Astrology as a "Know Yourself" tool

[Anno]

*puts his hand up*

Posted by Carmody (here)
[...]Astrology is a whole life mirror, of the most potent and relevant kind, on all levels.
[...]

Posted by ulli (here)
[...]in the wrong hands this data can be misused,
by one's enemies...[...]

How does this tie in with Free Will? Not that I'm 100% convinced Free Will exists, or at least not for every 'player'.

Would it be fair to see it as 'background settings' that determine the potential for 'the force' to be either with you, against you or not really caring? Some kind of universal randomisation factor that attempts to maintain balance by distributing the best available 'vibration of energy' that 'it' needs, rather than how 'we' want things to be?

Or is 'it' something else and Astrology is a mapping system to predict your base potential that would probably happen if you made no conscious choices (were 'asleep'), or were seeking to act in harmony with Dharma 'go with the flow' safely. Or indeed being naughty and attempting to manipulate situations to get a favourable outcome for your self or a 'client'.

If so, could Karma / Law of Attraction be seen as some kind of 'signature' you have that allows 'it' to alter your distribution of good/bad in any given experience to guide you away/from your situation allowing 'it' to distribute what 'it' needs where 'it' needs it to be for harmony to ensue?
Not in a personal way but sometimes you need an angel and sometimes you need a devil. Creation/Recreation, no such thing as death/hell etc etc.
Could this be measured or predicted by Astrology?

A little more complicated than I intended but you both inspired me with your similarly different outputs. ^_^

[ulli]

Posted by Anno (here)
*puts his hand up*

Posted by Carmody (here)
[...]Astrology is a whole life mirror, of the most potent and relevant kind, on all levels.
[...]

Posted by ulli (here)
[...]in the wrong hands this data can be misused,
by one's enemies...[...]

How does this tie in with Free Will? Not that I'm 100% convinced Free Will exists, or at least not for every 'player'.

Would it be fair to see it as 'background settings' that determine the potential for 'the force' to be either with you, against you or not really caring? Some kind of universal randomisation factor that attempts to maintain balance by distributing the best available 'vibration of energy' that 'it' needs, rather than how 'we' want things to be?

Or is 'it' something else and Astrology is a mapping system to predict your base potential that would probably happen if you made no conscious choices (were 'asleep'), or were seeking to act in harmony with Dharma 'go with the flow' safely. Or indeed being naughty and attempting to manipulate situations to get a favourable outcome for your self or a 'client'.

If so, could Karma / Law of Attraction be seen as some kind of 'signature' you have that allows 'it' to alter your distribution of good/bad in any given experience to guide you away/from your situation allowing 'it' to distribute what 'it' needs where 'it' needs it to be for harmony to ensue?
Not in a personal way but sometimes you need an angel and sometimes you need a devil. Creation/Recreation, no such thing as death/hell etc etc.
Could this be measured or predicted by Astrology?

A little more complicated than I intended but you both inspired me with your similarly different outputs. ^_^

if I were to consider you a problem, and I intended to harm you, and if I knew that tomorrow Mars up there in the sky would arrive at a spot from where he could form a right angle to your natal Saturn, and those exact coordiantes were known to me, I would know that you would be vulnerable on such a day, and use that moment of your weakness to launch an attack. This is how the combined knowledge of astrology and magic has been used against opponents, and this is why religious leaders want to keep this knowledge under wraps. It's like sending someone out to sea, knowing there is a storm coming, in the hope of getting rid of them. Of course the way the universe is set up, such an act brings with it severe karmic consequences, but evil people don't believe in karma, deluding themselves because some dark entity promised them protection. A purified person would never knowingly abuse this knowledge and be constantly vigilant against the temptation to do so.

[ulli]

Posted by cheez_2806 (here)
This is interesting~
my dob is 1990 June 28th on 2.45pm at china shanghai.

All I know now is I'm a cancer but I act like a Gemini sometimes...but mostly my overall personality is kinda like a Capricorn...

Hi Cheez
I recommend that you go to either one of these two links
http://www.new-astrology.com/
www.astro.com
and put in your data, and bring me back some of the info...
it would make my job so much easier...and that was the original idea, anyway, actually...
to get people to make use of these free online services...
I don't think I can do any more readings right now the way I did last week when I had a lot of time on my hands.

[modwiz]

Posted by Anno (here)
*puts his hand up*

Posted by Carmody (here)
[...]Astrology is a whole life mirror, of the most potent and relevant kind, on all levels.
[...]

