Tunnels to at least 13 undergound bases being sealed off?

[WyoSeeker]

Posted by math330 (here)
My inner skeptic is asking if there's a 'real' news link to any of this?

Is Presscore.ca a reliable news source or is this a constructed story?

There is an "About" page for them that is pretty informative:
http://presscore.ca/2011/?page_id=2

The new site looks legit. The author of the story is "PC" which is described this way:
"All reports and stories authored as PC annotates PRESS Core submissions from either registered users or through email. Out of fear of reprisal the author(s) has asked to remain anonymous."

No further sources cited in the story to investigate.

[math330]

thanks Wyo

I couldn't find much else about them, just a quote from another site saying they're 'non-profit'... which can only be a good thing I guess
http://www.andrewleunginternationalc...-in-japan.html

I'm thinking the PC byline is 'Presscore'?

[Billy]

If they need any help digging them out, give me a call

[stegosaur]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
There is somewhat compelling data to suggest the original Virginia and Colorado earthquakes were actually not quakes.

The graghs showing no buildup, the areas not having faultlines and the distance at which some people felt them.

That is not "proof" ... but certainly merits more investigation.

IMHO

A couple of things and please don't take this personally because it's not. But as a geologist there are some blatantly false statements here that must be corrected.

1) Virginia and Colorado are chock full of fault lines. I think people commonly confuse a lack of activity for a complete lack of faults - just because they ain't movin on human time scales doesn't mean they ain't there. Think about it: The rocky mountains formed by literally being thrust up from the ground. Anywhere in the world there are mountains, there are faults, it's as simple as that. Likewise for Virginia and the east coast, again, there you have remnants of the Appalachian and Blue Ridge mountains. Active displacement on faults (i.e. EQs) on the east coast is much less common because it's not currently in an active state of compression like a convergent coastline is such as Chile, Himalayas, Japan etc. Faulting on the east coast was likely the result of isostatic rebound (literally the entire area covered by miles thick ice from the last ice age is slowly rebounding, or moving upwards in response to the melting of the last ice sheet, it just happens on time scales most people never conceive or think on).

2) There is no such thing as a 'buildup' signature in a seismograph before an earthquake. Believe me if there was, it would have already been discovered - this is basically the holy grail of EQ seismology, i.e. being able to predict EQs before they happen. Microcracks are observed and recorded in small-scale lab experiments where cores of rocks are subjected to increasing stress until they fracture, but this process does not scale up to earth-sized (i.e. plate tectonic) spatial scales. I think this misconception occurs because people don't understand how waves travel through the earth. Any type of seismogenic event generates three types of waves: 1) P or Primary Waves, 2) S or Shear/Secondary waves and finally 3) Surface or body/ground roll waves. P waves and S waves move in fundamentally different ways and consequently travel through the earth at different speeds: for a P-wave, particle displacement occurs in the plane of motion while for an S-wave particle displacement occurs perpendicular to wave propagation (i.e. shearing motion). As a quick aside, liquids can't support a shear stress, so S-waves cannot travel through liquids - this is how we know the outer core is liquid. Now, P waves travel faster than S waves, hence the primary/secondary designation. The further away a seismograph is from an epicenter (or the EQ location) the further apart P and S waves will arrive on a Seismograph. What's actually really funny is the article that cites 'a lack of prebuildup' shows a seismograph from Washington and Lee university, which happens to be my alma mater. It's located in Lexington VA (A very beautiful part of the country I might add) but more to the point it's located very close to the epicenter of the DC EQ, so the P and S wave arrival times are smashed together and to the untrained eye, it's impossible to tell one arrival from the other. Now in an EQ, the actual shaking felt isn't from the P wave, the S wave but the body/ground roll wave - which literally propagates as a wave on the earths surface and travels the slowest. Again, because the cited seismograph was so close to the epicenter for the DC EQ again the arrival of three separate waves are all smashed together, giving the illusion of an underground explosion when in fact it's one of the worst examples of cherry picking a data point to support a crackpot theory. I will guarantee that the same seismograph, on the same day, was able to record the three separate wavefronts from the Denver EQ by virtue of being geographically far enough away from the epicenter. Think about it this way, line up a 300 lb man and usain bolt. 1 inch from the starting line, there won't be much separation between the two - but have them run 100 yards and then do you think it will possible to tell who gets there first? You bet. Same idea for P, S and ground waves.

