WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[David Hughes]

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[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Tyler!

I have to admit that every time that I think of a stampede of lambs, I smile. The visual of that really speaks to me. I have been around lambs only a few times, but have been charmed.

Best,

Wade

[eaglespirit]

It IS Happening! ...in my circle of souls : )

[Tony]

I can guarantee they are NOT meditating!

[Wade Frazier]

Ok, about those lambs (awesome pic, eaglespirit! ). The stampede that I envision is made of sentient and loving lambs which have shed their herd instincts. As Seth said, animals never feel disconnected from the Creator. They never “lose” it, like humans have, as we constantly search for God, or now have “wisely” declared that there is no such thing as a Creator (Hawking’s recent embarrassing manifesto makes that statement, just like his buddies did http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#hawking). Losing that conscious connection is part of the price of becoming sentient here. There is an integrity to animal behavior that us “smart” humans can barely fathom. That could be part of the “meditative” demeanor that you may be detecting, Tyler. Seth said that you can learn more from truly observing an animal than you can learn from all of the literature ever written.

As Seth said, collective efforts engaged in by people who are acting from common intention and their individuality in full flower, is perhaps the most powerful force on the planet. Jesus’s “when two or more of you are gathered” is the same idea, I think. And if love is the root of their intention, look out...

Those lambs will be awake and loving, and what people like me are hoping to bring to the table is worldliness. Naïveté is no crime, but it must be shed along the way, for the FE journey. Everybody that I respect in the FE field began their journey naively, and we lost our naïveté honestly. It is one of the prices of admission, I think. Again, helping as many navigate to Level 12:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

without getting stuck in the lower levels of inventor-itis, Young Warrior delusions, the capitalist game, paranoia, and so forth, is my game. It is like walking the razors’ edge to get there, but the path is real and navigable, for those with a love of the truth and whose hearts are in the right place.

Best,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Thank you, Wade! I am really looking forward to reading all your material. Would someone be kind enough to tell me what ATS means?

[ulli]

Posted by shamanseeker (here)
Thank you, Wade! I am really looking forward to reading all your material. Would someone be kind enough to tell me what ATS means?

it is a website and forum and stands for Above Top Secret.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hello

I have stumbled upon two threads on Avalon
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...gms#post134753
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post311746
hosting splendid cartoon presentations by London based organization RSAnimate. First of these presentations describes shortcomings of modern "education" and second talks about research confirming we are not natural born killers. I was amazed by quality and humor of both.

And here is my issue I wanted to bring on. I was wondering if they would dare to make such presentation on topic of free energy Do you think it is feasible idea to even ask them about it? And it would be necessary to prepare some script they could base the cartoon on and put some money (probably pretty much ) on the table... Do you think we could cook something like that together?

I am sorry to bother you with my idea...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi shamanseeker:

You can find out about ATS and my experiences with them, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

You can see that one troll camped on the thread, and when another troll joined, one who had already played his games with me, then ATS banned me, leading me to believe that ATS may indeed be a disinfo operation, although they might simply be incompetent (or is far too sophisticated a forum for me to participate in ). I highly doubt that any forum like that will get very far when its participants are anonymous. The conversation that I plan to mount will not have anonymous participants.

I had made posts in forums where I had seen my work discussed for years, but it rarely went well (almost invariably, people would attack me). I hoped that ATS would be a place where subject matter like mine would not quite be so mind-blowing. To a degree, that was true, but trolls also infested the place. I began several threads designed to explore the very topics that I am exploring here at Avalon, and put the trolls on “ignore,” but others began fighting them (known as “feeding the troll”), and the threads eventually strayed far from my intention, with troll fights, naïve engineers who just had to touch an FE machine in action before they would admit that they were possible, and so on. It has been difficult enough to keep this thread centered on my intentions without trolls having a field day.

