Pane Andov; Our Sun becomes a Red Giant in 2012

[mojo]

Hi All,
Pane Andov's research and recent video series entitled, '2012 Equation Solved,' and posted in another thread by Calz_Avaretard is very interesting. He describes how crop circles that have been decoded point to an energy wave that will turn our sun into a Red Giant. Certainly this is information worth a follow up? Does anyone else agree that the crop circles support Pane Andov's theory that this will happen? And what of the photos and other information he mentions that NASA and TPTB already know this?

Here is a link to his web site and sun information.

http://www.paneandov.com/the-sun/

[Lord Sidious]

Go and do some astronomical study and you will find that it is not possible.
This is something that happens over a vast period, not a few years.

[Jake]

I more resonated with his descriptions of the crop circles being visual references to chi energy and chakra activation! I will go back and watch again. I do love this guy.

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Go and do some astronomical study and you will find that it is not possible.
This is something that happens over a vast period, not a few years.

He is suggesting that the Sun will react with the "energy wave" eminating from an explosion from the galactic center (allegedly hitting the Sun in December 2012).

Astrophysicists are not in agreement about everything by any stretch. Astronomy is similar to other sciences in that the "consensus" mainstream "peer reviewed" ideas are those funded by the "system". Those who come up with theories that don't conform loose their funding in many cases.

Programmed reality ... brought to us by the masters of illusion.

Anyway ... you could be correct Sid.

I would give pause before saying it is "not possible".

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Its to do the with Wallace Thorhill & The Electric Universe theory if memory serves me correct?

[Calz]

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
Its to do the with Wallace Thorhill & The Electric Universe theory if memory serves me correct?

Yes.

Electric Universe being one of the areas of disagreement.


*** adding ***


Touched on the Electric Universe in this thread but only as background information. All sorts of info on the net about it.


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...utside-dah-box

[Teakai]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Go and do some astronomical study and you will find that it is not possible.
This is something that happens over a vast period, not a few years.

Based on what theory of the sun, though, M'lord? That it is a magnet attracting its heat to its surface or that it is a raging ball of fire at its core?

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Teakai (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Go and do some astronomical study and you will find that it is not possible.
This is something that happens over a vast period, not a few years.

Based on what theory of the sun, though, M'lord? That it is a magnet attracting its heat to its surface or that it is a raging ball of fire at its core?

Going by what I have read over the years.
I have been interested in astronomy since before I went to school.
I have seen nothing that could suggest that a star can go from healthy to a red giant overnight.

[Teakai]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Going by what I have read over the years.
I have been interested in astronomy since before I went to school.
I have seen nothing that could suggest that a star can go from healthy to a red giant overnight.

That's why I was asking what theory you were using. The electric universe theory is relatively new. It holds the theory that the sun is attracting heat to it rather than emitting it from it's core.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Teakai (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Going by what I have read over the years.
I have been interested in astronomy since before I went to school.
I have seen nothing that could suggest that a star can go from healthy to a red giant overnight.

That's why I was asking what theory you were using. The electric universe theory is relatively new. It holds the theory that the sun is attracting heat to it rather than emitting it from it's core.

Even so, there is no info that could get a young star to red giant stage that fast.
As far as I know, no one has ever observed such a thing.
Theories aren't worth jack without some type of info that backs them.

[Teakai]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Even so, there is no info that could get a young star to red giant stage that fast.
As far as I know, no one has ever observed such a thing.
Theories aren't worth jack without some type of info that backs them.

Have you looked into the electric universe theory at all, M'lord? It's a much stronger theory than the one we have at the moment, and it explains how things work far better. It also explains why the dark spots on the sun's surface are cooler areas, which, if the sun were a mass of fiery gas they ought not exist at all, let alone be cooler.

This is a really interesting documentary about it if you're interested.
The sun part starts at the 33:20 mark if you don't fancy watching the whole thing.
http://vimeo.com/16256646

[mojo]

Hi All,
I wish Pane Andov was reading this thread and could help. The debate should really begin with the reason why our sun might possibly become a Red Giant. It has to do with the supposed energy wave. The wave is predicted for 2012, so maybe finding out if a wave exists should have been the starting point, sorry my bad. Pane seems to have data to suggest the wave is real, with photos posted. If that is the case maybe something is coming and the sun might be affected. Thanks again for any input and sorry if my focus wasn't very clear but I was thinking this would be important information to learn about.

[Calz]

Posted by mojo (here)
Hi All,
I wish Pane Andov was reading this thread and could help. The debate should really begin with the reason why our sun might possibly become a Red Giant. It has to do with the supposed energy wave. The wave is predicted for 2012, so maybe finding out if a wave exists should have been the starting point, sorry my bad. Pane seems to have data to suggest the wave is real, with photos posted. If that is the case maybe something is coming and the sun might be affected. Thanks again for any input and sorry if my focus wasn't very clear but I was thinking this would be important information to learn about.