Now, underground nuclear explosions can be differentiated from natural EQs, and this system is setup worldwide - it's complicated and requires the cooperation of seismographs and seismologists from around the world. Frankly it'd be impossible to hide or pass off a nuclear explosion as a natural EQ given the scope of the worldwide network. The Washington and Colorado EQs were natural, there is no conspiracy (this time) and should seriously call into question how legit Fulford and Wilcock are - we can't waste time listening to cranks in trying to figure what is ACTUALLY going on in the world.

[Calz]

Posted by doodah (here)
I live in Virginia. On August 23rd my whole house swayed gently back and forth like a cake on a plate that was moved side to side.

What's missing from this quake story is the stories of peoples' ANIMALS alerting them to the quake. There aren't any of those stories. There are hair-trigger dogs penned up across the road -- not a peep out of them. This suggests to me that there were no pre-shocks for the animals to pick up, and that the nuke graph is probably true. Also, initial reports stated that the depth of the quake was VERY shallow, less than the 3 miles later reported.

Just sayin'...

Thank you for adding that.

Yes that is good "circumstantial evidence". Perhaps not yet proof ... but "adding another log on the fire".

Animals *always* know.

[Calz]

Posted by stegosaur (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
There is somewhat compelling data to suggest the original Virginia and Colorado earthquakes were actually not quakes.

The graghs showing no buildup, the areas not having faultlines and the distance at which some people felt them.

That is not "proof" ... but certainly merits more investigation.

IMHO

A couple of things and please don't take this personally because it's not. But as a geologist there are some blatantly false statements here that must be corrected.

1) Virginia and Colorado are chock full of fault lines. I think people commonly confuse a lack of activity for a complete lack of faults - just because they ain't movin on human time scales doesn't mean they ain't there.

...

Now, underground nuclear explosions can be differentiated from natural EQs, and this system is setup worldwide - it's complicated and requires the cooperation of seismographs and seismologists from around the world. Frankly it'd be impossible to hide or pass off a nuclear explosion as a natural EQ given the scope of the worldwide network. The Washington and Colorado EQs were natural, there is no conspiracy (this time) and should seriously call into question how legit Fulford and Wilcock are - we can't waste time listening to cranks in trying to figure what is ACTUALLY going on in the world.

Excellent.

Thank you for adding that. Nothing personal taken on my behalf anyway.

Coming from the field I would have to defer to your expertise then.

[Taurean]

Still, If the Dulce massacre was for real, then they managed to keep the lid on that for long enough.

[Calz]

Dutchsinse's suggestion of the two quakes being on a subduction line made sense as well.

[WhiteFeather]

Read this Blog By David Wilcock An interview with Benjamin Fulford, it describes, connects some major dots and ties in alot of resourceful info with respect to the DUMBS. Deep Underground Military Bases. A must read Avie's.
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...dergroundbases

[stegosaur]

Glad to hear - I can talk about rocks until I'm blue in the face :-) And I love to teach people about it - it's just that sometimes I worry my 'tone' might not come off as me trying to teach or spread knowledge. (this is why I've always preferred talking face to face)

[Calz]

Posted by stegosaur (here)
Glad to hear - I can talk about rocks until I'm blue in the face :-) And I love to teach people about it - it's just that sometimes I worry my 'tone' might not come off as me trying to teach or spread knowledge. (this is why I've always preferred talking face to face)

Face to face is good ... eye contact and all.

Your reference to many faultlines I have to *assume* would be small ones rather than *major* faultlines to which most of the rest of us would recognize.

As I mentioned in a one-liner post soon after yours, Dutchsinse suggested both quakes were on a subduction zone and thus, even though rare for those two areas, an explanation for why they occured.

