Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Mark]

i'm reminded of the of the blue star kachina prophecy, in that it will unmask itself suddenly and without warning. if something happened to make people think ELEnin was defunct and suddenly it lit up that could fit. this is a possibility. and what is this?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lw0Y-mH_W9M

The newscaster said that reports say it was flying horizontally as well. Interesting.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=buTV-90jECo

[aranuk]

deleted my post as I didn't realize there were so many posts. I was commenting on an earlier post

Silly me

[aranuk]

Posted by verach (here)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO...&feature=share
Here is an interesting video. Obviously no lens flare... But what is it... Seems like the images from Germany - which means that this object is definitely seen from the Northern hemisphere.

Found the post here! Absolutely clear orb on left of sun no doubt about it. Excellent photography from an amateur too. It was taken in Wales not germany.

Stan

[Hervé]

Posted by verach (here)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO...&feature=share
Here is an interesting video. Obviously no lens flare... But what is it... Seems like the images from Germany - which means that this object is definitely seen from the Northern hemisphere.

That's a good one!

I didn't know we could see a full Venus (as compared to full Moons) in broad daylight, but apparently it fits the planets positions for the date:

From the comments on YouTube:

Uploader Comments (illdivvies47)

• I really think that is Venus judging from the position.
  virgojeep1 1 hour ago
  
• @virgojeep1 you may be right-though Ive never seen it before-and I never knew you were able to see it in daytime hours- i have loads of filters and a better camera which Ill use on the next clear day.
  illdivvies47 52 minutes ago

[Operator]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
That's a good one!

I didn't know we could see a full Venus (as compared to full Moons) in broad daylight, but apparently it fits the planets positions for the date:

I had the same feeling to check for a planet from our own solar system ... those are the objects that could be found near the sun
when the alignments are as shown in your picture.

The only thing I'm not so sure about is if planets would be bright enough to see during the daytime. Stars e.g. are far too faint
to see. I am still puzzled why people are so thrilled to see, and expect, another object close to the sun and then scream Nibiru !

[verach]

I am no specialist but the way I see it: Venus is farther away from the Sun than Elenin - which seems closer... So my guess is this "object" is Elenin... And it's not that I am "so thrilled to see, and expect, another object close to the sun and then scream Nibiru". But it's been so long that we are watching the skies and expecting to see something - and were getting mostly lens flares - that at least this time I was happy the video was not fake. Otherwise, I don't know who will come nearby Earth - Elenin, Nibiru, the Blue Kachina, the Red Kachina, Levy Honda, NY55 or something else. I am just so fed up with this materialistic and unjust world that I hope and pray we might get some change - one way or another - and I have the feeling one of all these celestial objects might be the cause for it. Hopefully - a good change and a transformation of all humanity!

[Hervé]

Posted by Operator (here)
The only thing I'm not so sure about is if planets would be bright enough to see during the daytime. Stars e.g. are far too faint to see. [...]

That's what surprised me.

It might be a peculiarity of our modern digital camera which can pick these things up whereas the human eyes are totally blinded. Carmody mentioned something to that effect on a thread which I don't remember the title but talking about lens flares.

I am still puzzled why people are so thrilled to see, and expect, another object close to the sun and then scream Nibiru !

Got to get this viewing counter going...

[Hervé]

Posted by verach (here)
I am no specialist but the way I see it: Venus is farther away from the Sun than Elenin - which seems closer... So my guess is this "object" is Elenin... [...]

Venus in that position is fully reflecting the Sun's light whereas Elenin is blocking/masking the Sun's light.

Then there is the matter of size... a pinhead vs the Moon.

[norman]

That thing is MASSIVE and it's real.

I've been knocking people's lens flair efforts on this forum until I'm sick of it but this isn't lens flair.

If it was the moon it would look bigger.

If it was one of the planets we know about it would be smaller.

It doesn't look like a planet to me. It looks like a radiant object.

[nearing]

mountain jim just posted an interesting post on the Death thread, Id like to bring it here as this is the original Elenin thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post310366
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Well don't shoot the messenger but I thought this was interesting. Amazing how much interest/info/disinfo this little Elenin has sparked.

http://thechaniproject.com/forum/ind...pic,830.0.html

the poster at chani, has several posts which are copied from the thread he links to at GLP. Since I abhor GLP, have not gone to that thread to watch the original poster(s) / debunkers free-for-all there. Just thought this was a new idea/take on the Elenin info stream.

Guess that means I still have not returned to rationality, assuming I was ever there.