Posted by ulli (here)
[...]in the wrong hands this data can be misused,
by one's enemies...[...]

How does this tie in with Free Will? Not that I'm 100% convinced Free Will exists, or at least not for every 'player'.

Would it be fair to see it as 'background settings' that determine the potential for 'the force' to be either with you, against you or not really caring? Some kind of universal randomisation factor that attempts to maintain balance by distributing the best available 'vibration of energy' that 'it' needs, rather than how 'we' want things to be?

Or is 'it' something else and Astrology is a mapping system to predict your base potential that would probably happen if you made no conscious choices (were 'asleep'), or were seeking to act in harmony with Dharma 'go with the flow' safely. Or indeed being naughty and attempting to manipulate situations to get a favourable outcome for your self or a 'client'.

If so, could Karma / Law of Attraction be seen as some kind of 'signature' you have that allows 'it' to alter your distribution of good/bad in any given experience to guide you away/from your situation allowing 'it' to distribute what 'it' needs where 'it' needs it to be for harmony to ensue?
Not in a personal way but sometimes you need an angel and sometimes you need a devil. Creation/Recreation, no such thing as death/hell etc etc.
Could this be measured or predicted by Astrology?

A little more complicated than I intended but you both inspired me with your similarly different outputs. ^_^

I forget whose quote it is but........."The stars influence, they do not compel". It is also a likely paraphrasing but may prove further assistance to Ulli's eloquent and thorough answer, as well as Carmody's.

[ulli]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
*puts his hand up*

Posted by Carmody (here)
[...]Astrology is a whole life mirror, of the most potent and relevant kind, on all levels.
[...]

Posted by ulli (here)
[...]in the wrong hands this data can be misused,
by one's enemies...[...]

How does this tie in with Free Will? Not that I'm 100% convinced Free Will exists, or at least not for every 'player'.

Would it be fair to see it as 'background settings' that determine the potential for 'the force' to be either with you, against you or not really caring? Some kind of universal randomisation factor that attempts to maintain balance by distributing the best available 'vibration of energy' that 'it' needs, rather than how 'we' want things to be?

Or is 'it' something else and Astrology is a mapping system to predict your base potential that would probably happen if you made no conscious choices (were 'asleep'), or were seeking to act in harmony with Dharma 'go with the flow' safely. Or indeed being naughty and attempting to manipulate situations to get a favourable outcome for your self or a 'client'.

If so, could Karma / Law of Attraction be seen as some kind of 'signature' you have that allows 'it' to alter your distribution of good/bad in any given experience to guide you away/from your situation allowing 'it' to distribute what 'it' needs where 'it' needs it to be for harmony to ensue?
Not in a personal way but sometimes you need an angel and sometimes you need a devil. Creation/Recreation, no such thing as death/hell etc etc.
Could this be measured or predicted by Astrology?

A little more complicated than I intended but you both inspired me with your similarly different outputs. ^_^

I forget whose quote it is but........."The stars influence, they do not compel". It is also a likely paraphrasing but may prove further assistance to Ulli's eloquent and thorough answer, as well as Carmody's.

That's right, Modwiz, and by not allowing the stars to compel us we excercise free will.

But often their influence seems so strong that one feels like under a spell...yet the choice to NOT act on that impulse is always there...

even when I feel like I'm glued to this old chair I still have the choice to get up and wash the dishes.

[Carmody]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
*puts his hand up*

Posted by Carmody (here)
[...]Astrology is a whole life mirror, of the most potent and relevant kind, on all levels.
[...]

Posted by ulli (here)
[...]in the wrong hands this data can be misused,
by one's enemies...[...]

How does this tie in with Free Will? Not that I'm 100% convinced Free Will exists, or at least not for every 'player'.

Would it be fair to see it as 'background settings' that determine the potential for 'the force' to be either with you, against you or not really caring? Some kind of universal randomisation factor that attempts to maintain balance by distributing the best available 'vibration of energy' that 'it' needs, rather than how 'we' want things to be?

Or is 'it' something else and Astrology is a mapping system to predict your base potential that would probably happen if you made no conscious choices (were 'asleep'), or were seeking to act in harmony with Dharma 'go with the flow' safely. Or indeed being naughty and attempting to manipulate situations to get a favourable outcome for your self or a 'client'.

If so, could Karma / Law of Attraction be seen as some kind of 'signature' you have that allows 'it' to alter your distribution of good/bad in any given experience to guide you away/from your situation allowing 'it' to distribute what 'it' needs where 'it' needs it to be for harmony to ensue?
Not in a personal way but sometimes you need an angel and sometimes you need a devil. Creation/Recreation, no such thing as death/hell etc etc.
Could this be measured or predicted by Astrology?

