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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Quote Posted by Carmen (here)
    May you and yours be safe randles. Much love to you.

    My daughter pointed out something quite odd regarding these earthquakes in the Canares. Many of them are square or in line! Never seen that before. Looks quite unnatural! Go to Quakewatch and see for yourself.
    Very interesting indeed and very intriguing... give a high five to your daughter!

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    These quakes do seem to follow a grid pattern... unless it's a glitch in their positionning/location program which would only get the nearest longitude/latitude coordinates?

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Bumping this at top of page...

    Strongest EQ for the day (3.5):


    For the day:

    Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

    Polly shed her scales and got a new one (check the left side... they had to dramatically change the scale, now it's going asymptotic!)

    How it's looking like now:
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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    I am not sure what's happening but these seismograms have been frozen for over two hours... even on their original site.


    Edit:
    ... 3hours now and still no updates anywhere...

    The stations at La Gomera and La palma haven't been updated since 1 am GMT either.

    Since the last update on El Hierro site (00:48 am):

    ----#---------Date-------Time-----Lat.------Long.----Mag.-------Location----Info
    1099846 ~28/09/2011~ 05:00:59 27.6775 -18.060815~ 3.3 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]
    1099841 ~28/09/2011~ 03:05:31 27.6595 -18.042516~ 1.8 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]
    1099839 ~28/09/2011~ 02:53:37 27.6828 -18.062316~ 2.4 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]
    1099833 ~28/09/2011~ 02:01:18 27.6696 -18.04318~~ 2.7 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]
    1099827 ~28/09/2011~ 01:34:33 27.7381 -18.042611~ 2.0 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]
    1099820 ~28/09/2011~ 00:58:27 27.6988 -18.041312~ 2.4 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]
    1099821 ~28/09/2011~ 00:51:15 27.6735 -18.061914~ 2.1 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]
    1099819 ~28/09/2011~ 00:48:16 27.6648 -18.052111~ 2.4 ~4 SW FRONTERA.IHI[+]

    All seismograms are off line now... ??? Back online 7 am!

    Recent updates:

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by Carmen (here)
    May you and yours be safe randles. Much love to you.

    My daughter pointed out something quite odd regarding these earthquakes in the Canares. Many of them are square or in line! Never seen that before. Looks quite unnatural! Go to Quakewatch and see for yourself.
    Very interesting indeed and very intriguing... give a high five to your daughter!
    [...]


    These quakes do seem to follow a grid pattern... unless it's a glitch in their positionning/location program which would only get the nearest longitude/latitude coordinates?
    The clustering of tremors in a very small area is most probably the cause for the grid pattern due to rounding up to nearest coordinates.

    Check this for comparison at the same scale:

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    More precise, local coordinates can be found here: http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/v...ia/HIERRO.html
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    Love and peace as they rest.
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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Am I hallucinating or did they set up a better camera for their weather webcam at Las Puntas?

    Nop! Back to same crappy low resolution one... they should use Iceland's Mila's example to promote their island...
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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    3) My attention always goes to where it’s needed. I ask myself questions, and then the answers usually come a few days later. That happened a few days ago regarding the financial meltdown to come next year (I have data which I'll post in a separate thread later). And similarly for the solar problems in 2013 which may effect the power grid and all long-distance communications.
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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Hi there! Good morning randles!

    Hope the 3(point something)s didn't reach beyond El Herrio?

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Hi Randles,

    I know the Canary Islands attracts a lot of Brits, so a very large number of my fellow countrymen will be aware of the dangers. I found this website after doing a google search for the Volcano... the second video gives a clear indication that this eruption is expected and that the resulting tsunami will have a major impact on the eastern coast of North America, wiping NY out completely. It will also impact on parts of the north African coast as well as the Caribbean and the southern coastline of England.

    http://bit.ly/nRcjlE (hope the link works!!)

    Thinking of you and praying for your safety.

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Good Morning Avalon,

    It was a quiet night here. At work on the coast at the moment. I started to park my car OUTSIDE of the underground carpark a couple of weeks ago at home. This morning it would appear that the carpark under my apartment building is now on the street, and the queue for gasoline was quite a wait.

