What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

[Ernie Nemeth]

In an abundance based society thinking itself will become mostly defunct. We value our ability to "rationalize" but in fact we are only regurgitating another's viewpoint, rarely bothering to develop our own. Heart centered action will replace thinking because it is far more reliable, fluid and creative.
You think you think therefore you are. Really you feel, therefore you are. You connect, therefore you are.
You just are.
Thinking freezes reality and forces it to fit a mold - a model.
But the most fundamental aspect of reality is change - a system. You can model a system. You cannot system a model.
Reality abhors a vacuum.

[Ernie Nemeth]

And let me tell you what will change.
We will not be dragged down to the least common denominator to appease those lacking the ability to create outside the box.
We will be free to explore the impossible.
We will not be held back. We will not be held down. We will not accept falsehood, lies, deception and small mindedness.
There will be no concepts , only the one true context. And in that context we will flourish like we cannot imagine today.
And our dreams? They will be the precursor to the reality of the future. In our dreams we will travel the landscapes of uncharted realms, map them meet the inhabitants and exchange/uphold realities.
All this and more await when the paradigm of scarcity is replaced with our true nature of abundance. There are no limits but what you place before yourself.
This is the true nature of the universe.

[araucaria]

Thanks Wade, actually I agree with your post more than with my own!

I started to 'wade' through your great material a while back, but pressure of work has kept me off it - I'll be back

Ernie - Yes! creativity as free energy, go for it!

[Wade Frazier]

Aye, Ernie:

Amen to those abundance posts. Another way of saying it, I think ( ), is that thinking will be a whole-brain exercise, with left and right united, and led by the heart.

Hi araucaria:

Happy reading,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
So, does anybody want to start a positive visions thread, or shall I?

If any one will start a positive visions thread, or positive effects and side effects of Free Energy, please post a link here.

I still want to continue for a while longer to try and bring some light into some dark corners were scarcity may hide. I feel there is still more cleaning up to do before going "positive only"

[Ernie Nemeth]

Finally understood loud and clear.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Two days later:

I still cannot believe what I have just discovered. How can this be? This little piece of technology that I was going to use as a sort of ice breaker at parties is now revising everything I understand about reality.

It has been quite a ride from that faithful day when I first went and picked up my Free Energy box, the zero-point field generator. There was no way to know then that it would lead to this place, this knowing. Yet I must marvel at what it did accomplish in a mere two decades. First it freed me from my drudgery of dragging my tools on my back to earn a few measly dollars only to pay the bills and allow my body to survive another month. With that box and a bit of ingenuity and I was free to live as I choose. Some scraps from the junkyard, a few discarded motors, a couple of sheets of steel, some old plastic tubing, some seeds, some dirt and I was mobile and self-sufficient like never before!

And with the release of the anti-grav unit three years later I became free to go anywhere on the face of the earth that I pleased. Sure, there were setbacks and obstacles to overcome because of the old system still trying to intimidate and hold us enslaved to their crumbling authority but they were, for the most part, easily circumvented. It was just a matter of knowing how to claim our sovereignty; a few letters, a few days in jail, and a couple of home-made licenses solved most of those problems. I took a few beatings in stride and leveled my own threats against more concerted efforts - ZPF technology is easily converted to massively damaging energy weapons with very little effort. And that was that, I and most of humanity were left to our own devices.

And once the connection was made between the ZPF and consciousness, well, that turned everything on its ear. Soon the most intrepid amongst us were bilocating, flying, and manifesting as easily as passing gas! Most of us learned at least one of these advanced skills. Some were better at it than others. Some turned it to new directions like lucid dream construction, body alteration, mind enhancement, mental space exploration and astral travel. These were still areas of great interest to most.

But this revelation changed everthing. I still could not understand it completely - but there it was. After Ariel and I emerged from the anti-grav affection enhancer last night she had an idea. So she took my little device and turned it on. She concentrated and, while allowing me to follow her thoughts, she transformed her being and disappeared. She asked me to do likewise but I was hesitant. I asked her to come back but she was reluctant. We said our goodbyes then, she promised to keep in touch and I promised to find her when I was ready.

I looked up at my display screen but I did not have to. I could feel the thoughts of my people. They were already congregating at the designated spot. The display showed the alien craft entering the atmosphere. I tidied up a bit, put things in order and strolled out of my pretty blue saphire domicile. I already knew I would not be coming back. All I carried with me was this new invention of mine. And I knew that it would be the last piece of technology I would ever use.

