speakers information and presentation (tech problems,audio).

[Operator]

Posted by Mutchie (here)
how much is it to listen to this live conference ? Hoaxland has been attacking dr judy wood over her 9/11 book and that to me is a sign that he is a dis info agent......

Not only that, he's far too excited over a lot of topics, hyping it. How much of the hype appeared to be true ?
He appears to be more and more like a show master. Great he found anomalies in the Apollo photos but his glass domes on the moon turn out to be
studio artifacts rather than his explanation. He's been wrong lots of times before, including propagating we've been to the moon using Apollo technology.
The way he's read in on the material leaves me no other option than to conclude that his 'mistakes' can't be accidental.

But that's of course 'IMHO' ...

[Operator]

Posted by Operator (here)
The way he's read in on the material leaves me no other option than to conclude that his 'mistakes' can't be accidental.

Which, by the way, doesn't mean there is no useful information in the things he tells us. It could very well be he's only allowed to
tell us things in a distorted way ... but it's up to us to have the right filter on.

[Mutchie]

HELLO operator i speak with JOHN LEAR quite often and have come to class him as a friend & he is now CONVINCED HOAXLAND IS A SHILL and john wouldnt say that lightly as for comet elenin i spoke with richard hoagland on facebook about this and he said IT IS ALL BUNK to me that was when i asked him firstly about NASAS WARNING then about the ELENIN THREAT ASSESMENT anyway 2 days later there was a discussion running on his facebook page and HE HAD TOTALLY CHANGED HIS MIND now it was VERY STRANGE that they had issued the warning not only to its employees on earth but also to all humans who were off planet by that i think they meant the SECRET SPACE PROGRAM ......i mean lets say hoagland has a TICKET as they call it for a underground D.U.M.B wouldnt he say and do anything the goverment asked of him to protect his and his own family .....WE HAVE HAD 3 ALLIGMENTS = 3 MASSIVE EARTHQUAKES = 3 MORE COMING AT THE OBJECTS CLOSEST DISTANCE TO EARTH YET = AND THERE IS NOTHING ON MAIN STREAM NEWS = nothing whatsoever so what to make of it ?

[KosmicKat]

Posted by Carolin (here)

Posted by jack (here)
Elenin alignments :

1 time - chance. 2 times - coincidence. 3 times - science.

Love it!!! Now I know how many times a coincidence has to be a coincidence until it's no longer a coincidence

From Old Chicago,

Once is coicumstance,
Twice is coincidence,
Tree times is Enemy Action!

[Carolin]

HOAXLAND IS A SHILL

I guess if we believed government employees, past or present, we wouldn't be members of this forum.

I think that Leonid Elenin's website www.spaceobs.org is a shill also. I looked through the website briefly and couldn't find anything about the alignment dates. Has anybody else found anything credible on this website? Do you guys believe that Elenin has a 12, 989 year orbit?

[Mutchie]

its very hard knowing WHO is feeding us accurate info thesedays as for that site it tells you nothing is amiss = WELL IF THAT IS SO WHY ARE RUSSIA RUSHING TO BUILD HUNDREADS OF NEW UNDERGROUND BUNKERS ???? I had a link sent to me earlier QUOTING BARGAIN PRICES for a place inside a missile silo which has been converted into an underground bunker THEY WANTED £1O,OOO for me and i would be sharing this place with hundreads of people which made it sound like we were going to be crammed in like sardines.....it warned also that if i left it until the next allignments actually confirmed our WORST FEARS the prices could then double or even treble as by then people would be DESPERATE to escape the surface , i have never seen a really intense solar flare bombardment before so im not sure how bad it will be - this ad actually had FAMILYS SELLING THEIR HOMES for places in bunkers getting ready NOW not later

[RedeZra]

so much fuzz for a simple comet

[Operator]

Posted by Mutchie (here)
WELL IF THAT IS SO WHY ARE RUSSIA RUSHING TO BUILD HUNDREADS OF NEW UNDERGROUND BUNKERS ????

Well, at least on this point John Moore (http://www.thelibertyman.com/) was right .... from order to turn-key delivery having a bunker built from scratch
will at least take a year (only if design drawings are approved and ready). So this would mean that if they are in the know it's not going to happen soon.

I listened this morning to Ann Eller giving this presentation:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j5y1dUPfvuo

Given her credentials (she worked for J. Allen Hynek) I thought she was very credible ... until the point where she started to credit the Zeta Report.
Well anyway she apparently said earlier this year that with the first Japanese earthquake we're at step 7 out of 10 (Being 'only', but already, a 8.9 earthquake).