    Here is an update from the press this morning..

    Translation..http://www.abc.es/agencias/noticia.asp?noticia=940495


    "Madrid, 28 sep (EFE) .- Effects of the two emergency response units available to the Emergency Military Unit in the Canary Islands this afternoon will depart from the port of Santa Cruz de Tenerife to El Hierro, to collaborate on tasks evacuation of this island to the seismic hazard that exists.

    As reported by the Ministry of Defence, the application of this support has been made by the Government of the Canary Islands in order to help their means of emergency evacuation of citizens, given the risk that the population is undergoing seismic movements taking place in the area.

    EMU moves to 31 soldiers, four buses and six trucks to a first evacuation of residents to the barracks "Anatolian Source" located in La Caleta.

    At the same time, the EMU team that travels to the island provides an officer with the mission to conduct a study for the installation of a camp for 2,000 homeless people. EFE"

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    And this is fresh off the press from elpais.

    http://www.elpais.com/articulo/socie...pepusoc_11/Tes

    "The seismic crisis of El Hierro has gone up a notch tonight. The authorities have evacuated some 53 people (the council originally planned 300) and closed the main tunnel of the island, linking the two largest cities. They have done so because the earthquake, more than 8,000 since July 19 over 100 on Tuesday, are only becoming more intense and causes scientists to see more and more likely to be a volcanic eruption.

    El Hierro, on alert for a possible volcanic eruption

    El Hierro
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    Coast of the island of El Hierro .- JOSEPH B. RUIZ (CORDON PRESS)
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    At six o'clock, the Canary Islands government has sent a fax asking the Ministry of Defense support of EMU (Emergency Military Unit) for evacuation. At midday, is expected to leave the port of Tenerife a boat with 31 soldiers and 12 vehicles, six trucks, four buses and two off-road. There are also field shelter for 2,000 people, which was another of the Canary Islands government requests. It is also planned that in the first phase of evacuation, the victims go to the headquarters of the Navy Anatolio Source.

    About ten o'clock at night, the Guardia Civil has begun to advise families of four cores of the municipality of Frontera (north of the island) that they should leave their homes for fear of landslides. The hit came with resignation to the square of the neighborhood. "We caught it right and go to my brother," said Mari Paz resigned.

    The evicted residents come from the neighborhoods of Las Puntas, El Lunchón, corks, Foot Risco, Guinea and has not been necessary to evict any resident of Sabinosa and the Well of Health. 38 have opted to go home to family and friends and 15 to the dorm Valverde.

    Curious, nervous residents and tourists have been mixed on the night of El Hierro to hear the news. If at first the neighbors were very little concerned about the succession of earthquakes, this evening many neighbors have anguish in the face. The main artery of the island has been cut. Travel between the two main towns, Valverde to Frontera, will last for 15 minutes at 40 by a mountain road. In addition, 500 students (a third of the island) will not have class on Wednesday.

    Yet there are those who believe that everything is an exaggeration. "What is this? If iron sinks because we all sink with it. I've been with goats in these cliffs and I know that does not fall all at once," says Julio Brito Padrón, a man of 83 years, walking shirtless in the warm night, and relying on a cane. His wife, Victoria Quintero, nods when he realized that only left El Hierro to go to the barracks.

    The island supports a unique experiment in Spain: the preparation for an eventual volcanic eruption. Scientists at the National Geographic Institute (IGN) tour of the island people to explain what might happen, to calm the people and answer their questions. In addition, Civil Protection of the Canary Islands has developed a device to, at worst, the evacuation of 4,000 people in four hours. He has already contacted shipping companies and airlines that operate in the Canary Islands to use their ships in case of eruption.