There was a bit of a line up at the transporter; everyone wanted to be present for what was to unfold this day. Soon it was my turn and I willed myself to my location: Egypt.

Since billions of us were travelling to the same spot I decided to avoid the crush of the main crowd and appeared some fifty miles out in the desert. Clutching my device I flew into the air. I flew up to a few hundred feet and hovored there, leisurely waiting while floating on my back. I did not have long to wait...

There were hundreds of us even here, seems like I was not the only one who wanted to avoid the crowds. And even from this distance it was not hard to make out the craft as it slowly descended from the heavens. Although the aliens inside the craft were obviously benevolent their thought patterns were odd and a bit disconcerting nonetheless. They were sending out a repeating message telepathically; prepare ye people of earth, you're time of ascension is at hand. To me, their message was not what it seemed. I already knew where I was going. And it wasn't where they intended, that was for sure. But I knew most were not of the same opinion. We had been over this thoroughly in the past forty-eight hours.

And now I understood why I was a straggler here with these few hundred around me - they had chosen similarly. We would go our own way together. I sent out a feeling of gratitude, which was received by all around me and reciprocated. We sent each other well wishes and fortitude and strength - it would not be easy to leave so many of our race. Especially as we were going to an unknown destination where no exprience any of us had yet garnered would help us. It would be fully, completely, utterly, a new world. But our guides, at least the highest of them, were from that realm and they assured us that it would be glorious beyond description. That was enough.

Meanwhile, the craft descended over the Giza plateau and came to a stop above the Great Pyramid. There it hovered. We could not see with our human eyes ourselves but those closest to the site were transmitting what they saw via the third eye, the inward eye. And it was as had been prophesized millenia ago. The craft was not large by alien standards, in fact it had the same circumference as the length of the base of the Great Pyramid itself, not at all a coincidence, as we all knew. Many were now preparing for the coming event, we could feel them doing so.

I held my device out in front of me and turned it on. Since I did not have the talent that Ariel possessed I would have to rely on focussing the energies that were about to be relayed from the merging of the alien craft and the pyramid. I felt those around me turning their undivided attention onto my device with me and we became as one in our efforts. The device started to glow. It pulsed with power and ascended the spectrum of light while it grew in power. First red, the tribal power, then orange, the power of emotion, to yellow, the power of self. Then green, the vibration of love.

The craft descended as we watched in our mind's eye. The device kept cycling higher to blue, the power of symbols, then purple, the power of thought. The craft landed on top of the pyramid. The Great Pyramid immediately rumbled to life and a beam of light shot out with a tremendous burst of coruscating fire. The bean travelled around the planet, activating each of the ancient sites on the main ley lines of the planet.

Gaia Herself shook noticably and some of our number gave over to fear. Most calmed as we sent thoughts of reassurance. Some changed their minds and left to join the main group. We sent our blessings.

By now the device in my hand was pulsing with a pink/indigo light so bright that our eyes were burned beyond repair. But where we were going such things were of no consequence. And as the device cycled to full power a brilliant white light exploded from it, the very power of the Divine within each of us.

The Great Pyramid and the craft began flashing, shimmering before becoming virtually opulescent. And our people, the many that were aligning themselves with this power began to transform. They grew and became crystalline in nature before they too began to shimmer. Soon they began to fade from view, but not from our awareness.

We said our goodbyes then, and wished them well. And then they were gone.

I told my fellow travellers to get ready and willed the process to commence. Before the scene in our minds could no longer report of the happenings in the 3D world I saw a criss-crossing pattern of golden light overhead. And as the scene changed I saw where the rest of our race were arriving in the 4th, then fifth dimensions. I saw there were indeed ancient structures here as well and that they were also activated and pulsing with light. We were glad for our race, they would happily explore this realm with bodies far more advanced and far less corruptible. We felt their excitement at the avenues of possiblities opening before them and their optimism rising in a crescendo of accomplishment.

But us few continued, higher and higher and higher until there were no words, no thoughts, no concepts, just pure unadulterated experience of being.

We were home at last.


