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    I remember reading an article about an internal investigation into the Federal Banks gold bullion reserves and this was held in one of the towers in question. The entire team involved and all the damning evidence was wiped out.
    Apparently the evidence involved the corruption of billions of dollars worth of gold.........

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    The investigation of 911 should rather be pushed forward to consider a much grander conspiracy as yet unimagined, than to step back and explain as simple anti-Americanism.

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    I always thought it was these Bad Boys who were the main conspiritors.....



    If its not them we are in real S..., for we at least know at the core they are doing it for oil, power,influence and a eventual one world government. There are probably 'Elite' family interests in the background..including the military ind complex, Banksters , pharma, GM foods because at the top of these corporations they are all inter related, so its all about fear and control..
    They are the ones a full year before 9/11 that published a report to the effect that absence of a catastrophic event like a new pearl harbour the US people would not follow their predetory agenda....I think thats a very big clue.......We have been playing out their agenda for the last 10 years..

    Cheers Steve..
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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Just look at all the coincidences of that day. Our military just happened to be doing an exercise mimicking such a scenario, same thing happened in London on 7/7. Larry Silverstein just happened to take over the WTC and insured them for a boatload of money 6 weeks prior and removed bomb sniffing dogs. No steel high rise bldgs had ever collapsed ever despite much hotter fires buring over 24 hours and yet these two giant bldgs came down so fast from jet fuel, and WTC 7 not even hit came down. Silverstein said, "Pull it". That doesn't happen in an hour. You don't pull down a bldg in an hours prep time. It takes weeks.

    All those cameras on the Pentagon and not one good view of the plane hitting the bldg. No large debris on the lawn despite the wings taking out light poles outside of the pentagon. No, the entire plane went into a 16 ft hole 4 rings deep in the Pentagon. No markings on the wall where 7 ft titanium engines would have impacted the Pentagon wall. Again, no large debris in Pennsylvania, in fact the coroner said there was nothing to see. Even if they plowed into the ground, there should be blood all over the place.

    Let's see, nano thermite evidence, strontium 90 and barium in dust covering Manhatten where the dust settled. Lots of stuff don't add up. I think WTC7 is the largest smoking gun.
    And let's not forget that in a news conference the day before 9/11 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said the Pentagon couldn't account for $2.3 trillion dollars. Do any of you remember them finding that $2.3 trillion or even any mention of it after 9/11?

    Ah, it's probably just a coincidence... Right?

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    Quote Posted by jc71 (here)
    What is the smoking gun that really says that this was an "inside job". And when people talk about "inside", do they mean "US Government/President", "Big Corporations", "Foreign Intelligence Agencies (Israel?)", "CIA", "Big Banks"?
    Gold. I was all about the theft of thousands of tons of Gold by G.H.W.B., Banks, Bankers and fractionally created Gold. The names of those responsible are contained in Book One in this thread.

    The ten year joint FBI / IRS investigation was complete and they were all due in court in front of a New York Judge on 10th October 2001. In the words of one FBI officer “ We lost the lot”

    Everything else was just the bonus.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ions-About-911

    PS. / ever wondered why they keep telling everyone to get into gold and silver….

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 Really an Inside Job?

    OP: "Was 9/11 Really an Inside Job?"

    There is virtually no irrefutable evidence of an "outside job" or even any component of the events overall on the day as being irrefutably "outside." (I'd say there are strong - but not absolute - indications that it was entirely "inside", and if Mossad and ISI were involved, they were involved as "insiders.")

    There is irrefutable evidence (and about 1000 coincidences) of an inside job.

    You are (or appear to be) experiencing cognitive dissonance.

    Go back and review the irrefutable evidence, if you can take a deep breath and look with fresh eyes.

    Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7 (15 minutes)
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw


    Entire new movie -9/11: Explosive Evidence - (2 hours, 19 minutes)
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4

    This IS still very relevant, and still very important. We must not lose sight of the truth, of who has been directly and indirectly affected in the past 10 years and into the future if we give up.

