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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Thanks SKIBADABOMSKI for posting that information. I feel like I've been living under a rock!! I thought it was just three earthquakes/alignment dates but you listed 22. Granted some of them were on the same date but different locations. When I have time I will go through each one on JPL.

    This just reaffirms my thinking that Elenin is up to no good. I don't know if it's a comet, brown drawf, or a spaceship. I really don't know anything about shaceships cause I've never seen one but I don't see how a spaceship's alignment would cause earthquakes...and I always thought they would be faster than that.

    The only thing we all know for sure is that the Universe is cyclical. Day follows night, spring follows winter, bla, bla, bla. So doesn't it make sense that what's going on is a natural phenomenon that earth has been through many times before. And I think we can all agree there is something definately going on.

    What I don't understand is why these so called experts are trying to "dumb us down".
    Life is what it is. How you perceive it creates your reality.

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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    glad to hear you are moving, take a look at this next to the China Quake...

    ET phone home...
    Take a look at what exactly ????? The link simply provides a map of part of Qinghai, what's supposed to be interesting here ?

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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    We get how many , 100 comets a year ( something like that??) why the focus on this one??

    Distraction, diversion??

    From what is the question....
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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Quote Posted by astrid (here)
    We get how many , 100 comets a year ( something like that??) why the focus on this one??

    Distraction, diversion??

    From what is the question....
    Good point(s).

    A comet should not have any bearing on earthquakes regardless of astrological configuration.

    Why would any astronomer (professional or hobbiest) be watching for that to begin with???

    Anyone remember when speculation on elenin first began??? If we do a little research on that we may be able to add a little fuel to the PSYOP option ...


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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Yep.... its starting to smell like a FALSE FLAG, to me anyways........

    i keep seeing more and more space things "reported",
    eg......




    while we are looking UP,
    what is happening down here??
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    These are my notes on what Richard C Hoagland said that I've sort of transcribed from the round table discussion which took place last night 26th June 2011. It's not exhaustive and I am not a brilliant transcriber but it's the best I could manage. Enjoy.

    Richard C Hoagland statement during the Project Camelot Roundtable

    There are two versions of orbital calculations for Elenin, one was calculated by JPL which defines the orbit as hyperbolic which means it's a one time visitor to our solar system and will never return.

    The other is the discoverer of Elenin, Mr Leonid Elenin who has calculated that the object is in
    an eliptical orbit of 13,000 years which is half of Earths Orbit around the Galatic centre.

    So that's interesting in itself, which is correct?

    At the end of July and the beginning of August Elenin is going to cross the orbit of the Earth
    at about 1.5 AU (astromonical unit, one unit being the distance from the Sun to the Earth. 1 AU
    is 93 Million Miles). Richard says on or about 2nd August.

    NASA has two satetelites in orbit one is Stereo A the other is Stereo B. On the 2nd August Elenin
    will pass close to Stereo B (4.5 Million miles from Stereo B) NASA plans to turn SB (Stereo B)
    around to face Elenin rather than the Sun which it does now so that it can get the data of the
    make up etc of Elenin.

    Elenin then comes only .482 AU away from the Sun on Sept 11th that not really possible
    which makes that is one of the first indications that this object may not be a normal object!

    On the 17th Oct it passes in front of the Earth at .232 AU which is only 22 million miles
    heading out into the solar system , it is not Nibiru or a brown dwarf.

    IF NOT FOR THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENS ON VERY INTERESTING TIMES, DATES & ANGLES WE WOULD NOT BE
    HAVING THIS ROUNDTABLE TODAY.

    Now things get really interesting because On Nov 8th as Elenin is moving out of the solar system
    but has not yet reached Mars another object which we have not spoken of yet called 2005 YU55 a
    so called Asteroid which is going to come closer to Earth than the Moon some 200 thousand miles
    behind us, so Elenin across our bow and YU55 across our stern! YU55 is something like 1500 feet
    across, it appears to pherical which is very strange for a little tiny object. Because everyones
    attention will be on Elenin this object will be unobserved. Number 55 is an illuminati number
    apparently? This object appears to be rotating very very slowly which is unusual for such a
    small body! they are saying it is rotating once every 20 hours! because of measurement errors
    it may not be rotationg at all, so what does that remind everyone of? maybe this object is
    not an asteriod at all and while everyones attention is on Elenin in front of us this object
    passes across our stern!

