Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[ulli]

Bill Ryan posted this on another thread and he has more clout on this forum than I do
and I completely agree with what he is saying here.
It was amateur astronomers who helped me get out of a Nibiru scare back in 2002 when I got sucked in by the Zetatalk fearmongerers.
So I'm crossposting this from another thread.

Bill Ryan:The thing to remember here is that there are thousands (maybe tens of thousands!) of competent, knowledgeable amateur astronomers in every developed corner of the world. Most of them are independent and are not funded or employed by institutions.

If there were any major anomalies visible with an optical telescope, they would be shouting from the rooftops. And competing with one another to add their names to a new discovery.

The only major problem out there is likely to be Planet X, which is not yet visible optically. As best I understand, it's still a few years out. It's probably currently visible in the infrared, though, through means not available to citizens (and certainly not visible in a cellphone camera).

Human consciousness affects reality, and the more focus is sent out there,
with the expectation of some major event,
even though it won't "create" the comet into existence
it nevertheless will create phenomena that would correspond with the expected fall-out.
This is what mind manipulation is all about.

In May of 1988 there was a massive earthquake scare in LA and many who could afford to get out left,
believing it was going to be "the big one".
On the appointed day a fire broke out in one of the tall downtown buildings on the 14th floor, and it engulfed several floors.
Whether the psychics who had made the predictions had seen the building on fire in their vision,
and assumed it to be caused by the quake, I don't know. I just remember thinking it was odd.
Anyway, there was no quake that day.
I made a mental note.

[Hervé]

I don't think Astroblogger read my post...

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]
Could be a good idea to take a video at sunrise/set to see it better.

And if indeed it is Venus, then pictures of it could be taken from anywhere

but here it is:

Sunday, September 18, 2011

Venus Returns (September 2011)




Venus captured in the twilight after sunset (6:35 pm ACST, Sunday September 18), you will need to click to embiggen to see the dot that is Venus (indicated by arrow).

As I noted yesterday, Venus is now visible from where I live. It's lucky I live fairly close to the ocean, as you really need to have a clear unobstructed horizon to see Venus in the twilight. However, it will climb higher in the evening sky as the month progresses, until it dominates our early evening skies.
Labels: unaided eye observation, Venus

From: http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/

(click on picture to see an enlargement... Venus is really, really very tiny... good point for you Norman)

[Agape]

The Ephemeris we both probably use is geocentric not heliocentric ephemeris unless you state otherwise . 8 degrees from the Sun is with relation to the Earth observer.

These are astronomical degrees though approximate , not angular degrees .

I understand what you mean ..

[onawah]

Posted by ulli (here)
Bill Ryan posted this on another thread and he has more clout on this forum than I do
and I completely agree with what he is saying here.
It was amateur astronomers who helped me get out of a Nibiru scare back in 2002 when I got sucked in by the Zetatalk fearmongerers.
So I'm crossposting this from another thread.

Posted by Bill Ryan
The thing to remember here is that there are thousands (maybe tens of thousands!) of competent, knowledgeable amateur astronomers in every developed corner of the world. Most of them are independent and are not funded or employed by institutions.

If there were any major anomalies visible with an optical telescope, they would be shouting from the rooftops. And competing with one another to add their names to a new discovery.

The only major problem out there is likely to be Planet X, which is not yet visible optically. As best I understand, it's still a few years out. It's probably currently visible in the infrared, though, through means not available to citizens (and certainly not visible in a cellphone camera).

Bill Ryan, are you referring to the brown dwarf when you use the term "Planet X" ?
(Inasmuch as that is a star, not a planet, I think we need a different name for it.)
On the other hand, if you are referring to Nibiru, I would be very grateful if you would give your views as to whether or not it exists, where you think it is, when it might arrive in our solar system, and what kind of impact it might have.
If you do not agree with Bob Dean, would you please tell us what source of info you do credit with being correct?
Thanks!
(Maybe we need a new thread for that discussion. I know we've had it before, but the information and our various takes on it keep changing. )

[ghostrider]

if elenin is gone then we shouldn't have anymore earthquakes in sync with alignments, or sinkholes, or mass animal deaths, or the sun burning hotter and hotter.

[Agape]

Posted by Heather2012 (here)

Posted by Agape (here)
I do not feel free to speak among the screaming voices...