    Dennis


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    Here is an e-mail about 911 information that I sent to my not awake family and friends yesterday... Since I was asked to do a 911 show for my WZLX show I did some 911 research and found some really interesting things... I think you will find them of interest too... (If you have not already seen or heard them) :-)

    This is a topic that I have not paid much attention to for years (I didn't need too)...but was led back to it for obvious reasons and found some great people who are doing their part to bring out the truth.

    If you look/listen to nothing else on this list please check out Dr Judy Wood. Her interviews are fascinating... I sent her an e-mail today requesting an interview with me... I will keep you posted


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    Hello my dear friends and family,

    Today as you know marks the 10th anniversary of 9/11/01 a day that changed the world forever! Well 10 years later it is now the time to discern the truth of what happened on that day ten years ago. Yes there was a terrorist attack and 1000's of people were murdered.

    However, if you still believe all of the destruction of the world trade center buildings was caused by 2 airplanes flown by some muslim terrorists then you are mistaken. I for one (as are many) am still asking who did this and why? I am expecting that the answers to these questions will be reveled in time.

    I am only being the messenger/reporter here and beg of you too come to your own conclusions after you visit the information listed below from 3 of many different sources and perspectives in regard to what really happened on this day 10 years ago! And I would like to welcome you to join me and many others to take a look at some information that you may have not know about that took place 10 years ago today.

    Ten years ago today I personally knew instantly that 2 airplanes could not cause the twin towers to fall into their foot print and how could they have caused the fall of building #7 into its foot print and the destruction to building #3 & #6 also. And how could 1400 VEHICLES melt NEAR the WTC: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/D...Beam5.html#TOP And I have had a lot more questions too.

    So below is some information that you may not of know about that I wanted to share with you today!

    Much love to us all, always and in all ways!!
    Kimberley Jaeger

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    Please start with this 15 minute short trailer on youtube

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

    You can find a full length documentary at this web site:
    http://ae911truth.org/

    The documentary includes several of the dozens of technical and building experts that were interviewed and that appear in our forthcoming full length documentary - 9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out. Altogether of course there are more than 1,500 Architects & Engineers that have signed the AE911Truth petition calling for a new investigation of the destruction of all 3 high-rises at the World Trade Center on 9/11.

    Special thanks to the AE911Truth volunteer video crew!

    We are proud to partner with the 9/11 family members and first responders of RememberBuilding7.org in the 10th Anniversary Campaign to raise awareness about WTC 7 in cities across America.

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    Please listen to this interview conducted a few days ago by Mel Fabregas with Dr. Judy Wood

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=3QxOMVpnXmg

    To hear part 2: Subscribe to Veritas Radio: http://www.veritasshow.com/subscribe.html

    S y n o p s i written by Mel Fabregas

    Reading Dr. Judy Wood's book, Where Did the Towers Go?, continues to awaken minds of ... note among truth seekers while mainstream media looks the other way and many in the "truth movement" bash it for its differing conclusions.

    On this tenth anniversary of 9/11, Dr. Wood returns to Veritas to discuss the book's reception thus far, and her hopes for the future.

    "I'd like to empower the reader to understand what happened. I want them to trust themselves, their own judgment, rather than what they've heard." Of course, one has to read the book. Those that do often return to buy another five or so, she says.

    During this discussion we hear a recording of Governor Jesse Ventura lauding Dr. Wood's work to a skeptical Alex Jones. "It was some sort of microwave weapon. It wasn't a controlled demolition." We hear a recording of self-proclaimed 40-year hurricane expert Geraldo Rivera say, "Too bad there wasn't a hurricane on 9/11."

    Ah, but there was a hurricane on 9/11. The public was never warned. Nor were pilots.

    On 9/11/2001, a category-three Hurricane Erin stood menacingly off the shore of Long Island and Cape Cod for four days, Woods explains. Just after the towers disintegrated, it made a 90-degree turn away from the continent.

