Confused ...where's the truth?

[Lefty Dave]

Greetings All
I've become confused about our future and the implications of our decisions...
On the one hand, everyone's talking about extinction level events right around the corner, gloom and doom solar disturbances, Nibiru, Elenin, Eris.....blah blah blah,
the sky is falling !!!!!The sky is falling !!!
On the other hand, the PTB, Elites, Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Club of Rome, everyone wants to take everything they can from the masses, and give it all to the rich...New World Order controls right out of "1984", UN domination of all aspects of life on the planet....so....who's right?
Why would anyone want absolute power when the world as we know it will end soon?
It just doesn't add up, and I wonder if others have also contemplated this.

Blessings to all

[Flash]

good point, why?

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Dave, the best take I have on the actions of TPTW is that they are of course not only psychopathic, but are so intoxicated with their (so called) "power" they have deluded themselves into believing they are clever enough to circumvent Universal Law.

Cheers,
Fred

[jackovesk]

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
Greetings All
I've become confused about our future and the implications of our decisions...
On the one hand, everyone's talking about extinction level events right around the corner, gloom and doom solar disturbances, Nibiru, Elenin, Eris.....blah blah blah,
the sky is falling !!!!!The sky is falling !!!
On the other hand, the PTB, Elites, Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Club of Rome, everyone wants to take everything they can from the masses, and give it all to the rich...New World Order controls right out of "1984", UN domination of all aspects of life on the planet....so....who's right?
Why would anyone want absolute power when the world as we know it will end soon?
It just doesn't add up, and I wonder if others have also contemplated this.

Blessings to all

You only need to follow your own Intuition & Truth

i.e. Does anyone here honestly believe the TPTW are going to be the Winners?

In my view they have already Lost, and they Know It..!

Unfortunately for Humanity, their not going to go away without a Fight!

Just like we all are not going to stop in our search for the Truth!

The Big difference is the TPTW Numbers are Diminishing & Our Numbers are growing exponentially by the second..!

In a Spiritual sense, humanity is being forced to 'Face Reality' and for the very 1st time, and for some they are having to stop looking outwards for the answers and are being forced to search deep within their own controlled paradigm for the answers...

Sometimes it does'nt feel like there is a Balance...

But TPTW Power is a 'False Dichotomy' of Fear whereas Humanities is based on Endless and Universal Truth...

As for...

gloom and doom solar disturbances, Nibiru, Elenin, Eris.....blah blah blah,
the sky is falling !!!!!The sky is falling !!!

One has to use Discernment and tend to the weeds in their own Garden of Truth...

[Darla Ken Pearce]

The Powers that Were feed off our fear. If they can distract us from regaining our own sense of self and powers of discernment their game continues. At least for awhile. This darkness has lasted too long and now the Earth is under Divine intervention. If each of us stay positive, turn off the brainwashing agenda coming through our own TV's and stay in the light of positive thoughts, we go a very long way towards sustaining light in the world. Without our fear, they cannot survive or thrive off of us any longer. Each of us can do our little bit, and stop feeding this ugly matrix if we put our thoughts on how we wish things to be. Through our own imagination, we can begin to create something lovely and worthwhile.

We must remember that we are creators and not any part of these dark destructive forces. We have been feeding them but we can stop doing this by refusing all negativity and thoughts that do not uplift us. If our thoughts are happy, we manifest happiness and bring it instead towards us instead of darkness. We do this by not dwelling in their darkness and rehashing evil deeds. When we do this we help sustain them.

Go instead for the light and bring it forth FIRST in your own mind. Then it can more easily manifest in the world around us. And so it is...

[Lefty Dave]

Thank you for your responses ...still I question...


Why would anyone want absolute power if the world as we know it will end soon?
It just doesn't add up, and I wonder if others have also contemplated this.