A little more complicated than I intended but you both inspired me with your similarly different outputs. ^_^

if I were to consider you a problem, and I intended to harm you, and if I knew that tomorrow Mars up there in the sky would arrive at a spot from where he could form a right angle to your natal Saturn, and those exact coordinates were known to me, I would know that you would be vulnerable on such a day, and use that moment of your weakness to launch an attack. This is how the combined knowledge of astrology and magic has been used against opponents, and this is why religious leaders want to keep this knowledge under wraps. It's like sending someone out to sea, knowing there is a storm coming, in the hope of getting rid of them. Of course the way the universe is set up, such an act brings with it severe karmic consequences, but evil people don't believe in karma, deluding themselves because some dark entity promised them protection. A purified person would never knowingly abuse this knowledge and be constantly vigilant against the temptation to do so.

A general note...take it for what you wish... or can deal with:

the way they get their protection, is in never returning to the light and re-combining with their oversoul. Basically... being permanently based in the single life they had as a 'human'. That tiny little thing called an ego..fights to stay alone and alive. Giving up eternity for the ego. How foolish can you get. But, hey..the power of honored self choice means you can hang yourself. And some do.

If they have been extremely evil, and they return to the light...they can look forward to having most of what they are being, er, well...turned into something akin to neutralized cosmic dust. Basically, any good parts they may have which are useful to their soul growth, those would be kept. Anything else would be..probably... reduced to a neutral nothing. Difficult lessons must be kept. But pure evil? No -That's not growth.

So yeah, they get what they were promised. Which is less than nothing. That is what one gets for being foolish enough to believe in that reflection of physical desires and fears.

I'm strong enough to pick them up (the lost ones, not the evil), via stepping inside of them (Juxtaposition and overlay in the physical body) and getting the vibration to them that they need..in order to settle down enough ---and return to the light.

[cheez_2806]

Sure no problems! thanks for the link! i think I skipped a little too far down in the reading....sorry~

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
*puts his hand up*

Posted by Carmody (here)
[...]Astrology is a whole life mirror, of the most potent and relevant kind, on all levels.
[...]

Posted by ulli (here)
[...]in the wrong hands this data can be misused,
by one's enemies...[...]

How does this tie in with Free Will? Not that I'm 100% convinced Free Will exists, or at least not for every 'player'.

Would it be fair to see it as 'background settings' that determine the potential for 'the force' to be either with you, against you or not really caring? Some kind of universal randomisation factor that attempts to maintain balance by distributing the best available 'vibration of energy' that 'it' needs, rather than how 'we' want things to be?

Or is 'it' something else and Astrology is a mapping system to predict your base potential that would probably happen if you made no conscious choices (were 'asleep'), or were seeking to act in harmony with Dharma 'go with the flow' safely. Or indeed being naughty and attempting to manipulate situations to get a favourable outcome for your self or a 'client'.

If so, could Karma / Law of Attraction be seen as some kind of 'signature' you have that allows 'it' to alter your distribution of good/bad in any given experience to guide you away/from your situation allowing 'it' to distribute what 'it' needs where 'it' needs it to be for harmony to ensue?
Not in a personal way but sometimes you need an angel and sometimes you need a devil. Creation/Recreation, no such thing as death/hell etc etc.
Could this be measured or predicted by Astrology?

A little more complicated than I intended but you both inspired me with your similarly different outputs. ^_^

if I were to consider you a problem, and I intended to harm you, and if I knew that tomorrow Mars up there in the sky would arrive at a spot from where he could form a right angle to your natal Saturn, and those exact coordinates were known to me, I would know that you would be vulnerable on such a day, and use that moment of your weakness to launch an attack. This is how the combined knowledge of astrology and magic has been used against opponents, and this is why religious leaders want to keep this knowledge under wraps. It's like sending someone out to sea, knowing there is a storm coming, in the hope of getting rid of them. Of course the way the universe is set up, such an act brings with it severe karmic consequences, but evil people don't believe in karma, deluding themselves because some dark entity promised them protection. A purified person would never knowingly abuse this knowledge and be constantly vigilant against the temptation to do so.

A general note...take it for what you wish... or can deal with:

the way they get their protection, is in never returning to the light and re-combining with their oversoul. Basically... being permanently based in the single life they had as a 'human'. That tiny little thing called an ego..fights to stay alone and alive. Giving up eternity for the ego. How foolish can you get. But, hey..the power of honored self choice means you can hang yourself. And some do.

