Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by norman (here)
Elenin or no Elenin.........

Can some of you experts put this to bed for me?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

Hi Norman ...It looks very bright but I think it is Venus ...

Check on Stellarium...

viking

[Forevernyt]

You know, I've heard a lot of talk about synchronicity. I subscribe to Netflix streaming (no it's not a commercial). Recently, the old cartoon Star Blazers has become available. Now this is a show that my friends and I would run home to watch after school every weekday. Anyhow, getting to the point, in the second season of Star Blazers, the enemy they faced was called, "The Comet Empire".



Enough to make you say, "hmmmmm".

Seriously though, I don't see anything happening with whatever is left of Elenin. If it does, I'll be pleasantly surprised, either way. If it doesn't, then we're all back to square one, so to speak.

Peace.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by norman (here)
Elenin or no Elenin.........

Can some of you experts put this to bed for me?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

It's a hole in the cloud. (!)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by winston smith1971 (here)
"All of history, as we know it, has been revised, rewritten, twisted and tweaked by selfishly motivated men to achieve and maintain control over other men. When one can understand that everything is comprised of “energy” and that even physical matter is “coalesced” energy, and that all energy emanates from God’s thought, one can accept the idea that the successful focusing of millions of minds on one expected happening will cause it to happen." AND THEY CALLED HIS NAME IMMANUEL *** I AM SANANDA – By Sananda & Judas Iscarioth A Phoenix Journal
Hi Cider excellent post, I feel the above could be true if God's is replace with OUR, then we truly are the creators, various physicist and other experts researchers etc. say about atoms being particles waves and beams that change when observed or have other forces put upon them, everything is energy and it can be manipulated. Once we lock into our power and can manipulate reality we will become gods, but we may leave our physical and join one consciousness or creator but something feels like it is in the air, changes are a foot and hopefully with a mass awakening gaining momentum then hopefully a miraculous or powerful change can occur.

Hello Winston ... spot on...

viking

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Elenin or no Elenin.........

Can some of you experts put this to bed for me?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

It's a hole in the cloud. (!)

Hi Bill

No it's not. Holes in clouds move along with the cloud. Or did I miss your sense of humour?

Its probably Venus...

viking

[Elixer]

I thought it was funny to hear Hoagland more or less beg people to use some common sense with regards to the 'Elenin is a Brown dwarf' thing, seeing how his perspective is the furthest from common sense to most ('normal') people.

Though I'm not always impressed with Kerry's speaking abilities, on this call I was. I thought she was indeed the better speaker, citing many references, pulling various perspectives together, answering questions while not answering those she couldn't and inserting a subtle plug for the conference as well. Very nice.

[Hervé]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Elenin or no Elenin.........

Can some of you experts put this to bed for me?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

It's a hole in the cloud. (!)

Hi Bill!

Thanks for the ... glad you didn't specify what kind of cloud you meant...

[Heather2017]

Posted by Agape (here)
I do not feel free to speak among the screaming voices...

You misunderstand so many things that even to start explaining them to you feels futile...

How can anyone explain something more complicated to screaming crowd of 'know-it'alls ' .

Peace and Love

Hi Agape. Who are the people behaving like a screaming crowd of know-it-alls? Pretty harsh words.

Sounds like you're saying you have a better understanding of some of these topics, but we don't deserve to hear your views?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Heather

[aranuk]

Posted by viking (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Elenin or no Elenin.........

Can some of you experts put this to bed for me?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

Hi Norman ...It looks very bright but I think it is Venus ...

Check on Stellarium...

viking

Can anyone remember tha date of this video? Was it 14th Sept? I just checked it was. So it is NOT Venus. Venus was 8deg away from Sun that is approximately 16 moon diameters away as we see it from Earth.

Stan

[Allura]

Stan, yes, it was Sept. 14, 2011...at least, that is when it was posted. It could have been filmed any time prior to that date.

[Hervé]

Posted by aranuk (here)
[...]

Can anyone remember tha date of this video? Was it 14th Sept? I just checked it was. So it is NOT Venus. Venus was 8deg away from Sun that is approximately 16 moon diameters away as we see it from Earth.

Stan

Remember this: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post310327 ?

[aceninja]

Well, with that said, I guess we blew up an ET controlled improvised carrier. Wasn't it a CME that destroyed it? If there was any malevolent intent behind the whole Elenin thing, this confirms that we are being protected at a higher level.

I take this to mean: "They are worrying about the things we have no control over, so why don't we focus our energies on things we personally have influence over such as the NWO agenda, our good health, growing spiritually and consciously?"

I didn't like the hype over Elenin, BUT as I've said earlier I think it's best to keep these things in the back of our minds and wait for other pieces to be shown before passing judgment. We of all people should know not to become arrogant in our ignorance. It's best to be atleast a fence sitter, than a hard skeptic for everything. If it's not true or disinfo just discard it and keep moving!

Posted by Kerry Cassidy (here)
Hi all,

Thank you for the kind words re my contribution to that show...

Re Elenin... it's not your normal comet but it is not Planet X either. I don't see it as an 'orchestrated side show' the show goes on regardless on many levels and stages simultaneously. It is a controlled object possibly even piloted in my view based on evidence, whistleblower testimony and Hoagland's data so far. I can tell you, Bill have never listened to our 5 hour conference on Elenin and so you won't be up to speed on the info presented there. It's an excellent detailed discussion and I sent you free access a long while back. I suggest you listen :-)

You will learn among other things that the points along the trajectory have a trillion to one odds of occurring in exactly the way they were/are happening so something is up on this... NASA and what goes on in space ala the secret space program is using symbolism and if you don't understand or grasp the significance of this "language" you need to go back to the early work of Jordan Maxwell for a refresher course.