[Tarka the Duck]

Ooooo, I know exactly what you mean!
To speak personally, I have made a decision (could be wrong...) that I am going to follow my gut instinct not to follow (there's a lot of following going on...are you following this?) the Chicken Lickens. When it comes to the Doomsday scenarios, I find the ideas and thoughts bring expressed by the astronomers and astrophysicists etc on like Bautforum.com more sense to me. I am choosing to listen to those with a lot more experience and knowledge in such matters. Maybe I am in denial and looking for comfort but it certainly makes me feel better!! Maybe every single one of them (amateur and professional) have been 'got at' by the PTB...but that is a risk I am prepared to take for now. I am happy with that.

[craig mitchell]

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
Thank you for your responses ...still I question...


Why would anyone want absolute power if the world as we know it will end soon?
It just doesn't add up, and I wonder if others have also contemplated this.

"They" are imagining that if or when things get so bad on earth due to their machinations or outside intrusions by celestial bodies, ie planets, comets etc, then it'll be time to tuck their heads down into the underground facilities that we've purchased for them, or get gone off-world in the triangle type ships, or "jumproom" to wherever. They plan for our world to end, not theirs. Schemes within plots within....... well, you see, there are scenarios available in their deluded minds that are only available to them or somewhat to us if we're diligent in our researches. It's hard to encompass the whole damn thing! As for me, I know enough of the puzzle to connect the dots as in the old Etch-a-sketch game.

Remember that it's hard for rational people like yourself,and me on occasion ,to explain the workings of an irrational mind that has been bent for lifetimes.

Chin up Lefty Dave and Welcome to Avalon!

Regards, Craig

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
Thank you for your responses ...still I question...


Why would anyone want absolute power if the world as we know it will end soon?
It just doesn't add up, and I wonder if others have also contemplated this.

Because ''they'' are planning on the next system being even more controlling than this one.
But we got news for em.
And it is all bad for them.
I can't wait for the end of this world.
I even have a few cans of Jack Daniels and Cola waiting.

[Tony]

At the back of our minds we always knew the world was bonkers, now we know why.
Doesn't help does it? How do you fight against crazy logic?

Still there are more of us, and we are trying to be the good guys.
Their world is created on greed and hatred, it is bound to collapse as it has no pure bases.

I shall reincarnated into their midst and reek havoc for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Peace of Mind]

Perhaps they want you to believe in all the doom and gloom. If the masses were to focus on the world ending then I suspect a great deal of these people will perish simply because they brought into the idea. There is no question that a less populated world will be easier to control once the dust settles. Also, as I understand it…TPTW has the technology to bring forth catastrophes (earthquakes, tidal waves, storms, etc). All the hype will just make it easier for them to pull the trigger. However, we still have the power to divert any atrocities. Collectively…we can rise or fall. TPTW knows this all so well so they use mind tricks to influence you to do their bidding.

This is just from a different perspective and not so much my opinion…just another outlook on it all.

Peace

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
At the back of our minds we always knew the world was bonkers, now we know why.
Doesn't help does it? How do you fight against crazy logic?

Still there are more of us, and we are trying to be the good guys.
Their world is created on greed and hatred, it is bound to collapse as it has no pure bases.

I shall reincarnated into their midst and reek havoc for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It appears to me that I am incarnated here at this time with the skills I have purely to mess with them.
And I do.
As often as is possible.

[Anno]

This false logic pervades our community. Here are two more examples that puzzle me:

1. Gold and Silver

If cash money is going to be worthless and I have lots of gold and silver, why on earth would I want to sell it to you for cash money? Why would I buy advertising and sponsor 'truth' radio shows to do so? It's like swapping diamonds for pebbles at your own cost. Unless they're lying.

2. Fear Based Gurus

If energy flows where attention goes then why do some gurus constantly focus our attention on doom and fear and pedophile repto-satanists? By their own logic, they're essentially farming fear for 'the enemy' with every book or 'lecture' they sell. Why would they do that? Unless they're lying or working for the other side.

As for your example, they wouldn't. If they knew the world was going to end they'd already be in their bunkers or on their spaceships and we'd be sat here with no electricity or shops wondering wtf just happened. Now if you make your money selling bunkers and gold and seed banks, you'd surely want everyone to believe the end is nigh. And if you run the fear factory you'd not take action against these people because they're helping your cause by increasing fear. Knowingly or not, they're working for the other side.

