Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[stardustaquarion]

wow, now the andromedans are promoting fear porn, whatever next....I'll wait until Collier says something

In the meantime there has been no reports from any amateur astronomer about planet x, dwarf stars, etc., etc., ....

Until then I won't hold my breath

[teddyc1]

For what it's worth, MorningSong, the remarks from Amzer Zo did not seem all that cutting, really. Everyone is just contributing their opinions as we look for the truth.

By the way everyone, a new video here brings the Hopi prophecy together with Revelation 12.

The corresponding Web site is at http://seventheory.com/ and vid is below. I started watching from the 40min mark but the beginning may also be useful, I don't know.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7wfBUfDyXHk

[Snowbird]

Posted by astrid (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SzIZE6lOXlY

Not sure about this one.

Here is more info on Sanni Ceto. Mel interviewed her in 2009, including the first hour of his interview with her, ( click on the Right)

http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/20...0904-sceto.php

The probe concept does, however confer with something that Alex Collier said, i will see if i can dig out the exact clip in that, it was pretty interesting....

The video above that Astrid linked has extremely important information within. Commander Sanni Ceto is stating that Elenin is a remotely reptilian controlled craft and its trajectory has been altered by the Pleiadians and the Zetis. And, those reptilian crafts that are closely following Elenin, will not be allowed to enter our solar system. She also briefly mentioned at 4:45 minutes, that there has been an ongoing war in space. So, in essence, Elenin is nothing to worry about. What we need to be concerned about, is what is planned for us in the next few weeks/months.

Commander Sanni Ceto speaks to an audience in the video series below. She is very different, and I had to shift my opinion of her into neutral for a time after watching the video presentation below almost a year ago. She now appears to be very real. There are millions of highly unusual people on this Earth whose experiences seem very far out. I believe Sanni however.

Sanni Ceto (Hybrid E.T.) Important Message 1 of 4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0as5S_H2bHk

[Operator]

Posted by Snowbird (here)


..... And, those reptilian crafts that are closely following Elenin, will not be allowed to enter our solar system. ...

That's odd ... Elenin was already very far into our solar system, even inside the inner planet orbits .... Elenin was already inside our solar system for quite a while.

[Hervé]

Posted by greybeard (here)
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Posted by MorningSong (here)
Hey guys! Just ran across this! WOw!

Go to the link and take a look at additional links and info...research, research, research.

Elenin explodes - MASSIVE explosion DISINTEGRATES

In essence I agree with you. AmzerZo
Bills comments were from Oct 2010 and a lot has happened since then but essentially the advice is still good and appropriate.
However, I for one dont claim to have knowledge of Astrophysics and bring interesting (to me) videos to the table to be evaluated by those who are capable of properly evaluating the information.
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So the ordinary person like me has to consider all opinions in order to try to sort the wheat from the chaff-- no easy feat.
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Chris

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Indirectly related to this: please don't re-post YouTube videos with no comment, or with a simple statement like "Hey, Guys, look at this". I and many others will never watch a video unless someone tells me why I should spend the time. Please be smart and caring enough to summarize in your own words what the added value is.

Added value is what it's all about. If you're NOT adding value, then just keep reading. Though some of them are hard to find, Avalon has over 6,000 threads which contain enough good material to keep us all busy for a very long time.

My best wishes to all - Bill

Although as long a PA veteran as you are, MorningSong fell for it , hook, line and sinker... more miffed about that than anything else... I think. Otherwise, if you check this thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...full=1#post767, you'll realize that MS is not entirely ignorant of how this solar system is configured.

RH is still maintaining he is right for example.

Hoagland...well there is this one:

Posted by kathymarie (here)
Didn't Richard Hoagland also say Hale-Bopp was under intelligent control several years ago....just as he has said Elenin is?

I think the guy is getting desperate and grabbing at floating, soaked straws... in lieu of a life-saver.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
[...]
Really intelligent analysis is the answer. But that takes time, and care, and real research. The insiders count on you not to bother to do all that.