Peace everybody! Let hope flow eternal and may all suffering finally come to an end for all time! This I pray for all of our race and all the races of the cosmos!
Bless each and every one with the light of The Most High God.
Love,
Ernie

P.S. I will peep in from time to time but I will for the most part stay in the shadows.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

This is definitely not an either/or exercise. The “what will become obsolete” thread can very happily co-exist with the “positive visions” thread with the “FE physics” thread, with my thread, which spawned all of them. My work contains all of those themes, and one of the primary themes of my work is “We call the darkness the light.” There is room for that, and much more. They will complement each other, and bring a little organization to the exercise. My work is multi-disciplinary, and there should be, IMO, threads on positive visions, on what will become obsolete, on FE physics, on love, on what is the light, and so on. I have some pretty big plans for this stuff, plans that others may well carry to completion. I have not really even begun the conversation that I want to have yet. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I want to read more of Ernie’s visions. We have put enough positive visions in Avalon to make a pretty good beginning of inspiring visions. But this thread is also extremely vital, for reasons that I have already discussed. The things that will go away that are accepted as “normal” today, and even a part of “human nature,” need to be pointed out, so more people can see the assumptions that a scarcity-based civilization makes invisible. This thread is partly intended to make them visible.

This is a vitally important thread, and so will be the visions thread. Ernie, I will expect a little Christmas gift from you to that visions thread.

Love and peace,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

I got some more concepts that will become obsolete:

Weekends and vacations! Now don't give up on free energy just yet!

The reason we have weekends and vacations is to "replenish our batteries" right? to get a break from all of the hard work. To give away that paper we work for. To have a motivation to work harder so we get to have a more luxuriant vacation next year. Weekends and vacations are scarcity based concepts. We don't need them in an abundant society. What would be the meaning of a weekend or a vacation when you love every minute of your life and you are not forced to do something that you don't want to do.

Another concept that I imagine will go away are "secrets". Secrets eat away the trust between people and usually bring out the worst. In a Free Energy society, those that hold secret knowledge, or secret tech, will soon realize that they are wasting their time protecting that, because no one will be interested in them. And most likely public knowledge and technology will soon dwarf their precious secrets

I also think that privacy will disappear. Or to be more precise the need for privacy will be gone. It will be replaced with a deep respect for one self and the other beings.

[Wade Frazier]

Well, here is a risky subject. With FE, human sexual relations will change dramatically, with many aspects of them becoming obsolete, while others will flourish as never before. I have seen it dramatically change in my lifetime. My father’s parents grew up on homesteads in Kansas. Marriage back then was largely about breeding farmhands, and the family was an economic unit. Sex before marriage was scandalous back then. It was not really about “morality,” but the taboos were built around economic reality (although rarely admitted as such, as usual). My wife was originally my landlord, and how we met was larger than life, once again. We lived together for two years before getting married (and I am the one who insisted on it, not my wife), and my grandparents would not acknowledge her existence until we were married. They could never shake their agrarian economy conditioning. Having big nuclear families to work the land is not “human nature,” but “the peasant’s road to wealth.”

There are selfish gene theories and other attempts to explain human sexuality, and there are surely biological aspects of it, but, economic scarcity has dominated human relations, and in the area of sex and families in particular.

There is a great deal of mystical material on the issue, and channelings allegedly from other galactic civilizations (Lyssa Royal’s Future Sex, for instance). In some other humanoid civilizations, they have conscious control over conception. Human behaviors such as voyeurism, sexual jealousy, rape and nuclear families can be difficult to even conceptualize in other civilizations.

Seth once said that the so-called “sexual liberation” of the 1960s and 1970s, while on its surface, seemed to be a lesson in freedom, it really was not. All human expression got shoehorned into sexuality, and became more inhibited, not freer. Seth said that children would not feel pressure to have sex at such early ages if humanity’s collective neurosis did not over-emphasize it like it has. If we turn the corner and make it into an FE civilization, human sexuality will likely change dramatically. It will become freer, less baggage and expectation will attend it, we may see biologically androgynous humans, and other aspects that are difficult to imagine today.

Plenty of mystical material says that human sexuality is a great karmic vehicle. Maybe so, but a world based on FE will be far less divisive, without huge karmic debts being incurred. So, sexuality will not be as “needed” as it has been, for creating huge karmic burdens.

As I have stated before, humanity’s social relations will change in an FE-based civilization, maybe more dramatically than any other area, at least for humans. Sexuality and the social issues around it will be one of those areas, perhaps more than any other.

This is a difficult issue to approach, but it is where a great deal of the change will happen, and in ways that we can probably barely imagine.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Hm... thinking a bit about Wade's previous post I came to realize that with Free Energy the survival of the species will not longer be an issue. We will become immortals (as a species). This will obviously impact our reproductive behavior. I expect that bringing a child into the world, will be a very conscious decision, and one not be taken lightly for the wrong reasons. This is not to say that you will be sad about it, your you're not allowed to laugh about it. You will no longer need the infant to create work units, or to get the stimulus package from the government, or to make sure someone will look after you at old age or will "carry on your name or your death wishes" or because "everybody does it" and is "human nature". Even though, very few parents will admit, I believe that their decision to have a child was based on scarcity or peer pressure (or it was an accident). The big love of the child comes later (if it comes).

