What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

[Wade Frazier]

In Walsch’s Conversations with God, “God” said that in societies of highly evolved beings (HEBs), there is that “chipping in” to help out, but it is voluntary. There are no taxes. Taxes are compulsory, contributions are not. I keenly understand that in a world of scarcity, those ideas are seemingly unworkable, but that is in a world of scarcity. In a world of abundance, the idea works, but even then, it kind of does not. In that world that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

there were no accountants or treasurers or money. Again, in our world today, that can be hard to even imagine. That is the point of this thread, to make it imaginable.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

The idea of money itself is mired in the scarcity-based paradigm.

Money does not measures value. Is one baseball player worth 100 medical researchers?
No!
Money measures status and nothing else.

Money is leverage, a way to control the lives of others.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)
Taxes are stealing..

Not necessarily. They can sometimes be viewed as a nation doing what a smaller group would call setting up a kitty for some common purpose, possibly with each chipping in according to his means. I expect that something similar will continue for non-monetary contributions even in a FE society.
Having said that, it is true that the position of treasurer is often a much coveted one for the less than honest.

That would be IF the taxes were used to run the nation, which is not the case.

[araucaria]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
The idea of money itself is mired in the scarcity-based paradigm.

Money does not measures value. Is one baseball player worth 100 medical researchers?
No!
Money measures status and nothing else.

Money is leverage, a way to control the lives of others.

Money is a negative form of free energy just as creativity is the positive form. Money is the parasitical imitation of creativity. A baseball player focuses the energy of thousands of spectators, and emptying their wallets is just a 3D caricature of that effect.

[Ilie Pandia]

Please, lets not debate money and taxes unless you link them to energy scarcity or abundance

Let's stay

[araucaria]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Please, lets not debate money and taxes unless you link them to energy scarcity or abundance

Let's stay

I'm very sorry, Ilie, I don't understand your problem (but I have nothing further to add).

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)
Taxes are stealing..

Not necessarily. They can sometimes be viewed as a nation doing what a smaller group would call setting up a kitty for some common purpose, possibly with each chipping in according to his means. I expect that something similar will continue for non-monetary contributions even in a FE society.
Having said that, it is true that the position of treasurer is often a much coveted one for the less than honest.

In a world in which the governments of the world safeguarded the rights and well-being of the people, there might be some truth to what you say. As it stands, governments defend the interests of the corporatocracy.

In a world better than ours, such taxation may be about 'each according to his means' contributing to common purposes. I interpret from what you say something like the Women's Institute. All members join voluntarily and contribute towards the institute. The difference with states though is completely different. States impose, they do not ask; I've never once heard a Prime Minister relying upon the milk of human kindness. Taxes are obligatory and membership of these 'clubs' is not voluntary. When it comes to citizenship, we are citizens because we were born on a parcel of land. We are an involuntary partner in a contract of citizenship. So 'who is taxed' is an involuntary association between people and state, and taxes are an obligatory payment decided upon that association.

If I selected people against their will and then required from them an obligatory payment, I would be called a thief. The difference between 'tax collector' and 'mugger' is nothing more than a difference in modus operandi.

And that is why I say that in a society based on abundance, not scarcity, taxes wouldn't exist. Contributions may exist, but not taxes. Taxes say "I want what you have and you have to give it to me" That is anathema to an abundance-based society.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Please, lets not debate money and taxes unless you link them to energy scarcity or abundance

Let's stay

I'm very sorry, Ilie, I don't understand your problem (but I have nothing further to add).

He is just saying that I dragged the thread off topic and please get back on topic.
Unless we can link taxes and energy.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Please, lets not debate money and taxes unless you link them to energy scarcity or abundance

Let's stay

I'm very sorry, Ilie, I don't understand your problem (but I have nothing further to add).

He is just saying that I dragged the thread off topic and please get back on topic.
Unless we can link taxes and energy.

'Twas I who brought up taxes after seeing them in a list of Ilie's. He seemed certain that taxes were a scarcity-based issue but couldn't see why. I was hoping to connect the dots for the benefit of the thread and its readers. The culpa is truly mea ;-)

[Ilie Pandia]

No no no... I posted the focus post because I thought that this will get into a "money is evil" debate that will never end! And I wanted to prevent that

Apparently... "one meets ones destiny on the path one takes to avoid it"!