If they have been extremely evil, and they return to the light...they can look forward to having most of what they are being, er, well...turned into something akin to neutralized cosmic dust. Basically, any good parts they may have which are useful to their soul growth, those would be kept. Anything else would be..probably... reduced to a neutral nothing. Difficult lessons must be kept. But pure evil? No -That's not growth.

So yeah, they get what they were promised. Which is less than nothing. That is what one gets for being foolish enough to believe in that reflection of physical desires and fears.

I'm strong enough to pick them up (the lost ones, not the evil), via stepping inside of them (Juxtaposition and overlay in the physical body) and getting the vibration to them that they need..in order to settle down enough ---and return to the light.

been busy lately. I've been waking up shaking like a leaf. After being awake, I mange to stop shaking.

I have a feeling that it is some of those 'difficult deaths', that I'm helping clear, those are almost coming through in the conscious state. I gave up dealing with the the conscious recall of doing such things in about 2004 or so, as it was just....way too much. The only way I can handle it consciously, is I have to be perfectly clear. Ie, down to my bones. No ego. Otherwise, eventually...breakdown is the result.

Point: Quite a few of you (you're on this site, aren't you?) are doing double duty as well. We used to talk about that on this site a bit more often.

For those who do not understand such things, what is it like, as thresholds go? Well..it is a bit like when as a child, you walked into a room and listened to older ones talk. What is that layer of them, that you did not understand? The whole process seemed confusing. For a while.

Then clues began to come in- and the shape of it began to unfold.

When one talks like this, about co-joined dimensionality...eventually someone steps in with similar stories and somehow slips in a note on how tricky it is to talk about such things openly.

At first.... you can feel like that kid, again.

[ulli]

It hurts me to think of you suffering like that, Carmody. Is there no end to this?
I must say, my waking up moments can do with some improvement, too.
If I have everything prepared for the next day, and plans are made, then it's more fun to wake up and start the day...
otherwise there is always some level of anxiety, for no reason that I can discern.

Point: Quite a few of you (you're on this site, aren't you?) are doing double duty as well. We used to talk about that on this site a bit more often.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Which site are you talking about? This thread?

[PurpleLama]

The burden you lift from another is NEVER as heavy for you as it was for the person you lifted it from. There is some cosmic principle in there somewhere. That's not to say what carmody describes isn't extremely vivid*. It's the polarity, the selfless nature of the action that gives it the power that it does. The evil dissolving at a certain point is why evil, STS, service-to-self, is referred to as "the path that is not."

What modwiz said, about influences, sounds very similar to many statements that came from Cayce.

* I tend to use the word "vivid" as a euphemism for intense and painful experience. The point being if you don't have the strength, you can't lift it.

[ulli]

@purple lama and Carmody...reading again your two posts above I do feel like that kid overhearing the adults talk, and beginning to slowly grow in understanding. Thank you so much for sharing what you did.
I have always had compulsions to help others, having four planets in the sixth house, but always worried about the law of no-interference. Yet only now am I becoming conscious of the deeper meaning of such action...when is it ok? Also reminded again of what Inelia said in her interview, being non analytical, not judging...have to learn to get my head and inner control freak out of the way...that job seems endless, but maybe hopefully the "bones" Carmody mentioned are getting nearer.
Anno's question about free will has just been answered for me.

[PurpleLama]

The non-interference clause is nullified when you pass the veil of forgetting in the process of physical incarnation, as in, whatever you were before you are in potential, if you can awaken it. In other words, you paid the price just by coming here in the first place, and through self cultivation you can pull it out here, so as carmody says 'all bets are off.' I realize what I refer to might not be just what you were making reference to.

[Carmody]

Posted by ulli (here)
It hurts me to think of you suffering like that, Carmody. Is there no end to this?
I must say, my waking up moments can do with some improvement, too.
If I have everything prepared for the next day, and plans are made, then it's more fun to wake up and start the day...
otherwise there is always some level of anxiety, for no reason that I can discern.

Point: Quite a few of you (you're on this site, aren't you?) are doing double duty as well. We used to talk about that on this site a bit more often.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Which site are you talking about? This thread?

We used to talk more about such things. For example 'I pick up and help lost souls in graveyards' as part of a sentence. Stated in a matter of fact kind of way.

This is all connected to astrology, astrology is connected to everything. But then again, everything is connected to everything. Only foolish humans try to herd things into separateness. ego issues, it be.



