Living Off the Grid - Survival Techniques

[EsmaEverheart]

Well if it hits the fan and I have to go mobile, my dog is going with me. She could never survive on her own. She has her own backpack and can carry her own food, water and fist aid. As a matter fact she wears her packpack every time I take her for a walk now. She seems to think she looks beautiful wearing her packpack. lol!

[yiolas]

Posted by EsmaEverheart (here)
Well if it hits the fan and I have to go mobile, my dog is going with me. She could never survive on her own. She has her own backpack and can carry her own food, water and fist aid. As a matter fact she wears her packpack every time I take her for a walk now. She seems to think she looks beautiful wearing her packpack. lol!

Thank-you Esma, the backpack is a wonderful idea ! I have 3 little poochies and a cat as well. I would not dream taking off without them. It would be like leaving my quardian angels behind !Even the gataki follows us on our nightly walks. Dogs will carry their own weight and they can learn to eat just about anything. Besides, they are great as guards. They can smell/hear a moving object from hundreds of yards away plus they can keep your feet warm at night. LOL

[K626]

Excellent talk that from Matthew.

[5thElement]

One of the things that most people don't want to talk about is chronic medical conditions that require medication or regular medical treatment ( think heart conditions, dialysis, seizure disorders, insulin dependence). If you or your loved ones has a condition like this - you really need to do some planning. Some conditions will improve if the person improves their over all health (physcial, spiritual, emotional).

And one more unpleasant thought - dentistry without electicity :O

Maybe get those teeth checked out now

5th

[yiolas]

Hi 5th element,
I've thought about Dentistry as well. It's a great idea to get our teeth checked in the very near future. I've tried MMS on a bothersome tooth before and it does work. Use the 2 drop MMS to 10 drops citric acid/lemon juice solution with 1/2 cup water and rinse it in your mouth for 30 seconds.
You can also dip your tooth brush in the activated solution with 1/2 cup water and brush your teeth . The germs won't have a chance.

[K626]

The main thing I'd say is that you need to visualise exactly where off the grid you're going to go...and research that area ie food, water etc..Have a travel plan to get there fast (all forms of mass transport won't be working) so it needs to be no more than one days driving away ideally....The car needs to be ready and prepped with supplies in advance and personally I'd od a test run that is timed so you know the route.

[xbusymom]

I have been thinking about the contradiction of Live for Now- but -get prepared for the future (future scenario unknown but prepare for it anyway)... and just decided to put my energies into getting healthy, food/teeth/body/thoughts/no-tech living/get-out-of-the-rat-race living... that seems to be the way that everyone seems to be talking anyway, they are just calling it 'disaster preparedness'...

so why not just call it what it is... getting back to better living (put it in the POSITIVE status, not the NEGATIVE status)... ya know - make "living well" the goal instead of "doom plans"


just thinking out loud... I mean - what is your focus on???

[K626]

Posted by xbusymom (here)
I have been thinking about the contradiction of Live for Now- but -get prepared for the future (future scenario unknown but prepare for it anyway)... and just decided to put my energies into getting healthy, food/teeth/body/thoughts/no-tech living/get-out-of-the-rat-race living... that seems to be the way that everyone seems to be talking anyway, they are just calling it 'disaster preparedness'...

so why not just call it what it is... getting back to better living (put it in the POSITIVE status, not the NEGATIVE status)... ya know - make "living well" the goal instead of "doom plans"


just thinking out loud... I mean - what is your focus on???

Well if you're living in the countryside, that is already a massive advantage to surviva. People in the cities will be most at risk.

[yiolas]

Posted by xbusymom (here)
so why not just call it what it is... getting back to better living (put it in the POSITIVE status, not the NEGATIVE status)... ya know - make "living well" the goal instead of "doom plans"


just thinking out loud... I mean - what is your focus on???

Maybe we should rename the thread Living Off the Grid and Thriving ! It's a wonderfully positive intention. I think that the majority of us here on the forum have awakened enough to realize that our future lies in living in communion with the earth and its inhabitants. Our purpose therefore can be two-fold.
1- to re-learn how to live in harmony with nature.
2- To be able to protect ourselves until we reach that point. Unfortunately, the last 3 generations of people living in the industrialized world has had everything provided to them as far as the necessities of life are concerned. It's going to take a little time for us to learn how to be self sufficient. Until that time we will be vulnerable to every hick up in the present system. From the looks of things we better learn very fast.

Blessings,
Yiola

[xbusymom]

Posted by K626 (here)
. People in the cities will be most at risk.

yep, I know- cause I'm there- smack in the middle of the metroplex... and I cant see anyway around having to stay put for a least 1-2 more years... I was trying to figure out how to do this back-to-nature move more quickly, so i decided (instead of delayed action/extension of PLANS-which is quickly becoming just a mental daydream) that I would just start living AS THAT WAY from where I was...ya know - IN the NOW.