I think I am going to join Chani, as the sci-fi imaginative idea level is high there it seems, even if the truth level remains to be ascertained.

Comet Elenin Scientific Evidence of mass 20 times greater than Earth
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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1640482/pg1

This is the BEST publicly available data and scientific analysis, which shows that Comet Elenin has a mass 10 to 20 times larger than Earth.

The following report is offered as a public service, and contains ONLY information that is publicly available. I have no access to classified information, and am not sworn to any secrecy oaths. I have spent (wasted?) years worrying my ass off over this subject, and as a service to my fellow human beings, I'm giving you my best, and most credible, research results. My calculations show that the "comet" is very massive, but will not come CLOSE enough to Earth to cause global devastation (well, not by water, anyway!) This report includes enough data for you to calculate the "comet" mass yourself, so you don't need to trust me, or anybody else! I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, so I'm donating months of my time and research for the common good.

Millions of people are VERY worried about this "comet", and that is permitting the filthy bankers all the time they need to set us up for WWIII. Hopefully, with this new information on "comet" Elenin, we can finally set aside our main fears, and get on with the task of removing the corrupt parasites who are killing us, and our planet.

Gravitational Microlensing shown on Nasa videos

"Comet" Elenin has enough mass to cause "gravitational microlensing", as shown in the Nasa Stereo Behind videos from August 1, and August 20, 2011.

Gravitational microlensing, is the temporary brightening of a background star, as the "comet" passes directly in front of the star. That brightening is CLEARLY shown in both the Nasa Stereo Behind videos, and was witnessed by two amateur astronomers. If you watch the August 20th video, you will see the background star "glom" onto Elenin, get much brighter, and smear out into a 90 degree arc (also, the brightest frame was deleted before public release.) The overall brightness of the two, superimposed, is MUCH brighter than each of them separately. It is better to download the large jpegs directly from Nasa here [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] To download the jpegs, select telescope=>HI1, resolution=1024x1024, start date=20110820, end date=leave blank, click "search". Then, click "download all Behind HI1". You will have to step through each jpeg, or assemble them into a video, to see the brightening of the background star.

Or, if you don't want to download the high res jpegs, you can watch this youtube in full screen mode. The brightening happens on August 20, which is the only time it passes over a distinct star. [link to www.youtube.com]

Nasa has a short animation explaining "gravitational microlensing", and it shows how they use it to discover large, dark planets. Please watch this short video, to understand the importance of the Nasa and YouTube videos. Note that this technique works better when the dark object is far away, but it still works even with super-close "comet" Elenin, which indicates a large mass.

video title: NASA - Lone Planet Under a Cosmic Magnifying Glass [link to www.nasa.gov]

The brightening effect is also clearly shown in the Nasa August 1 video here [link to spaceobs.org] Right click the GIF, save it, and re-open it in your browser, or a graphics program, then play it with 8X magnification. You can easily see the background star "glom" onto Elenin, form an arc, and get much brighter. It gets so much brighter, that the detector saturates, and goes to solid white. This increase is absolute proof of the high mass of the front lensing object.

The fact that the background star was not dimmed by the coma of the "comet", but instead, was made brighter as Elenin passed in front of it, is PROOF that Elenin is NOT A COMET! It is also proof of the large mass of Elenin. No more discussion or speculation is needed on those topics, unless the Nasa videos can be proven to be faulty.

It is amazing to me, that no one has mentioned this lensing effect. "Real" astronomers spotted it immediately, but are keeping mum about it. Probably many of them have already done the calculations, as shown, below.

The gravitational microlensing effect happens quickly and disappears quickly if the massive object is moving in front of a distant star. Spirals and bright "C" shapes are commonly seen in gravitational microlensing. The arcs of light are known as "Einstein Rings". Comet Elenin is now moving rapidly over the background stars, so the Einstein rings would appear for only a minute, just as witnessed, below. Without a large aperture telescope, and a fast exposure, the rings cannot be imaged. Instead, with a small telescope, and long exposure, the rings will show up, as described in the video (below), looking like the spindle spacer of a 45 rpm record.
and next post followed from same poster at Chani forum - anomallie

Nasa has made 2200 observations of Comet Elenin, and has published NONE of the still images! Probably, many of their images show gravitational microlensing, so they CANNOT show their own images, without disclosing the large mass of the object.

Amateur astronomers have also witnessed the gravitational lensing effect, such as youtuber "ThePerfectMinds" (Francis Walsh), and CRU4T, formerly a member of the Terral Croft group.