Step 8 will be even less pleasant and more devastating if she's right ...
But according to her schedule we still have a few steps ahead.

But then again her story involves the earth stop rotating, sun rising in the west, earth flipping on it's side, restoring position and then starts rotating again.
Also she claimed that the brown-dwarf was coming from the direction of the sun and we would be able to see it each day now ...
(Something coming for years now from the direction of the sun is physically impossible).

I know for decades something is coming, governments will lose their position and in my lifetime we will experience what looks like a mad-max world.
But most of the tales are too far out .... IMHO

[Carolin]

WOW!! What is that about $20,000 USD? There is always money to be made. Reminds me of an article I read online about Camper's prediction. Some guy in the States started a pet retreival business. He promised to look after the pets of the people who had experienced rapture......for a fee of course.

I don't know about you guys but I would rather die with my family than live amongst strangers like a sardine. Besides, I've always felt taken care of by "God, Sprit, The Universe" and if I was supposed to build a bunker I would have won the lottery

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Ktlight.....That was really depressing.......but never fear we create our own reality , and I'm not letting that one in.....LOL...Cheers Steve

[Mutchie]

now this could be ALL TRUE but i can understand WHY people might think she is nuts.... I believe something has happened to her but lets put that aside just for a moment, can you IMAGINE if all this HAS HAPPENED TO HER FOR REAL and the RIDICULE she must encounter both behind her back and to her face , you would need to be REALLY BRAVE TO GO PUBLIC but according to John Lear we humans are abducducted on a regular basis !

[jack]

Posted by bennycog (here)
how did it effect only one spot during the alignments? i would think it would effect more than one spot during an alignment.. the whole planet is aligned is it not?
is it that a certain point on the planet is closer to the comet or whatever is near the comet?
what countries or what has the ptb had to gain from the destruction that has heppened in these cetain places and now being partly blamed on the comet/surrounding entity..

The entire earth tilted on its axis, like a mini physical pole shift. The reverberations were said to have been regestiered all over the earth.

If it looks like a dog.. and barks like a dog... It might still be a duck. I think the next major alignment is september the 26th or something.. not sure if im accurate on that one but it rings a bell.

[Mutchie]

Yes its a hard life for a half loaf lol......the gentleman above is correct there is one due in september but there are 2 more earlier ones they say we are going to be BOMBARDED WITH SOLAR STORMS THEN MEGA QUAKES THEN WHEN THE POLE SHIFT HAPPENS well you have tsunamis and of course the power grid is down so we wont be able to log onto AVALON it sounds like living through it is going to be a nightmare ?????

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'll call your MMMS and raise you to enlightenment

[alxz]

I'd love to see coments on this one. But make up your own minds? no, im not sure.

[Calz]

Posted by Brodie75 (here)

Posted by DoubleHelix (here)

Posted by Brodie75 (here)
Knowledge is free, but it costs money to bring it to a large audiance.

I can appreciate the need to charge for seminars and events to keep the boat afloat and all the rest.

But what's the exact cost here, I'm under the impression the video conference is a broadcasted live skype conversation - Sure they have some big names which i do have respect for, but does that entitle them to charge a fee? if it we're lesser known people would there be a fee ? I think not.

I believe, but am not sure that Richard Hoagland charges a small fee. On top of that you are paying for
time spent researching and gathering of imformation. Having said that i think the price should
reflect the quality of both the speakers information and presentation (tech problems,audio).

Just got back after 3 weeks overseas.

At LAX feeding 2 kids at McDonalds cost $20 ... make up you own minds on value ...

[Calz]

Posted by Carolin (here)
HOAXLAND IS A SHILL

I guess if we believed government employees, past or present, we wouldn't be members of this forum.

I think that Leonid Elenin's website www.spaceobs.org is a shill also. I looked through the website briefly and couldn't find anything about the alignment dates. Has anybody else found anything credible on this website? Do you guys believe that Elenin has a 12, 989 year orbit?

Most every Camelot interview subject has been trashed by someone or another.

Bob Dean is such a "teddy bear" perhaps no one will dare say a discouraging word.

No doubt there are others.

Seems odd avalon/camelot members who are here (allegedly) because of such interviews have such negativity to heap upon them.

As I recall Hoagland was a member of the "press" which (officially) (last I checked) is not a government agency (altho they sure follow marching orders ... but going back what ... to the 60's when he was covering Nasa things were not so blatant?)

[Calz]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
so much fuzz for a simple comet

Jury is still out on this comet being so "simple" ... could well be ... if not then some extraordinary effort on behalf of the black op world is taking place.