Posted by greybeard (here)
Till recently Richard Hogland was considered by Bill et all to be an expert in the field.

Another reminder:

DisclaimerAbout researchers and whistleblowers :We, Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan, do not necessarily agree with or endorse all of the views presented here. What Camelot is about is the investigation into the mysteries that surround us. We are all, in a sense, investigators of our world. And while we, as individuals, may not agree with everything presented on our site, we fully support freedom of thought and speech as well as the Quest for truth. 31 December 2008

[Calz]

I am an amused neutral spectator in the elenin circus ... part time amateur hobbist reporter and supplier of links ...

(bullet proof vest obvious there ... ???)


We have an amateur astronomer group providing the *only* photos so far??? Is that true???

We have a NASA (never a stright answer) person with verbal confirmation. Okay ... perhaps a 2nd source.

Any other confirmation of a breakup or disintegration???

Disintegration ... if a craft rather than an ordinary comet ... could mean *other* things.

I would think with all the hoopla regarding elenin if it had actually broken up there would be more sources confirming this already. Are not many folk following this???

Unless you are a member of that astronomer group who either witnessed it first hand and know it to be valid ... or at a minimum know the people who supplied the images (or NASA employee) ... I don't think the verdict is yet here.

No vested interest. No pounding of chests or sulking in (jokingly) shame at the mortal sin about having a wrong assessment of the vast assortment of illusions we are provided on a regular basis.

Supposedly the sats will be able to capture a clear image again within a day or two.

Til then ...

[jcocks]

Look, regardless of what is happening with Elenin, things seem to be speeding up quite a bit..... It could all be for nothing, but I highly doubt it.

[Hervé]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
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We have an amateur astronomer group providing the *only* photos so far??? Is that true???

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All right, Calz... let's pull out some abacus and do some counting...

From: http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm

C/2010 X1 Elenin
2011 Aug 29.38UT
Left: 10x10second exposures. C11 SCT and Starlight Express MX7c CCD imager. Field of View 15' high x10' wide
Right: Animation of 5 images taken Aug 19,22,23,27,29 displaying the nucleus in the process of disintegrating.

ONE
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From: http://sydneystargazers.com/

The Death of Comet Elenin Part 1

And so it begins: The Death of Comet Elenin – Part 2•August 31, 2011 • 18 Comments
We located an earlier image of comet Elenin from and we have processed the image to highlight what we believe is the initial breakup of Elenin a week ago.
The three white specks in our picture are what we believe to have been the initial broken pieces of Elenin’s nucleus a week ago. If our image is correct, this means that Elenin’s nucleus broke up initially into 3 pieces. Since then it appears those pieces have broken up into smaller pieces.
We are still analyzing this picture further to confirm it shows the breakup.

TWO
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From: http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/

Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Comet Elenin in STEREO H1B (August 25 and 26)




Elenin passes through the image field of view of the STEREO H1 Behind imager on August 25. Click to embiggen. Image processed from NASA/STEREO raw images using ImageJ. Inverted image, dark lines and weird loopy bits are imaging artifacts.Elenin passes through the image field of view of the STEREO H1 Behind imager on August 26. Click to embiggen. Image processed from NASA/STEREO raw images using ImageJ. Inverted image, dark lines and weird loopy bits are imaging artifacts.
Once again, as with the previous posts I've zoomed and cropped these images of Comet Elenin from the STEREO H1B imager. There are asteroids on the 25 and 26th (although only one is obvious on the 26th). Here's the AVI animation of the August 25 images (1 Mb) and the AVI animation of the August 26 images (1 Mb).



I've plotted the intensity of comet Elenin images relative to a reference star (indicated on the image from the 26th) from the 18th to the 26th. I have the data from the 27th, but the comet passes over a bright star and I can't separate out the brightness of the comet from the star.

There is some dropped points on the 23rd when the imaging arefact of Mercury passed over the comet and reference star images. Again, click to embiggen.