    The residents of the island are prepared

    Most earthquakes have been imperceptible to the 10,000 inhabitants of El Hierro. Of the more than 8,000, only 15 have been felt, but the increasing intensity has raised the alarm. "We can not fight with nature," sums Casańez Arminda Perez, a woman returned to the emigration of Venezuela 40 years ago. Is at the door of his house in the village of Sabina, one of the most affected. Arminda, who wears a medal of Our Lady of Coromoto has hardly noticed the earthquake, but it is informed. He has gone to the talks by scientists from IGN and knows that in case of eruption, go to the town square and should have prepared a bag with essentials. It has not, as most of the respondents, it does not seem to fear that the earth to open beneath his feet. Maite Padrón, director of the Hotel Balneario Pozo de la Salud, has felt the cancellation of visits more than earthquakes.

    Evacuations are taking place one step at a rally that began Friday, when the Canaries rose for the first time volcano warning light and put it in amber: pre-emergence. On Tuesday there has been almost a hundred and reaching a magnitude of 3.8. At least on paper everything is ready. "Do not look at all leave the island, but handle different assumptions," says Juan Manuel Santana, Director General of Security and Emergency Canary Islands Government.

    IGN has developed several hypotheses about how an eruption can occur and the paths they could follow the lava and ash. "What else is planned is in the Gulf area, which could affect 4,000 people," that "would be evacuated within four hours," said Santana. To do this, be mobilized ships and planes from nearby islands. In addition, staff of 112 in El Hierro has been reinforced and receive materials. If, as happens now, moves to the south "there just is no population" and reduce the number of people affected.

    The talks are the villages and busy teaching. On a display, which account for IGN, the Institute of Volcanology of the Canary Islands (non-tip) and Civil Protection of the island explained, even in remote village, to prepare a backpack with water, mobile battery, can opener, a whistle, a handkerchief ... "The mortgage will leave it to burn, 'says the responsibility to remove tension. One hundred residents of San Andrés listen carefully to the instructions. Teachers lead children to the meeting point and the rest should proceed in a number of things. First, it should not be first in line if there comes a tsunami, but also "to be protected from the ashes mouth with a tissue dampened" and avoid "the canyons because they accumulate gases. Before leaving the house, advise, have to cut the gas. As explained, the crisis "has taken a run" although it is unclear how it will end. It's nice to see scientists in a village level by an educational effort.

    "Anything can happen"

    On the slope of the Gulf, Abella and Itahiza Rafael Dominguez, IGN researchers, control the situation through sensors across the island to notice the movements that are mild and pass on the fly to Madrid. They came here just to note, in mid-July, an unusual move to deploy land mobile network. "Anything can happen," he admits. Everything is calm or the emergence of a rash on the sea and no one will know until the lava affecting the west of the island. But it can also nothing happens in weeks or years. Nobody knows what happens to the magma, located between 12 and 15 kilometers deep. What is not in doubt, say the GPS is that the island "has swelled about four centimeters," according Itahiza. With the rise of magma, the field expands.

    Elsewhere on the island, Dácil Nolasco, a researcher at the Institute of Volcanology of the Canary Islands, click on the ground every 500 meters to measure the diffuse flux of CO2, which serves as an indicator of the magmatic activity in the subsoil. Nemesio Perez, non-tip, confirms that the flow of CO2 has risen almost continuously over the last month.

    Although from the Volcano Teneguía in 1971, there has been no eruption in the Canary Islands, the population is relatively normal phenomenon. The leaflet handed out to calm the population noted that the archipelago has "similar to Hawaiian volcanism, where people live daily with its active volcanoes" and asks people to "pay no attention to rumors spread alarmist nor" . But the councils have no depth at all. On Tuesday, the earth trembled as the young Border institute received a lecture on how to stay calm in case of earthquakes. The response was not very quiet, as Ruyman Quintero, 16 third-year student and ESO.

    People do not have much experience, because since 1793 there is a similar crisis. Then record the tremors stopped the letters which the Mayor of El Hierro sent to the royal Audiencia de Canarias in the ships calling to evacuate the population for the continuous tremors, as documented by the teacher at the University of La Laguna Carmen Romero . It is believed that then, he says, erupting not over, at least there are no historical records, or if there was not very great. Then came to nothing. This time, we'll see."


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    PLEASE be aware that THIS PRESS release, contains alot of what was said last night..