Capsule review:
Meet the colorful array of lost souls, earthbound spirits, and troubled (or troublemaking) entities that spirit wrangler and psychic clairvoyant Anson V. Gogh has encountered in her years of working with the dead. There’s Pool Hall Jenny, a personable and vivacious spirit who doesn’t want to leave the neon and the nightlife. Ida Mae, a powerful and magically skilled ghost, is determined to destroy her former daughter-in-law’s life. The chivalrous and polite Men in Gray are the spirits of Confederate soldiers awaiting their next orders.

In this fascinating collection of true ghost stories, Anson shares her most interesting, difficult, and unusual cases. Helping an escaped slave reunite with his family, finding justice for a young girl murdered in 1896, even crossing over a group of souls at Wal-Mart—it’s all in a day’s work. Wayward Spirits & Earthbound Souls also includes advice that readers (whether psychic or not) can use to help lost spirits cross over to the other side.

~~~~~

The problem being that when we speak on such things..it eventually works it's way into being an unbelievable statement by someone. Where the 'mind'..which is creationist...ventures into confusion, as we are riding the ragged edge of reality and it's literal formation. The body the edifice, the ego, it tends to loose it's footing. It is only a matter of time. Unless the ego is almost entirely sublimated, it drifts into madness. Since most people have their ego's intact and in control, the result is that the masses condemn this sort of level of honesty in communications.

For example, if I banish my ego and sublimate it into a near nothing and walk around naked and open like that..eventually it freaks people out. They can't handle it and try to lay hands on you to 'correct' this seen 'problem'. Bill Hicks made a joke about that. We receive these people into our midst, and then those who attempt to control the masses thank them... by killing them.

Double Duty: Incarnated and doing work concurrently on the Soul level.

Ulli's seen my horoscope.

When I was consciously recalling helping souls get free from difficult deaths..perhaps one of the reasons I could do it, was that for one..I have a fair amount of energy I can reach. Two, that I've lived some interesting lives with difficult deaths and choices, ones I remember. Three, that my Mars...Moon..and Venus are in a very particular alignment. One of near perfect balance. And that they are in Cancer, the great mother. The protector, the one who shelters.

Somewhere near 0.05 degrees of being exactly 1 degree apart, in exactly that spread and pattern.

Mars, the outer world, and Venus the inner world. With the moon, the emotions.. located at the point of balance, dead center. To be in excellent balance, exactly straddling the doorway. So is it no small wonder I can step inside and help people pass, as they die? It's written right into the astrology. As it is in my name. As it is in your given name, I would expect. Names mean something. Thus the meaning of the name, the one I have, in this case: I shelter the door, I protect it and those who approach it, I pull the smoke from the light or the forge and expose the light or fire of the forge.

This pattern, of course, all plays out in the astrology.

That I see no 'angels' (as some are wont to call them), and receive no help -is also interesting. I think that this might be a test of sorts for incarnating humans. After all, at some time, the training wheels must come off. Not all at once but for incarnating humans the training wheels must come off. Sooner or later, Humans will have to be dimensionally aware at all times and live this sort of life, straddled across both 3-d reality and that of a higher awareness. Simultaneously. It makes me scratch my head, all of that ...and my final conclusion is that I might be a crash test dummy for that coming scenario. After all, you can't just turn that sort of thing on in people, that's a recipe for disaster. You need to do some dry runs.

[Calz]

A lot of the OBE material talks about helping "lost souls" along their way.

Somewhat off-topic ... but in another thread it is suggested that "going to the light" after passing may not be the best answer implying that is part and parcel of what binds us to reincarnate here.

Any thoughts?

[Carmody]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
A lot of the OBE material talks about helping "lost souls" along their way.

Somewhat off-topic ... but in another thread it is suggested that "going to the light" after passing may not be the best answer implying that is part and parcel of what binds us to reincarnate here.

Any thoughts?

Potentially, that may be paranoia of the ego. It's all up for grabs, with regard to meaning.

One potential option is to completely sublimate your ego and open the mind ----all the way. Then ask yourself that question again.

When I helped McVeigh get out of this, as he was 'programmed'.... when I stepped inside of him while he was lying on that table being injected, and as he stepped into the afterlife and the truth of the matter came to him, the horror of his situation threatened to cause him to be lost into the realms of the nearby spirit world, where time and such is not linear so to speak. So he might create enough energy with his body's (ego) state of 'horror' to cause himself to go into a repeated cycle of running and freaking out. To become a wayward soul. Misshapen, damaged -lost. However, I was inside of him, with him, when he went. So, I calmed him with a big soul wrenching hug of love and peace and he manged to dissolve into the light. And that light, BTW, is bright, all encompassing, it permeates all. And it has a sound like no other.