    On Nov 9th in the USA, FEMA is asking all broadcast owners to relinquish control of their TV
    Stations and networks for a FEMA Homeland security test, could we say that this is all somehow
    sychronised and we are being prepared for something that may not or may be taking place as this
    small object crosses our stern? we wont know the answer to that until Nov8/9th but Richard finds
    it very curious and worthy of attention and the fact that our attention is being diverted due
    to hype on Elenin?

    Position of Elenin on the 11th November (11-11-11) You can plot the position of Elenin, the Earth,
    Mercury and Venus you will see that they are all in perfect alignment in the Solar System. If you
    look at the Solar System edge on if you look at Earth in plane of the eliptic you will see that
    all except Mars are in tight aligment.

    Our conclusion at Enterprise Mission is that Elenin is not a comet or if it is, it is a comet
    that has been pacifically thrown into the inner Solar System in a precise celestial configuration
    in terms of timing, distances, orbit inclination, all parameters have been designed to
    fullfil some strange ritual observation in other words this is not some natural object or if it
    is it is under some kind of artificial control because the odds of all these coinicidences if you
    tally them all together they come out to be millions to one that all this could be happening by
    accident.

    So the hype about Elenin is interesting, its giving us clues that someone thinks this object is
    incredibly important and they are trying to allay positive feelings on the object and instead
    trying to instill overwhelming FEAR, they are trying to do this apparently to cover up some
    mission that whoever has directed this object into the inner Solar Sytem has for all of this and
    and all I can say it's going to be very intersting Fall (Autumn) and something actually very
    wonderful could be coming

    http://universallyaware.ning.com/for...s-elenin-round

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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    The One just spilled some nuggets from the tele conf ... enjoy:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Coming-Anomaly

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    Default Re: Elenin Researchers Explain Coming Anomaly

    Wow......fun times ahead
    People are so scared to believe in anything, for fear of being fooled, that they end up being fooled in to not believing.

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    Default Re: Elenin Researchers Explain Coming Anomaly

    13,000 year orbit nicely matches the "cycle".

    the spherical "asteroid" (craft???) was also of interest and will pass between the earth and moon (on current path).

    hmmmm ... those were the two things I took away from it with interest.

    thanks for spilling the nuggets ... no doubt those that could not afford will appreciate

    *** adding ***

    11/11/11 alignment is interesting as well ...
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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Mr Lucas states that the Norwegian spiral event was the 'Dark Star' interacting with the Sun, the blue beam being
    a plasma linkage with the Solar magnetic field...Hmmm, why then, does this not occur on a more frequent, or even
    Daily basis-if the 'Dark Star' is indeed close enough to the Solar system to initiate this interaction? I have difficulty with this
    assertion-Lucas has some interesting conclusions though, especially concerning the 3600 year cycle and Atlantis being a global
    civilization that was basically washed away from coastal settlements-the Ocean being 500 feet lower 13,000 years back. We will all get to see the truth
    of all the speculations and prognostications, it is just a matter of allowing time to pass-I support the wisdom of being prepared-of expecting the best
    but preparing for the worst, this is always a good course of action-you do not have to pay anyone to be aware of this.

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    Just finished watching the 4 hour presentation yesterday, sounds like it's all a big misdirect to me, if change is going to take place it's going to be something internal we can feel, people looking out to the skies may miss the subtle internal changes due to their focus being in the wrong place. If these comets are really ancient spacecraft like Hoagland suggests, he even says the most they'll likely do is eject atmospheric gases as it passes the earth putting on a nice lightshow, a firework display of sorts to symbolise the internal changes, which Carl Calleman adds coincides with the end of the 9th wave of the Mayan calendar in October.

    The atmospheric physicist Gerry McCormack has stated that if a comet approaches very close to the earth 'within it's magnetosphere it would probably be spectacular...the sky would go purple or green, particles from the comet would spiral down the lines of magnetic force, and it is likely that you would have amazing auroral displays and coloured streamers...', it's also possible comets this close would produce an audible hissing sound or appear to be a brilliant bright white with a beard of fire.

    It'll be interesting to see whether the YU55 comet will fit into this category of being able to produce these results, with it passing behind the earth will it be as dramatic as if it was passing in front of us? Will be interesting to find out and see what happens in the coming months, could be in for a real light show.

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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Well, I'll again try...

    Check this article out:

    Planetary Alignments and the Solar Capacitor - Things are heatin' up!

    ... where you'll find things such as:

    Quote The work of John H. Nelson is the second big dot to connect in understanding this process of how planetary alignments relate to solar activity and thus geomagnetic activity on Earth. Nelson was a shortwave radio researcher who worked for RCA (Radio Corporation of America) during the 1950s and 60s. He was tasked with finding a way to predict days when shortwave signals would be disrupted. (Remember this was before satellite communication, so there was a certain interest in maintaining these radio connections between the continents.) Even at this point, scientists had noticed the link between sunspot activity and the geomagnetic activity that affected shortwave radio transmissions, but they had no accurate means to predict when solar activity was likely to break out.