    Free energy weaponry apparently requires a highly-charged, controlled atmosphere.

    Wood laments that the truth movement has been derailed by distracting misinformation alluding to controlled demolition, radiation, bombs, thermite, molten metals, and more.

    She says that surviving recordings reveal silence during the demise of the buildings. "The towers did not burn up, nor did they slam to the ground. They turned to dust in mid-air."

    She mentions that there is no evidence any steel, or other tower remains, was shipped off to China.

    Toasted cars blocks away, spontaneous combustion, papers flying while solids "dustified..." Wood's 800-pages of findings beg to be read. And bring on the skeptics.

    "Just look at my book. There is no denying the evidence of directed, free-energy technology. This technology is not a secret anymore. Think of what knowing this will change."

    So far no one has disputed any of the evidence presented in her book.

    Here is a page about the 1400 VEHICLES that melted NEAR WTC

    [SIZE="2"http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/D...Beam5.html#TOP[/SIZE]

    And this interview on Red Ice Radio from yesterday is fabulous!!!

    http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-110911.php


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    I suggest your read this article:
    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/931/3...isclosure.html

    It is about William Rodriguez, who is a native of Puerto Rico, a citizen of the United States, and a resident of the State of New Jersey. On September 11, 2001, and for approximately nineteen years prior thereto, Rodriguez was employed as a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center (WTC) in New York, New York.
    On 9/11, Rodriguez initially rescued fifteen (15) persons from the WTC, and as Rodriguez was the only person at the site with the master key to the North Tower stairwells, he bravely led firefighters up the stairwell, unlocking doors as they ascended, thereby aiding in the successful evacuation of unknown hundreds of those who survived. Rodriguez, at great risk to his own life, re-entered the Towers three times after the first, North Tower impact at about 8:46 A.M., and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive, surviving the building's collapse by diving beneath a fire truck. After receiving medical attention at the WTC site for his injuries, Rodriguez spent the rest of 9/11 aiding as a volunteer in the rescue efforts, and at dawn the following morning, was back at Ground Zero continuing his heroic efforts.

    His web site is http://william911.com/

    And then if you want you can listen to my interview with William Rodriguez conducted September 2, 2011.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/beloven...ing-in-the-now



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    It never ceases to amaze me how little time people are willing to put into looking into all the facts of a situation. Now due to endless wars that have come since that day and half of the American heartland out of work, maybe they will have time to check into it.

    For reasons of their own, it is too painful for most Americans to NOT believe in their own government ~ no matter how much direct evidence is out there that begs for it. Like religious dogma, once learned it is or seems too painful for them to consider a different view of life and events.They whine but seem unable to match up the dots with the loss of freedom, trashing of the constitution, endless wars and shackled once again to the max ~ still can't make that leap in thought. Betrayal.

    Here is a five minute version of the events of 911 ~ short, sweet, painless and deserving of an Oscar for clarity and brevity. Those perps of 911 still walk free among us. It is such a sad sight to see people hold up the flag of America and salute it. They pledge their honor without knowing what's been done in their name. They don't seem to care much either. This is the year for truth to win out. It's collective amnesia at best right now. It has been an interesting phenomena to witness happening on Earth and also sad to see how eager people are to blame others.

    Ep 6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Even so, let your light shine and keep it real...

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    Hey Darla you beat me to the punch on posting the exact same video... if you note I was posting something else first just one minute before you posted this! hhehehehehe I love synchronicity!!!

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    What about all the supposed cell phone calls from the "hijacked" planes...? anyone here ever tried to use a cellphone on a plane that's at altitude? cellular signals are aimed down from the cell towers, not up. They just don't work.
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    Brilliant little vid Darla I might put it on the comedy thread.....Oh wait its the official version......Steve

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    Quote Posted by 42 (here)
    What about all the supposed cell phone calls from the "hijacked" planes...? anyone here ever tried to use a cellphone on a plane that's at altitude? cellular signals are aimed down from the cell towers, not up. They just don't work.
    Yes I have tried several times.. no cell phone calls go through only minutes after take off.... done it many many times!!!