You misunderstand so many things that even to start explaining them to you feels futile...

How can anyone explain something more complicated to screaming crowd of 'know-it'alls ' .

Peace and Love

Hi Agape. Who are the people behaving like a screaming crowd of know-it-alls? Pretty harsh words.

Sounds like you're saying you have a better understanding of some of these topics, but we don't deserve to hear your views?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Heather

It has very nothing to do with 'not deserving the truth' Heather .

If all the 'truth' ( views ) you expect to get and that's what Kerry and hundreds of other media shows are repeatedly asking and speaking about at the moment ,

and please don't read my words wrong , I mean no disregards to any of them,

is 2012, Elenin the Comet, secret NASA missions, faked landings on the Moon, secret landings on the Moon, bases on Mars, jumprooms to Mars, stargates we use to travel to another galaxies and back, Annunaki and more Annunaki ( who is that please asks IG command ) , Ascension and so and so forth..

great topics indeed . I mean no offense to Kerry, Bill or anyone else whatsoever but even if I get on show on all these topics it will be 333 s show , your show, your never cleared confusion.

Starting from wrong A can't make you arrive to correct B unless by chance and the chance is well number times more than trillion.


So you kind of expect, no sorry ..I know you expect nothing

You don't expect anyone to know unless they would prove it . You did not read or hear what I have to say and did not ask me anything..

because I don't come around from second hand research store and life of Mars as it's customary.


No, please consider this is loving kindness from me ..letting my tounge slip . It should not perhaps ..

[Agape]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
if elenin is gone then we shouldn't have anymore earthquakes in sync with alignments, or sinkholes, or mass animal deaths, or the sun burning hotter and hotter.

Sorry . There will be still ..earthquakes ..earth is young and unstable, it has living vulcanos , seismic activity , lots of heat under your feet you could use for your wellfare in fact .
It's not comets causing this . Planetary alignments can of course influence harmonics of each body but it changes very little in the age and physical evolution of planets in current time period of the solar system .

It's almost like astrology ..these alignments. They can explain everything but change nothing.

There's tectonic activity so also there wil be few sinkholes.

Sun may get hotter over next several millions of years .. if we survive till then we will get solution.

[Hervé]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
if elenin is gone then we shouldn't have anymore earthquakes in sync with alignments, or sinkholes, or mass animal deaths, or the sun burning hotter and hotter.

Think of it as Elenin having been a decoy all along, what actually created all these EQs, birds microwaved in mid-flights, strange tornadoes and huricanes paths, etc...? And "technology" enters into the picture.

[HORIZONS]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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I'm also concerned about California the end of September....

I came across this several hours after reading your post - Interesting reading.

SPIRAL TO ECONOMIC DISASTER - A PHOENIX JOURNAL - 1989
Let us speak of that place within the United States called by ye ones as California, There will not be a place within that State which shall be as is, for there shall be a great purging, and a great overflowing; teeming and seething of the masses beneath the waters, and a great sinking of that which is above; not a place shall be left untouched within the earth. But there shall be areas of protection whereby the land masses will be thrust upward into an altitude above the onrushing waters. Islands will be left thrust above the waters. The seed of the beginning will be kept in safety for the replenishment of these portions. ... Great numbers of ones shall find themselves swimming in their beds--and the whirlwind shall catch them up.
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_04.pdf

[KiwiElf]

I agree with Bill: "Expect the unexpected!" In whatever form and whenever these situations occur will be COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED.

Did we "expect" 9/11?
Did we "expect" JFK's assassination?
Did we "expect" Pearl Harbour?

"110 years ago we "knew" we couldn't fly. Only hundreds of years before that and we "knew" the world was flat and the Universe revolved around the Earth. What do we really "know?"

[steveofengland]

I recall one scientist scoffed at the idea that elenin was a brown dwarf star saying "a body with a Jupiter mass would start causing problems not just to earth, but to every planet in the solar system. And these effects would be seen long before it even entered the solar system"
So could it be the case that all the changes we are seeing not only on earth but other planets too are being influenced by a brown dwarf star that is getting close to the outer edges of the solar system.
And if this is the case we may never see it, as by the time it gets to the inner solar system we will have been wiped out?