So in a free energy society we will have none of that! All those reasons will become obsolete. You would only choose to have a child if you truly feel this will bring you joy and fulfillment in your life.

With regards to how sexuality will "evolve" in an abundant society, we can safely say that sex will no longer be a job, a way to blackmail somebody, or a way to hurt someone, or a way to manipulate another or to punish someone by denying the experience of it. And the flourishing creativity, the disappearance of taboos, the high respect we will have for our self and the other, and the personal freedom (of mind and body) that we will enjoy, will definitely transform the sexual experience.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Making of clothes, washing and hunging of laundry will become obsolete

Imagine we could use personal free energy device to create some kind of force field and a hologram to cover and protect our naked bodies.

Or we could cooperate with plants and animals and enter special kind of symbiosis where our bodies would be covered with flower petals like substance. It would be living self repairing and self cleaning garment. We could go a step further and make it suplying our bodies with food. Tailored to wearers DNA. It could also keep our skin clean and moisture.

[Ilie Pandia]

While reading the forum, it hit me that another big concept will be rendered obsolete in a Free Energy world. And this is a big one:

Support groups, Charity, Environmentalism and the "Anti-something" organizations.

This will most likely be tough to hear, but I believe that the vast majority of these groups actually help perpetuate the problem rather than solve it. Their own survival and mission is dependent on the continual presence of the problem they try to eradicate! Who would join a Charity if they knew that poverty would end tomorrow? What use would that have?! All these organizations are betting that the problem is a big problem, and one that it will not be solved any time soon! Just like finding the cancer cure, the huge amount of funding is dependent on not finding it.

I know this will sound a bit "new agey", but in an abundant society groups will be formed in support of something: Prosperity groups, Consciousness elevation groups, Comprehensive education groups, Space travel groups, Health promotion and so on. In all these cases, the survival and mission of the group is in alignment with the perpetual existence of the "issue" the group was created for

[Wade Frazier]

Very perceptive, Ilie. Yes, charities are largely rackets of a different kind. Idealistic organizations are co-opted and corrupted all the time. The Catholic Church used priestly zeal for its own ends many times, such as in French colonial Canada.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#french

The Peace Corps is really a tool of Empire:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#peace

and organizations like Mother Teresa’s order are arguably cults:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/racket.htm#teresa

In a world of scarcity, all good intentions are subject to being corrupted, and those efforts end up being part of the problem, not the solution. It is also part of the “hacking at braches while ignoring the root” problem. Yes, “do-gooder” organizations become obsolete in a world based on FE.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

Along the lines of your previous post; another thing that will become obsolete is giving gifts, especially the material kind. Living around the ultra-wealthy as I do, especially in high-tech, where people like Bill Gates dress like I do, or Steve Jobs seemed to wear the same pair of jeans for years, material things begin to just be seen as stuff that can be a burden to have. Gift giving is a scarcity-based concept. Pretty much whatever I want, materially (except my own FE machine ) I have, and I have let it be known for many years that I do not want “gifts.” It is a burden to get “stuff” given to me.

In a world of FE and related technologies, gifts of “stuff” will become obsolete. Whatever somebody needs, they will have, as a matter of course.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

This will be a slightly off-topic post.

Thinking about Free Energy, and taking into consideration some of the mystic writings, it seems to me that we need a consciousness shift (as a race) before we get to have Free Energy. In fact, with such a shift, the road to Free Energy devices is quite straight forward and before this shift, misuse of Free Energy could be "disastrous".

The shift that I am thinking about, must be from: "I care only about myself and the loved ones close to me" to "I care about every human being and our advancement as a race". I know that, intellectually, almost everybody here "cares about every human and our advancement as a race", but how many of us are really aware of the starving children or the undignified lives of the humans living below the poverty line? When we fill our gas tank how many of us feel responsible for the cheap oil that is a major cause for war? How often do we remember that civilization is how we cater for the most "unlucky" of us? How often do we realize that much of our comfort is sometimes gain and the expense of others? Looking at the world, it seems not often enough... looking at myself, it seems that not often enough...