Francis Walsh witnessed "a spiral" around Comet Elenin on June 30, using the robotic telescopes in Mayhill, New Mexico (Global Rent a Scope).

Here is the youtube where Francis Walsh discusses seeing the "Einstein ring" spiral - fast forward to 4:11, and also to 17:45. (He is NOT an astronomer! He had NO IDEA of what he was seeing!!!)

video title: Comet Elenin Report 20110630 by Nibiru Tracker 2012 "I Saw a Spiral" C/2010 X1 "contour" view [link to www.youtube.com]


Red Fireball and moons seen in telescope

Here is another youtube where Francis shows what Comet Elenin looks like with a red filter. It is HUGE, red, and angry looking. But, with blue or green filters, it looks small and dim. The ancient warnings (Kolbrin, etc) say the planet killer is a fiery red color.

Fast forward to 9:13. When he sees the giant red blob of Elenin, he panics and suddenly pulls his camera down, muttering something about having to clean the lens! It makes you wonder if he was told to NOT show a giant red blob. Francis is probably a gate-keeper, as he NEVER gives the coordinates, so no one else can verify his observations. Most likely he is being paid to be the go-to guy for real time images for the sheeple - a classic gate-keeping operation. He knows literally nothing about astronomy, so why he is so deep into it, is a real mystery.

video title: NEW! Latest Comet Elenin image enhancement inspection "33" of 20110722 [link to www.youtube.com]

In the same video, at 17:30, he captured what looks like FOUR MOONS orbiting the central body: [link to www.youtube.com]

New images from Australia show a sudden brightening, just look at the August 29 series. You'll see a sudden bright blob, even though the coma stays the same: [link to members.westnet.com.au]

Here is a video being pushed by Leonid Elenin (CIA disinfo guy), showing the "comet" traveling BETWEEN stars, not over them. Obviously, there is NO lensing effect, unless the "comet" moves directly in front of a star. [link to www.youtube.com]

Various astronomers are saying the "comet" is disintegrating, mostly based on it's suddenly getting brighter, then darker, as they assume the ball of ice is vaporizing into ice crystals. However, the author thinks the lensing effect may explain the brightening, and darkening. The lack of an appreciable coma is consistent with a high gravity object.

All the talk about Comet Elenin turning and breaking up is just "ignant". The shockwave that supposedly hit the "comet" was just a lens flare (internal lens reflection) caused by the brightness of Jupiter, to the right. The slowing and turning of Elenin is caused by it rotating directly away from the Stereo B satellite, due to it's natural orbit. Sorry, but no breakup, and no intelligent "control" there. I wish it was...


"Comet" mass calculation

Now, the big question is, WHAT IS THE MASS (and what will it do to Earth at the expected distance)? By measuring the apparent angular size of the brightening area around the "comet", compared to its normal size, the mass of the gravity lens can be calculated.

Then, after the mass is known, by doing a simple (mass/radius squared) comparison with Earth's Moon, we can calculate how high the ocean tides will be. That will tell us how many BILLIONS of people could die when this thing gets close to earth, and what the safe elevation MIGHT be.

Both calculations are easy to do for an astrophysicist, but ONLY if the exact angular sizes are available. Since we only have some crappy video frames to go by, the following mass calculation is only A ROUGH ESTIMATE!
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[Hervé]

As far as I know, there's been no words on Stereo B needing a repositioning after comet Elenin got so close to it.

[Hervé]

Posted by norman (here)
That thing is MASSIVE and it's real.

I've been knocking people's lens flair efforts on this forum until I'm sick of it but this isn't lens flair.

If it was the moon it would look bigger.

If it was one of the planets we know about it would be smaller.

It doesn't look like a planet to me. It looks like a radiant object.

A more recent video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FCR10BN3zOw

And comments:

@getparanoia I agree.... saw Venus this morning and it looked to be the same size and bright to the naked eye
VoteLib3rty 1 day ago

Thank you for your efforts and please don't be discouraged.
WraithTX 1 day ago

@getparanoia
100% Venus. Don't get me wrong I am by no means a debunker but it is Venus you can verify that its right were it is supposed to be by checking NASA JPL
you can also see it on soho clear as day and watch its orbit
WraithTX 1 day ago

or maybe not^^
getparanoia 1 day ago

i checked it on stellarium,its just Venus
getparanoia 1 day ago

Could be a good idea to take a video at sunrise/set to see it better.

And if indeed it is Venus, then pictures of it could be taken from anywhere

[bennycog]

Posted by nearing (here)

Posted by verach (here)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO...&feature=share
Here is an interesting video. Obviously no lens flare... But what is it... Seems like the images from Germany - which means that this object is definitely seen from the Northern hemisphere.