Pane (as it came out in the thread with the vids) was a PA1 member and there was a link to a thread of his.

I could shoot him an email and see if would consider coming back as time permits?

Perhaps if MorningSong worked with him in the past (helping with e-book) or if anyone else knows him on a personal basis that might be preferrable.

[Calz]

Copying over from the other thread:

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by MorningSong (here)
I am a great fan of Pane's. I helped with translating his first e-book, a compilation of his threads on the Old Avalon. His presentations were/are a big part of my re-awakening process.

Thanks for posting his work.

Thank you MorningSong.

giovonni posted this on the "From Kerry's Blog" thread.

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
If anyone hasn't watched this Video i suggest you do in its entirety. Im listing 1 of the 8 videos, It Has great resonance with me, this guy knows something big. It has much relevence to this thread.

Note ~ Pane (astralwalker) was (is) a member of the original Project Avalon Forum
here's a link to his very popular thread ~
012 Nexus Event – Unknown Form of Energy comes our way!
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ght=nexus+2012

also a link to his e-book
2012 Equation Solved
http://www.scribd.com/doc/37714816/2012-Equation-Solved

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Teakai (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Going by what I have read over the years.
I have been interested in astronomy since before I went to school.
I have seen nothing that could suggest that a star can go from healthy to a red giant overnight.

That's why I was asking what theory you were using. The electric universe theory is relatively new. It holds the theory that the sun is attracting heat to it rather than emitting it from it's core.

Even so, there is no info that could get a young star to red giant stage that fast.
As far as I know, no one has ever observed such a thing.Theories aren't worth jack without some type of info that backs them.

Well, according to Pane anyway, he suggests otherwise.

Take the PDF link and consider page 5 (of 214). He suggests the "Chandra X-Ray Observatory" has "recorded stars increasing in size by the extreme influence of the energetic wave (from GC) and going through major changes; swelling in size and then ejecting the outer layer and becoming much smaller."

Cannot cut and paste from there so if nothing else have a look at that page.

Posted by phillipbbg (here)

Posted by markoid (here)
Calz - I am on dialup so downloading all of these is untenable. Do you (or anyone who watches these) remember which one has the info about Australia?
Thanks for the thread.

If you go to his web site you can download a PDF of the entire lecture set to read etc plus lots more info... here is the address:

http://www.paneandov.com/

and here is the link for the download... http://www.box.net/shared/1hvnjrfd26

Der sorry guys would help if I read every post.... sory for the duplication....

[The Truth Is In There]

i'm pretty sure what that crop circle depicts is that the magnetic field of the sun expands, not the sun itself. if the sun were to expand beyond the orbit of mercury what do you think would happen to all life on earth? everyting would be roasted and there's nothing that points in that direction, not in science, not in prophecy or religious scripture, not in crop circles & ET messages nor anywhere else. about the expanding magnetic field on the other hand we got a good deal of information from various sources. i believe that essentially that is what's going to trigger the "ascension". in fact, i think it's already happening and will just further increase in 2012.

[markoid]

I downloaded a vid of his spinning crop circles and wow! they are quite amazing. They are claimed to be for dna activation and they do seem have a nice effect on me personally. Closing the eyes after watching them is quite expansive.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FVtj_Hgo7uk

[Steven]

Pane Andov came to Avalon 1, under the nickname of Astralwalker, a couple years ago and made quite a popular thread presenting his theory. I was absolutly astonished to see people buying that, since it was filled up with false assumptions, like the Pluto's orbit, and remarkable simplistic interpretation of crop circles. Without even considering all the researches already done on crop circles from various different people.

The biggest mistake he does is jumping into conclusion regardless of what others have to say about 2012. He has a very good talent to make beautiful post filled up with images and make some interesting comments, but there are too many flaws in his theory.

Namaste, Steven

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Whatever the final outcome of the events we are experiencing, our power lies in the moment. Each NOW is all that we have, and it is enough.
We must awaken to our sovereignty and power and learn to resonate with our own truth. People seem quick to give away power, and real knowing (knowledge) to this or that authority, theory, or research. That is a limited paradigm and seems likely to be of little use. Awakened, we are able to understand the truth of our own situation, which may be entirely different from that of our friend or neighbor. This awakened state is really the only way we "prepare", in my opinion. thanks!

[WhiteFeather]

Hopefully the Mods/Admins can contact Bill/Kerry and get the ball rolling with an interview from Mr. Astralwalker himself. Would be a very interesting interview to say the least.