I understand that Free Energy would make "how to split this small pie?" question obsolete, but here is the thing... it seems that before we get to Free Energy, we need to raise our awareness to split that pie (as small as it seems now) with everybody on the planet. How can some of the restaurants for example, throw away food (because we've ordered so much, we can't eat it), and children still die of starvation in this world? Can we really say that we can handle the infinite pie of FE while this is happening??

So here's the paradox for you: can we have the infinite pie before raising our consciousness and awareness high enough, to at least be willing to split or give away our share of the small pie?

[Wade Frazier]

Ah Ilie:

Yes, you are zeroing in on the crux of the conundrum. Which I have written about plainly:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question

Here is the conundrum, plainly for you. As Roads said in that interview on this thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post309392

Only 3-5% of humanity is even trying to raise their awareness at this time. I’ll buy that. Of those who are even trying, the vast majority can’t shake their indoctrination, as they are trapped in scarcity-based ideologies:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

Those ideologies are also egocentric, and yes, they encourage people to either ignore the starving children, or in my great nation, we celebrate genocidists:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bitter

The level of awareness that you think we need before we have FE is simply not there. Not only is it not there, when people like me begin pointing out the blood on my nation’s hands, and so on, the attacks that I receive are truly crazy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll

When people like Dennis try to do something about it, they are figuratively burned at the stake (it used to be literally).

This is the great conundrum. Darkness rules the planet right now, and most of humanity is its eager accomplice and victim. The only way out is love. When hearts awaken, the heads will follow. But unless the Ascended Masters show up or the ETs land on the White House lawn, it ain’t gonna happen, not now. The reason that we have the situation that we do is that not enough people care enough. It is that simple:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

I have watched saints sacrifice their lives on this one. It took me a long time, after I got my own clock cleaned, and searching for groups that I thought might be receptive to the FE and abundance message, before I found out that there is nobody home, anywhere on the planet. There is no group on Earth that “gets it” today. If some began forming, the forces of darkness took care of them. That is just the reality of living on Earth today.

Sheldrake’s Causative Formation and the Hundredth Monkey theories have been discussed plenty at Avalon. When somebody posted that Gregg Braden said that only 8,000 people would be needed to change human consciousness and raise it to where stuff like FE can happen, I said “Amen, Gregg.” I have been envisioning about the same number for many years. And I did not just dream it up; I came to that number after playing on the High Road to FE, and traveling that terrain:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

I really think that if somewhere between five and ten thousand people can leave behind the scarcity-based baggage for long enough and simply imagine abundance, and eventually begin to sing it, what I call the “harmonic” effect may happen, in Sheldrake fashion. Nobody has ever tried it before.

Also, however, in order to really understand the FE conundrum, people have to first understand how energy runs the world. The vast majority are scientifically illiterate, while the professional scientists are indoctrinated into subtler mind-traps:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#subtle

In order to really understand, in a nuts-and-bolts way, people have to think comprehensively, like Fuller did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

Not many have been able to do that in human history, but my website, and especially my upcoming energy essay, is intended to help people think comprehensively. The stark reality today is that somewhere around one in a thousand people today even want to think comprehensively, unable to think past their ego-traps.

There is no city on Earth full of comprehensive thinkers who have their hearts in charge. Those of us who have played the FE and abundance game know how lonely the path has been:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

But, there is reason for hope! Scott, for instance, is continuing the FE interviews that he began with me earlier in the year (and it was an honor to have Jeane Manning and Brian O on the show after me):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews

Tomorrow, Adam Trombly, fellow FE activist and comprehensivist, is going to be on Scott’s show:

http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/upcoming-shows.html

The movie Thrive is coming out in a month, which will feature Brian O, Adam and Greer, along with people with my respect like Amy Goodman. I am cautiously optimistic.

So, if those potential ten thousand are not in any one spot, but are scattered around the planet, how can they be brought together into that choir? In that regard, I am taking advantage of new technology: the Internet. I hope to begin a conversation (these Avalon conversations are a long way from what I envision) that will be a home where the lone voices in the wilderness can come, where others can warm their hands around the camp fire, and maybe, just maybe, we will begin to hum the abundance tune. I ask nothing from anybody other than their awareness. It took a lifetime to get to where I did and, as you know, the journey was by no means easy, but I have glimpsed where we we may be able to go, if enough of us can just imagine it.

