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    Default Re:Can Elenin be seen during the day with a cellphone photo?

    I took this photo today at noon with my iphone 4 + magnetic film (DYI Infrared Film) over the lens. I don't see anything but the sun there.


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    Default Re:Can Elenin be seen during the day with a cellphone photo?

    Probably Venus?

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    Default Re: Comet Elenin - Connections with 911, strange coincidences and the mayan calendar

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by gandra99 (here)
    Quote Richard C. Hoagland - Comet Elenin as a Time Capsule, Norway Attack & The Messengers of Horus
    July 25, 2011
    [...]

    Could it be that Elenin is a time capsule sent by our ancestors containing important information crucial for this time?

    [...]
    http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-110726.php
    Again, that would have been 1 million years ago...

    I am not sure what inspires Hoagland but I think he is losing it.
    http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/201...-comet-elenin/

    This is a worthwhile read by a real astrophysicist calling out the claims of Hoagland, and a useful reference on the problem with using numerology to assign importance to any celestial event.
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    Default Re:Can Elenin be seen during the day with a cellphone photo?

    Why OH! WHY!?...do people keep on pointing cheap optics at bright light sources and getting whacked out about all the artifacts that inevitably produces?

    PLEASE!... look up a decent source of information ( like the focal encyclopedia of photography ) and pay close attention to "internal refraction" and "internal reflection"

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    I recall that the HD images of the probe B Stereo summers have not yet disclosed ???

    2011 SEP 11

    On 9/11 Elenin will make it’s closest approach to the SUN, the distance between Elenin and the sun at this time is apprx 44.804.792 miles or 72.090.910 kilometers.

    2011 SEP 12

    The last Full Moon before Elenin will align with earth several times, enjoy it because it may be your last Full Moon !

    2011 SEP 21-22

    Perfect Alignment between Earth Elenin and Venus with for the First time Elenin in between 2 planet when the alignment happens !

    2011 SEP 26-27&28

    Elenin will pass between the Earth and the Sun for 3 days, this could be the Three days of Darkness in the Bible !

    2011 SEP 27

    Perfect alignement Elenin, Earth and Sun, Elenin will be in between the Earth and the Sun ! This is the same alignement as the one that triggered the Japan Earthquake on March 11 2011, only this time Elenin much closer to Earth than in March during the Japan Quake ! So the first of several massive earthquakes will happen around or on September 25th 2011. By this time, if Elenin is the long awaited Niburu or planet X we will have seen signs already, the changing magnetic field could kill millions of animals like fish and birds just like last January 2011. Note, that this is the first that Elenin is in between the Earth and Sun when an alignement takes place ! At this moment the distance between Elenin and the Earth is 38.297.872 miles or just 61.621.276 kilometers.

    2011 SEP 26-27

    Maybe an even worse but not “Perfect” Alignement between Elenin, Earth, Sun and Mercury this time, the same as on March 11th 2011 and Sep 24th only Mercury is in the picture to, Elenin is at its closest point to earth yet. This alignment could trigger the largest earthquake in the history of mankind ! Remember the Bible talking about a large earthquake moving mountains and stuff …

    This could be it if... It wasn’t 2 days ago...

    The distance between Elenin and the Earth: 35.416.236 miles or 56.984.723 kilometers.

    2011 OCT 12 – OCT 19

    The 3th alignement : Elenin, Earth and Mars align with Elenin for the first time ever in between Earth and Mars + this allignement will happen during a full Moon ! On October 12th 2011 the comet/astroid 1036 Ganymede makes it’s closest approach to Earth ! At this date there is also a second alignemend involving the Earth, Jupiter and Venus !

    2011 OCT 17

    Closest approach to Earth of Elenin : 0,232 au that’s 21.565.792 miles or 34.569.964 kilometers, if NASA isn’t telling us a lie about these distances … Also on oct 17th there is an alignement between the Earth, Jupiter and Mercury !

    2011 OCT 28

    Alignment Earth, Mercury and Venus together with again a second alignement at the same time between Earth, Sun and Jupiter (Alignment untill 1-11-11)

    To be continued...