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    As Fred259 said that gold court case looks extremely suspicious , this whole thing looks like several projects , oppertunities all rolled into one...

    At first sight we are led to believe Afghanistan is a backward mountainous state populated by poor warlike muslims ,so is there any other reason to occupy that country other than to
    track down a CIA asset.....Plenty before 9/11 the US were negotiating a oil pipe line from the Caspian sea to the Arabian sea which broke down.The Taliban were cracking down on the poppy
    farmers and when the Russians were there they discovered rich mineral deposits including Lithium, so I think Afghanistan may be a important asset to the Neo Cons.....


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    Quote Posted by Kimberley (here)
    Here is an e-mail about 911 information that I sent to my not awake family and friends yesterday... Since I was asked to do a 911 show for my WZLX show I did some 911 research and found some really interesting things... I think you will find them of interest too... (If you have not already seen or heard them) :-)

    This is a topic that I have not paid much attention to for years (I didn't need too)...but was led back to it for obvious reasons and found some great people who are doing their part to bring out the truth.

    If you look/listen to nothing else on this list please check out Dr Judy Wood. Her interviews are fascinating... I sent her an e-mail today requesting an interview with me... I will keep you posted
    ...
    I think you've posted the closest we'll get to it - free energy weaponry.

    No wonder the 'channelled' info says that will never be allowed to happen again.
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    Quote Posted by ceetee9 (here)
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Just look at all the coincidences of that day. Our military just happened to be doing an exercise mimicking such a scenario, same thing happened in London on 7/7. Larry Silverstein just happened to take over the WTC and insured them for a boatload of money 6 weeks prior and removed bomb sniffing dogs. No steel high rise bldgs had ever collapsed ever despite much hotter fires buring over 24 hours and yet these two giant bldgs came down so fast from jet fuel, and WTC 7 not even hit came down. Silverstein said, "Pull it". That doesn't happen in an hour. You don't pull down a bldg in an hours prep time. It takes weeks.

    All those cameras on the Pentagon and not one good view of the plane hitting the bldg. No large debris on the lawn despite the wings taking out light poles outside of the pentagon. No, the entire plane went into a 16 ft hole 4 rings deep in the Pentagon. No markings on the wall where 7 ft titanium engines would have impacted the Pentagon wall. Again, no large debris in Pennsylvania, in fact the coroner said there was nothing to see. Even if they plowed into the ground, there should be blood all over the place.

    Let's see, nano thermite evidence, strontium 90 and barium in dust covering Manhatten where the dust settled. Lots of stuff don't add up. I think WTC7 is the largest smoking gun.
    And let's not forget that in a news conference the day before 9/11 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said the Pentagon couldn't account for $2.3 trillion dollars. Do any of you remember them finding that $2.3 trillion or even any mention of it after 9/11?

    Ah, it's probably just a coincidence... Right?
    I was looking for this Video, Thanks. OP use your intuition when you weigh out the facts of this horrendous crime. Whatever resonates with you is the truth, that's what i tell my children. And my son whom is attending college is starting to resonate that it was an inside job by the inner governments. Building 7 is the gem. The Pentagon Is A Diamond as well. And the so called senators wife cel phone call at 3,000 some odd feet in the air from inside the plane that went down in PA, now that's a ruby as well. Use your intuition and investigate it yourself. Hint: Lucky Larry Silverstein was a lucky bastard that day.
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    Default Re: Was 9/11 Really an Inside Job?

    I guess all the previous posts already answer your question, OP.

    I was 17 when it happened. I was at school, here in Brazil, and the school director came in and told us to go home.

    When I got home, I turned on the TV by the moment the second plane hit the second tower...I was speechless.

    A few minutes later, the first tower came down, and I was just feeling like: What???

    Then the second tower came down, and I just thought of a controlled implosion i´ve seen here in Brazil a couple of months before...