    ... and:

    Quote Nelson discovered that solar activity was more likely to occur during some conjunction, opposition or square between an inner and outer planet which he referred to as 'hard' angles. This was usually the initiating factor in the solar storms he observed and predicted. He also noted that other harmonics of these 'hard' angles served to increase solar activity as well. By 'harmonic' I mean taking 180 degrees and dividing it by integers. So angles like 180/2 = 90, 180/3 = 60, 180/4 = 45, 180/5 = 36 and so on... Even multiples of these harmonics such as 75 degrees (15 x 5) could play a role too. Why harmonics were important to this process is unclear and probably something Nelson was hoping future research would shed light on, but nonetheless these were the observations he made.


    Quote I think it is safe to say that in at least 90 percent of the cases Mercury is the trigger planet. The planets slower than Mercury can be all set up on a major pattern but a storm usually does not begin until Mercury moves into a hard angle with one of them, or as a harmonic to two that are already associated in a hard angle.


    ... the messenger...

    Soooo... a puny comet by itself, not much effect. BUT, a puny comet in alignment while the capacitor/condenser called solar system is ready to zap around... AND with a little help from HAARP derived technologies and there could be another crisis scheduled to be not let go to waste, i.e. to profit from...

    Simply because, thanks to the work of this Nelson guy and the likes of McCanney and Talbot; the electrical universe provides ample plausible deniability.

    Oh well... I tried.

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    Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.

    The dwarf star or brown dwarf, the Sun's binary companion in short, hasn't been ruled out at all! To the contrary!

    This article is about the clearest layman's terms arguments for the existence of such a stellar body:

    Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider

    Amongst other things, it clearly shows how a sheared off Oort cloud occurs. That is, no "Flying objects" beyond but a lot within.

    And lots of 'em flying objects when the brush off happens!

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.

    The dwarf star or brown dwarf, the Sun's binary companion in short, hasn't been ruled out at all! To the contrary!

    This article is about the clearest layman's terms arguments for the existence of such a stellar body:

    Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider

    Amongst other things, it clearly shows how a sheared off Oort cloud occurs. That is, no "Flying objects" beyond but a lot within.

    And lots of 'em flying objects when the brush off happens!
    Agreed.

    Bob Dean suggested 2016 or 2017 time frame correct???

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.
    Is that true ?

    There are many statements made that it would be coming from the south and Elenin comes at almost no angle with the ecliptic.

    Correct me if I'm wrong ... I don't claim to know ... just validating incoming info.

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    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.

    The dwarf star or brown dwarf, the Sun's binary companion in short, hasn't been ruled out at all! To the contrary!

    This article is about the clearest layman's terms arguments for the existence of such a stellar body:

    Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider

    Amongst other things, it clearly shows how a sheared off Oort cloud occurs. That is, no "Flying objects" beyond but a lot within.

    And lots of 'em flying objects when the brush off happens!
    Agreed.

    Bob Dean suggested 2016 or 2017 time frame correct???
    That sounds about right for the flying debris.

    The Sun's companion, however would start to be detectable from the southern hemisphere around this summer.

    One reason for the focus on doom and gloom with Elenin is that it triggers an atavic fear of catastrophies by comets from the distant past... and of course the same type of individuals are banking on it...
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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.
    Is that true ?

    There are many statements made that it would be coming from the south and Elenin comes at almost no angle with the ecliptic.

    Correct me if I'm wrong ... I don't claim to know ... just validating incoming info.
    From what I gathered, Elenin is also coming from (slightly) below the ecliptic; unless I am wrong in reading the JPL diagram: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...og=0;cad=0#orb

    .. and the reason why we don't see it yet but will in the Fall.

    ETA:

    Looking at that JPL Elenin orbit, it seems there's an alignment Saturn-Elenin-Mercury-Sun-Jupiter square Earth around July 6-9... good days for healers and lightworkers to practice...
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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    thank you all so much for all of your insights. i understand so much more after reading all of your posts. i really appreciate the effort that you have all collectively drawn here. i don't feel like such a uninformed 'nugget' now. thanks again.
    warmest regards, corson

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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    I think the problem with all this is that *NO - ONE*, and I mean *NO-ONE* knows for sure WHAT is going to happen.... It's all very exciting....because this is literally unprecedented in the universe. It has simply NOT HAPPENED BEFORE...and they're all watching us with baited breath to see how it progresses. We know that we will make it, but the question really is in how we will travel the path from here to there - THAT will be interesting.