Oliver has a point. This is the link between taxes and scarcity:

And that is why I say that in a society based on abundance, not scarcity, taxes wouldn't exist. Contributions may exist, but not taxes. Taxes say "I want what you have and you have to give it to me" That is anathema to an abundance-based society.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Just briefly, and it will relate to my upcoming essay, money and taxes are inventions of civilization. So are harems, armies, slavery and other social institutions. When anthropologists have translated the earliest forms of writing in the first literate civilizations, they found that the first writing was accounting, usually to count up the king’s tribute (taxes).

Those are all scarcity-related phenomenon, but all of them have been argued as aspects of human nature, when they were really artifacts of the primitive economy. When economic standards rose due to increasing energy consumption, many of those “human nature” institutions eventually disappeared. Under a FE-based economy, others will disappear, and armies, money and taxes will likely go. Probably not immediately, but soon. It should become obvious quite quickly that those relics have outlived their “usefulness.”

Best,

Wade

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hi

Just wanted to add that idea of taxes is really based on extorion by single "alfa" male/female. The latin word "fiscus" which is often associated with taxation is a word used by Romans to describe cezars private assets. His income.

In a free energy world if I can grow my own food grow my home myself and clothes if I could do whatever activity comes to mind without asking anybody for help and everybody else could live the same abundand life what would be use of money? And government would also be unncessary if everybody could effortlesly and abundantly support for themselves. We can synchronize our actions without government. Look at this forum. We are already synchronizing. I hope such kind of coordination will be "norm" in free energy society. In free software movements almost all projects are distributed not centeralized. Source code is also distribiuted not centralized. Everybody can join or leave such project. It is a model for free energy society. The only resources needed in free software project are time and ideas. You will never run out of time or ideas. It is like a smile. You can smile to anybody as many times as you like. Smile is abundant. Add to this energy that never runs out and the only you have to do to built millenium falcon is to setup some workspace for project and wait for volunteers

[Wade Frazier]

Robert, smile is not abundant! Only eight times per post!

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

These are smileys I know 9 smileyes is not abundance but if you combine all the posts with smileys they are quite abundant together

They are like energy. They come in quants of 9 smileys ( 1 extra smiley in post topic ) per post. But you will never run out of posts

[Ernie Nemeth]

Wade, how dare you say such a thing! lol

That's a great idea Robert. Energy will be as abundant as smiles. :-)

Is there really a limit on smiles per post. Tell me it isn't so!

[Wade Frazier]

Ernie, try a post with nine smileys (the icon type, like this ), and see what happens. Mr. Smiley, Robert, discovered that one day, and I think I did too, early in my Avalon tenure. But that is a humorous side-light. Yes, smiley limits will end in a world of abundance! . Again, manifesting abundance in our lives, when we live in a world of artificially-enforced scarcity, it quite a trick. Only Level 19s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

can really manifest true-blue abundance on the planet right now. Manifesting true abundance for the rest of us can only be a gang tackle. That is appropriate, I think.

Best,

Wade

[araucaria]

I don't understand - I have sent armies of smileys in PMs, but yes, for some reason the maximum here is 7

[Ernie Nemeth]

Darn, I wanted to one up Wade for a change, hehehe, you beat me to it!

[Ernie Nemeth]

one year later:

We always knew they were here.

Ever since we began developing our internal senses, a group of us began rooting them out. They did not like being exposed and when enough of us realized their mostly nefarious intent they left enmass. But we knew they were watching from afar. Some claimed good intentions but since our "senses" were still developing we were not yet able to directly and confidently sort the "good from the bad". So we insisted that all beings not directly "of the earth" must leave. Some did not go willingly...

I receive an urgent "call" telepathically from my small group of spirit workers. I quickly don a jumpsuit and will myself up and out of my domocile. I locate the direction of the call and fly towards it, rapidly accelerating as I go. Others in the city send messages of unity and blessings. These I gather into my auric field, quickly amassing a great deal of energy as I zip overhead. Soon I am out of sight of our crystal city and travelling over the pristine landscape.

Although I am focussing on my mission, I still remember to appreciate the beauty of the natural world. I marvel at the great feats my brothers and sisters have already managed to accomplish in such a short space of time. It is still hard to believe that only 15 years ago most of this land had been a cesspool of desecration, ravaged by a society bent on destruction. But the grasslands below now team with wildlife of all descriptions. Since most of humanity now lives in the sky or even further afield, nature has reasserted itself with a vengance. The verdant flora has spread into the spaces cleared by the bio-engineers and deconstruction/reclaimation teams. All manner of fauna have increased their numbers back to population sizes not seen in thousands of years!