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    Hi Randles,

    I know the Canary Islands attracts a lot of Brits, so a very large number of my fellow countrymen will be aware of the dangers. I found this website after doing a google search for the Volcano... the second video gives a clear indication that this eruption is expected and that the resulting tsunami will have a major impact on the eastern coast of North America, wiping NY out completely. It will also impact on parts of the north African coast as well as the Caribbean and the southern coastline of England.

    http://bit.ly/nRcjlE (hope the link works!!)

    Thinking of you and praying for your safety.

    - Clare x
    Hi Phoenix10, I think you are confusing El Hierro island with La Palma and its Cumbre Viejo volcano. It's the latter which threatens to drop down in the ocean.

    El Hierro, if collapsing at all, will send its wave in the direction of the South Atlantic.

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    The total running count is EIGHT THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY...And so... with a total of 268 earthquakes yesterday and 66 so far this morning..



    Polly now looks like this....


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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Quote Posted by Phoenix10 (here)
    I know the Canary Islands attracts a lot of Brits, so a very large number of my fellow countrymen will be aware of the dangers. I found this website after doing a google search for the Volcano... the second video gives a clear indication that this eruption is expected and that the resulting tsunami will have a major impact on the eastern coast of North America, wiping NY out completely. It will also impact on parts of the north African coast as well as the Caribbean and the southern coastline of England.
    I'd be reluctant to say "will have a major impact" and "wiping out NY completely".

    That site that your link goes to, The Truth Behind The Scenes, looks to me to be a "good site" for "doomer porn", not always distinguishing carefully between what might happen, some day, and what we're pretty sure will happen, soon.

    There appears to be a wide range of possible outcomes for the earth changes in the Canary Islands right now, from a "minor burp" to a "major belch", or less, or more.

    Randles and the other posters on this thread have been doing a wonderful job of relating what is actually happening in the present.

    Keep up the good work, and best to all.
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    Above hopefully is a pic of the evac from midnight last night this can be found at...
    with the following script translated..http://www.diarioelhierro.es/

    "COMPANY - 28/09/2011 (06:34 pm)
    DO NOT EXPECT AN ERUPTION IMMINENT

    Fear takes root in El Hierro
    Night moved without problems on the island after an intense Tuesday with 150 earthquakes recorded, of which at least 9 were felt by the population.
    The Canary Islands government wants to send a message of peace and remind people that we are in yellow light, as was established on 23 September, and are not expected an imminent eruption.
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    SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (09.28.2011. 6:34 pm)

    El Hierro stretches after spending one of the worst nights since last July 19, the day the island seismometers to record earthquakes begin steadily.

    From 00:02 hours until 05:00 hours on Wednesday, September 28, seismic activity on the island of El Hierro continues its constant motion.

    According to data from the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, the island of El Hierro and keep records in just three hours, 14 earthquakes of between 1.8 and 3.3 magnitude on the Richter scale, and although IGN's web does not specify that it was felt the greatest of these (3.3), the drafting of this newspaper we receive messages from our readers that, indeed, it has been perceived by the population. That is, from 00:02 hours on Wednesday, 28, and are accounted for at least two earthquakes above magnitude 3 and one of 3.0.

    After an intense night, and where eventually only 53 people have been evacuated Border (out of 200 that provided for the Canary Islands Government), El Hierro has no regrets damage people or property. A night full of fear and concern, and where if you had to be vacated for years now rain has to do for fear of landslides due to the intense seismic activity.

    Just this Tuesday, 27, the island of El Hierro recorded 150 earthquakes of which at least 9 were felt by the population. By a simple calculation shows that the island accounted for only on Tuesday over 6 earthquakes every hour, giving us some idea of ​​increased activity.

    According to data published by the ING on its website, the islanders expect movidito Wednesday, as happened on Tuesday.

    In turn, this Wednesday, September 28th, there will be no school activity and Border tunnels closed Roquille from 23:00 hours on Tuesday, 27.hasta further notice.

    The Canary Islands government wants to send a message of peace and remind people that we are in yellow light, as was established on 23 September, and are not expected an imminent eruption.