Thanks for posting!

No doubt, there is something there. Not a lens flare as it does not move with camera.
I was frustrated that he didn't try using his hand or another object to try to cover the Sun orb so he could try to isolate the object.

We all should be able to see that now. Time to get your cameras out, people!

you will notice that a little further to the left is another more dull circle of light.. interesting..

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hey nearing i cant get your youtube links to work in your last post either..

[bennycog]

i see you have to go through glp then an ad or two before you can even get to the you tube vid..
here is the vids direct in order .... for those curious..

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4VIWNekuXcA
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/...518-video.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wyKQReJAaXg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fJhhkyiliH8#
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xkHT2...layer_embedded

[jcocks]

Posted by applejax (here)
just curious, has anyone checked out the moon lately? lots of chemtrails are trying to cover it up. my brother also gave this link to me:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kJMbjtk5GFc

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Lc81y9B_sU

wondering if you guys heard of this person? thanks

Yes. We've been lucky enough to have an unobstructed view of the moon of late. For about the last year, it was really bright in the sky, bright white. i have no idea whatsoever why.... But it seems to have "dimmed" in the last few days, and is now very yellow in colour.

I'm not jumping to conclusions though.... But I did find it unusual.

[Snowbird]

Goodness nearing, that chaniproject site is quite the read! It is also spreading some really severe fear that may be totally unfounded and baseless. Although, the calculations are quite impressive. It's a very interesting thread.

One thing that I found on that thread is a bit of gossip and I just can't help myself here....

I find it really interesting that both President Bill Clinton's mother and President Barack Obama's mother died of breast cancer.....or did they? These were the candidates from Hope and of hope.

The Rockefeller/Bush crime syndicate planned to be in South America by now, but they are being stopped from leaving by the white hats in the US military. Top scumbag, David Rockefeller took his entire progeny (four generations!) to northern India last year, upwind of Fukushima, and no one has seen him since. Yes, even Bill Clinton is really a Rockefeller, as Winthrop Rockefeller (governor of Arkansas) was his biological father. So, The USA has been run by the Rockefeller/Bush crime syndicate since 1963 (daddy Bush killed JFK, baby Bush killed JFK jr).

On this chani project site they list what they consider the Danger Watch Dates. On this same thread, a poster linked Alfred Webre's newest update video interview with Tolec, the human representative to the Andromeda Council. I am linking parts 1 and 2 below for those interested. Tolec, according to the Andromeda Council, has an entirely different view of Elenin than does the chani project. Although the cosmic calculations on the chani project may well be accurate, they may well be measuring the brown dwarf Tekoma and not Elenin and their outlook for our future is decidedly the opposite IMO. And, wait until you hear what Tolec has to say about Nibiru. Wow!

Danger Watch Dates:

September 26th - 27th - 28th - 29th
NSV ELEnin passes between Sun and Earth in alignment watch out for anticipated Geological Pole Shift Event.

October 17th -18th -19 - 20th
Neutron Star ELEnin at Earth orbit and nearest position. 0.232 AU from Earth @ 21.57 million miles.

November 3rd - 4th - 5th - 6th - 7th
Earth passes through the tail area of Neutron Star ELEnin. Anticipated fireballs and meteor impacts.

November 22nd - 23rd - 24th - 25th
Neutron Star ELEnin, Earth and Sun alignment for possible Pole Shift Reversal Event. Third Alignment 0.58 AU from Earth.

http://thechaniproject.com/forum/ind...a5&topic=830.0

Below is just a portion of the Webre/Tolec interview. There will be massive changes, but these are in preparation for the New Earth Eden. From this Tolec/Andromeda Council source and several other off-world sources of information that I have access to, we are absolutely positively surrounded by and supported by benevolence, unconditional loving kindness and people from other parts of our solar system who are cheering us on and very excited for the progress that we are making. We don't hear about this or read about this unless and until we go outside of the box for this info. It's there waiting to give us what we need to get where we are headed.

Part II - Andromeda Council: Updates on Comet Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes & 4 D Earth

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7S5XL...ature=youtu.be

Andromeda Council Update on Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes, 4D Earth
Alfred Lambremont Webre, Seattle Exopolitics Examiner
September 11, 2011

WATCH PART I

http://youtu.be/fGeXb1gfTbE

WATCH PART II

http://youtu.be/7S5XL3RVoYY



Comet Elenin and a celestial body upgrade of our solar system

In his ExopoliticsTV interview, the Andromeda Council representative (Tolec) discusses the role of Comet Elenin and a succession of three important celestial bodies that are following Comet Elenin in a form of intelligently-designed convoy.