But there are a million rabbit holes to disappear into, and you see it plenty on my threads and elsewhere, with people with inventor-itis, Young Warrior delusions, thinking that the “left” and “protestors” hold some promise, and so on. That choir that I envision will be Level 12s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

and I may have met ten in my lifetime so far. This is not going to be easy work, by any means, but it can usher in the next epoch of the human journey:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

and one that can look a lot like Heaven on Earth. I doubt that I will get to experience that heavenly world that Roads visited in this lifetime:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

but I hope that before I cash in my chips, I see it heading in that direction. Without FE, it probably can’t. So, I will agree that a critical mass of us need to raise our awareness for FE to manifest. They can carry the ball until humanity is ready to. For 99+% of the human population today, they will not get their minds in gear until somebody delivers FE machines to their homes:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

That is just the state of the patient. This thread that you began, Ilie, is part of the class that I envisioned. I will be beginning that thread of positive visions soon, with what Ernie and I have done so far. That is all part of the curriculum, and we will see how it goes.

OK, back on topic! Let’s see, what else will be made obsolete by FE (I am literally making this up as I write this)? Gas stations! OK, too easy. Let’s see…..

Large scale urban infrastructure, such as highways, sewage systems, power plants and electric and gas lines. As I have stated before, urban civilization becomes obsolete with FE and what comes with it, such as advanced transportation (anti-gravity technology also exists today http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground ) and communication technology. Nobody will need to be isolated, in hillbilly style. Everybody will be just as connected to humanity as they want to be, and when people stop playing the Games of Scarcity, we will be more fun to be around.

So, in finishing, I agree that some of us will need to raise our awareness before we have FE, but for the vast majority of humanity, the reality of FE is what is going to catalyze it. The Big Boys know very well what I am writing about. That is why they keep the lid on FE as tightly as they do. It is not about protecting the energy market; it is about protecting their place on the throne, as they play the scarcity game, too. The lambs will teach them differently, I hope.

Best,

Wade

[nomadguy]

This might be a post for the someplace in the beginning of the thread,
anyway, Where to begin?

from my own tests I have found that if you start with
Water. How to use it, and respect it You will find that to do this TRULY may not be not as easy as it sounds.
For example - to make effort to ensure that all water you use from your sink in your kitchen, makes its way back into Earth "thoughtfully" and not automatically.

As to say, that you yourself become part of the water cycle in place of your pipes.
OK, lets say you will begin to take portions (perhaps buckets) of greywater to your orchard or shade trees.
As you begin to do this you will see for yourself first hand the responsibility of the one element ~ Water.

What you will also see is that now you are directly interacting with the cycles of nature and that it responds in kind.
The Trees you are feeding are now going to begin to work for you. You feed them ~ the shade you and provide wood and/or food. A first step is taken.

If we are to create a newer technology to help us evolve in balance,
the technology also needs to be balanced and I think it is also likely the only< way to discover these kind ideas is also from a state of balance.

Good posts yall!
Cheers
C...

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Various forms of escaping from reality will become obsolete. There will be no need for intoxicating our minds with alcohol, drugs or pornography to "free" our minds from and "forget" for a brief moment of this "nightmare".

With FE or rather omnipresent mindset accompaning FE reality will become to much fun to escape from. I imagine every second of that new life as continous and neverending active group meditation. Where everything just flows undisturbed and everybody can consciously choose to "simply" be in "here and now" aware of oneness with every atom and spirit nearby...

Today meditation in isolation and hiding in monasteries is also form of escaping reality... Kind of avoiding to face our problems "heart on"... But i know that drawing any line here is fuzzy... Unles we are sure we have full insight into particullar matter...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi nomadguy:

Yes, your post was off-topic, but not by that far. What you are suggesting is for people to reconnect with nature. That is part of the work that needs to be done. In the watery Northwest, they do not need to play the irrigation game, but in each place on Earth, even on the 25th floor in Manhattan, a person can connect with nature, even if it is a flower pot. The work that I am doing, especially in my upcoming essay, is the kind of stuff that asks people to think more deeply, such as where does that water come from that we water our plants with? It was placed there by the hydrological cycle, which is powered by solar energy. FE can make solar-powered resource supplies obsolete (another thing that will become obsolete, folks! ), and can also make the “waste” problem disappear entirely. No lugging around buckets of water as a daily habit, but yes, if it helps a person understand the cycle of life better, then it can be a good thing. You might want to begin a “back-to-nature” thread, if you are so inclined.

Hi Robert:

Yes, nobody would want to “escape” a world like this:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I have been a fantasy fan since my father handed me The Hobbit when I was fourteen. I remember reading a critic long ago say that if he had a chance, he would go live in Middle Earth in an instant. If we have Heaven on Earth, would fantasy literature go away? Ah, that would be one of the downsides for me!

Going to work now.

Best,

Wade