Don't remember which of his vids that was in ... but do you concur???

Thanks again for your input.

Cal

[RMorgan]

Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??

Those guys should be feeling like this right now:

- Hey B, what´s up?
- Dude, someone fuc**ed up our bunkers!
- That´s ok dude, I didn´t like the decoration anyway...
- Yeah, me too. To hell with that!
- Ok. So now I will be forced to go to Rio with family, you know...
- Yeah, good idea! I heard they just opened an amazing golf club there...
- Oh! Great! I´ll kick your ass again!!
- Hahaha! Let´s see...
- Hey! Remember that blond intern I told you about?
- Sure!!!

[Calz]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??

Well ... the theory would go that when/if any global, possibly extinction level event occurs then perhaps air travel would no longer be possible???

For example ... yellowstone (or other supervolcano) blows and not long afterwards the ash cloud will surround the globe.

Taking away the long planned safe havens from any potential earth change events of that magnitude would (again in theory) put the elite on the same playing field as the rest of us.

That would complicate the alleged motives to kill off 90+% of the population.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??

Well ... the theory would go that when/if any global, possibly extinction level event occurs then perhaps air travel would no longer be possible???

For example ... yellowstone (or other supervolcano) blows and not long afterwards the ash cloud will surround the globe.

Taking away the long planned safe havens from any potential earth change events of that magnitude would (again in theory) put the elite on the same playing field as the rest of us.

That would complicate the alleged motives to kill off 90+% of the population.

Well, but if a global cataclysmic event is planned by the PTB, they could make their move safely, before it happens. I´m sure they have safe places to hide all over the world.

[Calz]

PTB/W can do a great deal of mischief and yes they do, in fact, have the technology to destroy Gaia (provided "divine" or "watchers" intervention did not stop it).

Sometimes we give the PTB/W too much credit on their power or abilities.

I expect there are events well beyond their control or else they would not be so manic about building who knows how many bunkers???

If it was a controlled event (by them) that wouldn't be necessary ... as logic would follow.

My own opinion (worth as much as their paper money I suppose) is that the PTB/W have more to fear than the rest of us ...

[Maia Gabrial]

If they need any help digging them out, give me a call

I have a spoon for you, billyji. Good luck!

[Pete]

I think all the horror stories are going to turn out to be just that. I think that by sealing the bolt holes the rats are too scared to face whatever plan they may have been planning and now the only recourse for them is to create financial Armageddon.

[nearing]

TPTW are good as creating crisis, yes. But they are also adept at making the most of a natural catastrophe. It's the later scenario that I think they built their bunkers for and I'd those were blown up, they are sh****ng bricks right about now.

I believe they know something is coming and they built those in prep for it and now they are without a place to hide their hides.

[Calz]

Posted by nearing (here)
TPTW are good as creating crisis, yes. But they are also adept at making the most of a natural catastrophe. It's the later scenario that I think they built their bunkers for and I'd those were blown up, they are sh****ng bricks right about now.

I believe they know something is coming and they built those in prep for it and now they are without a place to hide their hides.

Regardless of whether or not any of the bunkers have been blown (by whatever means) I think you are correct in that "they" are in a lot of fear.

They feel they have much to lose ... whereas those who understand the spiritual ballpark know the score ... and have nothing to fear.

"They" are coming to deal with "situations" ***well*** beyond their control and have ***no*** idea how to handle that since they have never had to in the (recent) past.

IMHO

[stegosaur]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??

Well ... the theory would go that when/if any global, possibly extinction level event occurs then perhaps air travel would no longer be possible???

For example ... yellowstone (or other supervolcano) blows and not long afterwards the ash cloud will surround the globe.

Taking away the long planned safe havens from any potential earth change events of that magnitude would (again in theory) put the elite on the same playing field as the rest of us.

That would complicate the alleged motives to kill off 90+% of the population.

Howdy, Just wanted to let you know I'll answer your question soon but I've been on a 20 hour work bender. Need to go nap, and take a run. Once I do that, I'll be happy to look at the videos and address the fault question.

Take care.