Tolec states that, according to the Andromeda Council, the function of this celestial body upgrade is a part of the evolution of our solar system from a 3rd dimension to a 4th dimension solar system and will include Earth and our human civilization in this transformation by dimensional shift.

FAQ: Celestial body upgrade of our solar system

Tolec discusses key aspects of this celestial body upgrade of our solar system. A written summary of these reported coming upgrades, according to the Andromeda Council, is below.

For an extended discussion of each of the items in this FAQ, including important material not included in this article, please listen to Parts I and II of the ExopoliticsTV interview (above).

FAQ: ELENIN, TEKOMA and NIBIRU

The Facts about each of these Celestial Bodies

www.andromedacouncil.com

1.) “What is – Elenin?

ANSWER: “It is a natural celestial body, a small comet, but made up of more rock than ice and gas. It literally ‘clears the way’ for the arrival of Tekoma (Tay koe-mah), a brown dwarf about the size of Uranus, trailing behind it. Elenin with its elliptical orbit will come into Earth’s solar system, in a manner of speaking deposit Tekoma, and then leave.”

2.) “Many people on Earth are aware of a pyramid shape that now seems to be located in place of, or covering Elenin. What is this about?”

ANSWER: “We are aware of technology, a monitoring device if you will, that is projecting a pyramid shaped force field over the general area of comet Elenin. It seems only when a problem would occur in space would this device be activated such as it was. It seems this technology is also keeping Elenin and Tekoma on course to minimize possible disruptions by Tekoma to Earth’s solar system.”

3.) “Then why is Elenin coming toward Earth’s solar system?”

ANSWER: “Elenin is simply clearing the way for Tekoma.”

4.) “Will the arrival of Elenin itself directly cause any disruptions or Earth changes?”

ANSWER: “no.”

5.) “Then what is Tekoma?”

ANSWER: “It is a brown dwarf about the size of the planet Uranus. It should arrive in Earth’s solar system approximately this coming mid-October 2011; and is expected to settle into this solar system as a new, albeit smaller, not quite as bright - second sun. It is expected to settle in place between Venus & Earth but much closer to Venus, than to Earth.”

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-...anges-4d-earth


Andromeda Council - Reaching Out With Help Across The Heavens (list of members)

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/about.html

Leading up to this upliftment, this shift in Earth’s vibration into the next highest density, the 4th - a war in space, in many cases happening just outside of 'Earth space' over the course of approximately nine (9) years of Earth time, is as of this third quarter of 2011 in the final clean-up phase. This war is finally over. Done. Finished. As Tolec for the Andromeda Council, I can tell you my colleagues had a long, hard, difficult war. I will add, this war is being won by ‘the good guys’… by the combined forces of the member star systems & planets of the Andromeda Council, those with Earth and Earth humans best interests in their hearts, minds & souls.

This proxy war to free Earth, from thousands of years of negative energy bombardment, manipulation and control, was fought on behalf of Earth - by star system & planetary council member races of the: Andromeda Council. Those members that bore the brunt of the burden, did the greatest amount of fighting included: Arcturus, Tau Ceti, and Procyon. The contributions of the Procyon people were especially valuable because they learned the weaknesses of these malevolent menaces - they learned how to 'sniff ' them out & beat them. The people of Procyon just recently liberated themselves within the past 12 years of Earth time.

[princesslovercup]

TY snowbird. Lots to look up.

[Snowbird]

Posted by princesslovercup (here)
TY snowbird. Lots to look up.

Welcome princesslovercup!

Fortunately/unfortunately, this is what we have to do in order to find the truths that we need to go forward. We have to wade through much information to arrive at our individual destinations.

[truthseekerdan]

Isn't it interesting that NASA finds something to distract us during the Elenin alignment... and we are not supposed to notice this?

"NASA now predicts that the dead bus-size UARS satellite will fall to Earth on Sept. 24, give or take one day. The satellite is plunging to Earth to end a 20-year spaceflight."

Source: http://www.space.com/12982-dead-nasa...h-sept-24.html

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
i'm reminded of the of the blue star kachina prophecy, in that it will unmask itself suddenly and without warning.

to me that part of the prophecy sounds like the object is cloaked and then the shield (mask) is dropped and it becomes visible. if what that tolec guy says is true then we'll see the prophecy coming true as well, and very soon.