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    Default Re: Comet Elenin - Connections with 911, strange coincidences and the mayan calendar

    You said: "protect ourselves against their influences". I tried to find how and I read something of you stating we can do that by will and intention. Is that enough? I am not so good at it, it seems. Especially during the night, when I sleep. Would you like to tell something more about how to protect?

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    The comet Elenin is disintegrating
    Please visit link below

    http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm
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    Default Re: Comet Elenin - Connections with 911, strange coincidences and the mayan calendar

    Also regarding Comet Elenin disintegration

    http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm
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    Default Re:Can Elenin be seen during the day with a cellphone photo?

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The comet Elenin is disintegrating
    Please visit link below

    http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm
    Some New Age weirdos are saying that the “Annunaki spaceship Elenin” Is just sending out Scouts… So it looks like it is disintegrating Greybeard ?...

    Fantasy knows no limit. Do you rembember Nancy Lieder, a self proclaimed contactee who claims to receive messages from aliens through an implant in her brain, stated that Hale–Bop was a fiction designed to distract the population from the coming arrival of “Nibiru” or “Planet X”, A giant planet whose close passage would disrupt the Earth’s rotation, causing global cataclysm...


    Well comets are fragile objects, so this developement while unexpected comes as no surprise...

    Comet Honda will pass relatively close to Earth about 8,980,000 km; 5,580,000 miles. It’s about half the size of Elenin, about 0.5 to 1.6 km in diameter and it’s a short period comet which means it’s been here before without much incident. It passes every 5.26 years. Comet Honda is expected to reach a peak magnitude of around 7.3 in late September when it is near perihelion. Since the magnitude brightness scale is descending by order of brightness…That means the comet is not very bright and would have to be a 4 to be seen with the naked eye. However, it can be viewed with binoculars in the right vantage point. Other than that, we are seeing more cometary visitors and 2012-2014 may hold more surprises.

    I’m not a doomsday’er and I don’t think Elenin is a threat to humanity….However, I am hoping for a once in a lifetime meteor shower

    Kindest regards my friend

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    Default Re:Can Elenin be seen during the day with a cellphone photo?

    And yet another Elenin thread... which is fine I guess. I'm not an expert but what I see in the picture seems a flare in the camera, I would bet money it's not a real object.

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    Further study of Comet Elenin orbit appeared to indicate that it was making its first-ever visit to the inner solar system. This happens routinely with comets, since, like your in laws, so many come from great distances. Other comets, like Halley for instance, travel on closed oval orbits called an ellipses and revisit the Earth’s vicinity periodically. These are called the periodic comets. Comet Elenin doesn’t appear to be any different from numerous other comets. It’s orbiting the sun in a predictable manner.

    Leonid Elenin has studied the orbit of his comet closely and predicts that gravitational tugs from the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn will likely reshape its orbit into a very long, cigar shaped ellipse. The closed track would return the comet for another visit in about 10,000 years. Further observations will no doubt refine Elenin orbit and narrow the possibilities.

    Comet Elenin orbits nearly in the same plane as the planets do. It’s currently in the constellation Leo the Lion and still very faint at 16th magnitude, well below the visual limit of most amateur telescopes. As it slowly moves closer to the Sun.

    Even if Earth were to pass through the tail, at worst we’d see a meteor shower. That would be awesome ! That it !

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    Quote Posted by Gaia (here)
    Further study of Comet Elenin orbit appeared to indicate that it was making its first-ever visit to the inner solar system. This happens routinely with comets, since, like your in laws, so many come from great distances. Other comets, like Halley for instance, travel on closed oval orbits called an ellipses and revisit the Earth’s vicinity periodically. These are called the periodic comets. Comet Elenin doesn’t appear to be any different from numerous other comets. It’s orbiting the sun in a predictable manner.

    Leonid Elenin has studied the orbit of his comet closely and predicts that gravitational tugs from the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn will likely reshape its orbit into a very long, cigar shaped ellipse. The closed track would return the comet for another visit in about 10,000 years. Further observations will no doubt refine Elenin orbit and narrow the possibilities.