As I like to keep reminding people, no matter how far back in history you look there are always people saying the end is next tuesday. They build up a following that gives them money and energy and nothing happens. "Oh, we umm, clearly intervened" they say and the date moves to next month. Jesus was an apocalyptic cult leader. Did he not say that he'd be back soon and when he did there'll be the end times of doom? He actually said it would happen while those alive at his time would still be alive, which ended up spawing a hedonistic christian cult who figured it already happened over a thousand years ago and the good and evil have already been separated. They're one of the earliest examples of 'free love' until the official church turned on them.

[onawah]

IMHO, after years of following Project Avalon, Project Camelot, and doing extensive reading elsewhere, plus some direct experiencing myself, TPTW are leaving our world now as most of them they cannot survive in the higher dimensional frequency the Earth is rapidly moving into. For the most part, only those who are willing to live in service to Life, Nature and others will be comfortable living here as Gaia moves into higher frequencies. TPTW may think they are winning right up until their defeat is staring them in the face, but their plan was insane from the beginning, and they will all have to face that before long.

( According to the Law of One, one can only be STS (service to self) up to 5D. So theoretically, some STS individuals could remain here, but I think they will not be allowed to cause much harm, and probably wouldn't find it very comfortable here, in any case... )

SOoooo.... It's graduation time! Those who aren't ready to pass the test will live elsewhere and continue with 3D experiencing. Living in underground facilities will not protect TPTW from the new energies. This Shift is not just happening on the surface of the planet, it's happening in the whole solar system.

There are still many Earth changes to weather for us who will be journeying on with Gaia, but our heightened consciousness, along with much help from volunteering higher dimensional beings and ETs, will enable us to avert the worst. planet-destroying scenarios. Many of them have incarnated here, others are helping from a distance or from their ships.They cannot do it all for us; they must obey Universal Law, but the Law of One informs us that in order to continue evolving spiritually, we must be in service to others at least 51%, and the service must actually HELP to count, so I think that these beings (who are certainly very intelligent), are capable of helping us in ways that will not cripple us, but will help us to grow. And I don't think they would be making these sacrifices if there was no hope for the planet!

Respected whistleblowers like Bob Dean, David Wilcock, & Steven Greer, among others, who tend to look at the whole picture, have arrived at similar conclusions.

Gaia is a unique, intelligent being herself, and as such, since she has requested help, is eligible to receive it. She will not be destroyed, but will heal from the devastation and will enter into a new Golden Age, similar to the one enjoyed in Atlantis for thousands of years.

There are a few channelers whose work I follow, Tyberonn at
http://www.earth-keeper.com/
and Suzy Ward at
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm
Their messages seem quite plausible to me, and they are very positive.

But in the final analysis, if truth seeking is your path, you have to find the information that resonates for you, and in the process, your discernment is refined through trial and error. It's a big puzzle with many pieces. We are definitely in the "crunch" now and for the next couple of years. The best thing we can do is stay positive and in the Light, and help others as we can. What you focus on becomes your reality, so I think it makes good sense to find the most positive theories you can that seem to make sense to you, and focus on those.

Namaste

[RedeZra]

I'm looking forward to 2013 ; )

those that get off on fear porn will have to get together and set another destruction date yet again

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
Greetings All
I've become confused about our future and the implications of our decisions...
On the one hand, everyone's talking about extinction level events right around the corner, gloom and doom solar disturbances, Nibiru, Elenin, Eris.....blah blah blah,
the sky is falling !!!!!The sky is falling !!!
On the other hand, the PTB, Elites, Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Club of Rome, everyone wants to take everything they can from the masses, and give it all to the rich...New World Order controls right out of "1984", UN domination of all aspects of life on the planet....so....who's right?
Why would anyone want absolute power when the world as we know it will end soon?
It just doesn't add up, and I wonder if others have also contemplated this.

Blessings to all

Hello Lefty

I can hear exactly what you are saying and i too have contemplated these questions for a long time and involved myself in extensive experimentation in thought and action. My conclusions are as follows and i will use analogy to describe it for you.