As I've stated before, on calibrated images the comet has faded over 80% since the 19th, however, using this method of normalising (compared to how I did it on the calibrated images earlier) the drop is more like 70%.

Again, we have to factor in that it is further away from the H1B camera despite being closer to the Sun. I have not explicitly tried to calculate magnitudes, especially since Elenin is an extended source.

Anyway, important things to notice: The Coronal Mass Ejection that did all the fancy tail twirling hit between two flare-ups of the comet. The second peak (coming after the arrow showing where the peak CME hit, comes after the CME has washed over it (ie the big peak is not an artefact of the CME brightness adding to the comet, it genuinely gets brighter). The next peak is an aretfact form the comet crossing in from of a star, but the peak after that, although it crosses a star early, is probably also a flare.

After this, the intensity of the comet drops quite a bit; this corresponds to Michael Mattiazzo's August 22 UT image showing a big drop in intensity and Rob Kauffmans images showing the same drop on August 23 UT. After the 23rd there is another big drop that recovers slightly by the 26th.



Images from STEREO on the 27th (image right) don't show the same nucleus elongation that you see in Michaels images on the 27th, but with the STEREO images it's like looking through a pair of 7x30 binoculars compared to the telescopic images. I don't expect to see much until later images.


# posted by Ian Musgrave @ 10:22 PM

THREE
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If one includes NASA... well, that may be 3 1/2...

IMO, it helps to read and understand previous posts instead of jumping in and unwittingly further disinfo agenda like this one:

August 30, 2011
IS ELENIN BREAKING UP?? COMMENT FROM RICHARD C. HOAGLAND - EXCLUSIVE
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We have NO actual images of this "disintegration," only Internet claims -- endlessly repeated (of course) ....

Guess who is doing some endless repeating with no actual data... only claims?

But accusing others of doing so... hmmmm, isn't that some familiar behaviour?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on my travels ...

Russian Special News Report NIBIRU 100% Confirmed

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aVlhOAiJZ5U

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aVlhO...&feature=share

viking

[G.A]

Some of the comments from youtube mention that this broadcast is from a spoof network "like The Onion from ukraine". It also seems like a lot of theory clips cut and pasted together. I don't see the 100% proof in this.
Thanks for the video

[Dawn]

I ran across this today (9-2-11). Very interesting.

Richard C. Hoagland Update on Elenin

Posted by David Kaye on August 29, 2011 at 12:04pm in Current News/Events
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Important update on Elenin from Richard C. Hoagland

Note: there is a disinfo campaign going on to spread the word that Elenin is disintegrating... this is not true!!!

From Richard C. Hoagland www.enterprisemission.com


"Stereo-B is one of two unmanned spacecraft NASA launched several years ago to study solar phenomenon; it is currently trailing about 90 degrees BEHIND the Earth ... just outside the Earth's solar orbit. Its companion spacecraft, Stereo-A, is about 90 degrees AHEAD of the Earth, slightly inside its orbit.

Elenin itself was at the orbit of Venus, and visually passing close to the Sun as seen from the vantage point of Stereo-B, when these images were taken.

This close (physically) to the Sun, Elenin is already strongly interacting with the "solar wind" -- the very low-density stream of highly-charged particles (mostly protons and electrons -- "solar plasma"), ejected at immense speed from the Sun's surface (and seen during total solar eclipses as "the solar corona"). The solar wind usually blows outward through the solar system at an average speed of ~500 miles per second!

Occassional CMEs (coronal mass ejections) can dramatically enhance the local density and speed of the solar wind, which can then interact with comets in very visible and spectacular ways ... usually greatly distorting their normally-straight "ion tails" (created by gases evaporating off the comet) into vivid "kinks" ... "corkscrews" ... and even "90-degree bends."

The attached NASA images reveals what happened to Elenin as a sudden CME interacted with it, just a few days ago.

It shows that AROUND the actual "nucleus" of Elenin suddenly appeared a stunning GEOMETRIC shape ... created by some kind of "force field." This field, interacting with the stream of charged protons and electrons in the CME, made this Elenin "field" suddenly, strikingly visible--

As an unmistakable, 3-D TETRAHEDRON!