    Comet Elenin orbits nearly in the same plane as the planets do. It’s currently in the constellation Leo the Lion and still very faint at 16th magnitude, well below the visual limit of most amateur telescopes. As it slowly moves closer to the Sun.

    Even if Earth were to pass through the tail, at worst we’d see a meteor shower. That would be awesome ! That it !!!!

    30 guests right now geezzz !

    Move on !

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    Talk about confusion. We are told it disintegrated, now this astronomer tells us it is still coming in. Can't be both.
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    Default Re:Can Elenin be seen during the day with a cellphone photo?

    Quote Posted by nearing (here)
    Quote Posted by Gaia (here)
    Further study of Comet Elenin orbit appeared to indicate that it was making its first-ever visit to the inner solar system. This happens routinely with comets, since, like your in laws, so many come from great distances. Other comets, like Halley for instance, travel on closed oval orbits called an ellipses and revisit the Earth’s vicinity periodically. These are called the periodic comets. Comet Elenin doesn’t appear to be any different from numerous other comets. It’s orbiting the sun in a predictable manner.

    Leonid Elenin has studied the orbit of his comet closely and predicts that gravitational tugs from the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn will likely reshape its orbit into a very long, cigar shaped ellipse. The closed track would return the comet for another visit in about 10,000 years. Further observations will no doubt refine Elenin orbit and narrow the possibilities.

    Comet Elenin orbits nearly in the same plane as the planets do. It’s currently in the constellation Leo the Lion and still very faint at 16th magnitude, well below the visual limit of most amateur telescopes. As it slowly moves closer to the Sun.

    Even if Earth were to pass through the tail, at worst we’d see a meteor shower. That would be awesome ! That it !!!!

    30 guests right now geezzz !

    Move on !

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    Talk about confusion. We are told it disintegrated, now this astronomer tells us it is still coming in. Can't be both.
    There are perfectly good natural explanations for these phenomena that don’t invoke invading brown dwarfs and end of the world scenarios. The Earth going to be here a long time, even after we’re gone. It’s a wonderful planet, generally friendly to humans, but liable to do unpredictable things that make us humans wonder why. Comet Elenin is one many comets that swing through inner system every year. At least for now, there’s nothing particularly unusual about it.

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    Default Re:Can Elenin be seen during the day with a cellphone photo?

    If he is saying that this is it's first foray into our solar system and that it come back every year, then it is very unusual indeed.

    And the alignment dates and large EQs associated with them do suggest a Dwarf Star associated with it as well.

    I look forward to the weeks ahead.
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    Quote Posted by nearing (here)
    If he is saying that this is it's first foray into our solar system and that it come back every year, then it is very unusual indeed.

    And the alignment dates and large EQs associated with them do suggest a Dwarf Star associated with it as well.

    I look forward to the weeks ahead.
    My grandfather witnessed Halleys Comet on two occasions. Once as a child in Northern Canada and the second times in Alberta in his 90's.

    No need to lose sleep over what has occured countless times before and nothing has happened. Look put it this way. Just because we now have the ability to predict paths of comets and other lumps of the cosmos doesn't suddenly mean that this is the first time it has happened or that it won't happen again any number of times in the future.

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    Default Comet Elenin NOT exploding & NOT changing course

    if, like me, you at first found the youtube footage of comet elenin exploding convincing, here's a short summary of why I now believe it's a "trick of the eye"



    1) Claim: An explosion from jupiter splits elenin in two

    videos like this one show what appears to be an explosion originating from jupiter, which makes comet elenin break in two when the shock-wave hits it.

    2) Explosion = refraction of light in telescope

    here is an explanation and demonstration of how the "shock-wave" is actually a refraction of the light in the telescope.

    (credit: both above videos were found on kerry cassidy's site)

    2b) Jupiter and Elenin were too far from each other

    this video explains the problem quite well, including a diagram from 2:58 onward which shows just how far from comet elenin jupiter actually is, showing that even if an explosion did take place there, there's no way it could reach elenin.

