Barack Obama 2010

[Elandiel BernElve]

Posted by Paradox (here)
The Obama cloning topic is extremely interesting as not quite as mad as it first seems. You have to take a look at the larger picture and take into account such things as what Obama's name means 'lightning from heaven', the fact that there is no record of his birth, social security numbers that don't add up and not only the likeness of Obama to Akhenaten but the who family has a obvious resemblance to the Akhenaten family too! What are the odds of that?

Also note of the code names given to the Obama family by the secret service and you begin to see that there is something very strange and coincidental going on. I personally think there's a lot more to this seemingly outlandish story than first meets the eye.

Go check it out for yourself!

Could you give us a lead to where we could check it out? Thanks

[Elandiel BernElve]

Whether you like Greer or not. He has been a pioneer in the whole disclosure community and he has brought the subject of exopolitics to a lot of people.
People may think that he is a mis-info agent, yet all this (mis-?)info drew a lot of attention to the subject. A subject in great need of attention.

So either way he did help bringing the subject of exopolitics and free energy to light.

Personnaly I think he's just over fanatic, he wants to do the right thing so badly he got blinded from reality.
The man should tone down a little, say less things that are more useful instead of talking and yelling emptiness for hours .
He's like an innocent child, but he'll get there

give him a chance

[Etherios]

What are you guys talk about? He hasnt updated his site for almost 2 months now. The radio shows he does just say the same stuff over and over. Free Energy didnt make 1 step forward since he started. NOTHING HAPPENED.

There are ppl that are trying to make their techs public and DR. Greers groups just dont give a damn about them. His aproach is too legal, too accordings to the TPTB rules that nothing happens. With the news power he has he could had made HUGE tech announcements. The free energy plans are out there.. the youtube videos are out there.... the lectures are out there but no he wants something made from the start o.O.

He just have to show the public that free energy is possible and not outside the science we have simple as that. Make this public in a press conference... show one prototype like there are a ton in the youtube and start this. Once he destroys the current science laws that stop ppl from going further then its over for TPTB. Just too many ppl with try it and they wont be able to contain it.

Then again we all have to believe he goes against these ppl and they just let him do as he pleases right? Too many words and no result ... nothing. Really tell me 1 result since the start of this exopolitics.

[Operator]

Posted by Etherios (here)
Then again we all have to believe he goes against these ppl and they just let him do as he pleases right? Too many words and no result ... nothing. Really tell me 1 result since the start of this exopolitics.

Sometimes it makes you wonder ... do they create 'front men' or fake/false leaders so people are watching/waiting for the leader and stop taking action themselves ?
The 'front men' even may not be aware of it themselves. There organizations will just be infiltrated and hijacked to serve this purpose ... A good reason why 'they' don't seem to interfere.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Operator (here)
Sometimes it makes you wonder ... do they create 'front men' or fake/false leaders so people are watching/waiting for the leader and stop taking action themselves ?
The 'front men' even may not be aware of it themselves. There organizations will just be infiltrated and hijacked to serve this purpose ... A good reason why 'they' don't seem to interfere.

I think this may be a good summary... in some cases.

Not all alternative leaders are taken over - but some undoubtedly are: and some without even realizing it.

To be taken over doesn't necessarily mean that there's a reptilian walk-in: sometimes it just means that an organization has a trusted source that is bogus - and again, maybe that source doesn't even realize it. But the whole thing is (certainly in some cases) controlled like a puppet theater.

You don't need to control the people if you control the information. In the last 3-4 years I feel I've come to understand this better and better. At the moment, I really do think there's such a lot of nonsense - relayed by GOOD PEOPLE - about the Gulf situation, that at least some of the real problems are being obscured.

A minor problem (maybe a major one!) I've been looking at this morning is the Jeff Rense inteview with Lindsey Williams on 1 July.

In that interview. Lindsey, who is unquestionably a dear sincere man, reports that a new senior source - who came to him (do note) - told him that there were cracks in the granite which is under the sand and which encases the reservoir.

This is simply not true. There is no granite there: oil does not form in granite (whether biotic or abiotic). Transocean did not 'drill through granite' to get to the reservoir. I've seen the geological surveys.

This may not matter much, but it's an interesting little case study. And member and visitors reading this will know full-well the amount of nonsense that pervades the UFO community - masking and obfuscating a serious and real subject.

The same with many spiritual issues. The alternative community is awash with well-meaning people relaying inaccurate information... and (to go full-circle here) a good reason why 'they' don't seem to interfere, exactly as pointed out by Operator.

[Etherios]

Bill do you watch The Visitors lately? The ETs tactics are excatly as you said... they dont ever play head on always twist our good will and take advantage of us .... makes you wonder what they want to pass to the ppl with this new V series... for example i have seen 3-4 weird hand "greetings" and not to say the Dawn of a new day announcements everywhere. It really makes me wonder ...

[Elandiel BernElve]

Posted by Etherios (here)
Bill do you watch The Visitors lately? The ETs tactics are excatly as you said... they dont ever play head on always twist our good will and take advantage of us .... makes you wonder what they want to pass to the ppl with this new V series... for example i have seen 3-4 weird hand "greetings" and not to say the Dawn of a new day announcements everywhere. It really makes me wonder ...

Spot on, I´ve been watching the new series since the beginning. Somehow the subject, the timing of the show, and even the methods of the V´s rise a lot of questions.
Is it a coincidence or does someone somewhere at the producing backoffice wants us say something with this new V series at this particular moment in time.

Once again the V series can be interpreted in two ways, as a tool of awakening people(we are being manipulated so wake up!), or as an instrument of fear (aliens will always be malevolent)

which one is it.. ?