I spot an old shack mostly hidden in an arroyo of an old, dried out riverbed. Most of my team has already arrived and as I approach the final member sends us his ETA of a few minutes. I slow down and descend into the gully where my team is assembling. I land nearby and walk over raising my hand in greeting. My team hails me and we gather together, sharing our auric fields. The last member arrives and I take a moment to tease her about her tardiness. We share a smile among us then get down to business. She is our pointman and our leader. Her amazing abilities are already the source of legends.

Without further comment or instruction she leads us forward.

Soon we round a bend and the ramshackle "soddy" from a bygone era comes into view. I see the oldtimer sitting on an upturned canoe, whittling away with a large "Bowie" knife. As we near he looks up. His withered and creased features display no alarm. After inspecting us for a moment he bows his head back to his work. We approach the geezer and encircle him. Not a word is spoken. He knows why we are here.

Areil, our leader, walks up to him and stands a scant meter away. I gather my energies, as do my companions, ready to support her. Then I focus my awareness and tune into the vibration of the being behind the facade of this old timer. It is an ethereal being from another universe unlike any I have encountered before and I sense its tremendous power. My first instinct is to turn away in horror but Ariel centers us with a gentle reminder. "Fear is the mind killer", I chant my mantra while building my energies to their max and beyond. I mix my field with the others in the circle and soon a vortex of power swirls around us.

The being removes its tentacle from its victim and the old man slumps to the ground. He is no longer. Ariel sends out a call for a soul guide to come and aid the spirit of this man. I know they will facilitate his journey hence. But I cannot waver now, nor loose my focus. The task is at hand, the contest of wills about to begin. A few local animal spirits gather to lend aid if necessary and we thank them as one.

The being slowly approaches Ariel and unable to do otherwise, reaches a tentacle towards her. To my amazement, Ariel allows contact. She steadies us, calms us, reassures us, all in a blink of an eye. The being, already starving for energy, wraps an appendage around Ariels torso. Then another and another. Once well rooted, the being hauls its bulk off the ground and onto Ariel's back. Issueing contented slurping noises it begins to feed. In horror I watch as Ariel drops to one knee. Another moment slips by and her aura begins to fade while the being grows in size and strength. She drops to her other knee and her aura vanishes.

Now! She sends us the signal. We all pour our energies forward and into her. She accepts it and her aura returns in full measure. Now we in the circle drop to our knees as our energies near depletion. The being is enormous now as it consumes our combined fields. It roars a defiant bellow of victory, of superiority, sensing our weakness. Manfred, our "lightening rod", the one able to summon energies directly from the universal field in copious amounts without being consumed, calls for more power from the Source. The animal spirits respond and come to our aid, lending us their strength as well.

And we pray. We pray for this being. We pray for our fellow lifeform and its well-being. We call on the citizens of our crystal city to join in our prayer and all the denizens of our world. Soon a chorus of prayer reverberates around us. And then Ariel calls on the Earth Mother Herself to come to our aid. And the Father Sun. I pray with all my might until I see stars and my vision blurs. Swaying on my knees I cannot take much more.

But it is enough, it always is.

Meanwhile, had I the ability to turn my attention to our surroundings, the vortex of energy has reached a crescendo. Like a tornado of power it swirls around us, tossing our hair, deafening our ears and blinding our eyes. But our sight is inward, we have no time for, no awareness of such things. There is only us and this being and the job to be done.

Ariel is engulfed and dwarfed by the being as it continues to grow and grow and grow.

She slowly moves one foot under her. Then the other. Ariel stands, lifting the monster with her. And now, for the first time she breaks the silence to utter, shouting above the din:
"I bless you, child of The Most High God!" The being recoils in horror. It tries to disentangle its appendages from this tiny human entity beneath it. But Ariel grasps one of its tentacles and will not let it go. She pours the remainder of the vortex into the being until the tornado of power is no more.

Silence surrounds us now. And the dust drops out of the sky. In this utterly surreal moment, I glimpse the obsurdity of my situation, kneeling in the dirt, praying, while my companions in the circle do the same - and Ariel, tiny, sweet Ariel, holding this monster by a tentacle.

"I release you now. Go back to whence you came!" she orders. And with that command a brilliant flash of light and a tremendous clap of thunder heralds the opening of a portal. Into this opening she tosses the being as if it were a tiny puff of smoke. With one last roar the being disappears into the opening back to its own world and time. And then Ariel collapses, and we follow suit, spent.

It is over.

Moments later, a troop of healers arrive and transport us back to the crystal city and the mending begins. Soon, scant hours later, I'm feeling right as rain again.

Reflecting back on my experience I am elated to have been a part of such a miraculous event.

[Wade Frazier]

Jesus, Ernie, got any more like that?