At ATS, a New Agey dude joined and offered me my own forum, and I posted to it. However, anybody could join, and Mr. Skeptic showed up within weeks. Not long afterward, the New Agey dude completely wiped out my forum, without even asking me about it. I am not sure what happened, but Mr. Skeptic sprayed his venom wherever he could, and everybody who has featured my work since 1998 soon received a visit from him. I have seen and borne the brunt of his handiwork, and it is pretty creepy. He first tries the affable skeptic routine, and when that does not work, he begins unloading a disinformation bomb, full of obfuscations, twisted logic, and outright lies. When he has been caught in his lies, he never apologizes, but also never quite tells the lie the same way again, and comes up with new lies. That is how disinfo people work. When I demonstrated how “perceptive” his crackpot page was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#crackpots

he quietly removed the more egregious entries that I dissected. When his Skeptical Inquirer article on Dennis was easily exposed as libelous:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

he abandoned that particular instance of outright lying and began his disinformation pitch a little differently, without ever acknowledging that he previously knowingly lied about Dennis:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...s_Lee#Skeptics

and all the things that he says that Dennis never discloses, in that post at the link above, are among Mr. Skeptic’s new lies. Mr. Skeptic can be counted on to spin it as darkly as he can, and although he begins his post by saying that he has read Dennis’s books, he turns around and lies outright when he says that Dennis does not mention Bo Gritz, the bounced checks, the failed card business that reincarnated as the Discover Card, and so on. Dennis discloses all of those events in his books, in pretty good detail. Mr. Skeptic’s approach relies on people being lazy, stupid, and gullible, and it is amazing to watch people fall under his spell, people who should know better.

Mr. Skeptic has stalked me on the Internet since 1998, spewing his disinformation wherever I went. He sometimes showed up the same day that I appeared. Because Internet forums come and go without a trace, few of his attacks are viewable today (he mounted a particularly disgusting attack at Guerilla News Network around 2002), but one of his more polite versions has survived:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/200...8.shtml#251272

I was at ATS for several months, and Mr. Skeptic never joined the party, but appeared at that New Agey forum right after I joined it during that same time period. Either he knew that the ATS trolls would do his work for him, or he actually worked with them. It is hard to say which one was the case, but I suspect the latter. That persistent ATS troll seemed like a professional, and more than one person may have been doing it; his first posts were rather infantile, but they became more sophisticated later.

So, after I was banned at ATS, I decided that open Internet forums could not successfully host conversations led by people like me, and I decided that when I got the energy essay completed, I would have to mount my own invitation-only forum. So, it was a very pleasant surprise that Bill came to the same conclusion that I did about all-comers forums and began this forum. My participation in other forums could be considered practice for this one.

Hi Robert:

I have already mentioned that I keep turning down opportunities to be on TV. I have also turned down opportunities to do cartoons and other media. While I like cartoons (and I have enjoyed a few RSAnimate presentations before), what I am trying to do on the FE front is aiming way higher than cartoons, slogans, T-shirts and the like. Dennis did stuff like that at times, and that shoots pretty low, IMO. I am trying to aim high. It is like I said before; the mass media creates an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep.

While I appreciate you thinking about RSAnimate to get out the FE idea, I am trying to use Avalon and the Internet in ways that there does not need to be money changing hands. When money gets involved, the peril leaps up an order of magnitude or two, and this cloistered environment at Avalon can give people a false sense of security. Godzilla is watching, and many people, both on Godzilla’s payroll and free-lancing, would love to wreck what I am doing, and one of the easiest ways to take me out is to have money-raising somehow connected with what I am doing. I have never solicited money for my efforts, and don’t plan to. Raising money to do cartoons is not what I am about, that is for sure. For trying to play the mass media game with FE, we’ll see how Thrive does.

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Thank you Wade for your response I remember you writing about being reluctant to public stunts. And I was feeling somehow uneasy when it came to me money raising would be necessary. I just thought this particualr animator would be more honest than others. My naivete

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Robert:

If they were real honest, they would do the job for free. I know, that is Peter Pan speaking.

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

I have not communicated with RSAnimate in regard of FE animation yet. I don't know how much they charge for an animation project.

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Well Wade, what a blessing that you're a member of this forum! Just started reading today and I'm beyond words.....

Thankyou from transiten

[ulli]

Hi Wade. Mr. Skeptic's name was Eric Krieg? I followed a link you gave and saw his post.
There was a discussion here about names being connected with one's profession, or being.
"Krieg" is the German word for war...as in Blitzkrieg, etc.
Anyway, when a person has that kind of a name, watch out. I would have avoided him, too.
Maybe I might have countered the accusation of avoidance with:
"Change your name to Fried, (peace) and I might be willing to dialogue."
There are no coincidences, especially when it comes to names.

[transiten]

Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)
I have not communicated with RSAnimate in regard of FE animation yet. I don't know how much they charge for an animation project.

Hi Robert!

I live in Gothenburg and we've got that "gun in a knot" monument in the center of the city as well!

And ulli, there's a swedish female name "Gun", but that's not what it means in english...By the way isn't there a german word "kriegen" that means "to get"?

