Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Teakai]

Posted by bitworm (here)
It's not the binoculars alone, it's the combination of the binoculars and the camera lens that's causing the effect. The blue object is a reflection from the original source, through the binoculars, to the lens of the camera and back onto the glass on the eyepiece side of the binoculars. The camera is recording the reflection that is on the eyepiece side of the binoculars.

That is really good reasoning, Bitworm. Gosh, that was like a revelation reading that. It never even occured to me.

So - that would make it a definite hoax then, right? Because he would have to know.

[bitworm]

Perhaps he is just easily entertained, much like this guy:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI

[Teakai]

Posted by bitworm (here)
Perhaps he is just easily entertained, much like this guy:

No. The double rainbow guy and I are easily entertained. (admittedly, I'm not quite as easy as the double rainbow guy)
But that blue moon guy went to heaps of effort to make those videos. I wonder what his motive is. Is he just a prankster or is he being paid. He seems to have quite a lot of money to throw about to please the requests of his viewers. Maybe he's being supplied with the equipment.

This could be something like with the crop circles - prove one a dud and then the rest are all duds by default.

[Malachi]

Posted by Teakai (here)

Posted by bitworm (here)
Perhaps he is just easily entertained, much like this guy:

No. The double rainbow guy and I are easily entertained. (admittedly, I'm not quite as easy as the double rainbow guy)
But that blue moon guy went to heaps of effort to make those videos. I wonder what his motive is. Is he just a prankster or is he being paid. He seems to have quite a lot of money to throw about to please the requests of his viewers. Maybe he's being supplied with the equipment.

This could be something like with the crop circles - prove one a dud and then the rest are all duds by default.

hello Teakai,

that's why I wrote earlier that these types are the biggest enemies of the UFO/new age community. we have to be very careful with the sources - I love Bill's work and I think he is a true and honest man - that's why I don't like to see the hoaxer's work here. this was one of my motive, when I registered, to debunk the EVIDENT hoaxes - but have to be careful with the language I use too. sometimes I can be rude, and thet's not good.

and by hoaxers I mean the Youtube uploders of course, not the Avalon members who make the posts here. this uploader did not let thru my comment under his liar video. and I was not even harsh. so that's it.

[Teakai]

Posted by Malachi (here)
hello Teakai,

that's why I wrote earlier that these types are the biggest enemies of the UFO/new age community. we have to be very careful with the sources - I love Bill's work and I think he is a true and honest man - that's why I don't like to see the hoaxer's work here. this was one of my motive, when I registered, to debunk the EVIDENT hoaxes - but have to be careful with the language I use too. sometimes I can be rude, and thet's not good.

and by hoaxers I mean the Youtube uploders of course, not the Avalon members who make the posts here. this uploader did not let thru my comment under his liar video. and I was not even harsh. so that's it.

I totally hear what you're saying, Malachi.

Only I have to be comfortable with my own understanding of why I'm thinking something to be a hoax.

Admittedly a lot of explanations do go over my head.

[nearing]

Posted by Mandala (here)
First of all, according to Hoagland, the man who supposedly "discovered" the planet must be a paid informant. Secondly the name Elenin does not equal ELE but adds up to be equal to or a code for "Horus".

Horus = Ra = Sun. This leads me back to my theory that Elenin is indeed a comet that is orbiting our Sun's sister star, the Brown Dwarf. We can see the comet with regular telescopes but we need an infrared telescope to see the Dwarf Star the comet is orbiting. (this is why NASA uses ELENIN's orbit to track the DS!) The comet is NOT the problem for us. The DS is. And we won't see it with our naked eye until it is upon us. But we have already felt its tug on us during every alignment it's had with us and another body (earthquakes, and volcanoes ensue).

A ship guided by ETs? Nah. The simpler explanation is most likely the true one. It's our binary partner coming in again. And it's happened over and over int he past, that's why we have legends and the Mayan calendar starting over at that point in time, because, indeed, human civilization will be 'rebooted' by the effects of this large body coming in so close to us.

Let's stop with the wild theories and stick to the simpler, natural ones.

We live in a binary system, people.

[nearing]

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
Mandala.. Hi

You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/23...a-Sanity-Check

Thank you for the article. I agree with what the author says about Hoagland!

If you keep the scenario I spell out above in mind while reading this article, you can see that my theory holds. It seems that it's the only idea they didn't consider!

Dwarf Star (unseen unless using infrared telescope) causing the earth changes during alignments WITH a comet (seen with telescopes and far too small to cause any problems for us)named ELENIN orbiting it.

Come on, this is an easy one to figure out.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Posted by Mandala (here)

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
Mandala.. Hi

You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/23...a-Sanity-Check

Good article, albeit sobering facts. I believe Kerry has gotten wind of it also and is not too happy.

Hi.
I guess she wouldn't be very happy, especially if there is any truth in what the article says.

[Operator]

Posted by nearing (here)

Let's stop with the wild theories and stick to the simpler, natural ones.

We live in a binary system, people.

I have no problems accepting that (it's even most likely) ... but if it would make things simpler ?
How would that change the whole Elenin case ?

[nearing]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by nearing (here)

Let's stop with the wild theories and stick to the simpler, natural ones.

We live in a binary system, people.

I have no problems accepting that (it's even most likely) ... but if it would make things simpler ?
How would that change the whole Elenin case ?