Thus, you'd have to be able to handle all that and be able to handle the light and the sound of it..without wanting to step into such freedom. To remain behind without such a point of understanding crushing your incarnated spirit.

In the book above, Anson speaks on how it can be difficult for the beginning visionary/spiritualist to be able to be near the light, to be able to see it, without getting freaked out and have the yearning for that freedom...tear one apart.

I'm talking about being inside the horrific death and then being in the light - the energy of it fully permeating your entire being....And then..... back here. Repeatedly.

Then going to a work place and have people asking me 'what's new with you?'. "Oh, not much"..I says.

[ulli]

Carmody
So if you are a crash test dummy, at least you can wear a helmet.
I wonder what you would make of Barbados if you were to visit there.
Over the centuries many men, plantation owners as well as their slaves,
have died as alcoholics, rum being freely available,
And it is my firm belief that many are still roaming the island, in fact in huge numbers,
looking for bodies of the living, enciting them into drinking.

Not only have I been amazed at the excesses of the tourists there,
but also the incredible alcoholism of people who live there.
It was in Barbados that I first came to suspect that there was some reality to the idea of possession.
I have witnessed many strange things, seen shadowy beings hovering in tall trees, while totally sober.
Once I decided to go there to live I made a determined effort to stay away from alcohol,
knowing that there was no way to keep moderation.

Barbados' national flag has the trident on it, astrologiacally the symbol for Neptune, lord of the seas, ruler of Pisces and the 12th house, Neptune also rules all liquids, not just water but also oils, spirits, perfumes, and alcohol.

[Carmody]

Posted by ulli (here)
Carmody
So if you are a crash test dummy, at least you can wear a helmet.
I wonder what you would make of Barbados if you were to visit there.
Over the centuries many men, plantation owners as well as their slaves,
have died as alcoholics, rum being freely available,
And it is my firm belief that many are still roaming the island, in fact in huge numbers,
looking for bodies of the living, enciting them into drinking.

Not only have I been amazed at the excesses of the tourists there,
but also the incredible alcoholism of people who live there.
It was in Barbados that I first came to suspect that there was some reality to the idea of possession.
I have witnessed many strange things, seen shadowy beings hovering in tall trees, while totally sober.
Once I decided to go there to live I made a determined effort to stay away from alcohol,
knowing that there was no way to keep moderation.

Barbados' national flag has the trident on it, astrologiacally the symbol for Neptune, lord of the seas, ruler of Pisces and the 12th house, Neptune also rules all liquids, not just water but also oils, spirits, perfumes, and alcohol.

I just spoke with a priest the other day on this subject. A lot of his work involves being on a Ley line, where the barriers are weaker. (Can you say, England? I knew you could: the UK has a high population and has many ley lines running through it) We both affirmed that possession is far more common that most would have you think.

Not rampant by any means but more common than one in millions, for example. He made a great joke that took me a day to figure out. It was that he had a potential possession he had to deal with the other day. But in the end, it was just a divorce.

[ulli]

I was once assigned to watch a family member while on a binge, and was helpless when he marched straight to a place where the rum bottle had been hidden...
How could he have known?
Then the personality changes as every ten minutes another entity entered him, and leaving him again after he knocked back another drink...in between collapsing on his bed and demanding to be allowed to die...then sitting up, with a new determination ...
I swear the ghosts were standing in line, waiting to get inside him....
That whole island needs excorcising.

[Calz]

I have another "different" type of question since we seem to be having fun musing about things tonight.

Someone whose guidance had suggested to them that the energies of their natal chart were "not meant for them" somehow implying some sort of switch at birth.



Never heard anything even close to that. Anyone else???

I would think only the "higher self" or guidance could answer that one.

[ulli]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
I have another "different" type of question since we seem to be having fun musing about things tonight.

Someone whose guidance had suggested to them that the energies of their natal chart were "not meant for them" somehow implying [B]some sort of switch at

Never heard anything even close to that. Anyone else???

I would think only the "higher self" or guidance could answer that one.

Sounds either like a time travel fail, or else the "guidance" was dis-info misguidance.

Yet, I have known some Uranian/aquarians who consistantly managed to be in the wrong p,ace at the wrong time.

If it is for the soul to learn how to appreciate peace and harmony there is no better way than being slightly out of sync.