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[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ulli:

Yes, that is his name. He already got a lot of my time, before he took his mask off:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

Once somebody takes their mask off, I am finished with them:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#darkness

I gave him the benefit of the doubt, until there was no more doubt to give him. His “I am avoiding him” ruse, because I am somehow avoiding the truth and the light of “skepticism,” is another one of his lies. A wise man once said to never debate liars or fools, partly because the audience will have difficulty telling who the liar or fool is. He is well-known in the FE community as a complete fraud of an “investigator” and “skeptic.” His $10K offer for a working FE device is about the most inane thing I have ever heard of. People with the Real McCoy get the offer they can’t refuse, for a few zeroes more than he offers. Somebody with a quadrillion dollar technology is going to rush to prove it to Mr. Skeptic to get their $10K payday, a man who has repeatedly demonstrated his dishonesty. Right.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#quadrillion

His mentor James Randi is infamous for his own bogus challenge:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#randi

Mr. Skeptic is famous for attacking Dennis in print and on TV. That Dennis was his first and largest target is kind of an honor. That he is famous for his “skeptical” efforts is some of the best evidence I have seen for how fraudulent the entire “skeptical” movement is. Yes, maybe there is something about his name that speaks to his motivation, but we can’t help what name we were given.

But really, he is not worth the time for anybody here, other than being an instructive lesson on how establishment hacks operate. He is probably on the payroll:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#skeptic

but maybe his ego keeps him on his crusade. To find me wherever I appear on the Internet, and quickly, means that he either does not have a life, or is a professional. Brian O had his own stalker, cut from similar cloth as Mr. Skeptic, and the man was likely a professional. The pros are real. When the “skeptics” and other low level harassers aren’t effective, then the Big Boys start playing rough.

Best,

Wade

Hi transiten:

Welcome, and happy reading,

Wade

[shamanseeker]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
Hi shamanseeker:

You can find out about ATS and my experiences with them, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

You can see that one troll camped on the thread, and when another troll joined, one who had already played his games with me, then ATS banned me, leading me to believe that ATS may indeed be a disinfo operation, although they might simply be incompetent (or is far too sophisticated a forum for me to participate in ). I highly doubt that any forum like that will get very far when its participants are anonymous. The conversation that I plan to mount will not have anonymous participants.

I had made posts in forums where I had seen my work discussed for years, but it rarely went well (almost invariably, people would attack me). I hoped that ATS would be a place where subject matter like mine would not quite be so mind-blowing. To a degree, that was true, but trolls also infested the place. I began several threads designed to explore the very topics that I am exploring here at Avalon, and put the trolls on “ignore,” but others began fighting them (known as “feeding the troll”), and the threads eventually strayed far from my intention, with troll fights, naïve engineers who just had to touch an FE machine in action before they would admit that they were possible, and so on. It has been difficult enough to keep this thread centered on my intentions without trolls having a field day.

At ATS, a New Agey dude joined and offered me my own forum, and I posted to it. However, anybody could join, and Mr. Skeptic showed up within weeks. Not long afterward, the New Agey dude completely wiped out my forum, without even asking me about it. I am not sure what happened, but Mr. Skeptic sprayed his venom wherever he could, and everybody who has featured my work since 1998 soon received a visit from him. I have seen and borne the brunt of his handiwork, and it is pretty creepy. He first tries the affable skeptic routine, and when that does not work, he begins unloading a disinformation bomb, full of obfuscations, twisted logic, and outright lies. When he has been caught in his lies, he never apologizes, but also never quite tells the lie the same way again, and comes up with new lies. That is how disinfo people work. When I demonstrated how “perceptive” his crackpot page was:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#crackpots

he quietly removed the more egregious entries that I dissected. When his Skeptical Inquirer article on Dennis was easily exposed as libelous:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

he abandoned that particular instance of outright lying and began his disinformation pitch a little differently, without ever acknowledging that he previously knowingly lied about Dennis:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...s_Lee#Skeptics

and all the things that he says that Dennis never discloses, in that post at the link above, are among Mr. Skeptic’s new lies. Mr. Skeptic can be counted on to spin it as darkly as he can, and although he begins his post by saying that he has read Dennis’s books, he turns around and lies outright when he says that Dennis does not mention Bo Gritz, the bounced checks, the failed card business that reincarnated as the Discover Card, and so on. Dennis discloses all of those events in his books, in pretty good detail. Mr. Skeptic’s approach relies on people being lazy, stupid, and gullible, and it is amazing to watch people fall under his spell, people who should know better.