Everyone keeps talking about a spaceship or that the comet isn't big enough to perturb the Earth. Yadda.

It's not being steered, the comet ISN'T big enough to perturb us. But the Dwarf Star (not Elenin) is. Simpicity.

In other words, this isn't about a comet named Elenin. It's about a massive Dwarf Star coming our way.

[The Truth Is In There]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DUrjSPV5xt0

apparently the thing in the above video could also be venus but how about this?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sdmExXptoE0

[ktlight]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eba7zr4d0Zw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eba7z...embedded#at=46

[Odracir Oiravlac]

Just another lead indicating that someone knows something and that someone is only sharing his knowledge in the usual symbolic way. Perhaps someday we will be addressed directly about this very important subject, was is really out there and coming. Well some of us are not that blind anymore… or they come out with what they know or little by little we will go in.

[Tane Mahuta]

This how & why the invisible ones violate our free will. Universal law says that
"free will can not be violated." By hiding their stinking agenda out in the
open it validates them, "the invisble ones" to do to us whatever they want.

"You can do that to me!!!"(we humans)

"But oh, we can, because we informed you of our intentions."(ET). .

Wether we understand or not is of no consequence.

Good Post ktlight


TT

[toothpick]

Absolutely great video ktlight.
Another example of the ptb having a little giggle on us not so thilthy rich or rich but on your journey.
What are the Swiss trying to do putting the "Planet of the Crossng" on thier currency.
Maybe they just want to rub our faces with the fact that they have ancient knowledge and they kept it from us.
What gives these moral-less, pathetic, inbred, money lickers the right to hold anything over our heads.
Why would they put the "Planet of the Crossing" on such an obvious place, thier money?.
I think they are trying to hide in plain sight, it is thier usual MO.
Of course I,m afraid most people will just say, wow what a great picture on this new currencey.
ktlight, great find sister.

toothpick

[joedjemal]

Err, that's the orbit of Halley's comet I think. The more I see on this Nibiru thing the more I think it's disinformation. I have yet to see a single piece of hard evidence that elenin is anything more than a rather small comet that will have no effect on us whatsoever.

We have serious physical problems in the world that are leading to a collapse of our existing systems. I think all this stuff is designed to have people thinking about anything but the real culprit which is stupid, badly designed systems.

[YUPANQUI PUMA]

Thanks ktlight!!

I won't tell you, what eveybody in this forum know. However, what I want to tell you is that thanks to you and all the members of this fantastic forum, every single information that is posted, help me , and hopefully to everyone to get stronger and full of hope, despite all the heavy things that we already know.

Eveyday, I am more convinced that we are really strong and we can cope with the changes ahead of us.

Thank you, one more time!!

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
ATLANTIS Space Shuttle Launch - DEEP IMPACT ELEnin Connection

All just a big coincidence, in the movie "Deep Impact" released in 1997 we have the name E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event) as the name of the comet, Morgan Freeman acting as the black president.

Fast forward to 2011 and the fact that we now have Obama as an acting black president and NASA admitting comet ELEnin is apparently within our solar system.

The question is how can the mainstream media continue to keep the general populace in the dark.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UwOTp_ZYJeo

This is my last post on this forum...

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I've come to the conclusion that UrsuAdams is a complete disinfo agent.
Yet I truly believe he is a 33rd degree freemason.

Which has given me pause for thought.

I definitely see the game being played now. It's funny how this is the way I end up figuring it out...



What side are you on???

[Hervé]

From another thread:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Kronuise (here)
Sorry to burst a few bubbles but in the various clips there is a planet like shadow cast along the bottom of the screen that got a few excited, well look at this



You can quite clearly see what has caused it. Let’s not jump to conclusions here ...

Right on Kronuise!

Now,

I agree there is something afoot but let’s try and establish the facts and not opinions as fact.

... there's probably more going on in NYC, Washington DC, LA, London, Paris or Jerusalem than in that station... the crew there would sure enjoy the entertainment!

That said, if one goes to : http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html and looks at the legend, it says:

View from the communications radom to the north side of the base.

that's the white ball on legs in Kronuise's picture above.

Then, one would have to start at the right point in the video loop, i.e. when the date changes. That was around frame 30 something on the july 18 time-gap video.

Doing that, one could see -- if one were looking at the video instead of the pictures in one's mind -- that the progression of the shadows follow nicely from the one on the snow tracks. Regular, un-interrupted progression from a light source moving from right to left behind the camera while the stars circle in the sky.

Then, at day break, the dawn starts on the right side, stars still visible in the sky, elongated shadows of the poles holding the radom... let's see... what body could be opposite Sun and setting while the Sun is rising and able to cast shadows on a snow white ground while stars are visible in the sky?

... when was the Moon full lately?

When one starts the video at the beginning of the date/time of the previous day, one can also see that there is a switch of camera while the sun is still up; from color to B&W, within 10 minutes. Two slightly different angles close by to each other... two cameras in tandem under the same protective plexiglass bulb? That's my take.

What's disturbing is that such GooTube productions, by individuals who definitely seem to be under some kind of alter state of consciousness-- "Off their trolleys" as Bryn puts it, end up all over the place; starting many threads on many fora.

Sad state of discernment... very creative and entertaining though... but so is Jesse Ventura.