This precise geometric shape is total confirmation of, and entirely consistent with, all the "19.5's" I've been analyzing over the past several months ... re Elenin's ~13,000-year orbital trajectory into the inner solar system!

The sudden visibility of this immense "geometric structure" (which is obviously NOT a "physical object," but only a "geometric field of force ... over 300,000 miles across (!) ... seen strongly interacting with the highly charged solar wind") is only possible because Elenin is VERY close to the Sun itself now, where the density of the solar wind is high enough to make this "structure" briefly visible, especially during the density enhancement of a CME ....

Needless to say, such a "tetrahedral force field," coupled with Elenin's "tetrahedrally-defined" orbital parameters, removes ALL remaining scientific doubt that Elenin is NOT "natural" -- but is, in fact, an Artificial Object (some kind of "ship")--

Sent into the inner solar system ~13,000 years ago (our model) ... on some kind of "directed interplanetary Mission."

It is, as Arthur C. Clarke wrote so many years ago, "something Wonderful ...." possibly (as I said on "Coast" the last time I was on ...) some kind of "ark" or "time capsule" ... sent to us at this crucially-important time to give us the means to (literally) "save the Earth."

Obviously, this latest discovery increases the urgency to get as many "hams and radio astronomers as possible" involved, to see if there are actual radio (or laser) TRANSMISSIONS currently coming from this object!

The future is about to get VERY, VERY interesting in the next few days and weeks ....

Here (below) is the direct link to the NASA Stereo-B Elenin video footage, posted on Leonid Elenin's official website."

http://spaceobs.org/en/2011/08/24/in...-comet-elenin-...

[Maia Gabrial]

Sounds like Russia is giving their own people the doom and gloom scenario, too. But even they know how much NASA lies to us!
At least they're telling their people about it....
Good find, Viking.

[WhiteFeather]

Interesting Video Viking, Thanks. Personally Im not buying into the catastrophe scenario i think it will be the opposite IMHO. ~Something wonderful's gonna happen, What - Whats gonna happen..........something wonderful.~ My God Its Full Of Stars

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZzNu9wUO-YM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aPR6XTOEhMw

[norman]

If this vid really is from "the onion" it's definately a spoof.

I fell hook line and sinker for one of their's that was a spoof US congress session where key words of the speaker were blanked out due to implied clasification as too hot to tell the people.

Turned out to be completely fake. Had me fooled for a couple of days though.

[Maia Gabrial]

So, if there is something in Elenin that will help us save Earth, I sure hope that TPTW don't get ahold of it first....

[ghostrider]

could the powers that be - use eleinin's approach as a tool and strike the earth with weather/earthquake weapons and make everyone afraid of elenin because it's approach could mean something good ??? we will soon find out 23 days and it will align between us and the sun, we may or may not have huge earthquakes that day...... they say elenin has broken up but I saw a huge planet sized object at 1 am last night in the eastern sky, with a long tail...... nothing else was visible NO OTHER STARS could I see from my city.

[Maia Gabrial]

That's what I'm saying, Ghostrider. Let's wait and see what happens. The next alignment will show us something good, I hope....

[Calz]

After thread merge deleting what would appear as a duplicate post.

[GK76]

Wait and see looks like the best approach. Although I wish many had decided that a long time ago, I've seen so many guesses as to it's origin or purpose, it's not funny anymore. Thankfully not long now to find out it's true intentions. Don't get me wrong, the speculation and science has been fun (occasionally), but it would be nice for people to work faster towards the inevitable conclusion... good or bad, what the hell can we do about it anyway?

[greybeard]

Marshal masters interesting and very full web page on Elenin
Im none the wiser though.
Is it or isent it still a "threat"????
Or the debris resulting from possible disintegration????

Chris
http://yowusa.com/planetx/2011/planetx-2011-09a/1.shtml