[TWINCANS]

Posted by Kerry Cassidy (here)
Regardless, I don't see Elenin as the big harbinger of consciousness change that Hoagland does... It is important merely as yet another object being steered into our solar system for some purpose. And remember, they lie to us, they lie to us and yes, they lie to us.

I think it has been lobbed at us. For what purpose? The usual one of creating fear and chaos, and then harvesting.

Thanks for your interesting work.

[Houman]

No need for speculations when the (filtered) info is in the public domain...
Houman

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...shrinking.html
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...darkfireworks/
http://www.baycitizen.org/blogs/puls...-solar-storms/
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...8aug_cmemovie/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0331114935.htm
http://www.space.com/12649-nasa-sola...medium=twitter
http://www.myweathertech.com/2011/08...in-washington/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20226499
http://www.cbs8.com/story/15287018/m...n-diego-county
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ity-grid-risk/
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1936...-earth-sun.htm
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceno...o-hot-clo.html
http://iopscience.iop.org/0004-637X/731/1/56
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ons-power.html

[thewebkid]

I actually have a flight to CA scheduled 9/29 for the longevity now conference (and I have an extra ticket in case anyone wants to get their nutrition on with me).

This is a super strange thread to read after looking forward to hanging out with all the healthiest eaters in the world in a few days. What a strange time for a disaster to strike. I think I will still go though since nothing major has ever been predicted by any in these alternative circles. Prolly more likely that a ridiculous amount of well-being will be spread down there (you know what I mean if you have ever heard David Wolfe speak).

[apokalypse]

researchers and the theories is not the problem but the problem is they based on false/disformation from whistleblower or insider so we must beaware of this.

[Calz]

Not psychic or intuitive information but this may have some bearing on the current situation for the west coast. Several days ago Dutchsinse did a video showing all the earthquake activity around the world and he focused on how the entire ring of fire/pacific rim was experiencing 6+ quakes except for usa west coast and central america.

I believe there was a 5.8 today in central america.

Anyway ... simply suggests a building of pressure on the plate(s) that might be released on the west coast soon.

Who knows?


https://youtube.com/user/dutchsin.../1/0BALOHIFxyM

[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this update...

Many World Leaders Will Be In Recess During The Elenin Alignment

In a strange coincidence of anomalies, many world leaders and politicians will be in recess during the next alignment with ‘Comet’ Elenin.


The United Nations has an empty schedule from September 23rd through October 10th, 2011.

The UK Parliament is in recess from September 15th through October 10th, 2011.

The United States Congress is on vacation from September 25th through October 2nd, 2011.

Germany’s President’s schedule is empty after September 25, 2011.

In a related story, there are many scheduled conferences in Colorado, where one of the world’s largest Deep Underground Military Bunkers (D.U.M.B.s) is located:



http://www.in5d.com/world-leaders-wi...uring-elenin-a...

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viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey I suppose its all just coincidence!! ...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EAxFmEtFc2s

viking

[The Truth Is In There]

well, even if i'm alone in saying this, i still believe that elenin is one of the main players in the game. unless tptb created the mayan calendar and all those endtime prophecies as a form of disinfo, first and foremost the bible and hopi prophecies, then there's absolutely zero chance that what's going to happen is totally "man-made". and whatever happens until october 28th, i firmly believe that afterwards everyone will get their personal truth, only some won't like it.

edit: just finished watching the video. what hoagland says about elenin at the end (around 55:00 min) makes a lot of sense to me, and it would fulfill another part of the blue kachina prophecy.

[transiten]

Posted by thewebkid (here)
I actually have a flight to CA scheduled 9/29 for the longevity now conference (and I have an extra ticket in case anyone wants to get their nutrition on with me).

This is a super strange thread to read after looking forward to hanging out with all the healthiest eaters in the world in a few days. What a strange time for a disaster to strike. I think I will still go though since nothing major has ever been predicted by any in these alternative circles. Prolly more likely that a ridiculous amount of well-being will be spread down there (you know what I mean if you have ever heard David Wolfe speak).

He he, this imminent disaster is not compatible with my agenda either! And by the way, my best astrocartographylines run through Seattle and Vancouver which menas i resonate with pple from that area even if i can't go there myself. In Seattle one can study astrology at the university and i've referred to the speech of Indian chief Seattle many times, even if as some say it was a screen play...

Apocalypso