    Self-protection measures in case of earthquake

    If you are inside a building is important

    • Do not leave the building until the end of the movement.

    • Seek shelter under strong structures.

    • Stay away from windows, windows, cabinets, walls and objects that can fall and get hit.

    • Do not be in the kitchen.

    • Do not use the elevator.

    • If the movement is strong, once completed, turn off electricity, water and gas.

    In a public building (supermarket, cinema, library, etc):

    • Do not run terrified towards the exit.

    • Stay away from windows or glass doors.

    • Take cover under heavy structures.

    • In spaces with shelves (libraries, archives, supermarkets, etc..) Out of the halls where the shelves and bend his knees, with the sides of the shelves.

    • At school, have children and students kneel beneath her desk, getting a book on the head.

    If the shock is surprised abroad is appropriate:

    • Remain calm and make the others observe. Try to control any panic.

    • Go to an open area, once away from damaged buildings.

    • If there are damaged buildings, not between them.

    • If car is traveling slowly stop the vehicle, do not block the road. Turn on the radio for the state authorities and recommendations for any particular roadblocks.

    • The authorities shall indicate the protective measures to be taken through the Media and Information Centers Centers Affiliation and Registration.

    Try to answer calls for help and collaborate with the intervening, but not go to the affected areas without request to the authorities. Is important to avoid snooping by the disaster areas, that is also dangerous and difficult work of rehabilitation."


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    Wouldn't know Amzer Zo, slept as if in a coma...I am completely exhausted.. I feel like the walking dead this morning...
    Hey Ho !! Another Joy Joy Sunshiney day
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    Hi there! Good morning randles!

    Hope the 3(point something)s didn't reach beyond El Herrio?

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    Any one any good at snake charming?

    Here is a look at a before and ... now:


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    Can't remember where I saw it, but this hypothesis that the 'mega tsunami' will hit the USA coast has since been strongly disputed and that given enough distance, the wave hits a maximum height and speed, then reduces. Apologies for no source, I'm at work but will try and find it later today.

    <Thinks> When I throw a big stone in the lake for Mad Max (family dog-person), the ripples eventually run out of steam, they don't keep building into a local armageddon... <end thinks>

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    GOOD MORNING ...BUT PLEASE...NO ...ZERO....NADA...DOOM & GLOOM

    Alot of sites simply THRIVE on Doom and Gloom, and some nations around the world like a cup of it over breakfast each and every morning.

    This thread is simply to UPDATE FACTS as and when they happen, with the pulling power of Avalon at its Best...I PERSONALLLY will not subscribe to Tsunamis....I believe in fulfilled dreams and "becareful what you wish for, it might just come true"
    Trying to keep my head up in an impossible situation, along with the support of this Forum,
    Have a beautiful day
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    Hi Randles,

    I know the Canary Islands attracts a lot of Brits, so a very large number of my fellow countrymen will be aware of the dangers. I found this website after doing a google search for the Volcano... the second video gives a clear indication that this eruption is expected and that the resulting tsunami will have a major impact on the eastern coast of North America, wiping NY out completely. It will also impact on parts of the north African coast as well as the Caribbean and the southern coastline of England.

    http://bit.ly/nRcjlE (hope the link works!!)

    Thinking of you and praying for your safety.

    - Clare x

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    Must admit,,,. this made me smile

    "• Do not run terrified towards the exit."

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    Quote Posted by pickle (here)
    Can't remember where I saw it, but this hypothesis that the 'mega tsunami' will hit the USA coast has since been strongly disputed and that given enough distance, the wave hits a maximum height and speed, then reduces. Apologies for no source, I'm at work but will try and find it later today.

    <Thinks> When I throw a big stone in the lake for Mad Max (family dog-person), the ripples eventually run out of steam, they don't keep building into a local armageddon... <end thinks>

    Peace,

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    All modeling aside ... rewind to the Japan tsunami.

    We know what happened there yet by the time it reached Hawaii it was little more than a big wave causing very minor damage.

    Yes. Let's focus our attention on the islands themselves.

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