    When the WT7 building came down, it was over for me. I was sure it was a controlled implosion.

    So, if a 17 years old school boy could not believe it was a terrorist attack, how could the whole world believe it?? When they first started to talk about a terrorist attack, I knew it was nothing but a terrible, unbelievable joke.

    By that time, I´ve started to seek evidence to prove my point of view and I´ve created a blog about it. A few months later, I was planning to visit my sister, who was living in New York and guess what? They refused to give me a visa. A few months later, my sister had to come back to Brazil, because she couldn´t renew her student visa as well, and she couldn´t finish her masters program.

    Now, back in 2010, I was planning to go on a business trip to US and guess what? No visa...

    So, I guess I´m not welcome in the US now, and maybe forever, simply because I have started to publish evidence about 9/11 on the web back in 2001.
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    I'm convinced it was an "inside job" - the evidence is overwhelming.

    The "truth" if it ever comes out, may probably reveal a combination of factors, but the "authorities" have certainly NOT addressed the most pressing "anomalies" (no doubt hiring some "experts" to debunk any further conspiracies). If you go back through history, you will find it is complicit with lies. (This is not self-promotion, but I provided a post on this - no I didn't write it! - and I don't like to duplicate what has already been said

    Have you noticed that whenever it comes to a showdown between the official story and the conspiracy version, that the debunkers never actually answer the questions, but resort to personal attacks on the so-called "conspirator" or their favourite: use an emotionally injected jibe to create anger, ie "How anyone could say such-and-such" is an insult to the victims" etc.

    This was no different from the JFK Assassination, Vietnam, Pearl Harbour or the Moon landings - truth mixed with lies.

    And what about the "white plane" photographed high up circling the WHOLE event. It's a 747 kitted out as a spy plane - easily identifiable by the extra "blister" on top of the humped cabin. Only ONE Air Force in the World has these aircraft. Yup. USAF, who deny any of their aircraft being there on that day (gee, maybe it was hi-jacked too ).

    Whoever is responsible we may never know, but it has served as an effective springboard to throw Americans into a constant state of fear (not to mention the rest of the world), destroy the Constitution and freedoms (virtually achieved) by introducing the Patriot Act, and start a war with Iraq. (Okay now the "conspiracy gets a bit tricky).

    One of the more "outer" theories is that Iraq had "obtained alien technology" and the PTB were scared s***less that someone like Saddam would get hold of it. This rumour also circulated during the Gulf War (but they couldn't find it). It was unlikely the Iraqui's would have the knoss to build anything from the alleged crashed ship, but were capable of putting a very nasty bio-weapon together from alien remains). At least, thats yet another theory to add to the mix.

    As with most conspiracies, there is a much, MUCH bigger picture.

    ANALYSING A CONSPIRACY
    * Who stands to lose, and who will gain?
    * Follow the money trail
    * Follow the dead body trail
    * Follow the number of key individuals, politicians, scientists, whistleblowers, etc who lose jobs, get arrested on trumped up charges (including The Patriot Act), become involved in scandals, or "speak out" against the mainstream "view". Who "disappears"? Who has an "accident"?
    * Those in power change the "rules" to suit their own agendas (there are many groups and many agendas - but then, don't we all?)
    * When the "alternative theories" seem to fit the facts more accurately than the "truth"
    * Join the dots

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    Quote And what about the "white plane" photographed high up circling the WHOLE event. It's a 747 kitted out as a spy plane - easily identifiable by the extra "blister" on top of the humped cabin. Only ONE Air Force in the World has these aircraft. Yup. USAF, who deny any of their aircraft being there on that day (gee, maybe it was hi-jacked too ).
    That's new to me - please enlighten me?
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    HORIZON - it was discussed at length as the "mystery plane" - type in "white aircraft over 9/11" or "mystery plane 9/11" to your favourite search engine. Likewise with Iraq obtaining alien technology & the so-called "real reason" behind the Iraqi Invasion.

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    In relationship to the first post hell "YES".

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