Mr. Skeptic has stalked me on the Internet since 1998, spewing his disinformation wherever I went. He sometimes showed up the same day that I appeared. Because Internet forums come and go without a trace, few of his attacks are viewable today (he mounted a particularly disgusting attack at Guerilla News Network around 2002), but one of his more polite versions has survived:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/200...8.shtml#251272

I was at ATS for several months, and Mr. Skeptic never joined the party, but appeared at that New Agey forum right after I joined it during that same time period. Either he knew that the ATS trolls would do his work for him, or he actually worked with them. It is hard to say which one was the case, but I suspect the latter. That persistent ATS troll seemed like a professional, and more than one person may have been doing it; his first posts were rather infantile, but they became more sophisticated later.

So, after I was banned at ATS, I decided that open Internet forums could not successfully host conversations led by people like me, and I decided that when I got the energy essay completed, I would have to mount my own invitation-only forum. So, it was a very pleasant surprise that Bill came to the same conclusion that I did about all-comers forums and began this forum. My participation in other forums could be considered practice for this one.

Hi Robert:

I have already mentioned that I keep turning down opportunities to be on TV. I have also turned down opportunities to do cartoons and other media. While I like cartoons (and I have enjoyed a few RSAnimate presentations before), what I am trying to do on the FE front is aiming way higher than cartoons, slogans, T-shirts and the like. Dennis did stuff like that at times, and that shoots pretty low, IMO. I am trying to aim high. It is like I said before; the mass media creates an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep.

While I appreciate you thinking about RSAnimate to get out the FE idea, I am trying to use Avalon and the Internet in ways that there does not need to be money changing hands. When money gets involved, the peril leaps up an order of magnitude or two, and this cloistered environment at Avalon can give people a false sense of security. Godzilla is watching, and many people, both on Godzilla’s payroll and free-lancing, would love to wreck what I am doing, and one of the easiest ways to take me out is to have money-raising somehow connected with what I am doing. I have never solicited money for my efforts, and don’t plan to. Raising money to do cartoons is not what I am about, that is for sure. For trying to play the mass media game with FE, we’ll see how Thrive does.

Best,

Wade

Thank you Wade for taking the time out of your busy schedule to answer my question so promptly. I really appreciate it. I have just started reading some of your posts and they are amazing! I am learning so much. Thanks again!
Best regards to you and for your work

[shamanseeker]

Hello Ulli! Thank you for answering my question. Really appreciate it

[shamanseeker]

im completely done with the hour long conversations about career, relationships, gossip, tv etc that most people i encounter go on with so ive decided im taking control of the conversation at least until i have mentioned FE and living in abundance........sure why not? ive had some success too but i must say that alot of people are put off by the sheer volume of info contained in Wades site and just dont have the time to read it all......thats why something like this 'thrive' documentary will be nice to pass on to them....its a different angle and may serve as an excellent complement to Wades' material......

Hello Tyler! I'n an English teacher in Italy and so have the possibility of speaking a lot to people about my 'awakening' and I was amazed at how many people were interested and would even ask me questions to get me talking about these things some more during lessons. I wonder sometimes if the people who are sent or come to me for lessons are being sent by the universe or whatever you want to call it because most of them are really interested Any way, in answer to what you say about the fact that some people are put off by the sheer volume of Wade's material, I remember seeing his interview on Project Camelot some time ago and going into his site and not reading anything for the same reason. Well, I realize now that I just wasn't ready then. I am now and am reading it avidly. The same could be the case with the people you talk to. Maybe, they aren't ready yet but it's possible that they'll go and read it later. I find the thing that really intrigues people and makes them listen at first is when I tell them about the fact that all our royalty and leaders are related and that they are in those positions because of their "birthright". That really makes then sit up and listen :-)
Enjoyed reading your note!
Thanks!

[transiten]

Posted by ulli (here)
Hi Wade. Mr. Skeptic's name was Eric Krieg? I followed a link you gave and saw his post.
There was a discussion here about names being connected with one's profession, or being.
"Krieg" is the German word for war...as in Blitzkrieg, etc.
Anyway, when a person has that kind of a name, watch out. I would have avoided him, too.
Maybe I might have countered the accusation of avoidance with:
"Change your name to Fried, (peace) and I might be willing to dialogue."
There are no coincidences, especially when it comes to names.

Hi ulli, did you notice my question below your post (it was adressed to Robert)