Regardless, I don't see Elenin as the big harbinger of consciousness change that Hoagland does... It is important merely as yet another object being steered into our solar system for some purpose. And remember, they lie to us, they lie to us and yes, they lie to us. To paraphrase Hoagland LOL... so don't believe this is merely a nice little ordinary comet. There are a few non-ordinary comet like objects out there by the way.. YU55 is another one and so is something near Elenin called Gerrard or something like that. Who knows what they are doing? Considering that objects can be maneuvered by beings and used as craft there's no telling how many of them are being used in this way... and for what purpose.

I also don't think this is a distraction... it's valid as is tracking various other space objects, craft etc visiting our sector ...see solar warden for more on this :-)

People are still aware of the economy, the wars being started, instigated etc and the earth changes happening... It's all going on simultaneously. Clues to follow and a storyline to unravel. In my view, staying awake and aware of all of it is worthwhile and makes life interesting besides.

See you at the Awake & Aware conference!!

Best wishes,

Kerry

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Aranuk/Allura

Yes I have checked the position of venus against the video... if you look at the video the white spot is about 9.00 ish (position)... if you check stellarium it starts at about 7.00 ish and then eventually gets to about after 9.00 about 3.00pm ...I estimate that the time this video was taken is between 3.00 - 4.00 pm ... yes on stellarium the spot appears to be closer...but if you take away the flaring of the sun and replace it with a much smaller spot for the position of the sun then Venus would appear to be further away... I am now certain that this is Venus ... keep on trucking...

viking

[norman]

It looks very BIG for Venus!

[aranuk]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
[...]

Can anyone remember tha date of this video? Was it 14th Sept? I just checked it was. So it is NOT Venus. Venus was 8deg away from Sun that is approximately 16 moon diameters away as we see it from Earth.

Stan

Remember this: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post310327 ?

AZ Of course I do and in that thread I saw a clear bright orb close to the sun. That was in North Wales and at 1 pm, I saw his watch, he showed it to camera. But I didn't say it was Venus. You mentioned Venus didn't you not? On that day at that time in that place Venus was 8 degrees away from sun. 16 Moon diameters as it would appear to us on Earth.

[Agape]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by viking (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Elenin or no Elenin.........

Can some of you experts put this to bed for me?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

Hi Norman ...It looks very bright but I think it is Venus ...

Check on Stellarium...

viking

Can anyone remember tha date of this video? Was it 14th Sept? I just checked it was. So it is NOT Venus. Venus was 8deg away from Sun that is approximately 16 moon diameters away as we see it from Earth.

Stan

Nonsense. 16 moon diameters away ? How comes


Venus is supposed to be somewhere behind the Sun ( from Earth observers view ) at the moment, or very close to it , in what's considered 'superior transit ' from 'Earth'.

http://www.transitofvenus.org/

Could be a circular cloud .

[1159]

Of all things I am most happy to see Bill and Kerry converse (sort of) on the same thread. It's been a while ... the steel and the stone always works well together IMHO.

[aranuk]

Posted by norman (here)
It looks very BIG for Venus!

Thank you Norman! I would guess it is twice as big as Venus. Does anyone remember seeing the video of Venus passing across the suns face about ten or twelve years ago? It was about slightly bigger than half the size.

Stan

[Hervé]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Remember this: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post310327 ?

AZ Of course I do and in that thread I saw a clear bright orb close to the sun. That was in North Wales and at 1 pm, I saw his watch, he showed it to camera. But I didn't say it was Venus. You mentioned Venus didn't you not? On that day at that time in that place Venus was 8 degrees away from sun. 16 Moon diameters as it would appear to us on Earth.

The 1 pm video was from the next day, Sept. 15 (check the link I provided and further down I posted the links to his latest videos). As anyone else I was surprised that Venus could be seen in broad daylight and took it as a possibility due to digital cameras oddities.

Apparent size of Moon and Sun are identical from Earth (hence eclipses). Therefore the distance from the Sun could be determined from the Sun's size on the video (actual size, not the size of the halo/haze).

This can be appreciated at the very beginning of his first video when the Sun is behind the cloud but the orb isn't. Then when the sun comes out of the cloud, the distance orb-Sun seems to have "shrunk" due to the halo effect of sun on the haze.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Heather2012 (here)
Hi Agape. Who are the people behaving like a screaming crowd of know-it-alls? Pretty harsh words.

Sounds like you're saying you have a better understanding of some of these topics, but we don't deserve to hear your views?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Heather

Agape had a different perspective, a valuable one in my (rather limited) view.

Others do not determine what we "deserve" to hear; we each determine, moment by shifting moment, what we are willing and able to hear.

[aranuk]

Posted by Agape (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by viking (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Elenin or no Elenin.........

Can some of you experts put this to bed for me?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UtEO0J3nRs

Hi Norman ...It looks very bright but I think it is Venus ...

Check on Stellarium...

viking

Can anyone remember tha date of this video? Was it 14th Sept? I just checked it was. So it is NOT Venus. Venus was 8deg away from Sun that is approximately 16 moon diameters away as we see it from Earth.

Stan

Nonsense. 16 moon diameters away ? How comes


Venus is supposed to be somewhere behind the Sun ( from Earth observers view ) at the moment, or very close to it , in what's considered 'superior transit ' from 'Earth'.

http://www.transitofvenus.org/

Could be a circular cloud .

STAN: My ephemeris says that is was 8 degrees conjunct the Sun and also my Solar Fire program says the same thing. UNLESS some ET's out there are making it move against its orbit and interfering with it in some way it was 8 degrees away from the centre of the sun. The moon normally and roughly the sun too are half a degree wide (diameter) about the same width as a womans pinky tip holding an outstretched arm towards the sun. Please take my word for it I am becoming bored now with all this explaining.