First Fact: Doom and Gloom , if you know history , has been happening since we can remember .. lets say 2000 years .. It is perpetrated by all sorts of factions / individuals .

Second fact unless you intend to live for 2000 years i doubt that any of the doom and gloom will ever really effect someone who is on track.

Analogy : 2 groups Group A called the Doomers and Group B the Possies

Both groups are set out to be in the world.

The Doomers have a very sad view of the world, they dont get much done and sit around eating crisps and are sad, they give birth to sad children and perpetuate more doom .., they dont have much to speak of because they are pessimistic in outlook .. before they can get something done someone states how it wont work or cannot believe in it being true so rather than to have faith and believe its safer just to sit and rot. This is their future time line.

The Possies on the other hand are Pro Active dreamers that are positive in nature. They tackle challenges readily and seek solutions to all that is in front of them, they have dreams of nice things and get off their bum and achieve them. not all come true but that dosent deter them from trying , they enjoy life knowing there is no sun without rain.. and never complain when the weather is cold or hot but rather be thankful they are alive. They give birth to good positive children and their time line is a good one. This positive movement then rubs off on those who want to be like them and prosper. Guess what happens in their world ? Good things.

Now lets say a Comet hits earth and destroys everything in sight.

Either way which group would you have preferred to be in ?

Now lets throw into the mix a further theory . Lets say no comet never comes, 2012 was like the Y2K BS and both groups are allowed to perpetuate sepperately. Which one in 100 years do you think would have made a better impact on their community and the planet ?

No matter what the stories are out there do your best to be in your own power and love life. You know when i was 12 years old i was having the time of my life ! right up to the age of 21 .. then i discovered the News .. then everything went sour for me ... why ? Because i believed the BS they were peddling .. My situation didnt change .. just my outlook and focus ..

The PTB have always perpetuated Doom and Gloom , and they will continue as long as we pay attention ..

I wake up every day and laugh now at the news .. i watch it for comedy relief. I find it amusing that people pay billions of dollars to watch BS of people dying , death , starvation, police brutality, war .. its totally hillarious that people give power to this .. I shake my head every day at Botox , Kardashians , Hollywood, Greed, War etc etc .. i look at it and wonder how people get by paying attention to these bundles of rubbish.... Then i get on my bike and go for a ride in the country side .. and i feel alive and well ..

Regardless of anything that " may " happen .. in the mean time im getting on with it .. and perhaps something positive i do just may be the difference it makes for all of us. Or maybe thats your job ... ?

Hugs my friend

N
N

[Hervé]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
I'm looking forward to 2013 ; )

those that get off on fear porn will have to get together and set another destruction date yet again

'am with you on that one! Spielberg, Steven, is working on at releasing a new movie for early 2013... that means he expects people to still be able to spend money and go to movie theatres to watch it... wise man I'd say.

[Teakai]

I'm thinking that the plan may be to distract people with the nwo agenda. When the crap goes down they hide out in their bunkers - and when the air clears out they come to rule their world.

At the same time I'm thinking that there are other forces that the bottom feeders have no control over that are coming into effect also. Possibly the next evolutionary leap awaits us all. Timer cells reacting to mystery particles from the sun and all that.
Which is possibly one of the reasons the bottom feeders have been trying to mess with our DNA with all their toxins.

That's where I'm at at the moment anyway

[Teakai]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
I'm looking forward to 2013 ; )

those that get off on fear porn will have to get together and set another destruction date yet again

There is nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[ulli]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)
I'm looking forward to 2013 ; )

those that get off on fear porn will have to get together and set another destruction date yet again

'am with you on that one! Spielberg, Steven, is working on at releasing a new movie for early 2013... that means he expects people to still be able to spend money and go to movie theatres to watch it... wise man I'd say.

And Apple are opening their biggest store ever, in NY, and signed a ten year lease.
It's no just a matter of "if the world were to end tomorrow, I'd still plant a tree today....
These are major investments, money, effort, creativity....
Expecting huge earnings.