[starsmoonmtns]

Thank you Vidya for the information on the 'katadyn pocket' water filter! This is the next item on my list, excellent choice....
Lots of us may end up being mobile...
; )

Bill, When Technology Fails, looks like a must have too!

Like Y2K we can try and be as prepared as we want, but when it comes down to it, all u may be able to use is what you can carry on your back/pack or whatever.... nomadic wanderers comes to mind.... Sounds like an adventure!

Lets hope!
LOL

Great Thread!!

[Vidya Moksha]

I thought I had a good knife till I found this:
http://www.knivesplus.com/CM-BK7-BKT...ity-Knife.html
It is incredibly strong, and sharp and as the blade runs through the handle and it carries so much weight it is a useful and effective hammer. Actually I use this tool more as a wrecking bar and a hammer than I do a knife .


This is my favourite piece of kit. This machete is better than most small axes:

http://www.knifedealsplus.com/camillus/BK6.html

These are BECKER knives, BKT, HIGHLY recommended kit. They are MUCH bigger than they appear in the photos, these are not insignificant knives, but I always carry them in the hold when travelling by air and I have never been challenged. I used the machete for opening cocunuts in India

but dont forget a good sharpening stone, i carry one of these:

[Vidya Moksha]

great post Ross, he is so right eh? mmmm Ive been toying with going bush for a while now, why dont I?

Posted by Ross (here)
Hi all,
Check this dude out. He lives in Australia, he can live on anything in his enviroment.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Is4qyLD6Zc


Peace

[Ross]

Posted by Vidya Moksha (here)
great post Ross, he is so right eh? mmmm Ive been toying with going bush for a while now, why dont I?

Its a massive shift in perception to be honest, We are all so domesticated and soft due to the 'way we live'

This guy was bought up by his grandparents who had no power/phone, grew their own veges, made their own butter/cheese ect, He had a solid grounding in this way of living. Not sure if you saw how he ended up in a Mexican jail and had an 'experience'....this was the cataylst for how he now lives. He is incredibly in touch with all the 'natural energy' and is so at peace.

He is a beautiful human being.

Ross.

[Vidya Moksha]

Posted by Ross (here)
Its a massive shift in perception to be honest, We are all so domesticated and soft due to the 'way we live'

This guy was bought up by his grandparents who had no power/phone, grew their own veges, made their own butter/cheese ect, He had a solid grounding in this way of living. Not sure if you saw how he ended up in a Mexican jail and had an 'experience'....this was the cataylst for how he now lives. He is incredibly in touch with all the 'natural energy' and is so at peace.

He is a beautiful human being.

Ross.

I have watched much of his stuff on you tube now... another nudge for me I think... I was self sufficient (ish) for 7 years on my own farm before my own 'experience' took me off to India for 7 years, where I was outside of normal society, and freely moving and living (no news, net etc...wonderful space to be in.. NO FEAR lol) so its not new to me.. I am happy in nature and in the bush and I have spent long weeks in solitude.. I quite like the idea... I seem to be waiting for 'something' to happen before I finally head out.. here in this forum I see how easy it is to be sucked back into mainstream (even alternative mainstream) (and I have a job again ) but equally posts like your video I see as a nudge to be true to myself again take off..I have all the gear I need now thats one consolation. Im in NZ at the moment, thinking of staying here and going into the mountains,... but I must confess Oz appeals on some levels as well... we will see what the universe throws at me whilst I am planning something else..

[Ross]

Heya VM kia ora, Im a Kiwi...moved to OZ 3 yrs back, love it here in Queensland, I can grow food all year, solar, rain water, love it.

Peace to you

[Swanny]

Posted by Vidya Moksha (here)
I thought I had a good knife till I found this:
http://www.knivesplus.com/CM-BK7-BKT...ity-Knife.html
It is incredibly strong, and sharp and as the blade runs through the handle and it carries so much weight it is a useful and effective hammer. Actually I use this tool more as a wrecking bar and a hammer than I do a knife .

I like the look of that knife but can't get it in England

[Vidya Moksha]

Posted by Ross (here)
Heya VM kia ora, Im a Kiwi...moved to OZ 3 yrs back, love it here in Queensland, I can grow food all year, solar, rain water, love it.

Peace to you

so whats wrong with NZ then? all the kiwis seem to leave lol .. actually the top of the south is nice and golden bay is a great place..

but.. (whispers) there is a chance i will move to queensland to help set up a farmstead/ self sufficient place.. its a future possible for sure, but i will live in the moment, here in NZ, until something happens....

[Vidya Moksha]

Posted by Swanny (here)
I like the look of that knife but can't get it in England

i had it shipped to the UK from America.....

[Swanny]

I loved NZ even thought it was winter when I got there.
Had a week snowboarding at Bob's basin on the south island