    And most of the sleeping masses have simply NO idea WHATSOEVER what they are about to go through!

    On a sidenote... My inner guidance was always telling me that the end of this year would be VERY interesting and the real 2012 everyones been talking about - this was before I even knew ANYTHING about Elenin etc.... Never before has my guidance been proven SO RIGHT! I'm looking forward to the whole experience, but am yet to buy up on popcorn :D

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    Default Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Today We will Try For Our Last Picture of Comet Elenin For The Next Few Months
    •June 24, 2011 •

    Sydneystargazers is a astronomy site which for the last few months has been taking pictures of Elenin to prove that it is a comet and not a brown dwarf as some on the Internet may want you to believe.

    We have proved that Elenin is nothing more than a comet and will take one more picture opportunity of Elenin in a little while and make it the last shot of Elenin for the time being until the comet gets closer to the Sun later this year. When we start taking pictures of Elenin in a few months time we are hoping to have some great shots of this comet.

    So after today we will be focusing on more important issues such as the brightening supernova in M51.

    Update:

    Below is the latest picture of elenin at position 10h 37m 24s +7° 18′ 22″

    FOR PHOTOS PLEASE GO TO THIS LINK AS THEY HAVE ASKED THAT THEIR PHOTOS NOT TO BE RE-PRODUCED ON OTHER SITES. Scroll down to this article and view photos of Elenin.

    http://sydneystargazers.com/

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    Astronomer Tracking Instructions For The ELEnin Comet/Dwarf Star

    http://72.52.195.202/~goground/index.php?topic=116.0

    Many people are writing with requests for information on how to pinpoint the exact location of the ELEnin object that I believe to be a NASA Psyop hiding an approaching dwarf star (ATS Topic). This topic is all about providing every amateur astronomer the tools needed to point your telescope in the right direction for tracking what appears to be a mini solar system with multiple orbiting satellites now crossing the Leo Constellation. You must have Google Earth (download) installed on your computer that hopefully has sufficient capabilities to execute a file that holds all the ELE coordinates. Open your Google Earth program and hit 'View' then 'Explore' then 'Sky.'

    http://ubasti.cfa.harvard.edu/~cgi/R...d=c&o=CK10X010

    Now open the link and move down until you see the KML file link:

    http://ubasti.cfa.harvard.edu/~cgi/B...o=CK10X010&d=c

    Download the KML file to your computer. Now with Google Sky running execute the file. Some people have complained that their system cannot perform this function. You should be looking at a series of yellow pins showing the daily position of our ELE object like this:

    http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/ELE.jpg

    Zoom in carefully to note the pinned information shows the dates that came from the ELE coordinate data. Now you can pinpoint the exact location of this object, before heading out to use the telescope.

    ELEnin Current Position:

    http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2.../ELE472011.jpg

    Today our ELEnin object passes directly over 58 Leo in the direction of a straight line drawn between 58 Leo and 59 Leo above. Tomorrow (4/09/2011) this ELE object crosses that 58 Leo/59 Leo line directly in between these two reference points. This ELE dwarf star will be located directly below NGC 3423 on 4/17/2011 going into 4/18/2011. I will post an update picture when our object passes beyond the FOV of this one.
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    Updated picture: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ELE4242011.jpg

    Our references markers are 48 Leo below and 49 Leo above with the ELEnin object moving from left to right until about May 28, 2011 approaching 44 Leo on the right. The ELEnin object then begins backtracking over the same path, until reaching perigee on 9/11/2011 (not shown). The ELE object will pass directly between 48 Leo and 49 Leo on May 5, 2011 for this object to move within the Leo 48/49/44 triangle from May 5, 2011 to 6/19/2011, which in my opinion represents a very good time to capture one of the orbiting satellites orbiting outside the dwarf star proton cloud. The ELE object will appear to hover near motionless on approaching 44 Leo between 5/24/2011 and about 6/08/2011 just to the left of 44 Leo, before passing directly between 48 Leo and 49 Leo from the right on 6/19/2011.
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    Links:

    ELEnin JPL:http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...og=0;cad=1#cad

    http://poleshift.ning.com/

    http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topi...event-timeline

    http://dprogram.net/2008/05/21/as-am...lans-revealed/

    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...08/30oct_ftes/

    LINKS FIXED
    Last edited by loveandgratitude; 27th June 2011 at 10:17.

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