    3) Splitting in two = there were two objects to begin with

    yet even if the explosion theory is disproved, it still looks as if comet elenin splits and changes course, doesn't it?

    not if you go to the original footage of the explosion.
    (to look yourself: you have to choose telescope: "Behind HI1" and date (for example) "20110827" to "20110904", download the images of the telescope from this time-frame, and flick through them. (after watching any of the elenin-exploding videos, you'll be able to identify it in the pictures.))

    you will see that there's another object which is on a similar course to elenin, which shortly before the "explosion" occupies the same space in the picture, which makes it look as if at the moment of the "explosion" elenin splits in two, with part of the debris changing course.

    in fact, none of the two objects appear to change course if you look at a bigger time frame, they just "meet" visually for a while (meaning they could be very far from each other physically, but look close in the picture) and then continue on their own way.

    here's three pictures showing this:




    that's my best interpretation to date anyway - hope it was of use to someone
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    Default Re: Comet Elenin NOT exploding & NOT changing course

    To hohoemi

    While i totaly agree that the blast can't possibly come from jupiter, there does apear to be some sort of wave hit the comet.

    This could also be explained the same way as your theory of there being two objects appearing to break up, (jupiter just happened to be the frame when the explosion took place).

    I can also agree with you that lens flares or refraction of light in the telescpoe also happens from time to time.

    But what would be the odds that at the same time a blast wave appears to hit the comet, the telescope also experiences some sort of refraction of light in the telescope while crossing paths with another object in space.

    Using your own references this does not happen that often.

    I like the idea you are trying to reason what we are seeing but i can't go along with your conclusions at

    this point.

    One thing is certain, its all pretty interesting.

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    Default Re: Comet Elenin NOT exploding & NOT changing course

    thanks , hohoemi , for the synopsis . I came here today to basically post the same conclusions . But you did it far better with your links .
    I also wanted to comment on the hypothesized tetrahedral field surrounding the object . The human body has this same energy field surrounding it , and when spinning at full speed , it creates a flying saucer impression from a distance . ( Drunvalo Melchizedek has been teaching this for many years . I attended one of his 5 day workshops about ten years ago , and it was phenomenal ! )
    There are more questions than answers surrounding this phenomenon - it's exhausting trying to keep up .
    I for one would sure like some answers , and hopefully we will get them sometime soon .
    ...something is afoot...

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    Default Re: Comet Elenin - Connections with 911, strange coincidences and the mayan calendar

    Quote Posted by Lazlo (here)

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    This is a worthwhile read by a real astrophysicist calling out the claims of Hoagland, and a useful reference on the problem with using numerology to assign importance to any celestial event.
    Thanks Lazlo,

    A very worthwhile read indeed, not only on figures manipulations (like with any statistics) but also pointing out something lost on about everyone speculating on this puny -- now defunct -- comet: the initial hyperbolic orbit stated as the basis for most speculations*.

    That means that prior to its recent entering of this solar system, comet Elenin never -- ever -- visited this said solar system. Hence all speculations of it being a "return" of something -- whether Blue Kachina or "blast from the past" -- are crocks of s***!

    * The million year initial orbital period and subsequent corrections down to 11,800 years period came after comet Elenin's orbit got disturbed by the influence of this solar system.

    *** I forgot who said that "the lie is different at each level"... the only certainty left being that, whatever the level: it's a lie!
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    Default Re: Comet Elenin - Connections with 911, strange coincidences and the mayan calendar

    Many people believed the Blue Kachina prophecy was fulfilled by Holmes.

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    The Hopi elders have long passed down their myths and prophecies from generation to generation via oral tradition. Additional details are extrapolated from their many ancient rock pictographs and tablets.

    One such prophecy reveals: "When the Blue Star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge".

    The Blue Star is seen as the starting herald of a Great Purification period beginning prior to 2012. This would last for 7 years in total. Interestingly comet Holmes 17P travels an orbit around the sun 7 years long. That fact makes for a rather ominous coincidence if you ask this researcher. That should mean the great purification runs through 24-10-2007 to 24-10-2014.
    rest of story at:

    http://2012rising.com/article/was-co...hopi-blue-star

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