[777]

If this guy wants to disclose ET life through the likes of Obama (or most the western governments for that matter) I would seriously question his motives, the legitimacy of the information given to him and the source/benevolence of said ET source.

I don't like the way "another G8 country" MIGHT be involved. No thanks. That's turn off number two. For me that further invalidates all the above even further. This guy says this as though it gives credence to his form of disclosure because a powerfull capitalist nation might be interested. Doesn't that smell a little of ego-talk?

That said I'm fascinated by what tone3 has to say (again lol!). There's probably a lot of usefull practical information and techniques lost here in a myriad of confusion and dithering.

[Etherios]

Well it will show in the near future... how will the show evolve.... i would really worry if ETs capture Earth and then we try to take it back...

Btw dont you find it funny that the human armies never get a position in this series... its like they are not there. There is nothing, no response no action what so ever. We only see police!!! FBI!!! and newly made agencies to HELP the ETs... where is everyone else??

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I used to have the utmost respect for Steven Greer but after the initial Disclosure Project what happened? Ill tell you what happened ...NOTHING.
The change in Mr Greer cannot be denied by anyone.I wonder why?

[Helvetic]

If I may add my 2 cents here. First, don't expect disclosure from a western government. This will not happen.

You realy don't need laserpointers or other measuring instruments. The most important tool is your mind. I would like to share my personal contact protocol here.

meditation, selfhypnosis -> focusing consciousness to receiver, ask questions, have no fear -> practice on a regular basis.

"Thought is energy. It can be received on other worlds. There is no galactic barrier."

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Rightly or wrongly as a disclosure project witness I will continue to support Dr Greer, remaining loyal to the team of people he gathered together globally. We as witnesses wait it out, its just as frustrating for us as we seem to have been put on the back burner for 10 years. Yes he is a showman, has to be in order to get this across to people. He can name drop, if someone mixes with certain names whats wrong with saying so. I admit I am concerned over some of his comments re negative alien forms and that only the military perform abductions. But there is method in that madness. The MILAB topic has taken centre stage because more n more individuals are coming forward with testimony linked to these abductions and the staging technology behind it, man made craft and created beings, PLFs. You have to give the guy a chance.

[Celine]

hmm define... Chance, please...This is...monumental, don't you think? feel it?

Being Witness to disclosure is a demanding position but many of us are.

And...Living up to it, is not for everyone.

Some do it better then others.

Disclosure, is almost a thing of the past.

Sad melancholy, in a sense yet invigorating in another.

Much work still to be done, before rest comes.

Be well barry,
love,
celine

[steve_a]

Hi Everyone,

I think we need to listen very carefully to what Steven Greer said about what the document said given to him by some G8 government, "We wish to go on a long term journey together, make contact with these extra terestrial civilizations. Will you work with us?"

What does this tell us? If Greer claims to be already entering in contact with ET on his ranch, why is there a need to go on a long journey? If Greer gave Clinton 6 years from when he was in power, why hasn't he spilled the beans yet? Why was there a need to advertise the fact that he gave Obama one year? One year to do what? It isn't clear. Whatever it was, why not just wait until the one year is up and declare which government is willing to cooperate? Why is there a need for secrecy at the moment to divulge the "long journey". It's all too ambiguous for me. Get to the point Greer.

Once again there is this horrible deadline needing to be waited for. I really won't be holding my breath for the next six months to see what happens, as it appears that Greer is using other words to say nothing.

Best regards,

Steve

[Operator]

Posted by steve_a (here)
Why was there a need to advertise the fact that he gave Obama one year? One year to do what? It isn't clear.

Just buying some more extra time ... they can't get "their act" together in time ...

[kcbc2010]

My question is how is Obama going to disclose this in a manner which will make the people in the US/elsewhere believe him? A lot of people in the States don't believe anything that comes out of the guy's mouth. I mean, I turn off the television when the guy speaks because he's just full of empty words and promises - and a lot of his supporters feel the same way nowadays.

Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way; however, it seems to me that information like this should come from someone a bit more trustworthy and credible. I would want someone who would leave no doubt in my mind that ET's exist - especially the unbelievers. We all know the President can put on a good show and give a good speech, but he has no credibility w/a lot of people. That isn't a good place to start a "heart-to-heart" conversation about ETs. Granted, there probably isn't a good place to start the conversation, but is he the right person to tell the message to all of us?

[Goldenserenity]

Not to be or sound negative about this, but I don't believe he will ever disclose this kind of information. I think the subject of ET's coming from any government official is not likely to happen. I guess in time I will find out.

[Peace of Mind]

I’m just wondering if people really are ready for it. What do they really expect?
For instance, if Obama came out and said “Water bugs were running this galaxy” half of the populace will probably faint. They arguably have been around longer than any other species on this planet and can become immune and adapt to anything you throw at them…at times, even your shoe.

My point is, are we really ready to accept the unknown…even if it’s (what you were trained to believe) the most vile nastiest things?
A look into this answer is very telling…

Peace

[Goldenserenity]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
I’m just wondering if people really are ready for it. What do they really expect?

Very true what you are saying Peace of Mind...it could throw some people into a hysteria and/or paranoid state. I think that is avoided at all costs by the government.

[Etherios]

Posted by Goldenserenity (here)
Very true what you are saying Peace of Mind...it could throw some people into a hysteria and/or paranoid state. I think that is avoided at all costs by the government.

we will never be at a state where we have no hysteria and paranoia... the goverments are making dummer and dummer ppl. we are more and more stuck in religion and dogmas that we will never break free.

The grip of these things on human society can only be crushed with a huge shock ... nomatter how long we wait we will never be rdy cause they dont want us to get rdy, simple as that.